The FAILURE of Sin Cara in WWE

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
  • On February 24th 2011, WWE held a press conference in Mexico City to announce their newest signing Sin Cara. And this signing was treated as a really big deal, doing press conferences to announce a wrestler signing was something that was unheard of from WWE at the time, so what made this signing such a big deal? Well, it’s because prior to him signing to WWE, Sin Cara was known as Mistico and he was a HUGE star in Mexico, and in lucha libre… so much so that a comic book series was made about him and his character, and WWE just had to capitalise on a star this big in Mexico. However if you know anything about Sin Cara and his run in the company, you’ll know that it didn’t meet expectations whatsoever. So let’s talk about Sin Cara fka Mistico’s failed run in the WWE.
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Komentáře • 445

  • @FergusAdderley
    @FergusAdderley Před 9 měsíci +698

    Tom, I genuinely admire your top-notch wrestling analyses, but I couldn't help but notice a factual inaccuracy in 'The failure of Sin Cara in WWE.' Contrary to what was mentioned, there was never a trampoline involved in Sin Cara's storyline. It's crucial to ensure accurate information, and though this detail may seem minor, it's essential for maintaining the integrity of your otherwise excellent work. Keep up the great content, but let's set the record straight - no trampoline in Sin Cara's tale

    • @adam_a923
      @adam_a923 Před 9 měsíci +133

      He did use a trampoline though...

    • @mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803
      @mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803 Před 9 měsíci +70

      This dude must be trolling hard...

    • @adam_a923
      @adam_a923 Před 9 měsíci +22

      @@mrdoctorprofessorpatrick803 That's what I was thinking but i wasn't 100% sure

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci

      @@adam_a923 ive seen this dork in Top10s comments before, hes definitely trolling. He must think he is being so funny when us wrestling fans just look down on him with pity...

    • @HaveARottenDay
      @HaveARottenDay Před 9 měsíci +56

      @@adam_a923Maybe he means that- The trampoline wasn’t in the STORY, in that WWE wanted the TV audience to not know it was there.
      That or he’s dumb lol

  • @kovulion7777
    @kovulion7777 Před 9 měsíci +2171

    There were reports of Sin Cara refusing to learn english and everyone he wrestles basically had to wrestle on the fly and just react and was really hard

    • @jesusleyva4386
      @jesusleyva4386 Před 9 měsíci +87

      yea I heard that too

    • @abreviews2559
      @abreviews2559 Před 8 měsíci +219

      I spoke to heath slater when I met him earlier this year at a concert (swell guy by the way) and he said he actually had no problem working with Sin Cara (the original) that he had better in ring chemistry with him than he did with Hunico (second sin cara).

    • @theghostreckon316
      @theghostreckon316 Před 8 měsíci +112

      As a sloppy worker as Sin Cara* is I do admire how he basically freestyles his matches which is pretty cool but he’s also holding his opponents hostage 😅

    • @MetanoiaOfferMastery
      @MetanoiaOfferMastery Před 8 měsíci +27

      I’ve met Sin Cara, he knows English.

    • @anthonyalvarez2037
      @anthonyalvarez2037 Před 8 měsíci +25

      This is true, I was Cara

  • @MovieEggman
    @MovieEggman Před 9 měsíci +1423

    WWE '12 had Sin Cara as the cover star in copies released Mexico, that's how far WWE wanted to push this guy.

    • @BlackPuma124
      @BlackPuma124 Před 9 měsíci +104

      Yeah, the other two covers were Orton and Rock. Sin Cara was also on the cover of the best of raw and SmackDown 2011 DVD

    • @ozguryilmarx
      @ozguryilmarx Před 8 měsíci +7

      @nonsensicaltopics 12-13 were so good fr.

    • @LARODEO15
      @LARODEO15 Před 8 měsíci +10

      BRUH, all these years I thought that was fan made lmaooo

    • @giovanni5819
      @giovanni5819 Před 8 měsíci +5

      Smack down vs raw 2008 was a blast

    • @french6013
      @french6013 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ozguryilmarxnah go back a couple years SvR is goated too. I liked the multistories they had before the singular Sheamus, HHH, Cass story. All of them goated too. But 12 was my first WWE game. And it was Amaaaazing. Sucks that time travel ain’t been invented yet😂wouldn’t mind busting up the Wii one more time, kick my younger self’s ass😂

  • @TheMC1102
    @TheMC1102 Před 9 měsíci +1173

    I think the biggest issue was that Mistico insisted to be put on the main roster right off the bat. Had he spent some time in the developmental territory, perhaps he would've adapted to WWE's style of wrestling and wouldn't be known as a botch machine to this day.

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +106

      I think that himself mistico He didn't want to adapt, which is a shame because to this day he is excellent in CMLL, we are lucky that Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar adapted well

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thats not good

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +26

      @@MohdAli-sh3df In fact, this was Hunico , mistico went to AAA and adopted the character mystezys, which was also something that started out much more disappointing in the end because of the booking

    • @RobertJW
      @RobertJW Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@bernardosantosribeiro6665They learned from Mistico's mistakes!

