Felder AD951 in Action ! Mega planer thicknesser
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- See my new New 20" 510mm !!! planner in action .. the monster Felder AD951 Testing with Yew ,Walnut and Silver birth , also done some jointing to show it in a realistic work flow. Any Questions please ask
Options fitted :
PowerDrive D1
EURO - COMFORT - planer guard 510 mm
5.5kW Motor
Silent-POWER spiral cutterblock
Felder AD951
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Absolutely brilliant bit of kit. With all the improvements and advantages it will make to you in preparing stock, you must notice some difference with the reduction in noise. Even watching there is hardly any noise. Such a quiet machine. It will serve you well I'm sure.
Never seen a planer pull through so quickly with good results before. Amazing machine.
It is a thing of a beauty. Isn’t it always a great feeling when you acquire a new tool.👍
Your right there.it very nice having a new tool .. that also makes big work flow difference :)
The blade covers behind the fence and over the table are *so* much better than the Hammer. I love that they fold so they don't take up a stupid amount of room.
I ALWAYS WONDER IF THIS JOB IS PROFITABLE! THE ALL EQUIPMENT IS SO EXPENSIVE, I REALLY ADMIRE YOUR WORK. WOODWORKING IS MY HOBBY AND ONLY I GIVE MONEY, I HOPE THAT I AM NOT ONLY ONE. KEEP GOING!
cheers John..
I've got the ad741 so great can't believe it's mine, lovely machine
Just seeing this video for the first time, nice machine. One thing you good do to check the flatness or the edge of the wood would be to run a line of crayon from end to end this would make it easier to see how much of planning needs to be done.
Congrats on that new acquisition! It was a joy to hear the pleasure in your voice as you put it thru its paces. I can't wait until i place an order for mine.
Its a big step up from the smaller machine, don't get me wrong the smaller planner can do the job but this kills it :)
Wow! What a great jointer planer.
Congrats on the machine. I just pulled the trigger on a A3 41 in the US. Now I have to wait 3 months...
Thats the killer when you make your mind up you what it right away Arrr
Just an idea when you have a long piece that isn't flat you could just plane the one end first then flip it around and do the other end to get it close to flat then run the whole piece through the jointer this will save you some time plus not having to lift the heavy piece all the time. USA viewer.
Kind of , it what ever happens there will be a max thickness , so if you plan one end first the calibrate that end will define the total thickness
Oh my goodness, you boys & your toys....I'm sure it was expensive so I;m very happy you are so pleased with it. Look forward to seeing lots of beautiful things.
Lots of beautiful things coming :)
£4,500 but it will soon pay for itself
Love it. I have received my quote from Felder. Same unit but with Digi drive and only because that's what they have in the showroom. Its your fault. But really I have been limited with my A3 31 for long enough I think. Cheers.
Great ! I think the Digi drive is a great option no idea if it’s an expensive one I didn’t get a quote for that. Mention my channel I could do with some support from felder one day if I ever get a Cnc saw lol
The digi drive can at least be that button to drop your table to convert to jointing. No more cranking that wheel for me.
I have me eye on that scissors adjustable roller table. Now, that's the one.
Its so useful! I use it for everything I need a second one now :(
If you will set the cut height and take a slow pass and then reset for .001" deeper cut you will burnish the wood and OMG look how smooth it looks and feels now or sometimes just do a same height second pass and watch the wood glow, amazing.
Vincent Rolfe thanks for the tip I will give that a try 👍
That poor timber lol. It was screaming going through there! Nice machine man. Definitely an aircraft carrier.
Beautiful bit of kit, I’ve definitely got machine envy 😍
To save having to avoid the blade guard protruding out, suggest you fold say one section down and then bring the fence across to match the width you need. I have the AD741 and the folding blade guard works well if you adjust the fence. I must admit I'm a little jealous but I don't have much timber wider than 16" (except slabs) so it's all good (the slabs are too wide again for even a 20" fence). Cheers and enjoy your new toy.
justcruisin109 I was going for a 741 but then this deal came up , it was hard spending the extra money but happy I did (well when i recover I will be ) Lol I do try move around the cutter so as not to dull any one part of I can ..
