Tyranny in Disguise | Dr. Yoram Hazony | EP 305
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Dr Jordan B Peterson and Dr. Yoram Hazony discuss the major problems plaguing today's youths, such as the resurgence of Marxism under the guise of woke morality, the creation of aimless social hierarchies that leave participants devoid of meaning, and the complete lack of respect for adverse thinking that has lead to the deterioration of our foundational principles.
Dr. Yoram Hazony is an Israeli author, philosopher, political theorist, and Bible scholar. In 1994, Dr. Hazony founded the Shalem Center in Jerusalem, which became Shalem College in 2013. Being the first liberal arts college in Israel, it attracted widespread attention, followed by much acclaim as many of the country's renowned intellectuals joined its staff. Hazony has also served as director of the John Templeton Foundation's project in Jewish Philosophical Theology, as well as a member of the Israel Council for Higher Education committee. Dr. Hazony has published many books, his 2018 work, The Virtue of Nationalism, being awarded Conservative Book of the Year in 2019. He also maintains a regularly published blog, Jerusalem Letters, that explores the topics of philosophy, politics, Judaism, Israel, and higher education. Other writings by Dr. Hazony have been published in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and American Affairs.
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(0:00) Coming Up
(0:54) Intro
(1:51) Rediscovery
(3:00) Cultural revolution
(6:33) Stored cultural capital
(10:00) Sanity and marxism
(15:43) Meaning and service
(22:00) Hierarchy, tyranny, and the tribe
(31:43) Widespread misconceptions on Conservatism
(37:36) Mutation, genetic/hierarchical stabilization
(44:20) Constitutional Axioms, British common law
(50:50) Redefining the fundamentals
(57:23) Entropy and Iliad
(1:00:35) The Flood, myth across culture
(1:05:25) The call to responsibility, utopian schemes
(1:10:15) Parenting, shedding adolescence
(1:13:29) The case for faith,
(1:17:20) Abraham, the call to adventure
(1:19:55) To honor those around you
(1:26:00) Integral liberalism, the lack of filter
(1:29:45) Common respect, breaking down tribalism
(1:34:20) The act of judgment
(1:37:30) Why tilt Conservative?
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Because of Jordan I started education now I am in University studing Clinical Psychology. He inspired me
I've been in practice 9 years and he is teaching me just by listening to his explanations and approach. Grats on your decision to pursure an education in this field.
If truth be told, you could almost obtain a university education listening to Dr. Peterson. In point of fact, his lectures are wonderful for covering the humanities and liberal arts, something I missed in obtaining my engineering degrees.
Good for you!
Congratulations 👏 and yes, Jordan is beyond inspirational 🙏
That sounds awesome! I am not saying this to discourage you but, make sure you find out what the senior sem classes are like so you can strategize about how you are going to deal with them before you get there. Senior seminars or the last class you take before you get your certification/Masters Degree tend to be where the worst of the gate-keeping BS is. That way, they can get a sensible person's money while still not allowing them to get their degree. It may also be a good idea to take a couple of good general philosophy classes early on. I didn't take one until my senior year and had been completely baffled in earlier classes by a deconstructionist English professor and I just thought that I was an idiot the whole time.
I am not from the US, and English is in fact my second language. I am so lucky to be able to hear and understand the pure essence of Jordan without something being lost in translation, which there is almost none to my language. I have learned so much from this man without ever meeting him. Meeting him one day would be a very happy day for me. Thank you for all of your work, live long and prosper! I cannot imagine a world without you right now. Who else is gonna be so smart and passionate about what he does, so genuine and excellent at critical thinking, and also such a good teacher and mentor to so many people, including myself. Wishing you to live the longest life possible and all of the other best things in the world.
If you ever have a chance to meet Doctor Peterson in person, do so. I ran into him on the street in Louisville a couple years ago and I was blown away with how nice he was and the way he paid attention to me like I was the most interesting person on earth for those brief moments.
Louisville KY?
@@thomaskeene4097 yes
You WERE in FACT the most important person in the world to him in those moments. Genuine interest in another is almost a lost art
@@nerdoutreachprogram5358 that's awesome didn't even know he came.
I grew up there in shively. Moved out to leitchfield when the heroin took the city
How Pierre Poilievre made me feel...I really like both..they care about the PEOPLE
Man I really appreciate the discussion about a husband and wife honoring eachother. So many of us need to hear this.
Women need to hear it
So do men.
I would offer the Catholic concept of the Domestic Church. The husband is the head and the wife submits to him. The concept of subsidiarity insures their roles within the marriage are mutual and loving. Marriage is a sacrament and God is at it's heart.
@@stevenbingham5666 1) Catholic church is one of the last places in the world id seek moral guidance.
2) even if thats good advice its not going to work for most marriages. Not in The West at least.
@@stevenbingham5666 Doubt that will work until no-fault divorce is reverted back to fault divorce, the family courts are made fairer, and government benefits aren't easy income for single mothers
When I retired, I became so overwhelmed by the absence purpose, the absence of value, and an overwhelming emptiness, that it nearly crushed me. Being completely on your own can generate depression incredibly easy. I started a get together with my friends once a week and also joined another get together with another group of friends on another weekly cycle. That was the key, being around friends. Conversing, laughing, telling stories, and generally fellow shipping twice a week helped me over that first year on my own. All of my friends have the same hobby as I do, old cars. Those people and things literally saved me.
Jesus loves you mate! Remember that
@@jonastrex05 Maybe but his followers won't necessarily, and that tends to matter a lot more since we can verify their existence.
@X I like your story and so glad you found the friends, that you so gladly appreciate and enjoy their company too.
Though i am younger, i still understand that type of panic mode when less busy or more time alone can feel like death. But, it gets better and better. I found it even more beautiful as those years went by. I actually adore more time alone and avoid all my friends who always find issues with me and i even avoid my boyfriend, who i love. I find it magical being on my own a lot more now. 🧚🩰😊
@@TheJeremyKentBGross I like how CS Lewis talks about this in Mere Christianity - just because a person claims to be a Christian doesn't mean they are. And even if they are, they certainly aren't perfect.