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@RobertJW What mistakes?

  • @kenterminateddq5311
    @kenterminateddq5311 Před 9 měsíci +731

    I remember WWE building Sin Cara as another Rey Mysterio.
    The beginning of the end (besides the botches) is Mistico didn't want to learn the American-style like Alberto did.

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci +23

      He was never going to achieve that

    • @InFiNiTeO7
      @InFiNiTeO7 Před 8 měsíci +16

      Between Sin Cara and Del Rio.
      At least Del Rio got far in WWE, can't say the same for Cara.

    • @vileink4733
      @vileink4733 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@InFiNiTeO7 Compare them now tho.

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Alberto didnt have to change tbh. he was always more like a brawler in Mexico due to his physique

    • @kenterminateddq5311
      @kenterminateddq5311 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@ernestogastelum9123 According to Alberto El Moron in shoot interviews, he said that he had to go to OVW to learn the American-style.
      WWE wanted MIstico (the original Sin Cara) to go to OVW too but Mistico refused.

  • @zeospark9715
    @zeospark9715 Před 9 měsíci +496

    I still remember the match where he injured his finger and called off the match and a pissed off Del Rio kept attacking him because of that. Mistio I heard was quite unpleasant backstage rude towards others and refused to do any training

    • @charlottestreet3301
      @charlottestreet3301 Před 9 měsíci +42

      If you injured your finger when in a wrestling match you should still continue the match

    • @riverds4925
      @riverds4925 Před 9 měsíci +26

      Gee i wonder why he got signed to a racist company, got signed to a company that hired him for his talent then proceeded to not use his wrestling style which has most of his talent

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci

      Didnt happen of the year award

    • @RAD1111able
      @RAD1111able Před 9 měsíci +69

      ​@@riverds4925You think performers are gonna learn a completely new style because of one guy?

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@georgewashingmachine6240except it did

  • @jakeilano6821
    @jakeilano6821 Před 9 měsíci +491

    Sin Cara was one of my favorite wrestlers at the time. I never knew that there were two of them and that Mistico (Sin Cara's original name) was released and Hunico took over the charcter Sin Cara.

    • @gamingcyborg88
      @gamingcyborg88 Před 8 měsíci

      Not a lot of people knew it's one of the many things that comes with following everywhere with a ring if you only follow the biggs you're only going to know what happens there

    • @XplicitTruth444
      @XplicitTruth444 Před 8 měsíci +22

      same i never had internet as a kid so i never knew about anything behind the scenes and thats what made wrestling so great for me but now i feel like its plagued and fans are always so angry and weird.. i feel it has something to do with having all this bts bs

    • @HelloAayush
      @HelloAayush Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@XplicitTruth444 same

  • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
    @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +345

    What most tarnished the mystic's career in WWE was his ego, he didn't want to adapt, but he forgot that only mil mascaras you win things by having a big ego in this business

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Bad take, his ego was what made him special

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +9

      @@georgewashingmachine6240 No, I did mil mascaras special, with mistico he just got screwed

    • @georgewashingmachine6240
      @georgewashingmachine6240 Před 9 měsíci

      @@bernardosantosribeiro6665 yawn

    • @Promislandzion
      @Promislandzion Před 8 měsíci +3

      I always liked Sincara.

    • @RodDeWitt
      @RodDeWitt Před 8 měsíci +6

      Los nombres personales no se traducen papito, Místico no es "mystic", se escribe igual en cualquier idioma, "mistico"

  • @noob4head
    @noob4head Před 8 měsíci +126

    Still sad how he failed so bad because back in the day Sin Care and Rey Mysterio were my absolute favorite tag team.

  • @fawfulmark2
    @fawfulmark2 Před 9 měsíci +178

    Sin Cara's final match being one where he tried to have the ref call it quits when he broke his finger.....right in front of Alberto "I one did a house show after getting into a knife fight" Del Rio is one that has gone down in infamy.

  • @TheUrobolos
    @TheUrobolos Před 8 měsíci +44

    Sin Cara may had been a memetic failure, but that disaster of a sign was one of the key elements that eventually convinced Vince to greenlight Triple H's new vision for NXT: a developement brand dedicated to help indie and foreign stars to adapt themselves to the WWE style and with even English if necessary, before joining the big brands. Basically a "We dont want another Sin Cara case".

  • @ChrisTahji
    @ChrisTahji Před 9 měsíci +192

    Gotta correct you when you said WWE had never given anyone special lighting. When Kane debuted, he had red lighting in his matches for a while

    • @VolatileGuy103
      @VolatileGuy103 Před 7 měsíci +4

      he was Kane.

    • @RyanKaufman
      @RyanKaufman Před 7 měsíci +4

      I'd argue that doesn't count because Glenn had been a few different characters. So when he debuted as Kane, he wasn't stepping foot in the WWE ring for the first time if that makes sense.