I expected I would not see any torn material, while on the first sample was a lot of them. For this class of machine and the spiral shaft strongly advertised by Felder, the effects are so-so.
I have seen with my own eyes how the Martin T45 and T54 planers works, also with spiral shafts. They made an indisputable mirror on every material, including the poplar nasty for processing. When I looked against the light at the processed surfaces I could see reflections of a perfectly flat surface. If I have ever NOT seen the need to use tools such as an angle gauge or a ruler, then this was the moment.
Its a bit better than my Titan planer/thicknesser. Congrats, good for you fella.
Thanks :) I do hear the Titan goes on for ever
Nah, it's a piece of crap lol Its all I could afford at the time, so I made a few mods and upgrades, and now, it works better than it should, or designed to. It's all good though.
if you ever upgrade the Charnwood was a great machine and a great price fo the build quality ! , only sold mine to get the 510mm ..
Cheers for the tip, Ill take a look.
I love my spiral cutter head on my A3-41
I know a lot of people don't like the pork chop style cutter guards on your typical American style machine but I would have to think that style would provide more coverage that this Euro style. At least in the operations shown on this video.
Mate, if you keep banging that digital height button with those staccato taps you will be calling Felder for a new switch. Ease up on that and just touch it. Have fun with that machine! good luck
Vincent Rolfe I guess it’s not a arcade machine :). Good tip
Put some colored lights on it and turn off the overhead lights and that's where your push button skill will shine. What big city are you close to with that accent? I'm in Chicago. good luck
Big ass machinery mate, looks a good upgrade 👍
Thank you
Nice video! I laughed when you mentioned the button. Having the A3-31 to wind it down to lower the bed is a task sometimes when your switching back and forth multiple times. But I feel you are right. There should be a HOME button that clears the bed so that you can flip the shroud over on the switch to jointer mode. Hopefully they come to that soon.
if you get the digi-drive option you can set a memory position for that
Regarding the criticism of the Felder/Hammer fences, what people don't seem to get is the flex makes no difference in that direction, it's still at 90, it flexes evenly.
Felder is the best!
You know it:)
If you switch the calibration from those big metric numbers to the king's numbers-inches the table will go down faster!
Lol... I work in mm for length and thickness , but still inch with the width not sure what haha
It's a beautiful machine. Incredible performance. About the only thing I'm not crazy about is how far you're stood off from the tables while jointing. It hurt my back just watching Some of the passes you made where you're bent over around 90 degrees and having to work your way around the guard, although to get the results you're getting from it I would probably figure out a way to adapt to it.
Simply way is to use the close edge more when working with small pieces , I just like to use the blade evenly
Manor Wood I figured that but when you’re doing wide boards, up to twenty inches, you don’t have that option, you have to use the whole width of the table and it looks like it would be incredibly awkward considering how contorted you are on the narrower ones. I’m not putting it down because I don’t know how they could build one that corrected the situation and the results it gets are incredible but the thought of jointing dozens or hundreds of board feet on boards up to 20” that far from the tables sounds painful.
Hi, very nice bit of kit!
A tip regarding jointing: it is best to do the thicknessing first and then plane the to-be-joined edges using the inside/outside method, that will cancel out even the slightest deviation of the fence (to square that is).
It goes like this: mark the top of the boards. Now plane the side of board one with the top side facing out, next plane edge of the board two that will glue to that that with the top side facing in.
And so one for alle sides of all boards. Makes for very tight seams.
For live edges it will work with two boards max, of course…
With a Martin jointer I mill a flat wide side first in one pass and then take it through with that side just milled against the fence to gain a true edge; and, I'm done jointing. What kind of jointer would need more passes; please explain
Basically this method works like the one used by craftsmen when joining boards by hand before glue up of a tabletop: clamp two boards together (back to back) and plane together. Any deviations on one boards' side are mirrored on the other, resulting in a perfect fit.
This principle also applies to jointing on a machine - if eg the fence is off by a degree or so, that is corrected by mirroring as described.
Hope this explains it.
Thanks for your reply. Limited experience and lack of official training in working wood due to my past career in commercial printing large projects. Appreciate your answer Bert Good luck
FYI Jay Bates explains the process in his latest video (Krenow-inspired … #1) at the 6 minute mark.
