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I’m so tired of every single Marvel character being a cocky, arrogant, overconfident, narcissistic, jokey, quirky, and borderline sociopathic moron that says nothing but quirky quips and one-liners in every situation. I hate it.
Avengers made a lot of money, so now all studio heads think the key to comic book adaptation success is to make every character a knock-off Joss Whedon character. These movies and shows will have to completely flop before they change direction.
That pretty much sums up my view on an awful lot of media over the past couple years. Genuinely interesting ideas, but so thoroughly ruined by putting them in the hands of all the wrong people that no one else will risk touching them for a decade or more.
Me: Wow, that was a pretty savage review from the Drinker, for someone who hasn't seen the first episode yet. *Watches Frist Episode* Also Me: Wow, the Drinker went pretty easy on this garbage.
I was gonna say, He didnt even watch the show He said that Jen wants these powers because *REASON* She got in a car accident in THE FIRST epasode that gave her hulk powers by accident She didnt ask bruce to give them to her
@@RouxTheKitsune yeah, it also shows he doesn't actually give a shit about the comics, because this is a 40 year old character, who ALWAYS got her powers from a blood transfusion from Bruce, it was never voluntary. This video makes it obvious he's never heard of this character before, and thinks Marvel just came up with her because WOKE!!
She-Hulk and Bat Girl aren't bad characters. Modern media just can't adapt them in a way that doesn't seem garbage because they have to stay in line with THE MESSAGE.
Dude, learn to read the room: Blacks can say -igga, Jews can joke about Jews and women can talk about other women. STAY IN YOUR LANE and never mind the insanity.
@@CorePathway If we've learned anything from Ricky Gervais, it's to always tell the hard truth to their faces and politely invite the lane minders to kindly piss off.
Kinda weird how the Hulk actually makes sense anatomically speaking, his limbs are trunks and he’s massive which fits super strengyh She-Hulk however is just… tall green girl
Side Note: In the comics, She-Hulk LOVES her powers and has no interest in being "an anonymous lawyer". In fact, she sees them as a gift because Bruce gave her an emergency blood transfusion which saved her life. Meaning she went from being an aspiring nobody on death's door to a superhuman renowned lawyer (very easy to advertise herself as a "super lawyer" and represent the Avengers). The point is Jennifer's life got way better thanks to the Hulk, but Bruce's turned into a nightmare. This is because the Hulk is a manifestation of one's inner psyche. Bruce is a victim of childhood domestic abuse with repressed rage and fear. And this right here means the Hulk is Bruce Banner's DEFENCE MECHANISM. If Bruce is getting angry or scared, the Hulk assumes Bruce must be in danger and bursts out to destroy everything in sight then run away somewhere isolated and quiet. "Hulk just wants to be left alone!" is one of The Hulk's most iconic lines. This is also why Hulk calls Bruce "puny" - it's self-loathing from Bruce's abuse. Compare this trauma to Jennifer's much healthier pysche with strong aspirations and it's no wonder that their respective 'Hulks' are worlds apart, and Jennifer desperately wants to help her cousin. So, if you change this fundamental part of Jennifer's character, you also change her relationship with Bruce. Yet another example of a female character being someone who girls could look up to in the 90s and 2000s, only to be "modernized" and "fixed" for bitter women. See also: Mulan.
Rebuttal, Gamma Radiation induced powers have always had a psychological bend to them based on the receiver's various issues. Being turned into the Hulk is in no way, shape, or form the norm with that stuff as The Leader can attest to.
Yeah. Captain America totally threw himself on a dummy grenade in training to help himself, and was willing to give up his life at the end of that movie for the good of the world because he'd gain something from it. Totally a narcissist, am I right?
Clearly she has never known any of the Avengers. HELL THE HULK puts his life on the line on many occasions for the greater good even when he thought himself a monster and hated what he is and the people that hunted and feared him. DOUBLE HELL Black Widow sacrificed herself as well to save the lives of millions, Tony, Thor, Spidey, Strange- Every fuckin one of em has made the hard decision. She better have a character arc to be humbled by what it means to take up the mantle of a hero. But in this day and age that is unlikely.
@@reyes8143 Except the way she was portrayed on the Dr Strange movie doesn't really work. She basically killed of dozens of people to get to her make belive children and specifically children who already have a mother instead of you know going to a universe where they are orphans or maybe adopting someone else's or maybe making them? Did they ever address why she can't make her fictional babies in her universe but somehow made them in others? I also saw a video about a number of things she's done in the comics and the long story short she isn't really much of a hero she's more like someone who has superpowers that means well but often ends up making things worse and killing people in the process. Then it feels likes she's a villain but no one will be able to properly control her as a threat.
@@richards1708 yea she kinda wasted as a villain but her development is still great nonetheless. She could be the next biggest threat in the avengers saga since she’s far stronger than thanos. If anyone is wrong, its the MCU. Her character is fine.
@@reyes8143 I wish I had the link to that video with me of that is how she is in the comics she's not fine at all. Maybe in the movie world before multiverse of madness.
I liked She Hulk from the 90s Hulk cartoon She wasn't pushing any agenda or anything Just one, confident, charming character Also having 20 years gap between cousins is not unheard of
I’m a high school student that has a first cousin that already has a husband, one son that is a year older than me, and a daughter. It’s definitely not unheard of.
My understanding is that they changed her origin story from the comic books. I am a long time Marvel comic book reader, I quite way back when they started with all the SJW, Feminism stuff. Yes I hated Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel and continue to hate the character today with her bloviated abilities that make no sense. Anyway, in the comic books Jennifer Walters, the lawyer is shot by a bad guy. Bruce Banner is forced to do an emergency blood transfusion in order to save his cousin's life. His blood then alters her into the She-Hulk. In the movie it appears the Bruce and Jennifer are in a car accident and Jennifer pulls Bruce from the wreckage. Which makes no sense since any thinking human being would have thought Bruce would have changed instantly into the Hulk, just as he did when he tried to kill himself. Anyway, during her "rescuing" of Bruce apparently his blood somehow magically seeps into her body. (another almost completely impossible event). Not only that but enough of his blood gets into her body (not being attacked by her own white blood cells) to change her into the She-Hulk. Even putting aside all the stupidity involved in this new origin story, the big question is WHY? Why was it necessary to change the origin story? What problem did She-Hulks Marvel cannon origin story create that made it necessary to change it? One final comment: I guess Marvel doesn't understand that young boys/men are the ones who primarily read comic books. In my entire life, and I am not a young person, I have found very few women who give a sh*t about ANYTHING related to comic books. Not saying there aren't any but come on, what maybe 10%.?
Female comic book reader here. There’s lots of us! Just wanted to clear up that in the show, Bruce was wearing his ‘inhibitor’ device to keep himself in human form. So that’s why he didn’t change to Hulk, and also why he bled.
"Your transformations are triggered by anger and fear" "Those are like, the baseline of any woman just existing." I'm glad that no man goes through life filled with feelings of fear and anger ... we just play golf, drink beer and point at boobs all day, every day.
One thing I can honestly say. I have no understanding at all where this phase of Marvel is going. I can't claim I have watch any series other than Moon Knight in its entirety but a collection of these new generation of heroes joining together to fight some global menace such as ending the threat of wet paper bags just seems so absurd. First they give us The Eternals and give us a poor explanation on why they weren't in End Game and then they give us Egyptian gods and goddess and their human representatives and they don't even mother asking the question where these gods were during End Game. Hell, it might as well not have even happen at this point. They keep wanting to give us the next " "bestest ever" while bashing white men. As a prime example. They wanted a new Captain America so we get ex-falcon to take his place. You need a new improved falcon, so Moon Knight gives us female Falcon 2.0.
That’s what was great about Wonder Woman - she stood on her own merits in the movie, alongside Steve Trevor, not despite him. He had his own strengths. I feel like there’s a lot that writers could learn about their dynamic.
@@ConorJTobin Alas, feminist writers can not think outside their "men evil and toxic, women stunning and brave" mindset. Sadly, we're likely in this woke era for the long haul.
@@ConorJTobin I'm still surprised the first Wonder Woman movie was free of any of the modern feminist rethoric, especially considering that it came out in 2017, when it was at its peak. And that just makes more infuriating how later female superhero movie turned out. They literally had a perfect template and chose to ignore it.
I honestly thought Disney learned something from the reviews on star wars. Creating a super-powered-woman by gifting her all the skills and immediate abilities where she is without training instantly better than the male counterpart, while also making all the better jokes and having the more interesting life, is not realistic at all.
Apparently in the comics that's how it was and if that the case then fine. My gripe is they contrast it with hulk being a fucking goof. Can't have strong female characters without degrading the male ones
You're wrong on one part. Rey never existed before hand. And never was gonna exist. Shehulk has exist as a comic for a long ass time. So at least shehulk didn't just pop up out of nowhere, as the granddaughter pretty much satan
Fem Hulk: "I'm not a superhero - That is for billionaires and narcissists and Adult Orphans" Iron man: "superheroes? Like wise, intelligent, and capable individuals?" Batman: "I think she meant 'successful human beings' " Superman: "she's referring to 'selfless and kind hearted people' " Deadpool: "uh oh fatherless behaviour" Spiderman: "take it easy man- her cousin's right there" Hulk: "no no- I don't feel angry... just a little disappointed"
“Anger and fear…are just, like, the baseline of any woman existing.” So I’m guessing she’s an attorney without any experience representing men in Family Court.
@@Jummugest because it implies that men don't experience the same thing on a daily basis and perpetuates the victim mentality that feminists weaponise with everything they come into contact with.
In the comics she needed a blood transfusion from Bruce. This gives her the gamma powers of the Hulk but much milder side effects to her psyche. She was timid and meek in her human form but in She-hulk form she was the strong confident person she always wanted to be which is why Jennifer preferred that form.
@@nischay4760 That's probably Bruce training her on how to use/control her transformation. You don't step into a chamber with fucking circular saws in it to gain powers...
Disney has turned the concept of Hulks into a joke. Back in the David Banner/Bill Bixby era, when his eye color changed, you knew the shit was about to hit the fan, watching that as a kid scared the shit out of me, and that was the point, Hulks are supposed to be scary. Then comes along Disney, and first we have Hulk not wanting to come out in Infinity War, then in endgame, they turned hulk into a comic relief with Half Banner/Half Hulk. Now, She Hulk is just an Ally McBeal or Sex and the City sitcom, why not just add a laugh track to the show, too?