    • @ChrisTahji
      @ChrisTahji Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@RyanKaufman I'd counter argue The Fiend/Bray Wyatt who is in the same boat but got special lighting years after debuting

    • @MrManueldx
      @MrManueldx Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@VolatileGuy103 I mean, he's gotta be

  • @markula_4040
    @markula_4040 Před 8 měsíci +129

    Even if he never botched or got hurt one time, Sin Cara's WWE run was doomed to fail because he never bothered to learn English (at least that's what I heard, correct me if I'm wrong). How are going to connect with the audience if you can't speak their language? It's no coincidence that the 2 most successful Hispanic stars in Rey and Eddie spoke perfect English. Look how many other Hispanic wrestlers who are good in the ring but fail to reach their level of success in the states because they can't simply talk to the audience.

    • @rickyrodriguez5226
      @rickyrodriguez5226 Před 8 měsíci +29

      The same way UFc fans get behind people that don't speak English, letting the work speak for him and with a charismatic translator would do wonders.

    • @Promislandzion
      @Promislandzion Před 8 měsíci +1

      I liked him.

    • @ioriyagami347
      @ioriyagami347 Před 8 měsíci +3

      He couldve had a manager that couldve spoke for him...

    • @Rico401Prov
      @Rico401Prov Před 8 měsíci +17

      Even Alberto Del Rio had a way with connecting with the audience

    • @whovegas
      @whovegas Před 8 měsíci +12

      ​@rickyrodriguez5226 Idk man, I don't really watch much wrestling, but when I do, it's usually involving more trash talk and personality work than actual wrestling. Ufc tends to be the exact opposite, at least to a casual

  • @douglasdoyle8944
    @douglasdoyle8944 Před 9 měsíci +75

    Kane originally wrestled with a red light on but it wasn’t for very long but technically had his own themed lighting before sin cara

  • @rickyeligio1674
    @rickyeligio1674 Před 9 měsíci +129

    Mystico can be a dick, back in September me and a co worker went to a mexican wrestling show here in Tijuana, there was a line for people to take pictures with mystico and when my co worker went up to take a picture with him mystico slightly backed off and even asked him politely if he could sign one of his masks mystico said “I don’t sign anything unless if you buy one of the masks they are selling upfront” my friend looked sad afterwards

    • @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
      @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Dang. I've never been to a wrestling signing before however I've seen some fans get their merch signed.I wonder if it was a contract thing.

    • @bogar1330
      @bogar1330 Před 8 měsíci

      Probably, I watched him a couple days ago, he stayed for like another 30 minutes on the ring taking pics with everybody. ​@@gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227

    • @elizabeth-lmhxmx
      @elizabeth-lmhxmx Před 6 měsíci +3

      Wow really? I went to see him in those Tijuana shows too a good 7 years ago in middle school and he was pretty nice, I think he signed my poster(?) but he was kinda picky, that really sucks for your friend!

    • @anthonylopez4386
      @anthonylopez4386 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ssounds like a you problem

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 Před 5 měsíci +8

      it may be in his contract or his trying to avoid people selling the signed merchandise

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před 9 měsíci +54

    Actually Kane had red lighting in his debut matches

  • @bobby_the_ps2
    @bobby_the_ps2 Před 9 měsíci +31

    Personally I love Hunico's run of the character as Sin Cara 2. Lucha Dragons are one of the most fun tags.

  • @mikeblue83ify
    @mikeblue83ify Před 8 měsíci +20

    He broke his finger and Refused to wrestle.
    Didn’t want to learn English and would ignore talent
    Would no sell and change spots
    And got kicked out of the locker room

    • @neverangel24officialytchan87
      @neverangel24officialytchan87 Před 8 měsíci

      What’s so “talented” about WWE? 😂

    • @Someone52671
      @Someone52671 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@neverangel24officialytchan87true. Try enrolling then an extra talented chap like you might be on the main roaster in a month(unless you think wwe might be too lowly for your divine heights)

    • @neverangel24officialytchan87
      @neverangel24officialytchan87 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Someone52671 In English?

    • @poultry-lover6665
      @poultry-lover6665 Před 4 měsíci

      @@neverangel24officialytchan87tf u mean bro? U realize all the badass back flips and carrying the athletes are super cool

    • @neverangel24officialytchan87
      @neverangel24officialytchan87 Před 4 měsíci

      @@poultry-lover6665 Oh, I’m sorry! I thought you WWE fans hated masked wrestlers, especially luchadors and luchadoras. 🙄

  • @tterminatormc4705
    @tterminatormc4705 Před 7 měsíci +19

    To be honest I loved sin cara as a kid so much so I was so sad he wasn’t the next big thing because he was just cool

  • @Alan-oj3ps
    @Alan-oj3ps Před 8 měsíci +146

    2011 was a complete mind f*** for me and the WWE. I really felt like guys like Christian, Mark, Truth were finally going to be main eventers for the next few years. Plus we had Karma in the women's division. And I really thought Sin Cara was going to be next major cruiser weight since Rey. All of that went down the toilet. And unfortunately 2011 was the last year I watched WWE full time since 1998.
    Not to mention my Bucs were coming off a 10-6 record the previous year. Then in 2011 they start 4-2 but end up losing the final 10 games leading to the head coach getting fired.
    Plus on my 25th birthday that year I spent the day with the girl of my dreams. However she ended up marrying someone else after she was done with me. Thank you 2011. You were my ultimate fake out.