@@db-pz1dh 20 years ago that book helped chip away at my faith with some non sequiturs. But you are right. There's no evidence of supernatural anything behind it. Just people claiming to believe some stories. Some are good, some aren't so good, but mostly it just seems like a social club that judges people and thinks as a group hive mind.
I work a lot on the road, and that requires a lot of driving. I love listening to Dr Peterson while traveling.
Good for you. I like the car heater set at 75°F while driving in winter temperatures.
Nice
I have a similar situation with work. I bet you and I would make for a good conversation.
enjoy the brainwash
@@maurice2014 non-sequitur meanie
An important thing to note about people being more cautious about having children, is that a few decades ago childrearing was done by an entire family. Today, the parents are often going at it alone. Another symptom of atomized society.
Agree. The extended family, friendly neighbors is very important in raising children.
Parents are expected to be Grandparents, uncles, Aunties, cousins, all very distinct roles in a child’s life.
Very true, me and my husband sadly have done and still do it alone. Although our children still have both of their grandparents they only are in name involved. Our neighbours are immigrants so there is only mom and dad to raise them. But we are doing a pretty good job.
A faithful community can help this isolation, we moved over 1000 miles from the big city we used to live in. Our church family in our new home town has been a tremendous help in socializing our children, we still have to take on a huge amount of work on and don't have trusted babysitters yet. However, our children love going to the children's class and they have made many friends. Keep it up! have faith Y'all and like these lovely fellas said honor one another.
Yes the parents are the first responsible for raising children. But historically it was always the extended family. Neighbours and the community around us whether they like it or not also have some degree of responsibility in caring for children whether they know them personally ally or not.
Now I’m the last 2-3 generations all that happened throughout the ages has changed. What is the cause?
To name a few:
Materialsim, feminism, sexual revolution to name a few have all being some leading causes to the attack on family values, traditions and unity.
Very insightful. 'Getting to the corner office is nothing compared to the challenge and adventure that comes from learning how to govern a family.' That notion certainly upends a lot of current thinking.
Let's just take a moment to realize that Jordan is healthy, passionate and working hard for the great good. It was only a while ago we thought we might lose him
What happened? I only started listening to him about a week ago.
@@Foreskin-Bandit He took Benzodiazepines (sorry for bad spelling) from around 2018/19 around i think. And then he lowered the dose and had very strong wothdrawal symptoms. And there were probably some other things involved that we don't know about. Like other health complications. I also think that his diet might have something to do with it. Because it is restrictive to the point that i think changes the whole microbiome, because it's so extremely restrictive.
@@Foreskin-Bandit You should start listening to his videos from 2016-2019, especially his university lectured (uploaded on his channel). I think that that was the prime of his influence so far. He was probably one of the most discussed and controversial people on the Planet at that time
God is good.
@@youlig1 alright, thanks
One of your best shows/conversations ever. Since my wife's death 8 years ago I have struggled in so many ways. I not only lost her but it seems all possibility of being happy. All the structure in my life disappeared all the people that depended on me disappeared. There was no one to honor. I lost my physical ability to do my job so I lost my job and my line of work; I am an electrician, and so the people at work that relied on me and my responsibilities be met also diappeared. So I have been miserable. The way you and your colleague explained it now it all makes so much sense to me now. I believe that anyone who is confused in their life or about being happy, or simply want to know which way to go could get so much from watching this conversation. I like you Jordan. I like you and your show and you are doing great things in this world for others and you are an inspiration to me and so many in this world. You are a remarkable person who has so much of himself to be proud of. Thanks again
❤️🙏
My condolences. =(
We would all do one another a good deed if none of us were proud. Think about how haughty pride is.
Thanks for your openness.. it goes a long way in providing people with personal struggles that we all face at times throughout life. All the best
We need you. You are needed.
I raised my kids in the 70’s & 80’s. I do recall the beginnings of that liberal philosophy of let your children be free . Personally I chose Adler’s method of raising children by logical consequences. It worked great for my family and all three children grew up to be happy and successful. An quick example of that method was, if a child took his tricycle in the street instead of staying in the driveway or sidewalk as instructed then you take the tricycle away for a short time. Never make punishment too long to where the child feels hopeless in ever getting his bike back. Time to a child is long.
I've been living in a state of "extended adolescence" for 35 years.
It's time I grew up.
Thank you, gentlemen; you've helped me more than you know.
Fantastic discussion on family obligations and responsibilities. A restoration is definitely needed in our society!
I haven't watched the video yet, so I'm not sure what restoration you are referring to. But for almost two decades now, I've been of the opinion that the principles related to liberty needed to be restored. So much of what liberty depends on has been eroded from our society's knowledge base, to the point that in the last two years alone, liberty has been willingly sacrificed for "greater good" concepts. I believe that if the majority of western civilization actually understood our history, understood what liberty is and means, and understood how liberty came to be and mean what it does, we would be able to have it again. For instance, multiple critical thinkers and founding members of the United States made it clear that liberty was dependent on morality, and that no matter how much effort is put into the government not being exploitable, if the people are immoral, they will lose their liberty. Unfortunately, history is being revised continually, and the philosophers and heroes of the past are being torn down or phased out, and the knowledge that they had is being condemned and forgotten. So, now we find ourselves about to begin a civil war where neither side actually represents liberty for itself nor its "enemy." Therefore, it doesn't matter who wins, because liberty won't exist for either side when the smoke clears. It's a really dismal outlook, but I believe it is accurate. So now, the only hope we have as far as I can tell is if we have a sudden change of heart and the majority of us begin to value true morality, or if enough people learn to appreciate and understand liberty so that they can rebuild when the war is over.