This show is actually really funny if you think about like this: it is a social commentary on how modern women see themselves vs the reality. Jen believes that the world is holding her back, while she is the one who is a failure. She thinks men are the problem, while it is clear that women hold her back more then women. 🥳
Now, I’m not a woman, so I asked my wife if she lives in a constant state of anger and fear. She responded by letting out a deep, disgruntled sigh and and asked me “what feminist bull-shit have you been reading now?”
“Is there anything worse than dating in your thirties” has the same feeling as, “you think your life’s tough? Try being a girl wearing size 11 Nikes” so I have absolutely no hope for this mess
When I was a kid and I saw Edward Norton as Incredible Hulk I thought, “oh my god, this is it they’ve found the perfect hulk actor and just like the others he did such a good job they’re gonna keep him!” My heart was broken when I saw Avengers and it was mark ruffalo. I was actually sad. Marvel, you made a 14 yr old cry!!!
“Female characters aren’t the problem. It’s how their depicted” quoted by a video that a saw not to long ago. Some of the female characters like bat girl or bat woman isn’t bad, I actually like a few of their versions but it’s how they are now depicted is the problem.
@@SK008 They turned Kingpin into a joker, and what little we saw of Daredevil in NWH...yeah. Rumour is he will have a cameo in this show, he will basically just show up to get fucked by Jennifer.
@@SK008 Daredevil is easily my favorite show because its gritty, honest and actually builds the characters and leaves the audience to decide whether it's for better or worse. Best part is that its not preachy at all. At first I was excited to see him in Spiderman, but now after seeing these new shows and movies, I'm horrified.
Smart people cancelled their Disney + and use free websites for that rare 1 out of 100 shows that’s half way decent. I wouldn’t pay a dollar a year for Disney + lol
I mean she isn't wrong. She's saying it's for people who feel the need to prove something and want to show off. She's like " I'm 30 and cry into my cereal at midnight because life kinda sucks. That's not me. " Which isn't narcissistic. Her life isn't where she wants it atm. It's not dramatic and she doesn't fit the bill or have the personality type. She's just some lady with powers now and no aspirations that line up with them.
@@iTeacupPanda I get what you're saying, but at the same time, so much of this trailer was her "showing off." And to top it off, she said that line in a super condescending and prideful way. I'm sure there's going to be a moment of humility for her, in realizing her potential and personal responsibility, but based on this trailer alone she was nothing but narcissistic, in my view. So, it just seems ironic that this is a stipulation for her.
For some reason any time a man discusses something passionately or in depth it’s called “mansplaining”, When a woman does it, it’s a Monday. No , it’s anytime they open their mouth.
Maybe its a good thing that Tony, Steve & Nat arent around to see the destruction being done to the universe they worked so hard to build. Makes me miss Iron Man even more lol. Endgame was truly the end.
Not only she-hulk can think and talk normally, but the hulk can as well as he creates the she-hulk. What social justice isn't accomplishing these days. It's a miracle I tell you, A MIRACLE!
All I could remember when watching this trailer was the heartbreaking line Bruce gave when he told the other Avengers he’d attempted suicide because he saw no way out of everything that being the Hulk was. That line punches me in the gut every single time. And now he’s just…putting another human being through that so casually? What the cinnamon toast fuck-
Well he perfected hulkdom and learned to control it, so it's totally different now. I mean look at her, she's completely normal as hulk. To me, that's the dumbest thing about the hulk character now. There were consequences when he was a mindless rage machine. This would have been better had she not been able to control it, having the idea blow up in Bruces face.
@@reignman30 She-Hulk’s always been in control of her stronger form, it’s something that’s separated her from her cousin throughout their histories. It’s essentially her but with all inhibitions shed. She’s strong in her own right, but she’s not nearly as powerful as her cousin.
Gotta love how it took Hulk like a decade to gain control of himself, and she-hulk does it in 20 minutes. Just like how Rey in star wars just immediately becomes a master with zero training.
disney's next phase: 1.kid hulk(gets mad when adults say no more candy) 2.spider kid(doge a neighbour's pitbull with his pre-mature spidy sense) 3.kid thor (well he doesn't have a hammer, not yet) 4.kid loki(of course he/she has similar sibling, also not the favourite one) 5.iron girl/boy(build a card board armor with his/her's 4th grade engeineering skills) 6.kid america( what's he going to do pick up an AR in middle of the class?)
Shows with awesome kick ass women that both men and women can root for: Ghost in the shell Crouching tiger hidden dragon Terminator (1&2) Matrix Red dawn Resident evil There are more but the point is that they are female characters which are powerful, inspiring, educated, intelligent, etc…so this isn’t a “woman hating” thing. The problem with characters like she hulk is their non stop whining coupled with simultaneous unearned bravado and topped off with snooty and holier than thou wokism which makes even the strongest of stomachs churn with illness.
That adult orphans and billionaires line is hilarious, obviously it’s in reference to Tony Stark and Batman, which is funny to me because the main narrative of the McU is Tony stark learning to become a selfless man, great way to discredit him, Batman was never a narcissist, if anything he’s self loathing, to an unhealthy degree. Also which one of the others avengers cast qualifies in those categories? None of them.
If they legitimately make Jennifer's transformation nothing more than "Yeah, let me do this..." then I'm absolutely out. Jenn's origin was that she received an emergency blood transfusion from Bruce after an accident (which I assume is the accident we see in the trailer), and it rendered her green, larger, and still completely within her mental faculties. She saw her powers as a GOOD thing, and she became a metahuman lawyer because the supers really didn't have an advocate. This bastardization of both her and the Hulk is...gross.
Honestly as obvious as that is, and with the flaw of the only person able to give her a transfusion being Banner, I’d still prefer that. At least she has thoughts and good reasons, not some vain bullshit like what you’re going to see here. I’m out on MCU.
And now they’re gonna fuck up Abomination even harder than they already did in Shang-Chi. I bet you they’re gonna make him a complete joke instead of the power-lusting, viscous monster he was in Incredible Hulk. God damn it Disney.
*“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.* *those who know the source of the quote have exceptional geek cred*
I thought it interesting how they changed her origin. In the comics she is injured and needs a blood transfusion and the only person near enough to give it to her is her cousin Bruce Banner ...so she gets her power from him.
I just love how one of the key points they seem to be pushing is just how depressing and difficult dating is for a woman in her thirties right up until she has an elective medical procedure that changes her physical looks and size. I don't know if that's the writer's own personal experience or just their bias, but either way I find it hilarious.
I'm in my 30s, and I've taken good care of myself, so I can easily pass for someone in their 20s. It's sad how some people think that if you haven't dated by a certain point in your life, then you're a pathetic incel who has passed their expiration date.
Maybe she shouldn't have done a ton of cocaine in law school haha. Am in 30s and still pass for 20s. Regardless, been having loads of fun in life taking trips, going out, doing things. Definitely have more money now that I'm in my 30s. Other people I know spent all day crying on their 30th. Ok whatever I took a 3,000 mile road trip for my 30th. You do you I guess 🤷
I found that to be pretty funny too. I'm hoping she wasn't even close to being serious. I think women should be sarcastic and comedic too. It's just difficult to judge based solely on a trailer.
@@dianebrooks1859 seriously! I'm approaching 30 and a phenomenal trip with my bestie sounds amazing. Stealing this idea right now Anyway, it's 2022, we don't even hit our prime until we're 40. Change my mind. Before, it was when you're best to have kids. That doesn't define us anymore. Why are we acting like this is 1560 and I'll die of old age by the time I'm 50?
"I just want to be a normal, anonymous lawyer." Which is why she signed on to take cases involving super heroes which will obviously be highly publicized and involve tons of exposure for her but whatever.
@@SergeyPupkoMusic She-Hulk got her powers from an emergency blood transfusion. The blood needed to come from a blood relative and Bruce Banner was the only relative she had available in the small amount of time she had in which to have the operation.
The problem isn’t the character, but the writers. Back in the 1980s, John Byrne wrote “The Sensational She-Hulk” and it was a funny, well written series that had Jennifer Walters as a funny, likable character. If we didn’t have incompetent, ideological writers writing this show (along with so many others), She-Hulk would be just as good a character as she was back in the 80s.
@@freemasonslayer The purpose of a trailer is to make people want to watch the product. If people don't like the trailer, whose fault is it? And how can you blame people for talking about said trailer?
She-Hulk is present in the original Infinity Gauntlet comics. She speaks very casually, which is a refreshing contrast to the other heroes which speak very formally. I liked her there a lot. She seemed upbeat and well-meaning, concerned for the civilians who were being hurt or killed in the Snap and subsequent natural disasters.
3:00 Age gaps between cousins are nothing out of the ordinary, take me for example: I'm a teenager and one of my first cousins is in his 40's and has a kid that's older than me.
The thing that's truly sad is, this could have been a really good buddy cop-style superhero story with Hulk and She-Hulk. In the comics, Jen got into an accident and needed a blood transfusion. The only person available was Bruce, who hesitantly agreed not knowing what the side effects of his Gamma-infused blood would be. She got a much milder version of his "Hulkness" allowing her to stay in control of herself at all times while transformed, and with enough training, became able to switch back and forth at will. She initially didn't like it, but eventually came to accept and embrace it, and grew into the role of a true hero. This on the other hand... just looks like content.
@@blackmage6842 True, but I'm sick of "Content" I want something good for once. All of these new characters they've ruined right from their introduction could have been great if any of them gave a solitary fuck.
Tbf, thats accurate of the source character. Winters doesn't have to struggle with an alter-ego Hulk. She also breaks the 4th wall in the comics, a lot too. - She hulk, is a lot more "Archie", than say "Avengers", lets put it that way.. The momentary issue I had, was with how she became. - In the comics, one of the perps she put away (a mobster) jumps her and Bruce, and blows Walters away. Bruce saves her with a blood transfusion and the side effect is She Hulk. - Builds her public image as an "it girl" who's all that. Party hardy, pinup chick. Who's more serious side is very much shaped by injustice, which Walter's considers social justice and vigilantism to be part of. - So, it'll be very interesting to see if producers debunk their own agenda by followingbthe source. My guess is not, seeing they already flipped. That said, I enjoyed it otherwise. Todays hip is not very cool, frankly its kinda tragic and very uncool. But whaddaya do. Laying off that rag a lot would probably net a better reception too.
Brilliant work!! The world needs more minds like yours. Thank you. Parents often squander on high school $40K a year and not ONE of the teachers is as intelligent as you are.
@@arisel0v360 You watched it on your TV? And not like your phone or computer or laptop? Edit: Ok I get it, but is the She-Hulk trailer really worth your TVs time, better yet anyone or anything’s time.