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Před 8 měsíci +9

      Just wait, there's more!

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Před 8 měsíci +14

      It's funny how some year, in hindsight, have a running plot you just keep falling for. It's almost like it's the catalyst for growth lol

    • @CulEdz
      @CulEdz Před 8 měsíci +8

      2011 also had CM Punk’s hottest run. Christian was in the world title scene with that incredible feud with Randy Orton. It wasn’t all too bad.

    • @joshuaottley7902
      @joshuaottley7902 Před 8 měsíci +20

      The amount of swerves in those stories, I thought your life was booked by Vince Russo.

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Před 8 měsíci +4

      Let's see, my 2011 year, age 28..
      Had my oldest son, still struggled w/ addiction issues but was close to pushing them demons down for good just didn't know it yet, and me n the lady (w lil man) moved from Toledo Ohio to Indianapolis for a year before moving again to st louis

  • @tsurumichan
    @tsurumichan Před 8 měsíci +27

    The changing of lights for Sin Cara was to assist him to see the elements/help him pull off his extravagance. ie...he claimed he hit his botches due to the extra lighting. Considerable, the production for everything in the USA is different from the rest of the world, music, theatre, etc.

  • @HeHateMe1
    @HeHateMe1 Před 9 měsíci +65

    Sin Cara, Sin Cara
    Friendly neighborhood Sin Cara
    Wears a mask only fights
    Underneath stupid lights
    LOOK OUT Here comes the Sin Cara
    Can he botch? Listen jerk
    His hurricanrana will never work
    Jumps the ropes, that was nice
    This match was recorded twice
    LOOK OUT Here comes the Sin Cara
    In the heat of the night
    He comes out of the blue
    And with all of his might
    Points his finger at YOOOOOOUUUU
    Sin Cara, Sin Cara
    Famous Luchador Sin Cara
    He was blue, now he's red
    Dropping everybody on their head
    Look out, here comes Sin Cara
    Can he roid? Can't say yet
    Let's hope he doesn't get a random test
    Does a flip: Awesome bro!
    He got his last name from Mysterio
    Look out, here comes Sin Cara
    In the heat of the night
    He comes out of the blue
    And with all of his might
    Points his finger at YOOOOOOUUUU
    All the bad dudes, better watch your back
    Because Sin Cara is on your track
    He can't spin a web or land a move
    But he gets all the ladies cause he's super smooth
    Here he comes, he can fly
    Falling at you from the sky
    Will he hit? Probably not
    But he can always re-tape the spot
    Look out, here comes Sin Cara

    • @Top10Wrestling
      @Top10Wrestling  Před 9 měsíci +13

      Ok

    • @DaileyShorts
      @DaileyShorts Před 8 měsíci +10

      Maybe a bit too much time on your hands kiddo

    • @maducrutz9384
      @maducrutz9384 Před 8 měsíci +7

      I liked it 👍

    • @HeHateMe1
      @HeHateMe1 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@DaileyShorts yeah the whole 5 seconds to copy and paste song lyrics

    • @HeHateMe1
      @HeHateMe1 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @maducrutz9384 check out Shining Wizado, he has this and various other wrestling songs, as well as the Kevin Steen/El Generico Antichrist trilogy under Six Seconds Magic

  • @mercmenace9545
    @mercmenace9545 Před 9 měsíci +20

    They were hoping and wanting him to be the next Rey Mysterio

  • @muhammadrouhan6121
    @muhammadrouhan6121 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Man, sin cara had such great potential. He could have been portrayed as an high flying arch nemesis to mysterio and maybe even be a great heel.

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před 9 měsíci +26

    He's one of my favorite wrestlers from the attire alone and awesome ring style when not butch

  • @Miltypooh2001
    @Miltypooh2001 Před 8 měsíci +28

    I remember me and my little brother watched wwe around 2011 to 2012 we were hyped everytime sin cara had a match because well, his entrance/ theme were great and his moveset was very high fly'ish I think the highest points of his time in wwe was when he had a feud against the sin cara imposter and when he teamed up with kalisto to form the lucha dragons, but after they were separated, he became a jobber.

  • @upthereds1892
    @upthereds1892 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I liked sin cara but I was also a literally a child lol

  • @UNSAMU3L
    @UNSAMU3L Před 9 měsíci +24

    I miss Sin Cara tbh he was one of my favs at the time😭

  • @mindofball19
    @mindofball19 Před 8 měsíci +10

    i think the biggest mystery is how he lasted in the WWE for like a whole decade

    • @IloveHotlineMiami
      @IloveHotlineMiami Před 3 měsíci

      This may be five months late, but I don't think the first Sin Cara was in the WWE as long as the second one. Also, he had some crazy merch sales.

