Awesome flight!!!!! Ward Carroll would be happy to watch this F14 video… Ward Carroll was a F14 RIO and has a CZcams channel. Thanks Jon for sharing you F14 flight.
Scott and I took her back out today to get the full span flaps dialed in. I burned through four packs before finally getting it to a point where it would fly correctly. Now we're good to go! Video of the T&G flights coming soon. :)
Nice man! I havent had the balls yet to attempt a flat spin with mine. I felt like it would be too crazy to get out of, but you proved me wrong. I did the same goof with opposite spoiler to elevon. The whole flight had me thinking that the plane was acting weird for some reason until i saw what it was on the ground. Haha. I havent flown mine for a couple months though cause i havent narrowed down the left wing sudden drop when i do a negative g pushover. Even when i have alot of speed the left wing will always shoot towards the belly. Flys great all the rest of the time. Its my third favorite twin 80.
The thing about flat spins in EDFs is that unless they're so underpowered that they can barely get off the ground, you're unlikely to run into any issue with getting out of the spin. A spin isn't necessarily unrecoverable in radio control - but it is potentially deadly in full scale like the F-14's generally unrecoverable flat spin. There's no issue with engine flameout on EDFs so the power is there instantly when I ask for it. If you're ever concerned but still want to try it, get up to 400 ft and do one spin, then attempt to throttle out. I doubt you'll have any issues!
@@TwoBrosRC sweet. I will give it a try this saturday weekend when its supposedly to be almost 50 degrees. Thrust shouldnt be a problem with 12b fans and het 1860kv motors. Hopefully my buddy dave from model jet juggernaut can video it. Hes the only one that uploads to youtube. The rest of us are epically too lazy.haha
I happened to have headphones on while I watched this video. It was cool listening to the full scale plane fly over in stereo. I could also tell where you were standing. What kind of camera did you use?
Hi Jon. As always, very cool. My RC flying unfortunately doesn’t have a runway for this type of plane. I’d like to ask you two questions unrelated to this particular video. I have an ix12 and a number of planes and Helis. 1) The latest update to the Airware software now causes my ix12 to produce an audio alert (discovered during bench testing) “Battery not charged for flying”. Is this alarm somehow aware of being airborne versus being on the ground? 2) There are frame rate settings located both in “Model Setup” and in “Forward Programming”. Why are frame rate settings located in both the transmitter and the receiver? What if they’re mismatched? There are a lot of undocumented features in my Spektrum ix12. I would really appreciate any insight you may have. Thx. Wolfgang
Thanks Wolfgang! The "not charged for flying" alert is found in your Smart Battery telemetry menu. You can disable it from there. It should only go off if a Smart pack is connected that isn't fully charged to 4.1+ volts. Frame rate settings in the transmitter determine how fast frames are transmitted. 11ms is faster than 22ms in your transmitter, but reduces the amount of channels that you can transmit. The receiver frame rate in Forward Programming determines how fast servos operate, IIRC. There's no issue with mismatching unless you're using pure analog servos which won't work well, or at all, with 11ms.
Thanks Jon, great information. One minor clarification, regarding the battery not charged for flying alert. I like the idea of that alarm. At some point however, a battery in flight will cross the 4.1 volt threshold. Would that not cause this alarm to trigger during flight?
@@wolfgangreiner744 Sorry about taking a bit of time to get back with you. YT caught you in the spam filter again. The "not charged for flying" warning only pops up when you first turn on a model. It won't activate in-flight - or at least it's not supposed to.
The closest approximation is the AL37 with the wings extended. When the wings are swept, she flies unlike any other model I own. It's hard to describe. You'll have to try one and see. Thanks!
Hey there, is this a standard Freewing F-14 twin 80mm? I would like to buy one, but wanted to know i need to do some upgrades for a beter performance? Greetings
That day could be today. She flies pretty tame with wings extended and set up via my specs - but it's a bit more challenging with the wings swept. Not something I'd leave her in constantly for sure.
Hola, al plegar las alas tiene algún mecanismo de compensación del CG? , como desplazar la batería hacia atrás, porque he visto que plegaste las alas en vuelo muy lento y no metió el ala
No brakes needed! Just gotta land better. I've got an upcoming video demonstrating it with full span flaps. It'll come in very slowly and won't roll out as far.
@@TwoBrosRC The engine nozzle has to be in front of the planes nose in that case. The nose up angle has to be greater than 90° by definition to be called cobra. Maybe its caused by the cameraangle but it dosnt look like that to me :D
>a rapid vertical pitchup from level flight without initiating a climb, followed by a forward-pitch back to level flight. If properly performed, the plane maintains nearly straight flight throughout the maneuver. The plane does not roll or yaw in either direction. It's not a 120 degree AoA cobra but it's still a cobra. The full scale F-14 didn't do 120 degrees either.
I don't understand the obsession people have with cobra, on a 40 ton jet in the sky it looks cool but it serves no positive tacticle advantage, it's a great way to out manuevered and loose all your speed to not be able to escape.
Funny thing is that I actually reduced it significantly. Cut me a little slack lol, I barely upload videos with music. ;) Thanks for the feedback though!