MCU Execs: "We need women to like Comic book characters!" Fans: "There are women who do like comic book characters." MCU Execs: "But they're not Feminist enough!"
men and women have their areas of interest. there's probably a lot more men that like comics than women and that's fine. when my aunt was a teenager she read a lot of x men comics. now she mainly reads manga. if women want to read comic books, there's nothing stopping them.
@Robert Monroe if marvel want more female fans, then they should make more original female heroes with complex characters don't have the sole personality trait of smug.
If you ask me, the transformation must be triggered by insecurity and entitlement. Things that are the baseline for "strong empowered women" living with first world problems.
In my humble opinion, it’d be better if she said “Those are like the baseline for ME just existing”. Telling people that they are scared and mad all the time is less effective than seeing a scared/mad person overcome their fear and leverage their anger.
I hope Disney will give up Marvel to an actually studio who stays close to the comic content, no censorship, no fu**king woke sh**, and lastly good story telling.
@@L4nd0C4lr1s14n eh, I'm not as critical as many others, although I understand the anger and distrust of Disney. No Way Home was great (Sony, mostly, I know), and I enjoyed Black Widow, Shang-Chi, WandaVision (until the end), and even Hawkeye. I like Doctor Strange 2, as well, and even made me forgive WandaVision a bit more since Wanda was evil. Loki I heard enough awful things about to not even watch, didn't see Eternals and don't plan to, Moon Knight started off interesting and wound up being a big disappointment, and Falcon and the Winter Solider I hated more than any MCU project before it (including Inhumans). I also won't be watching Love and Thunder. I judge each project individually.
I'm just here to say this: I'm a 47 years old tv writer from italy and every time Marvel or a Major Hollywood Studio drops a trailer I'm really happy, but not for the movie or series itself. It's because I know that The Critical Drinker will make a video about it. Seriously, thank you for what you do. Mannucci
As a fellow screenwriter i often find myself wondering why none of my personal scripts get optioned when garbage like this sells. Only scripts I've ever sold was people hiring me to write their own concepts, no one wants to even read mine. I was once at a really fancy cocktail party and had a chance to chat with a big name producer and he said they were starved for good writers, i told him its super easy to find good writers, i know plenty. He said where are they hiding, i said you know you guys don't even accept unsolicited scripts on your website right? The first step to actually hiring competent writers is probably just not screening them out at the front gate.
The creation of sex-swapped counterparts-- and kid sidekicks, for that matter-- is primarily a legal thing. Comics companies will create different versions of popular characters just to claim the rights to all the name combinations. If they don't, somebody else will snap up the variation and run with it. Case in point: Wonder Man.
“Fear and anxiety” at least sounds somewhat sympathetic. But she said her baseline emotions are “anger and fear” which sounds like someone I would avoid.
No, she choose a job and career and then with 30 she realised that her biological clock is now ticking louder. I know a lot of women in their mid 30s / early 40s what where not sleeping around but worked hard. You all remember the: be a strong, successful independent woman thing? Well, they realised that no-one gives a damn about their big house, fancy car and making + £ 60.000 plus bonus a year. On the contrary, the most men don't care or don't even try to compete with them. I meet recently a woman, she's 40 now. When she found out how much I make, her response was 'only" - and I was thinking - I don't know a lot of people what work in IT & Security making what I make - in what world does she live - turned out she earns 10k less then me. This 'high' expectations, their behaviour pretty much disqualifies them of meeting someone.
@@ldorman Dated 2 girls around their 40's. One was really apathetic towards sex, but craved lots of attention and caring (which drove me away eventually). The other was bipolar. Both didn't have kids. The cougar spirit was trying to break lose on both, but everytime you'd ask them what they're looking for in a relationship, the classic answer would come: "I don't knooooow....."
@@ldorman sheesh is this what i have to look forward to..Yikes i’m exhausted just thinking about it yeah; No thank you..NEXT! i’d much rather just keep on getting 1-nighters till im tired of getting laid an work an travel till i die
The thing is that in the comics, She Hulk has been a really good character, especially when drawn and written by John Byrne: Attractive, smart, and fully aware of the fourth wall. The version from recent comics -- I can't even.
See it’s not impossible. My first reaction to ultimate Spider-Man was oh cool, black Spider-Man. Then Spider-verse made me think differently about him. His story paralleled peters, but it wasn’t a copy, Peter’s was about responsibility while miles’ was about expectations. A character might seem like a trait swap, but that doesn’t mean that they can’t be compelling or interesting. Now when I see miles I don’t think black Spider-Man, I think hell yea it’s miles Morales. I changed my mind on him because I could relate to him on a personal level and I was invested in his story, and shocker, I’m not black. His race was never a driving force in his character in that movie. It was all about his personal struggles, which anyone can relate to regarding of race. That proved to me that he wasn’t just black Spider-Man, he was so much more. But when writers don’t put effort into their characters and have their race/sexuality/gender dictate their character, it’s hard to see them as anything more than those labels. If you make a show about batwoman and the entire time all they talk about is how she is a woman, it’s really hard to not look at her as Batman but a woman. So yea I agree, it’s possible, just so much damn pandering keeps obscure characters who happen to be minorities from shining. Ruins their potential. Worst of all, they’ll never been see as anything more than a black Spider-Man or female Batman
@@boneman9751 Eh, for me Miles was the weakest part of Spider-verse. His story boiled down to the same milquetoast message that they keep giving to the 'minority' characters: "Just believe in yourself more and you can do it!" I liked Miles in Ultimate Spider-Man because he had to deal with feelings of inadequacy and worried he wouldn't measure up, especially after Peter died. But they just keep trying to shove him and Gwen Stacy into everything and it doesn't work 99% of the time.
I got to know She-Hulk a lot more when she was in the Fantastic Four for some time. I liked her. Hot, smart, confident. Both as She-Hulk and as her alter-ego. There was this one story where she was sunbathing in the roof. Topless. Some paparazzi in a helicopter took pics. When the pics got published (even her lawyer self couldn't stop it)... wait for it. They colour corrected. Instead of green skin, it was "corrected". So now no one would believe it was her in the pics.
"THE message" lol This video never gets old, haven't watched or the interest of watching the show, but I'm pretty sure that this video is more interesting and fun to watch lol
Well, that's actually what the character is. Minus the not needing a man part. Shulkie loved men. But you can do that well and in a non-pandering manner. Superhero Sex and the City is exactly what it should be - with a little bit of Gonzo/WTF thrown in for good measure.
I have an old She-Hulk comic from the 80's. She grew into one of my favourite Marvel-characters after a time. She was different enough from Bruce to provide her own appeal. She could control her own transformation, but she did not get stronger the angrier she got or anything. It was a fixed power level. She did keep her intellect, though. She was playful, sarcastic, flirty and had a habit of breaking the fourth wall a good decade or so before Deadpool came along. She was a bit of an 80's non-radical feminist. You know, the strong independent woman who was secure in her own sexuality? Not the angry, spiteful harpy that tells everyone how independent and powerful she is while throwing tantrums when she doesn't get her way. Walters was an interesting character. She had hit the superpower jackpot, she wasn't sulking around and bemoaning her tragic existence, she punched bad guys, made bank as a lawyer, and was notoriously fond of men, with the occasional nod to the audience and/or writer. It wasn't overly dramatic or tense, it was mostly just fun. Leave the pathos to the X-Men and Spider-Man, girls just wanna have fun. The opposite of modern, "All-New" Marvel.
_She could control her own transformation, but she did not get stronger the angrier she got or anything. It was a fixed power level._ Well, I just found this out and it's kind of interesting. Apparently, her powers amplify her own natural strength, which basically means that if she trains and gains as Jennifer Walters, her strength as She-Hulk will increase _exponentially._
The 60-issue run of Sensational She-Hulk from John Byrne IS a great comic and WOULD make a great show!! However this does look like a sad woke modern adaptation. Apparently we can't just have complex entertaining characters who possess strength & confidence as well as human insecurities & struggles; they need to upset the establishment and save the world through being better than everyone. Oh well.
Hulk: “The transformation is triggered by anger and fear.” Me: “You mean the two most prominent emotions people who like good stories feel when Marvel makes a new show or movie nowadays?” Hulk: “Exactly”
All this will definetly hurt Real Woman. Gender-Swapping and making Everything Female is so f-ing weird. No problem with female Superheroes but Wokeness is just S-it.
One more thing: "What's more depressing than dating in your 30's?" Serious answer: Dating in your 40's, 50's, 60's, etc., which is something people who ask that question tend to find out as a result of being the kind of ungrateful person who would ask that question in the first place. But I get that's the kind of character they're making her out to be: shallow, insecure, and getting in the way of her own happiness. It's basically a female comedy trope at this point.
Its hilarious how they always try to appeal to minorities, but made a terrible job at it...they just told all women in their 30s who are still single that they should be depressed.
Old school She-Hulk started off a wallflower before becoming Queen Green. Maybe here she starts off a cynical and jaded spinster before embracing the She-Hulk persona? Considering Marvel's awful track record of late I don't have high hopes.
People are just in denial and upset about finally someone surpassed that tall zombie lady. Better be cradled to smoochie time by a smokin green hot chic than a tall pale lady probably smells like a corpse that turns out to be a giant flying rotten flesh. Besides, death by snu snu is the best way to go, right? 😉
Actually, She-Hulk is a well-fleshed-out character in the comics and a nice spin on the hulk concept. While Bruce is an intelligent, sensitive man with trauma who transforms into a Violent Savage, Jen is a shy, meek woman who transforms into a confident reliable Bombshell. While Bruce hates and is at odds with the hulk, Jen loves and becomes too dependent on She-hulk. In both cases, the main arc for these characters is to close the gap between their two inner persons, to become full beings.
@@shen5533 Right? He read She Hulk's description like she hasn't been a character that has been around for over 40 years at this point. Honestly I think these guys are just mad the MCU isn't gritty and like to pretend the MCU before Endgame was way more serious and dramatic (fyi: it wasn't. The only real drama in those 10 years were the Cap movies and Infinity War/Endgame
I would unironically have more faith in Saul Goodman being my lawyer if I was a superhero over the MCU She-Hulk, her comic counterpart pre-2016 was an amazing character and drop-dead gorgeous before they turned her into Gigantor.
Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? The constitution says you do! And so do I. Conscience gets expensive, doesn't it? For a substantial fee, and I do mean substantial, you and your loved ones can vanish. Untraceable. I want it in a money order and make it out to Ice Station Zebra Associates. That's my loan out. It's totally legit … it's done just for tax purposes. After that we can discuss Visa or Mastercard, but definitely not American Express, so don't even ask, all right? You're a high-risk client. You're gonna need the deluxe service. It's gonna cost you. If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it. I never should have let my dojo membership run out. Better safe than sorry. That's my motto. As to your dead guy, occupational hazard. Drug dealer getting shot? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's been known to happen." Don't drink and drive, but if you do, call me.
I grew up reading Marvel before Marhel was cool. It makes me sad to see them fall like this.... but for some reason I gotta eat what The Drinker is serving up! Thanks for the pristine package Dark Harvest arrived in Drinker, I appreciate it man.
Just wanted to say, regarding the age difference of cousins: I have friends whose oldest sibling is 30 years their senior, and I had another friend who was classmates with his niece who was older by a few months (they were both born in 1991, and he was an uncle the day he came out). Just saying that age and being related doesn't matter much.
It just felt like they wanted to have a girlboss, you know a female so perfect that there will be side characters just to praise her, then they looked at she Hulk on some random comic, and made the show ( without any research of course).
Old comic-Shullkie is actually pretty awesome. She’s fun, loves life and her powers, and used to be Marvels resident 4th-wall-breaker (her spads with the artist about her „costumes“ are legendary) before Deadpool. I still fondly remember the Marvel Heroes game designers running completely wild with her lawyer theme (with her skills named things like „Objection!“).
I have to say when I saw the name of the show I was excited, it reminds me of the old school She hulk days.... I loved her when she was in the FF as well "hey what is big and green and has a staple in her navel" one of my favorite covers.
I love the idea, that the implicit message of the show is, the only way women can make it in this world, is if they become as manly as possible. Empowering isn't it?
This isn't meant to be a message about women in general, its just about a lawer who gets super strength, I guess a women can never get super strength super powers without someone like you saying it's trying to give that message
I will watch this movie only if she shouts "she-hulk smash" from the bedroom after a tinder date and the dude subsequently plummets into the lower level of her apartment.
A part of me really wishes that our assumptions are wrong and the show will turn out great, but with the constant disappointments from Marvel recently, it's really hard to get my hopes up. I'll still watch it on my friend's Disney Plus account probably. Oh small thing about cousins, I have two first cousins who are like 23 years apart, so I guess Bruce Banner and whatever her name is being cousins isn't really that out there
The best and most nuanced female characters are strong in their own way without being strong in EVERY way. Once upon a time, screenwriters even remembered that.
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I'm guessing this is one Tatiana u won't be going near right Drinker?
100% epic woke fail!!!!! (At least Captain Carter has DD cups. )
Does she hulk get a boost of power if she is PMSing
Surprised you didn’t Race Bait like you did with America Chavez “Guatemala Chavez” “Venezuela Chavez”
@@emmottrosaschi9841 Yikes..
I’m so tired of every single Marvel character being a cocky, arrogant, overconfident, narcissistic, jokey, quirky, and borderline sociopathic moron that says nothing but quirky quips and one-liners in every situation. I hate it.
I feel you on that one
Avengers made a lot of money, so now all studio heads think the key to comic book adaptation success is to make every character a knock-off Joss Whedon character. These movies and shows will have to completely flop before they change direction.
And EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVRYONE is talking at the same time and really fast.
That's actually a real character trait She-Hulk possesses
@@stelmaria8991 "That every single one of them possess"
FIFY.
You know what the worst part is? A story about a lawyer who cleans up after superheroes is actually a great idea.
That pretty much sums up my view on an awful lot of media over the past couple years. Genuinely interesting ideas, but so thoroughly ruined by putting them in the hands of all the wrong people that no one else will risk touching them for a decade or more.
It is... That's why She Hulk could've worked as a show. Besides being the typical Superhero show, it also adds in the court case drama.
Like the Boys??
I was just thinking that. Something like Suits crossed with The Boys could've been cool.
I had the same thought, like there's an angle, you could explore that. I'm sure there is LOADS of creative depth there. But nah, fuck that.
Me: Wow, that was a pretty savage review from the Drinker, for someone who hasn't seen the first episode yet.
*Watches Frist Episode*
Also Me: Wow, the Drinker went pretty easy on this garbage.
Oof stones:
How did we go from The Incredible Hulk to …this?
@@gramer3593 money
I was gonna say,
He didnt even watch the show
He said that Jen wants these powers because
*REASON*
She got in a car accident in THE FIRST epasode that gave her hulk powers by accident
She didnt ask bruce to give them to her
@@RouxTheKitsune yeah, it also shows he doesn't actually give a shit about the comics, because this is a 40 year old character, who ALWAYS got her powers from a blood transfusion from Bruce, it was never voluntary. This video makes it obvious he's never heard of this character before, and thinks Marvel just came up with her because WOKE!!
"Hulk transform and his shirt rips off.
She-Hulk transforms and only her shoes break.
That doesn't seem fair, does it?"
-Scarlet Witch
She-Hulk and Bat Girl aren't bad characters. Modern media just can't adapt them in a way that doesn't seem garbage because they have to stay in line with THE MESSAGE.
There are no bad characters, only bad writers.
And for people to get excited for NEXT PRODUCT!
She looks like Fiona from Shrek
Isn't that pretty much the case for every modern movie?
uuuh question.... is this She-Hulk or has Fiona from Shrek gotten herself her own movie? Seriously I can't tell...
Feminists: "stop saying women are too emotional"
She-hulk: "anger and fear are the baseline of women existing"
Dude, learn to read the room: Blacks can say -igga, Jews can joke about Jews and women can talk about other women. STAY IN YOUR LANE and never mind the insanity.
Also men say "nice ass" they get punched for toxic masculinity
women says it "you go girl!!!!"
@@CorePathway If we've learned anything from Ricky Gervais, it's to always tell the hard truth to their faces and politely invite the lane minders to kindly piss off.
@@CorePathway I think that joke was delivered a little too dead-pan. Almost sounds like you are serious.
And the writers are supposed to be progressive, lol.
To be fair, I have a cousin 32 years older than me so that’s definitely not the most unrealistic part about this show
My mom has an uncle thats 15 year younger than him
Kinda weird how the Hulk actually makes sense anatomically speaking, his limbs are trunks and he’s massive which fits super strengyh
She-Hulk however is just… tall green girl
Side Note:
In the comics, She-Hulk LOVES her powers and has no interest in being "an anonymous lawyer". In fact, she sees them as a gift because Bruce gave her an emergency blood transfusion which saved her life. Meaning she went from being an aspiring nobody on death's door to a superhuman renowned lawyer (very easy to advertise herself as a "super lawyer" and represent the Avengers). The point is Jennifer's life got way better thanks to the Hulk, but Bruce's turned into a nightmare.
This is because the Hulk is a manifestation of one's inner psyche. Bruce is a victim of childhood domestic abuse with repressed rage and fear. And this right here means the Hulk is Bruce Banner's DEFENCE MECHANISM. If Bruce is getting angry or scared, the Hulk assumes Bruce must be in danger and bursts out to destroy everything in sight then run away somewhere isolated and quiet. "Hulk just wants to be left alone!" is one of The Hulk's most iconic lines. This is also why Hulk calls Bruce "puny" - it's self-loathing from Bruce's abuse.
Compare this trauma to Jennifer's much healthier pysche with strong aspirations and it's no wonder that their respective 'Hulks' are worlds apart, and Jennifer desperately wants to help her cousin. So, if you change this fundamental part of Jennifer's character, you also change her relationship with Bruce.
Yet another example of a female character being someone who girls could look up to in the 90s and 2000s, only to be "modernized" and "fixed" for bitter women. See also: Mulan.
Yes exactly! Jen was a female version done correctly.
Rebuttal, Gamma Radiation induced powers have always had a psychological bend to them based on the receiver's various issues. Being turned into the Hulk is in no way, shape, or form the norm with that stuff as The Leader can attest to.
You haven't even seen the show yet and considering this an origin story it will very likely end up like that
@@lukactj Right like chill
How about yu let the story play out 1st no one would b okay with turning into a hulk without an adjustment period
"Superheroes are just narcissists."
*Proceeds to act arrogantly and only do things that benefit herself.*
Yeah. Captain America totally threw himself on a dummy grenade in training to help himself, and was willing to give up his life at the end of that movie for the good of the world because he'd gain something from it. Totally a narcissist, am I right?
Yea. That's the point. Its called a character arc. You know where they learn from their experiences......holy fuck...are you 12?
Peter Parker in Spiderman 2: "Am I joke to you?"
@@Zac_Frost Captain America was a man. And white. That's the definition of narcissist if I have my woke psychology right...
Clearly she has never known any of the Avengers.
HELL THE HULK puts his life on the line on many occasions for the greater good even when he thought himself a monster and hated what he is and the people that hunted and feared him.
DOUBLE HELL Black Widow sacrificed herself as well to save the lives of millions, Tony, Thor, Spidey, Strange- Every fuckin one of em has made the hard decision.
She better have a character arc to be humbled by what it means to take up the mantle of a hero. But in this day and age that is unlikely.
"I'm sure their wives' boyfriends must be very proud of them." The lines man, the lines. Killing it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Total swipe.
I think X-23 gets a pass because she's Wolverine's daughter, and her origin story and current story doesn't try to spread THE MESSAGE
When she said "being a superhero is only for billionaires, narcissists and Adult orphans", my interest died.
Oh, great. A bunch of bots.
By billionare-narcissist did she mean Tony Stark? Tony Stark who literally sacrificed his life to save the universe?
Yeah,same here
@@john_squatson These are female heroes, sacrifice and struggle aren't in their lexicon.
@@john_squatson because the show is before Endgame
Female characters *can* be memorable. You just have to-
you know-
actually write them.
Have you ever read She-Hulk?
@@GangstaStan010 nope, he hasn’t. Most people in this comment section haven’t
@@reyes8143 Except the way she was portrayed on the Dr Strange movie doesn't really work. She basically killed of dozens of people to get to her make belive children and specifically children who already have a mother instead of you know going to a universe where they are orphans or maybe adopting someone else's or maybe making them? Did they ever address why she can't make her fictional babies in her universe but somehow made them in others? I also saw a video about a number of things she's done in the comics and the long story short she isn't really much of a hero she's more like someone who has superpowers that means well but often ends up making things worse and killing people in the process. Then it feels likes she's a villain but no one will be able to properly control her as a threat.