  • @Goji73
    @Goji73 Před 9 měsíci +9

    2:26
    Kane was given this treatment early into his debut run. Most notably during his match with Mankind at Survivor Series 1997 had the entire match in red and black lighting

  • @samdath3439
    @samdath3439 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Wwe have a hard time finding another Rey mysterio.

    • @mrgonzale0978
      @mrgonzale0978 Před 9 měsíci

      They still have a hard time. Even with Dominik being a fan favorite.

    • @canadianchaos1517
      @canadianchaos1517 Před 9 měsíci +7

      The problem is there isnt going to be another Rey Mysterio. He’s one of a kind, and no one can truly do the same as Rey Mysterio did in his career.

    • @1KQ_
      @1KQ_ Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@mrgonzale0978 no sorry, dragon Lee is well on his way to being the next Rey.

    • @mrgonzale0978
      @mrgonzale0978 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@1KQ_ I have to agree. Im still a fan of dragon hopefully WWE don’t screw this up. Rey misterio is one of a kind for Latinos everywhere. Is like the Mount Rushmore of Latin/hispanic wrestling first el santo then mil mascaras and blue demon and I will put misterio instead of any member of the Guerrero family or HOF Carlos colon.

  • @OfficialRukahs
    @OfficialRukahs Před 8 měsíci +9

    Please, the story of the 2nd Sin Cara is so interesting. Something about back in Mexico, Mistico (OG Sin Cara) took the name from Hunico, and then poetry wrote itself when Hunico took the Sin Cara name from Luis (OG Sin Cara)

  • @kgaming9455
    @kgaming9455 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I bought a Sin Cara mask as a kid I thought he was the coolest thing as a kid the look, the gymnastics, all of it I was sold man 😂

    • @poovanna4284
      @poovanna4284 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes when I first saw him 10 year's old . First the hype they made i thought he is gonna be then next big thing

  • @Stumpers24
    @Stumpers24 Před 9 měsíci +14

    I thought Hunico or however you spell it, was a better Sin Cara than mistico.

    • @edmartinez925
      @edmartinez925 Před 5 měsíci

      And he technically got even with Mistico. Hunico originally used that name "Mistico" and Mistico (or his real name Luis Urive) took that name from him.

  • @AgentExtreme007
    @AgentExtreme007 Před 9 měsíci +36

    Actually Kane had red light for his first few matches like vs mankind

  • @IamLegendaryguy1998
    @IamLegendaryguy1998 Před 9 měsíci +11

    you should make a video about the failure of del Rio

  • @Champ1988
    @Champ1988 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Also, he apparently didn't speak English and even the smallest miscommunications in the ring can be disastrous. Not to mention, it took promos out of his arsenal.

  • @JesusLopez-cy7lo
    @JesusLopez-cy7lo Před 7 měsíci +6

    American wrestling moves are the most basic in the world. So to hear you guys critisize things you guys cant even do is funny.

    • @MesiasMark
      @MesiasMark Před 7 měsíci +1

      I was watching CMLL and it is 100% better than WWE

    • @devonfarrar6817
      @devonfarrar6817 Před 5 měsíci

      I mean they’ve literally had guys that could do it lmao it’s just honestly two different types of wrestling. Acting like yall could do every single move others do is laughable. Quit acting high and mighty over scripted wrestling moves.😂

  • @JacksonLane02
    @JacksonLane02 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Feel like it went downhill when the moment the botches become more frequent which were so bad but so good. HBK vs Hulk Hogan Summerslam 2005 and Sin Cara in WWE are the godfathers of Botchamania.

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +9

      I think Shawn did that because he didn't agree with Hulk Hogan wanting to win the match or something like that

    • @tylerdurden788
      @tylerdurden788 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@bernardosantosribeiro6665 yup the kings of that doesn't work for me. Never been a michaels fan but i get this one.

    • @Dartingleopard
      @Dartingleopard Před 9 měsíci +4

      HBK v Hulk Hogan was on purpose, Shawn Michaels was ticked off about how Hulk Hogan politicked to change the planned feud to just a single match that he won instead of having them trade wins for a few shows.

    • @bernardosantosribeiro6665
      @bernardosantosribeiro6665 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@tylerdurden788 Post-Christianity Michaels is one of the best people in wrestling ironically

  • @warriorjgamer
    @warriorjgamer Před 9 měsíci +8

    Sin Cara today would have been a good fit in NXT and imagine him in a tag team with dragon lee or even axiom?

  • @thegunslinger8806
    @thegunslinger8806 Před 8 měsíci +25

    Mistico's WWE run was definetly what killed any hope of him ever having a career I'm the states, he just gained such a bad reputation from it that nobody wanted to hire the guy, not even AEW would touch Caristico these days but again it's not totally his fault, he wanted to be put in there with the main roster instead of going to FCW and learning the more fundamentals based style of wwe. Ironically the guy who picked up his gimmick should have probably been the real Sin Cara all along and should have gotten the push over him.