@@Reiman33 It never does as one can see from history, don't see why it would be any different this time.
A restoration might start with accountability, not censorship. I'm not even sure people understand the meaning of accountability for the choices they make rather than crying victim. None of us always make the right choice all the time. However, there is incredible power in owning the choices made that lead you to where you are.
Understanding why we make the choices we make is so important to becoming more empowered without blaming others.
We lost so much of the family unit 💔 since 1962 2963..Bible and 🙏 pray out of schools. Ten Commandments came down..know we wonder what happened.
Try reading Ayn Rand books.
When he said a spouse becomes more desirable by giving respect, I stopped the podcast to reflect on an surprising incident this morning after church.
I was talking with a couple of friends when a teenager tapped me on the shoulder. She gave me a hug and told me she wanted to say she loved me before she left.
Afterwards, my friend asked, "Is she your granddaughter?'
"No, last year she and I were getting coffee at the same time, and I thought she looked a little shy, so I introduced myself. Ever since, I've made it a point to notice her and greet her warmly by name. After a while she would greet me first and once we exchanged a hug."
As JP says, it's sweet but nearly heartbreaking to see how people are starved for a little encouragement.
Great story Dolly
Remember the old Oxford English Dictionary definition of "Charity"? = "Christian love" (I Cor. 13).
Absolutely! The young need guidance but many believe they know all....when i was young i asked my father for advice. This world elders arent consulted
Love one another ( bear one another's burdens, edify one another, etc) -- the number two commandment. It's the major reason why Believers are told to gather. It's amazing how just recognizing someone and being interested in them can cause such a reaction. You have to wonder what's going on in her home.
I had a good home but as a teen still needed other people
Thank you for this interview. I really appreciated what Dr. Hazony had to say. The last 20 minutes really hit hard. Honor is a huge missing piece of our society, and in our personal lives in general. Thank you for the reminder
I used two separate time periods finishing up listening this great, important, and urgent talk. Thank you Jordan Peterson and Dr. Yoram Hazony.
This presentation is life changing for me. I have been “lost” for years due to loss and grief and I can see a path back to life. So thankful.
Have you seen *The Strain* ? Chilling contemporary comparisons, the old man is obviously J.D. Rockefeller, the man behind the Spanish Flu, *(Bacterial Meningitis)* ,Governments are now in *LOCKSTEP* with the Rockefeller Foundation's plan for the world, published in May 2010. We are in *LOCKDOWN* as recommended in that plan. !!!
THE SPIKE PROTEIN IN COVID VACCINES IS PUTTING YOU AT SERIOUS RISK, ACCORDING TO THE SCIENCE
BOMBSHELL NEW FOIA DOCUMENTS REVEAL THE COVID PANDEMIC WAS A DOD OPERATION DATING BACK TO OBAMA
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As well, I am a 48 year old with tremendous propensity for making bad decisions. A two decade heroin addiction tbh. And though I have a few years of being off the stuff, I have a hard time still. My bad decisions of the past has made it difficult to rebuild my life. Responsibility and taking control of my emotions and how I express and deal with them in particular. Point being (sorry for the rant) Dr. Peterson has made me laugh, cry, and at times be angry with what he says (because the truth hurts). And for this, I love this man.
@@michaelholston2233 this is so beautiful to hear. Tremendous, great work my brother! I am glad to have you.
It's so good to hear that you are set upon a good path. Believe me, I've been in that ditch in my youth and the 60 since. I don't know you, but I'm in your corner. I will pray for you. " Cast all your cares upon the LORD, for HE cares for you". - I Peter 5:7
@@JourneyWithDrBill On the contrary. Be hard on yourself. Shape yourself as iron, become the beautiful instrument God wants you to be. When you break down, remember the Lord shows mercy.
Jordan made me want to expand my punctuation and grammar I have started reading books written by roman emperors and writing my thoughts using old English. As a black Jamaican man in Britain, I want to learn to speak elegantly and eloquently
I’m white from London and i want to sound like that too. I think it appeals to adults more as we get older. Everyone wants something fresh or new in life. To lift up our souls to see what else is going on out there. Life can be interesting as well as bad. We all have different moments and different times. Enjoy🌻
It is a pleasure to listen to such an intelligent discourse between two brilliant minds! It's a shame so many will never hear this just because they've been told Peterson in the enemy and they must avoid him at all costs.
I love these videos, i live a pretty isolated life, unable to work full time due to my disability and single guy living alone.
Due to this i get depressed sometimes just from being alone, feeling way less than what could be.
That said, Dr Peterson you are an uplifting and hopeful voice in my life that i really didnt know i needed so badly.
Now i get up at 4 am (thanks Jocko) i do what workout and stretching i can and go to work at 6 delivering papers.
Man its not much but getting up, cleaning my room, and doing something has actually saved my life.
I did not know what to do after i broke my back and neck 3 years ago.
I fell into such deep depression, i felt like my life was over.
Nowadays with exercise and the occasional cannabis along with my daily medications i can get up and work again. Im getting better.
Thank for being there, sharing your lectures (i love the maps of meaning lectures) and your love for people. You really are a great person that we desperately need right now. God bless❤
This is exactly the kind of in-depth discourse we need. Society needs to shed its old legacy media shell with their 8-second sound bites and engage in more conversations like this.
You think the average person has a one hour attention span?
You are correct but how will that come about.
It’s all apart of the globalists elites plan their puppets are Klaus shwaub and Jobs and Harrari among others who they are well there’s allot of them most likely the usual shadow leaders like the Morgan’s Medici rockefellers and rothchilds and world leaders country’s over , I can’t name every group for sure the ability to hide is what gives them power . They want us chemically castrated so we can’t populate more and without testosterone we won’t have the energy or power to rise up like our ancestors with 10x test would have They want our moral grounding that took us so far erradicated and confused masked under wokness and pushed by their useful idiots the “extreme liberals “ who in the true terms are anything but liberal . And keep us distracted with tv and porn unlike our ancestors who had to stew in their thourghts among the company of friends , leading to them standing up. It’s just like the old Roman saying : “give them bread and games and they will ignore everything else we do” . The devil is in the detail . The world is moving towards feudalism and we are the serfs . The WEF openly talks and publishes its views about how “we will own nothing have no privacy and be happy”. These people have addresses .