@@richards1708 yea she kinda wasted as a villain but her development is still great nonetheless. She could be the next biggest threat in the avengers saga since she’s far stronger than thanos. If anyone is wrong, its the MCU. Her character is fine.
@@reyes8143 I wish I had the link to that video with me of that is how she is in the comics she's not fine at all. Maybe in the movie world before multiverse of madness.
I liked She Hulk from the 90s Hulk cartoon
She wasn't pushing any agenda or anything
Just one, confident, charming character
Also having 20 years gap between cousins is not unheard of
they could be 2nd 3rd 4th 5th cousins , there could be a much bigger gap lol there is between me and my 5th/6th cousin Rocket Ron Haslam
I’m a high school student that has a first cousin that already has a husband, one son that is a year older than me, and a daughter. It’s definitely not unheard of.
My understanding is that they changed her origin story from the comic books. I am a long time Marvel comic book reader, I quite way back when they started with all the SJW, Feminism stuff. Yes I hated Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel and continue to hate the character today with her bloviated abilities that make no sense. Anyway, in the comic books Jennifer Walters, the lawyer is shot by a bad guy. Bruce Banner is forced to do an emergency blood transfusion in order to save his cousin's life. His blood then alters her into the She-Hulk.
In the movie it appears the Bruce and Jennifer are in a car accident and Jennifer pulls Bruce from the wreckage. Which makes no sense since any thinking human being would have thought Bruce would have changed instantly into the Hulk, just as he did when he tried to kill himself. Anyway, during her "rescuing" of Bruce apparently his blood somehow magically seeps into her body. (another almost completely impossible event). Not only that but enough of his blood gets into her body (not being attacked by her own white blood cells) to change her into the She-Hulk.
Even putting aside all the stupidity involved in this new origin story, the big question is WHY? Why was it necessary to change the origin story? What problem did She-Hulks Marvel cannon origin story create that made it necessary to change it?
One final comment: I guess Marvel doesn't understand that young boys/men are the ones who primarily read comic books. In my entire life, and I am not a young person, I have found very few women who give a sh*t about ANYTHING related to comic books. Not saying there aren't any but come on, what maybe 10%.?
Female comic book reader here. There’s lots of us!
Just wanted to clear up that in the show, Bruce was wearing his ‘inhibitor’ device to keep himself in human form. So that’s why he didn’t change to Hulk, and also why he bled.
I agree it was a perfectly solid origin story I dont understand why they changed it
"Your transformations are triggered by anger and fear"
"Those are like, the baseline of any woman just existing."
I'm glad that no man goes through life filled with feelings of fear and anger ... we just play golf, drink beer and point at boobs all day, every day.
Honestly playing golf seems like a good way to relax given the hectic nature of these last couple of years,might be nice to try out one of these days
That sounds like heaven
Male privilege, high five!
Sssshhhhhh! You can’t tell me what our lives are actually like! Do you want them to find out?
😆
The fact that so many writers can’t create good female lead movies without horribly blasting and dehumanizing any male character says a lot.
One thing I can honestly say. I have no understanding at all where this phase of Marvel is going. I can't claim I have watch any series other than Moon Knight in its entirety but a collection of these new generation of heroes joining together to fight some global menace such as ending the threat of wet paper bags just seems so absurd.
First they give us The Eternals and give us a poor explanation on why they weren't in End Game and then they give us Egyptian gods and goddess and their human representatives and they don't even mother asking the question where these gods were during End Game. Hell, it might as well not have even happen at this point. They keep wanting to give us the next " "bestest ever" while bashing white men.
As a prime example. They wanted a new Captain America so we get ex-falcon to take his place. You need a new improved falcon, so Moon Knight gives us female Falcon 2.0.
The only good ones right now are from cartoons
That’s what was great about Wonder Woman - she stood on her own merits in the movie, alongside Steve Trevor, not despite him. He had his own strengths.
I feel like there’s a lot that writers could learn about their dynamic.
@@ConorJTobin Alas, feminist writers can not think outside their "men evil and toxic, women stunning and brave" mindset. Sadly, we're likely in this woke era for the long haul.
@@ConorJTobin I'm still surprised the first Wonder Woman movie was free of any of the modern feminist rethoric, especially considering that it came out in 2017, when it was at its peak.
And that just makes more infuriating how later female superhero movie turned out. They literally had a perfect template and chose to ignore it.
I honestly thought Disney learned something from the reviews on star wars.
Creating a super-powered-woman by gifting her all the skills and immediate abilities where she is without training instantly better than the male counterpart, while also making all the better jokes and having the more interesting life, is not realistic at all.
Apparently in the comics that's how it was and if that the case then fine. My gripe is they contrast it with hulk being a fucking goof. Can't have strong female characters without degrading the male ones
Damn, does NO ONE read the comics?
If want realistic watch documentary or something not superhero show
@@jessicalukram74 superheroes need to believable as well
You're wrong on one part.
Rey never existed before hand. And never was gonna exist.
Shehulk has exist as a comic for a long ass time.
So at least shehulk didn't just pop up out of nowhere, as the granddaughter pretty much satan
Fem Hulk: "I'm not a superhero - That is for billionaires and narcissists and Adult Orphans"
Iron man: "superheroes? Like wise, intelligent, and capable individuals?"
Batman: "I think she meant 'successful human beings' "
Superman: "she's referring to 'selfless and kind hearted people' "
Deadpool: "uh oh fatherless behaviour"
Spiderman: "take it easy man- her cousin's right there"
Hulk: "no no- I don't feel angry... just a little disappointed"
Dream stans
Groot : groot
what
“Anger and fear…are just, like, the baseline of any woman existing.”
So I’m guessing she’s an attorney without any experience representing men in Family Court.
Its not even an absurd thing for a girl to sayI don’t know why people are focusing on one shitty quip.
@@Jummugest because it implies that men don't experience the same thing on a daily basis and perpetuates the victim mentality that feminists weaponise with everything they come into contact with.
@@Jummugest it hilariously sums up modern feminists, so..
Its true for men as well but women are more open and intuned with it. I thought the line was funny.
Why do I feel like any new female jedi would say that when her master explains anger and fear?
In the comics she needed a blood transfusion from Bruce. This gives her the gamma powers of the Hulk but much milder side effects to her psyche. She was timid and meek in her human form but in She-hulk form she was the strong confident person she always wanted to be which is why Jennifer preferred that form.
I wonder why they changed the back story.
@@FamilyAcademy1 How do you know they did? It seems that the car crash we see in the trailer, could be the need for blood transfusion.
@@madselmvig1457 It is modern entertainment...don't know where you've been the last decade, but that is about the safest bet imaginable.
@@madselmvig1457 but she's literally standing straight inside that glass containment, cracking jokes
@@nischay4760 That's probably Bruce training her on how to use/control her transformation. You don't step into a chamber with fucking circular saws in it to gain powers...
Disney has turned the concept of Hulks into a joke. Back in the David Banner/Bill Bixby era, when his eye color changed, you knew the shit was about to hit the fan, watching that as a kid scared the shit out of me, and that was the point, Hulks are supposed to be scary.
Then comes along Disney, and first we have Hulk not wanting to come out in Infinity War, then in endgame, they turned hulk into a comic relief with Half Banner/Half Hulk. Now, She Hulk is just an Ally McBeal or Sex and the City sitcom, why not just add a laugh track to the show, too?
the laughing track would improve the show
This show is actually really funny if you think about like this: it is a social commentary on how modern women see themselves vs the reality. Jen believes that the world is holding her back, while she is the one who is a failure. She thinks men are the problem, while it is clear that women hold her back more then women. 🥳
Consider this: the show's villian is a woman, yet Jen is a feminist. 🤔
Now, I’m not a woman, so I asked my wife if she lives in a constant state of anger and fear. She responded by letting out a deep, disgruntled sigh and and asked me “what feminist bull-shit have you been reading now?”
That is hilarious. xD Hope you showed her the trailer. ^^
Your wife obviously has a serious case of internalized misogyny 😂
Spat my tea for laughing, and then tried to think of when I was last angry or fearful.
I couldn't even remember.
You, Sir, are one lucky husband.
She's a keeper
“Is there anything worse than dating in your thirties” has the same feeling as, “you think your life’s tough? Try being a girl wearing size 11 Nikes” so I have absolutely no hope for this mess
You remember that movie too?
She chose the life of a career woman so suck it up.
Who you trying to convince? lol
You’ll still watch it
I won’t especially since this looks less like She-Hulk and more like Fiona.
EDIT-Also it might be shit.
*when you wear a size 12 in shoes* My life must be absolute sht then...
When I was a kid and I saw Edward Norton as Incredible Hulk I thought, “oh my god, this is it they’ve found the perfect hulk actor and just like the others he did such a good job they’re gonna keep him!” My heart was broken when I saw Avengers and it was mark ruffalo. I was actually sad. Marvel, you made a 14 yr old cry!!!
“Female characters aren’t the problem. It’s how their depicted” quoted by a video that a saw not to long ago. Some of the female characters like bat girl or bat woman isn’t bad, I actually like a few of their versions but it’s how they are now depicted is the problem.
She Hulk : I'm a lawyer. It's a demanding job.
Daredevil : First time?
She Hulk : I have a frustrating family.
Daredevil : You have a family?
Unfortunately they are about to ruin Daredevil.. whatever movie or series comes out with him, they will nerf him down..
deadpool and his girl conversations, would actually be hilarious to see these 2 going at it like that.
She-Hulk: "I dont *see* why are you so upset about this"
Daredevil: "...really!?"
@@SK008 They turned Kingpin into a joker, and what little we saw of Daredevil in NWH...yeah.
Rumour is he will have a cameo in this show, he will basically just show up to get fucked by Jennifer.
@@SK008 Daredevil is easily my favorite show because its gritty, honest and actually builds the characters and leaves the audience to decide whether it's for better or worse. Best part is that its not preachy at all. At first I was excited to see him in Spiderman, but now after seeing these new shows and movies, I'm horrified.
"the transformations are triggered by fear and anxiety"
"That's like, the baseline of having a Disney+ subscription nowadays"
Lmao
@@JesusGonzalez-kg2fe Not even a movie, bro.
@@JesusGonzalez-kg2fe lol keep spamming the same malding bs kiddo
Smart people cancelled their Disney + and use free websites for that rare 1 out of 100 shows that’s half way decent. I wouldn’t pay a dollar a year for Disney + lol
@@JesusGonzalez-kg2fe aNd tHoSe oF kArEN. Lol goofy kid, keep simping for marvel ig. That is why you are a little kiddo.