    • @Flame-lv4er
      @Flame-lv4er Před 7 měsíci

      Lol i agree

    • @ernestogastelum9123
      @ernestogastelum9123 Před 5 měsíci +1

      your take didnt age well since he has wrestled in AEW 3 times and the fans love him. also he hasnt used the name Caristico for years now since hes back with the name Mistico

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 Před 9 měsíci +5

    When the imposter Sin Cara ended up becoming the real one in the end it's kind of funny. It's like after Brian Lee played the imposter Undertaker he went on to become the character going forward. Ironically though his replacement had a much better run in the Lucha Dragon's.

  • @Akane-Jinn
    @Akane-Jinn Před 9 měsíci +6

    I always remembered loving Sin Cara I was always so sad he never really went anywhere

  • @DreFromMaine8472
    @DreFromMaine8472 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I always preferred the Hunico version of Sin Cara. He was a lot better in the ring, plus he could speak English. I remember him talking backstage in an interview and Andrade coming in to challenge him and Hunico accepting. But he lost every match against Andrade, and then later on got released. Before that he was part of the Lucha Dragons with Kalisto and that was cool, I liked both of them. But Kalisto got released as well, I wonder what happened to him. The bottom line is that the original Mistico Sin Cara wouldn’t adapt to the WWE style, plus he wouldn’t learn English, and that’s why they replaced him. I still like Hunico as Sin Cara to this day, he had a good theme song as well!

  • @leonshoyinka4540
    @leonshoyinka4540 Před 9 měsíci +10

    They wouldn't allow him to keep his original style. Mistico is great but sin cara was a shell of his former self.

    • @jesusleyva4386
      @jesusleyva4386 Před 9 měsíci +10

      He couldn't adapt. That's the difference between him and Rey. Rey was able to slow down his style to get great matches

    • @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
      @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@jesusleyva4386 that explains why rey isn't as fast or agile like he was in wcw or in Japan wrestling. Makes sense buuuut I prefer my luchadors fast. They are alot more fun to watch when they go all out

    • @jesusleyva4386
      @jesusleyva4386 Před 8 měsíci

      @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 Rey has had so many knee surgeries, it's amazing he's still able to perform as well as he can

    • @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227
      @gokuwrightattorneyatlaw5227 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jesusleyva4386 that is also true

  • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
    @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před 9 měsíci +8

    Hunico Counld of been a better Sin Cara or maybe he was, because he could actually talk

    • @typicallytalya
      @typicallytalya Před 8 měsíci +2

      They SHOUDLVE kept him to do so fr instead of dropping the character all together

  • @Zxlxya
    @Zxlxya Před 9 měsíci +5

    His first two botches doomed him

  • @OctoberRust02
    @OctoberRust02 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I can't help but feel that Sin Cara's failure in WWE was intentional. I feel that Mistico didn't even really like working for WWE, so he sabotaged himself so he could go back to working in Mexico.

    • @Raymund38TVM
      @Raymund38TVM Před 2 měsíci

      No bro, Sin Cara wants to work from the WWE bro even you're Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde. WWE is the biggest Wrestling Promotion you can earned Millions of Dollars to the WWE in just only a single matches performance. I think the only problem of Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde is he's injuries before he became a WWE wrestlers, like Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde said he is having a Major Back Bone Injury last 2007 during Mistico Ring Name and he can recovered 2008 due to a surgery. Then that injury cameback again and again when he performed a hard acrobatic stands in WWE. The last injury of Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde is he's broken fingers due to not right land properly. Usually it's happen to all Wrestler a broken bones that is normal to all Wrestlers.

  • @truenoong
    @truenoong Před 7 měsíci +1

    With Mysterio being my favorite wrestler, I loved Sin Cara when I was a kid. His whole character and the blue and yellow thing was such a cool concept. Unfortunate to know all of this now as an adult.

  • @silverbane266
    @silverbane266 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I didn't know about this. I loved Sin Cara at that time cause he was such a different face in terms of how he interact with people

  • @WalkBesideMe
    @WalkBesideMe Před 4 měsíci +1

    Mistico is still one of the best even now, still a massive star in CMLL and does the occasional AEW and NJPW appearance. Could've at least pointed that out

  • @michaelcgreywolf2976
    @michaelcgreywolf2976 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Man I can't believe it's almost been 10 years since he left wwe, man how time flys

  • @sx2ap
    @sx2ap Před 8 měsíci +2

    Kane had his own themed lighting for his matches when he first came to WWE. He wrestled in red lights for a little while before WWE got rid of it.

  • @claytonisgaming5170
    @claytonisgaming5170 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I was kid when he was in the company I loved his design and moves. I don’t even remember his mess ups cause I loved the design.