This required open mind... only maybe 3-5% of population have true open mind...
@@williamwalker1264 By setting the best examples you can & holding to your traditional moral convictions. Lead by example but understand there is always more to learn. Embrace the good (creative) and disguard the bad (destruction & destructive people). Weed your garden...
I used to not like him very much, but the more I listened to him, the more I came to respect and appreciate him. Even if I disagree on many topics with him, he never fails to amaze me with his humility. Very few people in this world have the amazing skill of Dr. Peterson to just listen to a differing point of view. And he doesn't do so in a perfunctory manner either. He listens, absorbs, and is so interested and keen to help his opponent convince him. And, if someone presents a well-rounded, fact-based, non-emotional argument to him, he opens up to a brand new idea right away. A remarkable thing to witness in this world of narcissistic public personalities.
I thank both of you for welcoming us to partake in the conversation between you two. Both thoughtful and well spoken... Excellent use of education and understanding through your experiences..
"PROFOUND RESPONSIBILITY " phenomenal.... all of this podcast. Brilliant
My daily responsibilities often seem to outweigh my daily abilities. But listening to JPB of an evening, a walk with my dogs, a kind word of appreciation from my wife and other such weightless things re-balance those heavy scales.
your a good man, keep being you
@@lughaidhmoutia3589 Aww. That was kind of you and you may have cheered these guys up. . :)
I hear you! Sometimes i cant even cook dinner. Just move forward
Wisdom. Something the world has become almost completely devoid of. Here however it flourishes in abundance. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
More people need to understand this whole concept in order to realize what's really going on. It seems most people are too busy with work & their personal lives to care enough to want to know, or understand.
9 to 5 jobs are a mental prison for most... Essentially manufactures NPCs.
Gentlemen, this was magnificent! Refreshing, unpolluted sanity. If only men like you could govern this sinking planet. Thank you for all that you are doing to try to help us.
This conversation was beautiful, something I am deeply grateful for. Intellectual is not the same as wise. Amazing teachers you are. Thank you.
Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
The Doc had a lot of important things to say for sure, but he isn't a speaker. It was very exhausting listening to all his stutters and brainlags.
Intellectual AND wise.
Jordan has done more deep, philosophical, psychological, social, & theosophical analysis, & personal introspective contemplation as anyone on the planet.
@@mr.nobody2244 I agree, BUT if it's a choice between him not speaking at all OR listening through the stutters, I'd take the latter.. with great respect.
@@dennisbrazeal9152 !!?
You have changed my life in a ways that I can't explain. With great love and respect for you sir from Iran.
Are you crazy muhammed? Do you know how is yoram hazony?!!!!
I enjoyed this way more than I even expected. I came in looking forward to some cutting critiques of Marxism, and I left with profound insights about growing and living a fulfilling and meaningful life. Many thanks to you both!
Jordan B Peterson: "My message to the Hungarians
Do not rebel against your PM
Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
It might be worth mentioning, the one commandment that comes with a promise is “ Honor thy father and mother that the days may be long upon the land.”
That was a very fruitful conversation. ❤
Just saw JP live in Auckland, new Zealand last night. The man is brilliant, entertaining, extremely helpful and finds all sorts of humour in truth- had a completely packed stadium, people of their seats cheering to hear some leader for once telling the god dam truth
Glad to hear that 👍
There rubbing elbows with J.A., that wretched wraith of a murderess, I shouldn't be surprised to learn!
He claims to be against the WEF, and crew, but I think that is just smoke and mirrors, personally, as he depends upon the same corruption as They do, it should be obvious.
The eagle needs both the Left and the Right wing in order to fly...
@@MJK87 I understand, that is human nature, but JP is a lot closer to what we would want to be as humans. The world would be a better place
@@mistawolfe8541 - suit yourself.
If you are taking the bicycle to hell, or the bullet train-- you are still being driven to hell.
The man is a Sly and Wiley snake, but So, So Many love and honor this MAN, and heap praises and glory at his feet...
Sound familiar?
What do you believe, that he will carry your soul to Salvation for you, or will he just help turn down the heat, when you are next to him and Jim Jones, in hell?
Do not be lazy, and say to me "he is a lesser evil". I am not a believer in the choosing of evil, period, even unto the sacrifice of this worthy, little life for my Faith in the principles of Love, which triumphs over ALL, but especially over the lovers of filth and wretched lies, and the lovers of worldly comfort, to be had at the cost of another's life, as we shall do unto the least of this worthy Creation, well, What Does That Mean?
Come on, folks, grow some Faith, because that is surely one thing that no other man or woman can do for you , and is of the most important acts one will accomplish in a life well lived. If only....
Damn I wanted to see him. I forgot he was coming. Where was he speaking ? Did he have any ideas on how to fight them ?
My favorite part is when Jordan says that the word we use to communicate are given to us by tradition, and even the thought we create from those words probably aren't original, and then Dr. Hazony says "you know Selden said that exact same thing 400 years ago" 😂😂
Is like telling Jordan I know who the Author is....the other dude is deep and knowledgeable also
As he says, all these thoughts have already been enunciated. No need to rethink the obvious. I wish Jordan would stop trying to pretend he's forging some new path of thought. It's all already there, we just need to reclaim it.
@@zootsoot2006 When has he claimed to be the original creator of these ideas?