Lmao, I love how he roasts tf outta these shows without even seeing anything but the trailer but his predictions always come true
Drinkerdamus
Well he may be a drinker, but he’s not an idiot.
when I heard the line about anger and fear being a womans baseline, my eyes rolled so hard they almost fell out of my head
"That is for billionaires and narcissists, and adult orphans."
The irony of how narcissistic that line sounds...
All they have to do is have a follow up line from the other character,
"You don't Say'
"I guess you fit the Bill",
Etc
It can be pulled off
Superior not narcissistic.
I mean she isn't wrong. She's saying it's for people who feel the need to prove something and want to show off.
She's like " I'm 30 and cry into my cereal at midnight because life kinda sucks. That's not me. "
Which isn't narcissistic. Her life isn't where she wants it atm. It's not dramatic and she doesn't fit the bill or have the personality type.
She's just some lady with powers now and no aspirations that line up with them.
@@iTeacupPanda I get what you're saying, but at the same time, so much of this trailer was her "showing off." And to top it off, she said that line in a super condescending and prideful way. I'm sure there's going to be a moment of humility for her, in realizing her potential and personal responsibility, but based on this trailer alone she was nothing but narcissistic, in my view. So, it just seems ironic that this is a stipulation for her.
Narcissist that sacrificed himself to save the universe .
As soon as she says “Bruce, I don’t need you too mansplain everything” I’m tipping my cap and waving farewell to the mcu.
Yep. With this series and the current condition of the M-SHE-U, I fear this is the last time we'll see the Hulk.
Good lmao
sensitive incel levels off the chart here
For some reason any time a man discusses something passionately or in depth it’s called “mansplaining”,
When a woman does it, it’s a Monday. No , it’s anytime they open their mouth.
You haven't already?
Maybe its a good thing that Tony, Steve & Nat arent around to see the destruction being done to the universe they worked so hard to build. Makes me miss Iron Man even more lol. Endgame was truly the end.
Not only she-hulk can think and talk normally, but the hulk can as well as he creates the she-hulk. What social justice isn't accomplishing these days. It's a miracle I tell you, A MIRACLE!
All I could remember when watching this trailer was the heartbreaking line Bruce gave when he told the other Avengers he’d attempted suicide because he saw no way out of everything that being the Hulk was. That line punches me in the gut every single time. And now he’s just…putting another human being through that so casually? What the cinnamon toast fuck-
Clearly he changed his mind after Jen told him it couldn't have been as bad as dating in your thirties.
In the comics he had a choice between saving her life but giving her powers or... letting her die. She could transform at will.
Well he perfected hulkdom and learned to control it, so it's totally different now. I mean look at her, she's completely normal as hulk. To me, that's the dumbest thing about the hulk character now. There were consequences when he was a mindless rage machine. This would have been better had she not been able to control it, having the idea blow up in Bruces face.
@@reignman30 She-Hulk’s always been in control of her stronger form, it’s something that’s separated her from her cousin throughout their histories. It’s essentially her but with all inhibitions shed. She’s strong in her own right, but she’s not nearly as powerful as her cousin.
Originally she was on her death bed apparently which makes one hell of a difference. . .
Gotta love how it took Hulk like a decade to gain control of himself, and she-hulk does it in 20 minutes. Just like how Rey in star wars just immediately becomes a master with zero training.
Welcome to THE MESSAGE of Hollywood
Exactly
it's because her situation is different she is ment to be a inverse that's how she exists in the comic
Well… technology?
She-Hulk's been like that since the 80's
disney's next phase:
1.kid hulk(gets mad when adults say no more candy)
2.spider kid(doge a neighbour's pitbull with his pre-mature spidy sense)
3.kid thor (well he doesn't have a hammer, not yet)
4.kid loki(of course he/she has similar sibling, also not the favourite one)
5.iron girl/boy(build a card board armor with his/her's 4th grade engeineering skills)
6.kid america( what's he going to do pick up an AR in middle of the class?)
This would be mad entertaining 😂
Shows with awesome kick ass women that both men and women can root for:
Ghost in the shell
Crouching tiger hidden dragon
Terminator (1&2)
Matrix
Red dawn
Resident evil
There are more but the point is that they are female characters which are powerful, inspiring, educated, intelligent, etc…so this isn’t a “woman hating” thing. The problem with characters like she hulk is their non stop whining coupled with simultaneous unearned bravado and topped off with snooty and holier than thou wokism which makes even the strongest of stomachs churn with illness.
That adult orphans and billionaires line is hilarious, obviously it’s in reference to Tony Stark and Batman, which is funny to me because the main narrative of the McU is Tony stark learning to become a selfless man, great way to discredit him, Batman was never a narcissist, if anything he’s self loathing, to an unhealthy degree. Also which one of the others avengers cast qualifies in those categories? None of them.
TONY SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO SAVE HALF THE UNIVERSE, WHY IS THE SHREK LADY TRASHING ON HIM
What the fuck is an "adult orphan" anyway?
Lol. no
Stark was always an arrogant narcissistic tool.
Bruce was always a sociopath out for vengeance
@@susragejr477 tOnY oNlY dId It FoR tHe FaMe.
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 and Batman is a man constantly trying to make the world a better place to the point of harming himself 🗿🗿🗿
If they legitimately make Jennifer's transformation nothing more than "Yeah, let me do this..." then I'm absolutely out. Jenn's origin was that she received an emergency blood transfusion from Bruce after an accident (which I assume is the accident we see in the trailer), and it rendered her green, larger, and still completely within her mental faculties. She saw her powers as a GOOD thing, and she became a metahuman lawyer because the supers really didn't have an advocate. This bastardization of both her and the Hulk is...gross.
I agree. This is character assassination.
Honestly as obvious as that is, and with the flaw of the only person able to give her a transfusion being Banner, I’d still prefer that. At least she has thoughts and good reasons, not some vain bullshit like what you’re going to see here. I’m out on MCU.
And now they’re gonna fuck up Abomination even harder than they already did in Shang-Chi. I bet you they’re gonna make him a complete joke instead of the power-lusting, viscous monster he was in Incredible Hulk. God damn it Disney.
*“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.*
*those who know the source of the quote have exceptional geek cred*
The JJ pausing at stupid parts had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
I thought it interesting how they changed her origin. In the comics she is injured and needs a blood transfusion and the only person near enough to give it to her is her cousin Bruce Banner ...so she gets her power from him.
A bad sign about the quality of this show is the fact no one including the Drinker even bothered to complain about the totally crappy CGI 🤣
....wait you're right. Oh man.
It's a meh
aint too shit looking tbh
Shrek re-imagined
Brought to you by Marvel
Yeah its not that bad .
I just love how one of the key points they seem to be pushing is just how depressing and difficult dating is for a woman in her thirties right up until she has an elective medical procedure that changes her physical looks and size. I don't know if that's the writer's own personal experience or just their bias, but either way I find it hilarious.
Yea noticed that too lol
I'm in my 30s, and I've taken good care of myself, so I can easily pass for someone in their 20s. It's sad how some people think that if you haven't dated by a certain point in your life, then you're a pathetic incel who has passed their expiration date.
Maybe she shouldn't have done a ton of cocaine in law school haha. Am in 30s and still pass for 20s. Regardless, been having loads of fun in life taking trips, going out, doing things. Definitely have more money now that I'm in my 30s. Other people I know spent all day crying on their 30th. Ok whatever I took a 3,000 mile road trip for my 30th. You do you I guess 🤷
I found that to be pretty funny too. I'm hoping she wasn't even close to being serious.
I think women should be sarcastic and comedic too. It's just difficult to judge based solely on a trailer.
@@dianebrooks1859 seriously! I'm approaching 30 and a phenomenal trip with my bestie sounds amazing. Stealing this idea right now
Anyway, it's 2022, we don't even hit our prime until we're 40. Change my mind.
Before, it was when you're best to have kids. That doesn't define us anymore. Why are we acting like this is 1560 and I'll die of old age by the time I'm 50?
It’s possible to have a cousin that’s 20 years younger than you. Hell, I have a nephew that is older than me and has a kid.
You're videos have me dying of laughter lmao God bless
"I just want to be a normal, anonymous lawyer."
Which is why she signed on to take cases involving super heroes which will obviously be highly publicized and involve tons of exposure for her but whatever.
Well, it does seem to speak to the mindset of women who dress to show off every inch of their bodies, then complain when guys look.
Most career-focused people go where the money is. Higher profile jobs usually pay more.
The trailer implied she wasn't given a choice.
Should have just says "I just want to be a contradiction" and I would have been like "finally, a bit of honesty."
@@SergeyPupkoMusic She-Hulk got her powers from an emergency blood transfusion. The blood needed to come from a blood relative and Bruce Banner was the only relative she had available in the small amount of time she had in which to have the operation.
The problem isn’t the character, but the writers. Back in the 1980s, John Byrne wrote “The Sensational She-Hulk” and it was a funny, well written series that had Jennifer Walters as a funny, likable character. If we didn’t have incompetent, ideological writers writing this show (along with so many others), She-Hulk would be just as good a character as she was back in the 80s.
I loved that series!
How was it different? Jc.
@@freemasonslayer where she sounds about as charming and fun as a dead squirrel
@@freemasonslayer The purpose of a trailer is to make people want to watch the product. If people don't like the trailer, whose fault is it? And how can you blame people for talking about said trailer?
Was it a popular comic on the 80s?
She-Hulk is present in the original Infinity Gauntlet comics. She speaks very casually, which is a refreshing contrast to the other heroes which speak very formally. I liked her there a lot. She seemed upbeat and well-meaning, concerned for the civilians who were being hurt or killed in the Snap and subsequent natural disasters.
3:00 Age gaps between cousins are nothing out of the ordinary, take me for example: I'm a teenager and one of my first cousins is in his 40's and has a kid that's older than me.
The thing that's truly sad is, this could have been a really good buddy cop-style superhero story with Hulk and She-Hulk. In the comics, Jen got into an accident and needed a blood transfusion. The only person available was Bruce, who hesitantly agreed not knowing what the side effects of his Gamma-infused blood would be. She got a much milder version of his "Hulkness" allowing her to stay in control of herself at all times while transformed, and with enough training, became able to switch back and forth at will. She initially didn't like it, but eventually came to accept and embrace it, and grew into the role of a true hero.
This on the other hand... just looks like content.
That's all it's meant to be...Content
..but we can't have a man saving her now can we. No matter how fantastical or true to source the reason.