  • @PrinceLobo-es8kl
    @PrinceLobo-es8kl Před 4 měsíci +1

    the biggest reason for his boches was that mask had bad visibility and dark lightning doesnt help too,

    • @RevengerPhoenix
      @RevengerPhoenix Před 2 měsíci

      Also, a lot of wrestlers didn’t know how to take his moves. His matches with Sheamus and Christian are painful to watch, because they don’t understand the lucha style. They worked well with Rey, because Rey Americanized his arsenal and they worked a million times with him. Mistico was more pure lucha. But some wrestlers either were super talented to grasp lucha quick or trained in lucha. His matches with Cesaro were top notch and perfect. Heck, he even hit a flawless La Mística on TED DIBIASE OF ALL PEOPLE!
      I do believe if he was positioned to only wrestle guys who understood his style from the beginning, he would’ve done better. But oh well.

  • @daviskaedrick4830
    @daviskaedrick4830 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I was just about to say I could’ve sworn he was in a team with Kalisto 😅

  • @JDHD99
    @JDHD99 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Cara could barely see through the mask, he could speak English, he’s back in the AEW as Mystico and has had an interview where I’m pretty sure he’s speaking fluent english.

    • @StockImagesVoid
      @StockImagesVoid Před 6 měsíci +1

      I guess we can all now put that the allegations WWE made agaisnt him are fake. Shocking, coming from a human trafficking company.

    • @dexterwilliams2520
      @dexterwilliams2520 Před 3 měsíci

      You can have "Cara could barely see through the mask", but 10 years ago he not only didn’t speak English but outright refused to learn it. He was a prima donna who thought being Hulk Hogan popular in Mexico meant he was entitled to the Hulk Hogan treatment wherever he went. His disastrous WWE run that tarnished his reputation north of the Rio Grande humbled him, and it was being humbled that allowed him to grow into the pretty good Mistico you see in AEW a decade later.

  • @Izen0
    @Izen0 Před 7 měsíci +3

    wtf is boching imagine using this word knowing many viewers arent natives

  • @fs_nokia7768
    @fs_nokia7768 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Mistico career in WWE could not be the best, but in méxico, CMLL is one of the bests. I remember his fight style in the air was pretty cool

  • @sse12345
    @sse12345 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Sin cara got that potential to become one of the big names if only he learn how to speak English. The fact that wwe tried to push him says it all. Remember how excited i am with ny brother whenever i hear his name mentioned and how I always pick him in WWE 2k game

  • @camm2xx
    @camm2xx Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hunico's Sin Cara was far better. I hope one day he'll return hed fit in this LWO storyline perfectly. Mistico didnt want to adapt the to the US style of wrestling neither did he want to speak english. I feel the lightning and his mask played alot into why he botched alot tho.

  • @Comfortablyhighx
    @Comfortablyhighx Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sin cara was the wrestler that could’ve been 😞 will always be one of my favorites

  • @Wildberryjamband
    @Wildberryjamband Před měsícem

    I was 9 years old in 1993, and I drew pictures of myself as a wrestler and the mask and tights designs are remarkably similar ! Blue or red with the gold lightening pattern. I was aware of Ultimate Warrior and Great Muta at the time. It was a funny surprise to see the Sin Cara character make his debut haha ! IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME ! Anyways, the second Sin Cara had solid matches with Tyson Kidd and Daniel Bryan on Smackdown, and then had some of his longer matches against Big E and Braun Strowman along the way, and after a long break, Sin Cara returned for a three week set with Andrade in the end of 2019 and that was the end of the character before Covid. They were never able to truly give him a push due to the botched entrances and finishes, and breaking his knee at the 2011 Survivor Series. I thought they might present him as some sort of mystical Ultimate Warrior / Undertaker with surprise entrances and stuff but he never climbed into a main position for an IC title feud against Wade Barrett or Cody Rhodes.

  • @thedreamsoldierful
    @thedreamsoldierful Před 4 měsíci +1

    Its sad. I used to stay up till 2am to watch mistico on telemundo. One of the best luchadors ive ever seen, second only to rey mysterio. Wwe should know how to handle mexican wrestlers by now

  • @kadharefinley224
    @kadharefinley224 Před 9 měsíci +12

    Real Sin Cara vs Fake Sin Cara was a decent feud imo

    • @Top10Wrestling
      @Top10Wrestling  Před 9 měsíci +5

      Agreed! It was something different and I loved it as a kid 😂

    • @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD
      @XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Před 9 měsíci +1

      You mean Sin Cara Blue vs Sin Cara Black

    • @chandlerh2408
      @chandlerh2408 Před 9 měsíci

      It was so good, The best imposter storyline by far.

    • @yourmum955
      @yourmum955 Před 8 měsíci

      Especially as it had genuine history from before WWE because OG Sin Cara took the Mistico name from Hunico Sin Cara

  • @wesleypatterson2284
    @wesleypatterson2284 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man, I cant believe I never noticed SIn Cara sometimes had a tattoo and sometimes didnt

  • @HisHope333
    @HisHope333 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Do one for Evan Borne!

  • @calebmaybin6896
    @calebmaybin6896 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Would love to see a video on how Sami Callihan's botched baseball bat to Eddie Edwards' face saved TNA/IMPACT as their luck turned around after that.