@@zootsoot2006 I noticed that in him
@@caralho5237 by not crediting the Author of what you quoted
This subject there on, is precisely what I've been resistant to for so long, has been extremely elusive for me as well. I'm so grateful 🙏 these two men sat down and just in their discussions has facilitated getting my mind sorted out as to , just what the hell that's been going on with myself for like the last 45 years of my life externally out there in the wold.
This is a profound conversation. Plus, it introduced me to Dr Hazony, whom I shall follow closely.
Bro his take on marxism is bad
@@tennicksalvarez9079 Bro, you're missing the point entirely.
I watched a debate back in 1979 I believe between Carter /Regan & I was shocked at how respectful everyone was to each other especially the press .It was clear they were doing their job . It was a better class of people .We are now very lost .
Adult politicians are setting a horrible, horrible example for our kids.They make me sick to see they way they talk about their opponents. They are setting an example of hatred to a future generation.
@@cammyers1487 RFK is doing a pretty decent job staying respectful of the other candidates.
It was serendipity to find this wonderful discussion. After listening to this, I went to a church yesterday and it might be just what I needed! Though I have to learn how to talk to people again after hiding out for so long, it's a beginning. A pathway out of my confusion, lack of direction, and loneliness is presenting itself.
Push back against the impulse to go internal. Its easier said than done, as with all mental blocks. But the fact that you stepped out, went to church, socialized, and momentarily got out of your own head. Kudos to you! 👏🏻 keep up the effort.
Kudos! Know though that church alone is not enough, you need to seek to know Jesus, and then you will understand what the purpose of church is
This almost brings me to tears. I'm so happy to see this, I know what it's like to be lost and alone and confused. I still am 😂 but I have a much better vision ahead of me now. Glad you're on a good path yourself, be well and be safe 👍
That's awesome Jack!! I go to art school in New England and my only friend is listening to JP lectures. Even the Church groups at school are left wing (I am Catholic) which is unfortunate. I notice I tend to be cynical and thing all things are corrupt, so this lecture is incredibly helpful- especially in dealing with the politics of my school. The pathway as you mentioned is an amazing thing, yet difficult. Trying to separate what feels like muck and garbage from the good of this world is difficult. I will say a prayer for you brother-- even though we feel lonely, we aren't totally alone. God bless!
Religion is just another crutch. The leftists have their secular religions, like climate change, equality of outcome, the bogeyman virus. The solution to a crappy life is to get off your ass and do something.
I was touched deeply by much of this conversation. Just now when specifying the value of living a conservative life hit strong. I had to forward this to each of my children. You have helped me personally recognize that despite the current state of my marriage I recognize I have become a better person through the years. Wow!!!!
It is a blessing having the unique opportunity to watch Jordan Peterson interviewing Dr Yoram Hazony. I have watched several lectures with Evandro Pontes, a Brazillian great writer/jurist/professor who translated his book about nationalism. I just will enjoy now!
After a conversation like this I could not resist buying Dr. Hazony’s book. I want to delve deeper and see some of the parallels between his ideas and the ones expressed in 12 Rules For Life. Thank you!
Seems like a smart move my guy!!!
It’s all apart of the globalists elites plan their puppets are Klaus shwaub and Jobs and Harrari among others who they are well there’s allot of them most likely the usual shadow leaders like the Morgan’s Medici rockefellers and rothchilds and world leaders country’s over , I can’t name every group for sure the ability to hide is what gives them power . They want us chemically castrated so we can’t populate more and without testosterone we won’t have the energy or power to rise up like our ancestors with 10x test would have They want our moral grounding that took us so far erradicated and confused masked under wokness and pushed by their useful idiots the “extreme liberals “ who in the true terms are anything but liberal . And keep us distracted with tv and porn unlike our ancestors who had to stew in their thourghts among the company of friends , leading to them standing up. It’s just like the old Roman saying : “give them bread and games and they will ignore everything else we do” . The devil is in the detail . The world is moving towards feudalism and we are the serfs . The WEF openly talks and publishes its views about how “we will own nothing have no privacy and be happy”. These people have addresses .
Maybe you’ll find some answers by reading books by Ayn Rand ,I know I did.
@@normandolinic2044 she is definitely on my list. Thanks
"Turns out the greatest adventure in life, oddly enough, is to adhere to truth and responsibility" -JP
Jeez, I feel like the more I hear JP the more I have been fed lies my whole upbringing. So grateful for this man.
You have been. We all have
thankfully I'm bulimic
Give me some examples
The more i listen to JP the more i know he lies
@@malcolmfreeman7802 Comprehension skills are lacking if u perceive that.
Absolutely awesome and very relevant conversation! I especially loved when Dr. Yoram talked about Scripture:
Psalm 119:98-100 KJV - Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me. I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation. I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.
May the Lord God bless you both!
I like that too.
26:27 True corporatism is the answer. It’s definition today is false. Today we have a perverted internationalist, inverted version, to protect the interests of the few foreign g Lο βαe Lu$τs who own corporations. Corporatism, is supposed to mediate, and represent worker groups. The word has been demonised so much, that you never even look into it’s true meaning. This is done by design. Look to how this word is used in Christianity.
“Corporate prayer is the term used to describe praying together with other people - in small groups or larger gatherings of people. Corporate prayer is an important part of the life of the church, we read in Acts 2:42 that the early church gathered to pray.”
Dr Yoram's wisdom shines through. His background has obviously contributed to his knowing and understanding the real intent of Genesis story was good.
My dad came back and honored me by claiming me as his child BEFORE the DNA test showed in the high 90 percentile. I was in my early 40's. This melding of the hearts 💕 💞 brought a very deep connection and the honor flowed in both directions because we both needed each other's love, attention, and validation as well as sharing our history, experiences, and philosophy. He then lived another 17+ years or so that we could enjoy each other for the first time in our lives. I have been forever Grateful 🙏 to God for this miracle. Dad lived on his own through his 103 birthday; but a fall took his independence away, still surviving to 106 and 8 months. I believe this is what love can do, it makes us rich in blessed relationships and Royal members of the human family of God.