@@blackmage6842 True, but I'm sick of "Content" I want something good for once. All of these new characters they've ruined right from their introduction could have been great if any of them gave a solitary fuck.
@@Zac_Frost Yeah, well marvel is doing well enough that they can pump out "content" and it does well. No need to change.
I mean, they only half-did half-skipped-over the buddy cop thing twice already, I have no hope for them to do that formula right.
"Anger and fear... are the baseline of any woman existing."
Anakin Skywalker: Not just the women, but the men and the children too!
*"I HATE THEM!"*
*Gets canceled*
Ah 👉 I see what you did there lol
Existing and non existing.
Also anakin: "This is where the fun begins!"
"Angry and afraid"...man, those sure are qualities I'd want in a women...barf...
Tbf, thats accurate of the source character. Winters doesn't have to struggle with an alter-ego Hulk. She also breaks the 4th wall in the comics, a lot too. - She hulk, is a lot more "Archie", than say "Avengers", lets put it that way..
The momentary issue I had, was with how she became. - In the comics, one of the perps she put away (a mobster) jumps her and Bruce, and blows Walters away. Bruce saves her with a blood transfusion and the side effect is She Hulk. - Builds her public image as an "it girl" who's all that. Party hardy, pinup chick. Who's more serious side is very much shaped by injustice, which Walter's considers social justice and vigilantism to be part of. - So, it'll be very interesting to see if producers debunk their own agenda by followingbthe source. My guess is not, seeing they already flipped.
That said, I enjoyed it otherwise. Todays hip is not very cool, frankly its kinda tragic and very uncool. But whaddaya do. Laying off that rag a lot would probably net a better reception too.
Brilliant work!! The world needs more minds like yours. Thank you. Parents often squander on high school $40K a year and not ONE of the teachers is as intelligent as you are.
"She's a strongly written character because she can be punched 100 times without dying"
-somebody who gets paid more in a year than I will in my life
The Punisher: pathetic
@She- hulk
Thank god! Finally...
Nasty woke trash. Only sheeple keep on paying for Disney's leftist propaganda.
How unfortunate.
"somehow he returned"
describes movies/series writers these days
The minute she disrespected every single hero who came before by calling them narcissists and adult orphans I knew we were not in for a good time.
No shit...I chucked the TV remote so hard at the screen, a freaking wormhole opened up. 🙄😑
czcams.com/video/aN-Qy4oOmp8/video.html
Finally it's here
@@arisel0v360 You watched it on your TV? And not like your phone or computer or laptop?
Edit: Ok I get it, but is the She-Hulk trailer really worth your TVs time, better yet anyone or anything’s time.
@@jackmrsich3178 Streaming on tv, duh.
That's cuRRenT amurican geek CULTure right there. It's disgusting how these people can't do things right nowadays...
you can have a 30 year age gap between cousins. Heck, you can have an uncle who is a good few years younger than the nephew
I came back to this video for the 4th time JUST for the opening 😂😂🤣🤣 Gold 👌🏼
MCU Execs: "We need women to like Comic book characters!"
Fans: "There are women who do like comic book characters."
MCU Execs: "But they're not Feminist enough!"
Feminists everywhere: "There have never been any women in comics!"
[Wendy Pini has entered the chat]
men and women have their areas of interest. there's probably a lot more men that like comics than women and that's fine. when my aunt was a teenager she read a lot of x men comics. now she mainly reads manga. if women want to read comic books, there's nothing stopping them.
@@MinecraftIsLoveMinecraftIsLife said women aren’t feminist enough.
Woman here. I like **MALE** comic book characters. Why the hell would I want to look at females?
@Robert Monroe if marvel want more female fans, then they should make more original female heroes with complex characters don't have the sole personality trait of smug.
"The transformations are triggered by anger and fear"
"Those are like the baseline of any woman just existing" - well, the writers, for sure.
That must be a really sad and depressing existence...
If you ask me, the transformation must be triggered by insecurity and entitlement. Things that are the baseline for "strong empowered women" living with first world problems.
I am beyond sick and tired of that constant statement of women being constantly angry/afraid. It misrepresents all of us women.
@@Tyler_W I know a lot of women that are like this. Totally a coincidence that those are the ones I avoid...
In my humble opinion, it’d be better if she said “Those are like the baseline for ME just existing”.
Telling people that they are scared and mad all the time is less effective than seeing a scared/mad person overcome their fear and leverage their anger.
I hope Disney will give up Marvel to an actually studio who stays close to the comic content, no censorship, no fu**king woke sh**, and lastly good story telling.
lawyers cleaning up after superheroes sounds a bit like the Incredibles
I personally appreciate that they're being upfront now instead of tricking us with the bait and switch. Saves me a lot of time!
Still waiting for the New Warriors TV show. :P
Maybe we will get a Squirel girl movie soon, as well.
Wasn't working anyway.
Friendly advice, if it’s an MCU release, save yourself time and just don’t watch nowadays.
@@L4nd0C4lr1s14n eh, I'm not as critical as many others, although I understand the anger and distrust of Disney.
No Way Home was great (Sony, mostly, I know), and I enjoyed Black Widow, Shang-Chi, WandaVision (until the end), and even Hawkeye. I like Doctor Strange 2, as well, and even made me forgive WandaVision a bit more since Wanda was evil.
Loki I heard enough awful things about to not even watch, didn't see Eternals and don't plan to, Moon Knight started off interesting and wound up being a big disappointment, and Falcon and the Winter Solider I hated more than any MCU project before it (including Inhumans). I also won't be watching Love and Thunder.
I judge each project individually.
I'm just here to say this: I'm a 47 years old tv writer from italy and every time Marvel or a Major Hollywood Studio drops a trailer I'm really happy, but not for the movie or series itself. It's because I know that The Critical Drinker will make a video about it. Seriously, thank you for what you do.
Mannucci
This is so true. I’m the same way and he gives me more entertainment than anything. I never watch anything but his channel I always watch!
As a fellow screenwriter i often find myself wondering why none of my personal scripts get optioned when garbage like this sells. Only scripts I've ever sold was people hiring me to write their own concepts, no one wants to even read mine. I was once at a really fancy cocktail party and had a chance to chat with a big name producer and he said they were starved for good writers, i told him its super easy to find good writers, i know plenty. He said where are they hiding, i said you know you guys don't even accept unsolicited scripts on your website right? The first step to actually hiring competent writers is probably just not screening them out at the front gate.
Same, somehow I like watching Drinker and other people’s reviews on modern cinema than the shows and movies themselves
@@Ben-rz9cf The reason you don't get accepted and garbage does is because you aren't attached to a brand.
@@Ben-rz9cf if everyone is rejecting you....where do you think the problem actual lies?
The creation of sex-swapped counterparts-- and kid sidekicks, for that matter-- is primarily a legal thing. Comics companies will create different versions of popular characters just to claim the rights to all the name combinations. If they don't, somebody else will snap up the variation and run with it. Case in point: Wonder Man.
wait... is she the actress from orphan black? If so, at least they chose a good actress... her role(s) in orphan black were all super well done
"Fear and anxiety are the baseline for a female just existing"
And lady that's why you're still looking for a date in your 30s
“Fear and anxiety” at least sounds somewhat sympathetic. But she said her baseline emotions are “anger and fear” which sounds like someone I would avoid.
No, she choose a job and career and then with 30 she realised that her biological clock is now ticking louder.
I know a lot of women in their mid 30s / early 40s what where not sleeping around but worked hard.
You all remember the: be a strong, successful independent woman thing?
Well, they realised that no-one gives a damn about their big house, fancy car and making + £ 60.000 plus bonus a year.
On the contrary, the most men don't care or don't even try to compete with them.
I meet recently a woman, she's 40 now. When she found out how much I make, her response was 'only" - and I was thinking - I don't know a lot of people what work in IT & Security making what I make - in what world does she live - turned out she earns 10k less then me.
This 'high' expectations, their behaviour pretty much disqualifies them of meeting someone.
@@ldorman Hypergamy in full effect lol
@@ldorman Dated 2 girls around their 40's. One was really apathetic towards sex, but craved lots of attention and caring (which drove me away eventually).
The other was bipolar. Both didn't have kids.
The cougar spirit was trying to break lose on both, but everytime you'd ask them what they're looking for in a relationship, the classic answer would come:
"I don't knooooow....."
@@ldorman sheesh is this what i have to look forward to..Yikes i’m exhausted just thinking about it yeah; No thank you..NEXT!
i’d much rather just keep on getting 1-nighters till im tired of getting laid an work an travel till i die
The thing is that in the comics, She Hulk has been a really good character, especially when drawn and written by John Byrne: Attractive, smart, and fully aware of the fourth wall. The version from recent comics -- I can't even.
Didn't they quickly scrap the "man She-Hulk" after they got blasted from all sides? Last I heard, she was back to looking like she used to
See it’s not impossible.
My first reaction to ultimate Spider-Man was oh cool, black Spider-Man.
Then Spider-verse made me think differently about him. His story paralleled peters, but it wasn’t a copy, Peter’s was about responsibility while miles’ was about expectations.
A character might seem like a trait swap, but that doesn’t mean that they can’t be compelling or interesting. Now when I see miles I don’t think black Spider-Man, I think hell yea it’s miles Morales. I changed my mind on him because I could relate to him on a personal level and I was invested in his story, and shocker, I’m not black. His race was never a driving force in his character in that movie. It was all about his personal struggles, which anyone can relate to regarding of race. That proved to me that he wasn’t just black Spider-Man, he was so much more.
But when writers don’t put effort into their characters and have their race/sexuality/gender dictate their character, it’s hard to see them as anything more than those labels. If you make a show about batwoman and the entire time all they talk about is how she is a woman, it’s really hard to not look at her as Batman but a woman. So yea I agree, it’s possible, just so much damn pandering keeps obscure characters who happen to be minorities from shining. Ruins their potential. Worst of all, they’ll never been see as anything more than a black Spider-Man or female Batman
@@boneman9751 Eh, for me Miles was the weakest part of Spider-verse. His story boiled down to the same milquetoast message that they keep giving to the 'minority' characters: "Just believe in yourself more and you can do it!" I liked Miles in Ultimate Spider-Man because he had to deal with feelings of inadequacy and worried he wouldn't measure up, especially after Peter died. But they just keep trying to shove him and Gwen Stacy into everything and it doesn't work 99% of the time.
Sexy and Smart
I got to know She-Hulk a lot more when she was in the Fantastic Four for some time. I liked her. Hot, smart, confident. Both as She-Hulk and as her alter-ego.