Thanks for the lead, Bert. Krenov's one book I bought years ago was part of the inspiration in getting into wood after those decades in printing. Similarity in wood and paper-board print and finishing and coatings.
I am spoilt because I skipped the steps between the 8-1/4" Bosch circular saw with a custom Meyer 60T with a hickory guide board in the late 70's with no jointer-planer (did visit Interbimal-Milano and Kolle factory-Esslingen) to my present day Martin and Felder CNC stuff. The Martins come within .001" of true with Leuco and Tersa so I was not aware of the significance of Mr. Bates and Doucette Wolfe. Now, I understand the what and why of the extra steps using those machines. The more we know about in this world the better. Thanks If we have a small format printing press with 12 ink rollers and want to print quality we will never match the larger German brand press with digital controls for inking with 23 rollers and more adjustments than a BMW; just never happen. In my old age I do not have the time to go to a Bennett School and start from the ground. I did graduate from RIT and saw their School of American Craftsman but that was 50 years ago and Vietnam was calling-damn draft board. good luck
What a monster machine, it's a man sized toy that!
nice channel
Thank you .
Looks good
Ok cool thank you
What do you think about the machine after 4years.
Are the tables still holding their settings?
Any problems with the electrical.
Have you faced any wide dense lumber with the insert head. Was it hard to feed by hands.
I love it , never had a problem and it 100% sqaure
That is an amazing combo tool. Sure cuts nice too. Is the blade sharpening a concern and the following setting of the cutters easy too?
Am I correct in assuming that the carbide cutters can be turned 90 degrees when they become dull, to give a fresh cutting surface? If so then you have 4 cutting surfaces per cutter before they need sharpening or replacing?
Yes. You have 4 cutting edges to work with. They are numbered so you can turn them to the next number to keep track of them.
not sure how long a full change over will take me maybe an hour or more , but I had been told I will only change these around 1 a year! and that someone panner endgrain chopping board event day. the other great thing in not more having to set the height of the blades after changing them with was very slow and a pain to do ..
Phil, there is no sharpening, only replacing.
Hi there. I have just come across your channel by chance so I spent my day off catching up on your videos. What amazing work, I really like your stuff! Your workshop too is amazing! Much better then my tiny 8’x5’ space (yes, I am very jealous!) I wish I had the space you have as I often find it difficult to make the things I would like to try. I’d be really happy if you’d like to look at what I do over on my channel. Also do you happen to use Facebook?
Steve Maker Thank you! I will checkout your channel for sure .. not sorted out Facebook I need to get on that 😳
Manor Wood cool as soon as you get Facebook sorted out let me know, I’d be more than happy to connect with you
His work is brilliant, very inspiring.
Just had one delivered ....only problem is it doesn't work !!!
👍🏻
Hi Andy, I think you made a good choice. One of the top brands around. What where the competitors? Did you also checked there Format line or was that way out of line?
I needed max width for a combo machine couldn’t really find anything else as good . The finish on this is so good I didn’t even bother looking into format . I guess that will offer a bit more but I am very happy and I did also catch a very good end of year deal on my ad951 :)
@@ManorWood I CAN UNDERSTAND! Nice!
Been a couple years - would you still recommend this machine? I have a Hammer A3 31 right now, and it flexes way more than I expected when processing heavy lumber, especially while planing. Looking at an upgrade to a 20” JP, and narrowed it down to the AD951 from Felder, or the Minimax FS52/SCM Nova FS520 (same machine, different markets). How do the tables on the Felder handle heavy lumber? (Typical 8-12/4, 8-10’ stock for big tables) My SCM rep thinks the castings are thicker on their product, but of course he’ll say that. Do you ever run a feeder? Any issues that required a service tech? Thanks!
I don’t know the other machine . I am very happy with the AD951. Rise fall motor needed changing but I did that £200. No other problems and Felder talked me over the motor swap out very helpful!!
Manor man, you just got my subscription, and congrats on that piece of equipment! Man, that cutter head seems to be only whispering! In your video production, did you do any attenuating or compressing of the volume?