  • @Jidds
    @Jidds Před 6 měsíci +1

    He came into WWE close to when I stopped watching but I never felt like he belonged he felt out of place for some reason. His entrance was cool and he had pretty entertaining moments but like you mentioned I do remember quite a few goofs

  • @BuffedJoker
    @BuffedJoker Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sometimes I don't understand why wwe hires a wrestlers and then they don't know what to do with them

  • @beastmangaming3424
    @beastmangaming3424 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love him or hate him I don't care sin cara aka mistico will always be my favorite luchadore

  • @PoPMichalpl9
    @PoPMichalpl9 Před 21 dnem

    He was my favorite character back in primary school days

  • @realmr-hyde
    @realmr-hyde Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember being like "how does he fucking jump like that into the ring?!?" And then I saw the trampoline and I was so disappointed.

  • @ponglenis9273
    @ponglenis9273 Před 8 měsíci

    „Bro do you even botch“
    Funniest meme back in those days

  • @SamuraixShyanna
    @SamuraixShyanna Před měsícem

    As a WWE girl, he was one of my favorite wrestlers him, cena, rey, and kalisto all were. It really hurt me when he didn’t really continue with WWE (I was 6 when he started out) lol knowing what we know now. I’m glad he was one of my celebrity crushes 😅

  • @shaneoleary9919
    @shaneoleary9919 Před 8 měsíci +4

    He was amazing wrestler

  • @eduardomorales8443
    @eduardomorales8443 Před 4 měsíci

    I never knew Sin Cara was Mistico till years later after his debut. I really loved watching him when he was Mistico. Very telented individual

  • @MitchellBay
    @MitchellBay Před 8 měsíci +1

    the trampoline was the craziest shit about him to me

  • @darius3261
    @darius3261 Před 7 měsíci

    I can’t believe i forgot about Sin Cara. He used to be my favorite. I even had some knockoff mask of him I got from the pulga.

  • @LunaticKD1991
    @LunaticKD1991 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Sin Cara was a joke.
    The dudes portraying him were always getting hurt.

  • @bryce5134
    @bryce5134 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the great visuals to go with the video!

  • @terrordarky
    @terrordarky Před 8 měsíci +6

    a shame. i love luchadores and i'd love to see more of them in wwe.

  • @phillipjames7142
    @phillipjames7142 Před 4 měsíci

    "He landed on his head during his debut"
    *looks it up on the same platform*
    Oh, it's bullshit. Shocker.

  • @adden2242
    @adden2242 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The New Sin Cara is AXIOM LOL 😁😅😅

  • @yellowbartheworstreviewson4810

    My son has a Scooby-Doo movie with WWE characters in it ...and I thought sin Cara was a made-up character for the movie😂😂

  • @BobbyAlejandro21
    @BobbyAlejandro21 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Communication is key when you’re in the ring. His lack of it caused most of his botches throughout his career

  • @Holiidayyyyy
    @Holiidayyyyy Před 4 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite wrestlers

  • @lysandersantos8222
    @lysandersantos8222 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The moves the sin Cara did was hard I definitely understand the botches

  • @PabloEscobar-yd8yc
    @PabloEscobar-yd8yc Před 9 měsíci

    Yea,I remember before this guy even had a match as a kid,there were so many ads playing of this guy while wwe was on break,and he didn’t even set foot in the ring either

  • @whyfuckinchannel
    @whyfuckinchannel Před 8 měsíci +2

    Rey Mysterio from Wish.

  • @Clipperbossman
    @Clipperbossman Před 8 měsíci +1

    Curtis axel and sin cara were wasted potentials

  • @FingerBreakerWu
    @FingerBreakerWu Před 8 měsíci

    "They never had a wrestler who had came in and had their own themed lighting for every match"
    Kane says hi.

  • @thegoat2874
    @thegoat2874 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I miss when wwe would sign people they would do those vignettes

  • @johnnydropkicks
    @johnnydropkicks Před 9 měsíci +1

    How do you rupture a “tendor?” 5:35

  • @dr.loomis4221
    @dr.loomis4221 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I think the biggest problem was that Místico insisted to be put on the main roster right off the bat. If he spent some time in the developmental territory, perhaps he would've adapted to WWE's style of wrestling and wouldn't be known as a botch machine to this day.

  • @Miniduck9013
    @Miniduck9013 Před 7 měsíci

    The one with the bird tattoo was quite good in nxt I wish he would’ve got a push just to see what he could do on the main roster

  • @bengrauartwork
    @bengrauartwork Před 8 měsíci

    what an oddysey of botches and pain. I remember hearing a rumor on Mexican masked lucha where a guy calling himself mightymouse wen around tearing up every new toon luchador mask he came accross. My fave masked luchador is Blue Demon sr.

  • @xjvghxst535
    @xjvghxst535 Před 8 měsíci

    Still remember as a kid before his debut when they were hyping him up

  • @Max-c2w
    @Max-c2w Před 5 měsíci

    Please do KALISTO!!!! Haven't seen him for a while....

  • @AngelRasmus3
    @AngelRasmus3 Před 8 měsíci

    I'm sorry I love your videos but I legit laughed at tendor. Pretty sure you meant tendon XD