@@TwoBrosRC lol sorry, I just really like the sound of the jet. Still liked the video a ton, keep it up. You're a huge help to a lot of us. Appreciate ya
Thanks for your thoughts. Sometimes I make videos for everyone and those are the types I don't add After Burner music to. Sometimes I make videos to make myself happy and this is one of them.😀
Congrats on the maiden flights Jon I see "You feel the need...THE NEED FOR SPEED!"😁
Nice flying! Personally I prefer no music and just your narration! :)
Thanks! I normally prefer no music as well, but it's a Tomcat and ABII music is all I hear when I see it. Fits, IMO.
@@TwoBrosRC got it! ;)
Music is on point! Always blows my mind the scale of these things, huge!
I've been itching to get this music out of my head, so I'm glad other people found it fitting lol
Awesome flight!!!!!
Ward Carroll would be happy to watch this F14 video…
Ward Carroll was a F14 RIO and has a CZcams channel.
Thanks Jon for sharing you F14 flight.
Feel free to ping him, maybe he'll find it interesting. Thanks Andy!
Nice demonstration Jon! I’m sure it will only get better as you log more flights!!
Great Video! Subbed! Thanks for the info!
Your camera and camera man do a great job keeping the plane in screen and in focus. Look forward to seeing more from you guys.
Excellent flight, now gonna go watch your set up video👊🏼👊🏼
This has to be one of those planes that everyone must have, it's amazing 👏
Well done buddy that was a nice and complete maiden 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤩
Love that cobra. I'm gonna hit the brakes and he'll fly right by lol.
Congrats! Nice flight brotha
What a great looking model. Nice flying.
Thanks Richard!
Awesome maiden flight.
Super dope homie I salute you!!
Man!! that was an awesome Maiden
Scott and I took her back out today to get the full span flaps dialed in. I burned through four packs before finally getting it to a point where it would fly correctly. Now we're good to go! Video of the T&G flights coming soon. :)
Nice man! I havent had the balls yet to attempt a flat spin with mine. I felt like it would be too crazy to get out of, but you proved me wrong. I did the same goof with opposite spoiler to elevon. The whole flight had me thinking that the plane was acting weird for some reason until i saw what it was on the ground. Haha. I havent flown mine for a couple months though cause i havent narrowed down the left wing sudden drop when i do a negative g pushover. Even when i have alot of speed the left wing will always shoot towards the belly. Flys great all the rest of the time. Its my third favorite twin 80.
The thing about flat spins in EDFs is that unless they're so underpowered that they can barely get off the ground, you're unlikely to run into any issue with getting out of the spin. A spin isn't necessarily unrecoverable in radio control - but it is potentially deadly in full scale like the F-14's generally unrecoverable flat spin. There's no issue with engine flameout on EDFs so the power is there instantly when I ask for it. If you're ever concerned but still want to try it, get up to 400 ft and do one spin, then attempt to throttle out. I doubt you'll have any issues!
@@TwoBrosRC sweet. I will give it a try this saturday weekend when its supposedly to be almost 50 degrees. Thrust shouldnt be a problem with 12b fans and het 1860kv motors. Hopefully my buddy dave from model jet juggernaut can video it. Hes the only one that uploads to youtube. The rest of us are epically too lazy.haha
Awesome maiden ! That was great !! Beautiful! I love it ! What kind of camera are you using ?
Tony's using an iPhone 13 Pro I believe. Thanks!
@@TwoBrosRC niiice ! 👍🏻👍🏻
Dream plane!
Sweet!!
No U
flat spin procedure by Hoser :
tighten harnas
match thrusties
override wing sweep aft
CG moves backwards and the nose has to drop
👀
I happened to have headphones on while I watched this video. It was cool listening to the full scale plane fly over in stereo. I could also tell where you were standing. What kind of camera did you use?
Tony and Scott both film with their own iPhone 13 Pro. I'm not much for iDevices but I can't argue with the footage quality they produce.
@@TwoBrosRC I have better luck with my iPhone 11 than I do with my Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200. I wouldn’t have thought the iPhones would do stereo..
@@txkflier Surprisingly, yeah, they have great video and audio quality.
Hi Jon. As always, very cool. My RC flying unfortunately doesn’t have a runway for this type of plane.
I’d like to ask you two questions unrelated to this particular video. I have an ix12 and a number of planes and Helis.
1) The latest update to the Airware software now causes my ix12 to produce an audio alert (discovered during bench testing) “Battery not charged for flying”. Is this alarm somehow aware of being airborne versus being on the ground?
2) There are frame rate settings located both in “Model Setup” and in “Forward Programming”. Why are frame rate settings located in both the transmitter and the receiver? What if they’re mismatched?
There are a lot of undocumented features in my Spektrum ix12.
I would really appreciate any insight you may have. Thx. Wolfgang
Thanks Wolfgang! The "not charged for flying" alert is found in your Smart Battery telemetry menu. You can disable it from there. It should only go off if a Smart pack is connected that isn't fully charged to 4.1+ volts.