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Wow.
I'm just blown away. Within the first 18 minutes these two geniuses have, while speaking very precisely in general terms, described how my life fell apart in the past 6 years. And even why some of the areas of my major difficulty were so problematic before that. Now I have to start the video over and hope I'm able to understand any potential solutions they might present.
There are answers for you, and some things that can help may very well be here. I'll pray that God will guide you in repairing your life! Have courage, and hope!
I know you mean, after listening to them I even find myself wanting to talk like them, I have to work on my vocabulary.
@@slevinchannel7589 Scientism is stupid. Only 1.6% of Americans with college educations (of the 27% total) are atheists. the other 2.4% of Americans who are atheists have high school or less education. Mindless matter in meaningless motion is rejected by our very natures worldwide. (PEW Research, 2019).
@@slevinchannel7589 Why not present the argument? What I wrote is factual and true. Scientism is an utter abuse of science and ironically has no scientific proof. Read more.
@@slevinchannel7589 Please try that again grammatically so we can know what you're talking about. And I'm not a fideistic protestant fundamentalist but have study philosophy of religion and its intellectual warrant at a university level so please try to up the level of content.
Great discussion. Understanding that there will always be a structure of Haves and Have-nots, having tasks of giving of ones self will take a lifetime.
i love you dr. Peterson....b/c you always -clearly explain- what I BELIEVE nobody else ALWAYS agrees. also i learned much from your lectures.
1 "look for peace -Not a Win" i stopped arguing i only express what i see. i get along better and teach some
This guy is full of wisdom. Will definitely be seeking out more of him and his thoughts, his work
The stored cultural capital concept is something I had been thinking about but didn't really had the ability to completely explain. I'm still amazed that these discussions are free to watch.
Yeah this isn't Overton. The WEF is starting to move against planned obsolescence and the liquidation of social capital, so thankfully we can expect this to be of growing focus.
Its really a shame how the USA allowed its profitable private mass transit and newspapers to be liquidated by the vulture funds and myopic divestment.
Did you miss all the ads? 😁
I think they miss the value of stored *actual* capital.
The West is running out of wealth to share. Shared wealth is the bedrock of liberal democracy. Scarcity is the handmaiden of despotism.
@@gilgamecha Why do you only watch the ads, adverts, whatever yourself? Why is that then?
@@gilgamecha you can skip the ads.
Wonderful conversation. I have followed and greatly appreciated JBP for many years (as I guess do many other viewers given the many glowing comments) but I only "discovered" Yoram more recently and find his calm and clear explanations, based on what seems to be a vast and deep understanding, to be so very helpful and illuminating. I bought and am reading his latest book. Another wonderful source of wisdom. Deep gratitude to these two gentlemen for sharing their conversation!
Agreed, I also discovered them in this order, and am definitely adding Yoram to my teachers list
SIR, YOUR WISDOM AND ABILITY TO GUIDE US IS SIMPLY PROFOUND AND GOD-SENT. I'M IN AWE.
I wish I could catch a live stream with Jordan Peterson. I would love to thank him. And let him know that him never giving up has helped so so many more than he could ever know. I would love to shake your hand Jordan and thank you so much for everyone. No words or actions could ever thank him enough. He is the stones to the foundation of so many people. A man we needed in this time and age. And it's ok to show emotions when thanked. He is so amazing.
Some day you will be the "stones" for others. Don't sell yourself short. You clearly have a gift for expressing yourself through writing, and I sincerely doubt that I'm the only one whose shared that with you. Don't take it for granted.
I once heard a pastor imagine the exercise of getting into Satan's mind to attempt to destroy humanity. What, the pastor asked, would you target in order to destroy humanity, if you were Satan? The FAMILY, of course. If you cannot even say what a biological man and woman are, you are under that warfare. I loved Dr. Peterson's illumination of the Tower of Babel story at work here -- in that we don't even speak the same language as a result of attempting to build our own ideological and linguistic towers.
I also love Hazony's outline of what resistance looks like. Go to church or synagogue and work to learn and participate in a life of conservation and transmission.
Both Dr Y and Peterson gave a great dialog why cant freedom of speech between both sides be like this CIVIL RESPECTFUL AND CALM!
Great conversation. I learn so much from listening to your talks and conversations.
I love Peterson and Hazony's affirmation of learning from those who lived before us. History, properly understood, is incredibly valuable in helping communities and nations find their way. As 1 Corinthians 10:11 says, "Now these things happened to them (the early Jewish nation) as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come." The Bible is a great source for learning history and our possibilities of relation to our Maker.
You quote the Bible, but you have the minimal level of critical thinking.
This b.s. interview full of ... information and opinion.
It is a shame tbat you have no clue.
Watch it again snd again and look for thing you do not agree.
For example, it is unforgiven to say:
You can not be a developed person unless you started a family.
Really? Hiw about the piests, the monks etc.
It is such an insult....
Peterson just sits there and ....
Of course there is a money ......
Mark, I agree JP is great. I just wanted to point out Corinthians 10 is referring to all 12 Tribes of Israel, not just the tribe of Judah. More often than not the lost ten tribes get left out of the picture. Judah is roughly only 10 percent of the ancient Hebrew people coming out of Egypt.
The Bible is the manual from God on how to live.He is the one who created the universe and knows how it ought to function. Critical thinking outside of biblical values is just a broken cistern that holds no water.
@@kezdotanulo9160 Monks don't quite help society get on well as a whole do they now? And yes, we need more FAMILIES giving birth to actually productive offspring and install a decent value system in them so that they can interface with their world in a healthy way for them and others in it.
@@proudatheist2042 Such as?
I feel so blessed to be in an age where I can listen to two very intelligent human beings in a discussion and not have to be in the same room to do so.