Another question: do you have a technique for getting a spring joint on an edge? I am accustomed to using large, old jointers that often have a provision for tilting a table, and I use such features often. The Felder jointer/planer (USA parlance) that I have used, which was part of a 5 function combo, would not give me the joint I wanted on a 7’ table top glue-up, no matter how I monkeyed with the outfeed table height, nor with any of my other tricks.
Cheers amen and Welcome .! :) .. I have to say I haven't touch the outfield since Felder set the thing up and for me all jointing have been simple and work perfectly for me needs . . it a very VERY quiet machine I don't need to adjust volume for the thing running without wood going over it !
wonderful machine. It sounded very quiet, were you turning down the sound or is it that quiet?
it comes with a spiral head cutter, thats why its quiet.
Is that beast really quiet? Compared to some, or did you edit it? Looks like this will speed things up for you a hell of a lot.
Beautiful beast...
spiral cutters are so much more quiet than traditional flat blade cutters.
Yes , very quiet even pushing wood over if very quiet and what you can really see is there is very little resistance while removing even 4mm .. of very hard wood. :) happy days
Sweet as, man...
What a beautiful machine:)!Congratulations.Where are you based?Regards.Jacob
Skillwoodchippy Uk , Nr Ludlow
Why not use a hand plane on that super long hand cut log to first get it roughly flat instead of lugging the thing around all over the place?
you could use a hand plan , but I am testing my new machine so did use anything else
Gotcha. Makes sense. Great vid.
Thanks...
дааа.... Ты фетишист 😁
Lovely machine. What’s their price on that, if you don’t mind me asking? £6000 ? I’m light yea?
price changes , with spec and what deals Felder have on offer..
Can you get the double outfeed rubber rollers with this model for the planer?
I don't think so , they have a thickener that has that and maybe the Format ..but not sure.
Reference machine !!!
Need two people
Yep
Awesome machine! I am getting ready to purchase either this machine or the AD 941. Is your machine three phase? I am just wondering if single phase is an option for the 951.
Mine is three phase , not sure about single phase for AD951
Looks like they dropped the ball in designing the blade guard. You're constantly Overstretching because it's in the way. It looks uncomfortable. A spring-loaded swing style would work better.
this is european style blade guard. they prefer to be uncomfortable. i believe it does have an option for the american style blade guard
I've used both. Fact is that an American "pork chop" style spring-loaded guard sticks out into your gut just as much or more when you plane wide faces. The fold-down Euro guard on this Felder is a big improvement over the original non-folding Euros. They were really in the way.
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Hi how much is one please
Mo was on sale with Felder but full price is around 11k I think :( don't like to put the price I paid but it was a very good end of year deal
Can I just provide one note of safety. I know it is difficult what you are doing but when pushing that large bit through you are using your body weight. If that was to slip or jam for a moment and you weight pushed on through you could end up on top of the machine.
Anything could then happen such as you hand ending up under the guard or hitting your head on the machine.
Thanks for your concern. I am always balanced just incase videos don’t show that .. best
@@ManorWood
Go back and watch the video at 15:20 and you will see that you are pushing the wood with your weight. I can see that you are balancing with your left hand as well against the machine which would help.
I know it is difficult at times because that is one big heavy bit of wood and it requires effort.
With that effort you could end up on top of the machine with your pushing hand. I would say if it was a lesser machine than the felder it would be far more dangerous.
I had a close call myself once many years ago and end up on top of the machine with my hand very close to the blade.
A bit of wax on the table would help!
That does not sound like any planer or jointer I've ever heard. (@_@)
It’s so quiet , and cut very clean even Walnut with twisted grain
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this is like a lamborghini. very nice and luxurious but largely unnecessary. :)
Lol , nothing like a Lamborghini. I use it very day and it’s max 500mm is still a limiting factor for me . Not sure if there is a VW golf option with the same processing power and finish that’s also as good for basic A to B usage :)
6:17 holy SHT thats SOOO WRONG WHAT YOU DO
Can we be friends, ill be over a few times a week thats all :)
This like watching porn
porn. mark it nsfw!
I think no I know I can do the same job with my old grizzly jointer and planer that guard looks stupid to much adjusting sorry
I am making a bed at the moment the panels are 410 wide only reason I bought this was to work on 500 wide slab :)