There was this one story where she was sunbathing in the roof. Topless. Some paparazzi in a helicopter took pics. When the pics got published (even her lawyer self couldn't stop it)... wait for it. They colour corrected. Instead of green skin, it was "corrected". So now no one would believe it was her in the pics.
Marvel went from The Incredible Hulk, to the Incredible Sulk.
"THE message" lol
This video never gets old, haven't watched or the interest of watching the show, but I'm pretty sure that this video is more interesting and fun to watch lol
She-hulk feels like a mix of "strong independent woman who don't need no mans" and sex and the city vibes with probably a dash of superhero lol
Oh god ,pls no
Greenmore Girls
You make it seem like she's going to be attracted to men in this. Rug my friend.. rug will win her heart just you see.
@@skyblue6092 ?
Well, that's actually what the character is. Minus the not needing a man part. Shulkie loved men. But you can do that well and in a non-pandering manner. Superhero Sex and the City is exactly what it should be - with a little bit of Gonzo/WTF thrown in for good measure.
I have an old She-Hulk comic from the 80's. She grew into one of my favourite Marvel-characters after a time.
She was different enough from Bruce to provide her own appeal.
She could control her own transformation, but she did not get stronger the angrier she got or anything. It was a fixed power level. She did keep her intellect, though.
She was playful, sarcastic, flirty and had a habit of breaking the fourth wall a good decade or so before Deadpool came along.
She was a bit of an 80's non-radical feminist. You know, the strong independent woman who was secure in her own sexuality? Not the angry, spiteful harpy that tells everyone how independent and powerful she is while throwing tantrums when she doesn't get her way.
Walters was an interesting character. She had hit the superpower jackpot, she wasn't sulking around and bemoaning her tragic existence, she punched bad guys, made bank as a lawyer, and was notoriously fond of men, with the occasional nod to the audience and/or writer.
It wasn't overly dramatic or tense, it was mostly just fun. Leave the pathos to the X-Men and Spider-Man, girls just wanna have fun.
The opposite of modern, "All-New" Marvel.
_She could control her own transformation, but she did not get stronger the angrier she got or anything. It was a fixed power level._
Well, I just found this out and it's kind of interesting. Apparently, her powers amplify her own natural strength, which basically means that if she trains and gains as Jennifer Walters, her strength as She-Hulk will increase _exponentially._
The 60-issue run of Sensational She-Hulk from John Byrne IS a great comic and WOULD make a great show!! However this does look like a sad woke modern adaptation. Apparently we can't just have complex entertaining characters who possess strength & confidence as well as human insecurities & struggles; they need to upset the establishment and save the world through being better than everyone. Oh well.
The incels are going wild with she hulk
@@otarthelazy63 Dude, it's the 'Wonder Woman' pilot all over again and you _know_ it eats.
Do you know who the writers were? And illustrators if you may?
She's basically just a tall Fiona from Shrek.
Sir you are an absolute master of your craft.
Hulk: “The transformation is triggered by anger and fear.”
Me: “You mean the two most prominent emotions people who like good stories feel when Marvel makes a new show or movie nowadays?”
Hulk: “Exactly”
All this will definetly hurt Real Woman. Gender-Swapping and making Everything Female
is so f-ing weird.
No problem with female Superheroes but Wokeness is just S-it.
@gas the bikes Damn bro
It's a pretty stupid and sexist line really. Women are not all angry and afraid.... I am rarely either.
@@ravenironwing Yep.
Funny how se-ist Woke often are.
At least those are emotional reactions. Star Wars fans have already crossed to the point of apathy.
One more thing: "What's more depressing than dating in your 30's?" Serious answer: Dating in your 40's, 50's, 60's, etc., which is something people who ask that question tend to find out as a result of being the kind of ungrateful person who would ask that question in the first place. But I get that's the kind of character they're making her out to be: shallow, insecure, and getting in the way of her own happiness. It's basically a female comedy trope at this point.
Its hilarious how they always try to appeal to minorities, but made a terrible job at it...they just told all women in their 30s who are still single that they should be depressed.
Hey bro, I didn't ask to be born. And the type of women I USED to be into all have green or purple hair now. I certainly didn't ask for THAT.
>Women
>Being funny
Old school She-Hulk started off a wallflower before becoming Queen Green. Maybe here she starts off a cynical and jaded spinster before embracing the She-Hulk persona? Considering Marvel's awful track record of late I don't have high hopes.
People are just in denial and upset about finally someone surpassed that tall zombie lady. Better be cradled to smoochie time by a smokin green hot chic than a tall pale lady probably smells like a corpse that turns out to be a giant flying rotten flesh. Besides, death by snu snu is the best way to go, right? 😉
"A Creative Prolapse..." Ok Drinker, never quite heard it explained like that.
Anyone who's ever had a prolapse knows how painful those are. Whew. 😖
working as a writer in disney marvel must be a soulless experience
Actually, She-Hulk is a well-fleshed-out character in the comics and a nice spin on the hulk concept. While Bruce is an intelligent, sensitive man with trauma who transforms into a Violent Savage, Jen is a shy, meek woman who transforms into a confident reliable Bombshell. While Bruce hates and is at odds with the hulk, Jen loves and becomes too dependent on She-hulk. In both cases, the main arc for these characters is to close the gap between their two inner persons, to become full beings.
Exactly. Now, I don’t like Drinker’s first half the video. Seems to be a faithful interpretation so far.
Love this comment
Yeah, but these guys over here think that She-Hulk is just another copycat of Hulk
@@shen5533 Right? He read She Hulk's description like she hasn't been a character that has been around for over 40 years at this point. Honestly I think these guys are just mad the MCU isn't gritty and like to pretend the MCU before Endgame was way more serious and dramatic (fyi: it wasn't. The only real drama in those 10 years were the Cap movies and Infinity War/Endgame
She HULK in the 90's hot hot hot 👍
I would unironically have more faith in Saul Goodman being my lawyer if I was a superhero over the MCU She-Hulk, her comic counterpart pre-2016 was an amazing character and drop-dead gorgeous before they turned her into Gigantor.
Facts, Saul is an amazing Lawyer
There are some instances in this world, that Saul might be the better choice.
...Gigantra
Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? The constitution says you do! And so do I.
Conscience gets expensive, doesn't it?
For a substantial fee, and I do mean substantial, you and your loved ones can vanish. Untraceable.
I want it in a money order and make it out to Ice Station Zebra Associates. That's my loan out. It's totally legit … it's done just for tax purposes. After that we can discuss Visa or Mastercard, but definitely not American Express, so don't even ask, all right?
You're a high-risk client. You're gonna need the deluxe service. It's gonna cost you.
If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it.
I never should have let my dojo membership run out.
Better safe than sorry. That's my motto.
As to your dead guy, occupational hazard. Drug dealer getting shot? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's been known to happen."
Don't drink and drive, but if you do, call me.
Saul Goodman is honestly a pretty capable lawyer
@0:53secs in and it's already a masterpiece..... you just earned a sub....
I grew up reading Marvel before Marhel was cool. It makes me sad to see them fall like this.... but for some reason I gotta eat what The Drinker is serving up! Thanks for the pristine package Dark Harvest arrived in Drinker, I appreciate it man.
After that shot of her holding the guy like a baby, I think this show is someone's wish fulfillment
Thank God you got to this... I just don't want to damn my soul by exposing myself to such evil.
Just wanted to say, regarding the age difference of cousins: I have friends whose oldest sibling is 30 years their senior, and I had another friend who was classmates with his niece who was older by a few months (they were both born in 1991, and he was an uncle the day he came out). Just saying that age and being related doesn't matter much.
It just felt like they wanted to have a girlboss, you know a female so perfect that there will be side characters just to praise her, then they looked at she Hulk on some random comic, and made the show ( without any research of course).
I was just thinking about how the writers/producers probably haven’t read or watched anything from the MCU lol
Old comic-Shullkie is actually pretty awesome. She’s fun, loves life and her powers, and used to be Marvels resident 4th-wall-breaker (her spads with the artist about her „costumes“ are legendary) before Deadpool. I still fondly remember the Marvel Heroes game designers running completely wild with her lawyer theme (with her skills named things like „Objection!“).
That would be VERY cool if it was an "Ace Attorney" reference, especially when Phoenix Wright is in the Capcom vs Marvel game.
I have to say when I saw the name of the show I was excited, it reminds me of the old school She hulk days.... I loved her when she was in the FF as well "hey what is big and green and has a staple in her navel" one of my favorite covers.
I love the idea, that the implicit message of the show is, the only way women can make it in this world, is if they become as manly as possible. Empowering isn't it?
"Strong woman" is just a man with a cunny?
Always has been
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Feminists.
You can say that with "Trans" women in females sports, but I digress.
@@ichisirus that's quite the opposite of digressing, "Ichi Sirus"
With the help of a large, muscular man.
This isn't meant to be a message about women in general, its just about a lawer who gets super strength, I guess a women can never get super strength super powers without someone like you saying it's trying to give that message
I will watch this movie only if she shouts "she-hulk smash" from the bedroom after a tinder date and the dude subsequently plummets into the lower level of her apartment.
A part of me really wishes that our assumptions are wrong and the show will turn out great, but with the constant disappointments from Marvel recently, it's really hard to get my hopes up. I'll still watch it on my friend's Disney Plus account probably.
Oh small thing about cousins, I have two first cousins who are like 23 years apart, so I guess Bruce Banner and whatever her name is being cousins isn't really that out there
Oh and my dad has an aunt who is younger than him so that's pretty wild
The best and most nuanced female characters are strong in their own way without being strong in EVERY way.
Once upon a time, screenwriters even remembered that.
if you mean in the physical sense that thats abit unfair to the screenwriters considering she was made decades ago and was also mainly comedic
Glad you called out Mark Ruffalo for being the epitome of "I support the current thing"
I always thought he was a good choice for Bruce Banner. He's one of the few people who hates himself as much as Bruce does.
Oh, you showed the screencap from The Nerd Crew show! Nice! :D
As long Disney bites the dust I'm happy with these productions
That’s not She-Hulk…
Dang. She’s such a fun character in the comics and cartoons…
My only real exposure to her was thanks to UMvC3. And even then I can tell you're right.
Yeah man that's Shrek's wife
how inaccurate is this then?
bruh people already shitting on the show before watching it.
@@dominic9585 The trailer was dog shit
She Hulk looks more like Shrek than the comic book character she's supposedly adapted from
Or Princess Fiona
Omg the Tyrion scene placement was pure gold.