The internet is a great tool, with a great wealth of knowledge, if only one makes use of it well.... I completely agree with you. Same as music, you can listen to an entire orchestra, and not have to be in a opera hall or theatre; quite wonderful really. Godbless
True that. I wonder how long we will have the freedom to listen. This topic is sooo depressing. I'm glad i'm so old, and feel sorry for the young.
@@tonycarnovale7984 the freedom is always there, friend. The desire and real knowledge of it's utility needs some work. Why listen to anyone, when X, Y, and/or Z? Why talk? Why try..?
We go through the depressing seriously so the young don't have to accidentally. there's no way to make that better than to just do it and hope it works out. Not doing it seems far worse. maybe something about taking arbitrary responsibility upon yourself because you have what it takes to recognize it as such. depressing though, undeniably.
makes no sense, the libraries were equally good and so all book shops over the years long before internet... you are just lazy to learnt to find things on your own.. that is all
To confuse marx with morality is equivalent to confusing christianty with cathoIicism
My wife and I recently had a child. It became immediately abundantly clear how much we needed family to help raise the child and to guide us to be better parents. It brought my family together more than anything ever has. It also made it obvious how individual atomization has been profoundly destructive to modern society.
I can’t begin to explain how much my perspective has shifted over the years. I still am a staunch classic liberal idealist, and my skepticism regarding conservatives has evolved over the years. It went from vitriol in my early teens, to skepticism in my late teens, to neutrality in my early 20s, to sympathy during the trump years. Now as a parent I am convinced that it’s an essential component of a functioning family and by extension society.
Liberalism and all great ideas, institutions, norms and discoveries cannot exist without a preserving impulse. The greatest values of conservatism are its pragmatism, preservation of tradition, communal focus, and the communication of a cultural historical lineage.
I agree with your dialog and discussion on marriage. The most important thing people tend to forget is that family life without God does not work. Praying together, reading the Psalter together gives a couple spiritual closeness that is lasting through good and bad times. I learned that from my parents and it was the most precious gift they gave me for life. I am now 82 years old and I still love them for their precious gift that I passed on to my children and grandchildren.
Love how Jordan has been slowly building up on these topics. Strategic well thought out releases to these videos. Thank you for helping me stay informed on this world and how I should combat it. Knowledge is power
he is leading you down the path of non-action. He is beholden to the same powers he seemingly decries. Connecting dots where it’s convenient and never the ones that need to be connected.
@@addictedtohisgrace cool circle point, noted. Thanks
@@addictedtohisgrace Let's hear your action plan. Not enough know what he is talking about yet or even know who he is. We need numbers.
@@gillps5130 the action plan is to do what all of pur ancestors, save the boomers, did with fraudsters and tricksters.
@@addictedtohisgrace What is a "path of non-action?" Which powers is he beholden to, and which dots need to be connected? I don't understand what you mean.
We love you Jordan, genuinely. I know you struggle more than someone like me can truly understand but you genuinely do have a positive impact.
I was raised by parents that always said "whatever makes you happy". I was a pretty happy self described "liberal" from the 80s through around 2015. I have come to question what that word now means in todays culture. I am not conservative...but what does one that used to define themselves as a liberal now define themselves? I have very little tolerance for wokeism. As a liberal it was always VITALLY IMPORTANT that being a liberal means "being cool". Being "cool" meant you dont' tell other people what to do or how to live or what to say or not say and censorship and religion and overly legalistic systems become intolerable as they repress individual expression... which for a liberal USED TO BE the holy grail. Indivuals over groups. Individual expression over conformtity or collectivism. The "woke" mentality is not about live and let live AT ALL. Its very much a secularized version of puritanical behavior where they demand a kind of conformity to an orthodoxy that makes them somehow more virtuous or "good" and anyone that even questions what they think or say is considered "bad". Just as puritans ran to claim someone who was a little TOO independent in how they spoke or behaved as a "witch"...anyone who even questions one bullet point of the woke agenda is immediately labelled a "racist" even if they are black or a "homophone" even if they are gay. Its a kind of religious fundamentalism that somehow developed without any cohesive religious text. Whatever these people want to label themselves I really dont care...but to call themselves "a liberal" completely turns any definition of liberalism from the 20th century on its head. There is NOTHING live and let live about these people. They seek you out to cram their morality down your throat and call you names if you don't immediately agree with every insane thing they say. They are even more abhorrent than the most vehement christian fundamentalist I would encounter in the 80s. Completely unable to handle the idea of free and autonomous thinking and self expression. They only ALLOW freedom as long as it agrees with their own beliefs and interpretations of the world.
SPOT ON.
Yes. Neo- Marxist agenda. A hate based system of envy and revenge.
@William Lukach
You don't have to have a label. I understand where you're coming from, and it's good enough that you got to the point where you're at.
leftist liberals went extreme and now liberals are filled with communists, because the elite in western world wants more power, so they just use extreme leftist liberals to gain more power.
So its basically corruption, and fueled by power and money, and angry leftist people are happy because they can hate something the elite allows them to hate.
the sane leftist people are still leftist, but you dont hear about normal leftist people in the news anymore because it dosnt benefit the elite, and the elite owns the media.
So a small group of the world went insane, and media focused on them, most parts of the world is still sane.
so corruption is the root cause of the worlds problem as it always have been trough out of history.
and what are the goals, om starting to think that the elite wants a communist dictatorship, but thats my thoughts about it, i might be wrong.
I love homophones, call me crazy -- suet and sweat, night and knight, sun and son -- they are my world.
I love listening to your videos Jordan and your all your guests that you have I feel like I learn a lot. I share as well. Much love and blessings!!!
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This was a brilliant and profound conversation. That is all.
If it weren't for Jordan Peterson, I wouldn't be in my current relationship where we are both aiming at taking the necessary steps of starting a family. I wouldn't be in a job such as teaching where I'm forced to move out of my comfort zone and into the role of an adult. I'm very grateful for it all.