Frame rate settings in the transmitter determine how fast frames are transmitted. 11ms is faster than 22ms in your transmitter, but reduces the amount of channels that you can transmit. The receiver frame rate in Forward Programming determines how fast servos operate, IIRC. There's no issue with mismatching unless you're using pure analog servos which won't work well, or at all, with 11ms.
Thanks Jon, great information. One minor clarification, regarding the battery not charged for flying alert. I like the idea of that alarm. At some point however, a battery in flight will cross the 4.1 volt threshold. Would that not cause this alarm to trigger during flight?
@@wolfgangreiner744 Sorry about taking a bit of time to get back with you. YT caught you in the spam filter again. The "not charged for flying" warning only pops up when you first turn on a model. It won't activate in-flight - or at least it's not supposed to.
Thank you Jon.
Nice Video Man!! What other airplane that you have would you say this flies like?
The closest approximation is the AL37 with the wings extended. When the wings are swept, she flies unlike any other model I own. It's hard to describe. You'll have to try one and see. Thanks!
@@TwoBrosRC Heavy? Light? or in between?
It's 14 pounds with both 6s packs but definitely doesn't always feel heavy on the sticks. The slower it flies, the more apparent the weight is.
@@TwoBrosRC Ahhhh ok I gotcha
Nice, not a lot of people can tame this jet
Hey there, is this a standard Freewing F-14 twin 80mm? I would like to buy one, but wanted to know i need to do some upgrades for a beter performance? Greetings
Check our one year review on it before buying it.
One day when I grow up....
That day could be today. She flies pretty tame with wings extended and set up via my specs - but it's a bit more challenging with the wings swept. Not something I'd leave her in constantly for sure.
Hola, al plegar las alas tiene algún mecanismo de compensación del CG? , como desplazar la batería hacia atrás, porque he visto que plegaste las alas en vuelo muy lento y no metió el ala
Check our other videos for the info.
Great job.. Good flying.. Now you need brakes..
No brakes needed! Just gotta land better. I've got an upcoming video demonstrating it with full span flaps. It'll come in very slowly and won't roll out as far.
@@TwoBrosRC Cool... Wehave a grass field.. Natural braking.. lol..
Nice, I want one, but really you need a decent field not all those objects waiting to take your model out.
Watch our recent content, we haven't flown at this place in over a year and a half at this point. ;)
Very nice flown and an amazing bird but what you guys call cobra, is in fact just a short pitch up and has nothing to do with the cobra manouver :D
Except it's a cobra and I'm not sure why you think it isn't when it clearly is.
@@TwoBrosRC The engine nozzle has to be in front of the planes nose in that case. The nose up angle has to be greater than 90° by definition to be called cobra. Maybe its caused by the cameraangle but it dosnt look like that to me :D
>a rapid vertical pitchup from level flight without initiating a climb, followed by a forward-pitch back to level flight. If properly performed, the plane maintains nearly straight flight throughout the maneuver. The plane does not roll or yaw in either direction.
It's not a 120 degree AoA cobra but it's still a cobra. The full scale F-14 didn't do 120 degrees either.
I don't understand the obsession people have with cobra, on a 40 ton jet in the sky it looks cool but it serves no positive tacticle advantage, it's a great way to out manuevered and loose all your speed to not be able to escape.
It looks cool.
Great flying. Not digging the music tho. In the future, can you reduce the music volume? Love the plane though.
Funny thing is that I actually reduced it significantly. Cut me a little slack lol, I barely upload videos with music. ;)
Thanks for the feedback though!
@@TwoBrosRC lol sorry, I just really like the sound of the jet. Still liked the video a ton, keep it up. You're a huge help to a lot of us. Appreciate ya
@@silversrt4ken Sure thing my man. I'll be flying it sans music going forward, most likely.
behaves like it has a gyro active?
Yeah, I use a stabilizer. It's part of my receiver.
@@TwoBrosRC What kind is it? I wasn't paying attention to your transmitter either?
I'm using the AR10360T which you can pick up via tinyurl.com/AR10360T, and the IX20 which is available via tinyurl.com/IX20Transmitter
Music takes away from video. I want to hear the jet. Otherwise, great review.
Thanks for your thoughts. Sometimes I make videos for everyone and those are the types I don't add After Burner music to. Sometimes I make videos to make myself happy and this is one of them.😀
Alpha?
Didn't even try. The thought hadn't occurred that day.
@@TwoBrosRC I’m curious if it will alpha with the wings back
@@Ogivekrew That's a good question. I'm not sure I'm ready to find out just yet.
@@TwoBrosRC hahaha understood!
@@Ogivekrew It does alpha with them swept. I've done it with mine
What fly by at 8:34 - 8:35 ?.
Do what now?
Check ur video at 8:35. Something looks like a ROD flys by.
Hmm, not seeing it.
Do u have an instagram ? I can send it to you.
5ynaesthesia
can you not put more powerful EDFs in this F-14, it just seems soooo slow!
Already did, check our latest uploads on it.
@@TwoBrosRC post the links please
@@reconforsales7708 Search for "Freewing 1920kv inrunner" and you'll find it.
Nice video, loose the music
Nah, I'm keeping it. Thanks though!
kill the music
A bit late for that now considering it's already uploaded.