This was possibly my favorite episode of yours.
Yes !!! This is so important. Please teach your children the values that made America a strong and good nation.
KKK, Mafia , McDonalds , the electric chair
the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki , General Custer, smallpox blankets to keep the natives snug and warm , apple pie
until the woke Marxist ,Rupert Murdoch ,come along and sacked poor Tucker
Wow! That 'feeling honored' part toward the end is so true! I have been married and divorced 3 times to men that didn't share my faith and/or political values (huge mistake) and was continually devalued by all three -- always the butt of the joke, rarely given any acknowledgement of making any significant contribution to the marriage -- and it wears on one. Lots more complicated stuff in the history of this part of my story. But the last experience I had determined to be my last -- 'til death do part us and all that. Then my wonderful son died of brain cancer and my daughter's son (of whom we had shared custody) came to live me. When presented with the choice of my grandson or the marriage, there was no decision to be made but to endure the humiliation and failure of yet another divorce. But, how wonderful to have this bit of information now, nearly 10 years later, to understand in some part what happened.
What kind of man would have you chose between himself and your grandson?
@@KittraKittra There are lots of men who would do so. And not necessarily for selfish reasons. It boils down to this; What do you want?
And what are you willing to give to get what you want? The answers of
which are not known until the situation changes enough to affect one
personally. So I would ask another question, What kind of woman
would hold her man in contempt for not wanting to be a parent again?
When they likely both have adult children and grandchildren?
@@KittraKittra I have a good friend, Simon, who I've known since 1992.
He had 3 daughters from his 1st marriage, 1 daughter from his 2nd, who is now 16.
His 3rd & current wife gave him the ultimatum, " It's either she goes, or I go".
Simon continues to be a dad to his now 20 year old stepson from his current wife, yet she absolutely refuses to be a stepmother to his daughter.
Not fair on that poor girl that she can't have a much needed relationship with her dad
Wow, that is a story. 🌸🌸🌸 Hope you have a lovely week.
I'm so sorry you lost your son. I admire that you care for your grandson. Blessings. ♡♡♡
man Jordan has this way of looking at things that points out all the mistakes I made in my life, and points a way out of them at the same time.
He continues to be the voice of sanity today JBP 🇮🇪❤
SIR, YOUR LECTURES ARE RIGHT ON AND EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO LEARN. YOU SIR SHOULD BE IN CONTROL OF ALL EDUCATION OF OUR CHILDREN AND ALL THE IMMORAL BOARDS THAT FORCE THIS INSANE WOKENESS.
Agree 100%.
I’m so glad we have someone to help us explore the deeper issues
This is a profound conversation. So much wisdom.
Another good conversation. Thank you Jordan, and my hat off to the Dr too.
I think this is so important and valuable. My wife and I are atheists and have a 6 year old daughter and I am really struggling because I do want to impart these values and traditions and I'm realizing just trying to tell her all of them isn't sufficient. I need the type of pre-existing architecture that a church has. I've been hoping to find an answer in some local civic groups of some sort. My daughter is in girl scouts and I think that serves some of the purpose.
Is your position atheist or anti-theist? I mean, do you just not believe in a god, or are you actively opposed to anyone believing in a god? Just curious.
@@shuumai i dont even know what "opposed to anyone believing in God" means
@@john1425 I'm not sure either. Do you appreciate that some people benefit from their belief, no matter how false you perceive their belief to be? Or maybe, do you feel that totally eradicating the concept of a god is for the greater good of all?
I guess the distinction really doesn't matter.
I've expressed a similar thought to yours before, that it would be nice to have something like church without it needing to be church. Although I'm not opposed to religion as long as it isn't harming people. In fact, it seems to help many people directly and indirectly.
I'm left to wonder if there is a divine intelligence or some life force that is maybe unlike any of the common conceptions of it. But I'm just a tiny speck in the vastness of the known let alone the unknown! I guess that means I lean agnostic.
@@shuumai i see lots of value in religion but i don't believe in God
@@john1425 it's pretty interesting that so many people throughout time have been internally compelled to seek god(s). I guess that makes god(s) very human.
From early life I was surrounded by Christian people, although my father believed in allowing us to choose freely and wasn't a Christian himself. My mother was Buddhist and my grandmother, who I never knew, was Jewish. I guess I'm a mixed bag!
It's intriguing that prayer, like meditation, can positively affect the mind if not the actual function of the brain. I'm not sure where that leads though.
He who has all the answers hasn't been asked all the questions!
This has been the most gratifying and insightful discussion I've heard all year long watching this channel. My perspective of relationships, politics, generational gaps, cultural changes, and conservatism has been adjusted for the better. An attitude that can shape and guide us all to be something more than the sum of our parts. Thanks for doing this, fellas. It's damn important work amongst a sea of distraction and emptiness.
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Agreed, felt like I was almost there but not quite in the last bunch of podcasts, but a lot of stuff really clicked on this one!
Unfortunately, the Catholic Church is in the process of BEING DESTROYED by the very body that should be upholding its values.
JBP is unique in that his life is the actualization of the concept of the hero's journey which is what he has taught. The hero is called to action and goes through a series of trials and comes back to his society to enrich us with the wisdom accumulated through his trials and successes. What an amazing story.
Amen
How many books and how many hours of thinking and studying would you have to do to discover and understand this much information in this almost 2 hours video?
Try reading a few of AynRand books ,may be what you’re looking for.
God bless Dr Hazony for saying what most of us knew intuitively. Most people today especially in the West can’t wait to abstain their obligation from looking after their parents in old ago. In England the Brits import foreigners to look after their parents in care homes then complain about how much immigration there is in their own country…… work that one out!!
In the Greek culture we look after our own parents and they rarely go into care unless absolutely necessary as a last resort. It’s known as respect, thus giving something back to our parents (as Dr Peterson says….. honour) and indeed to the wider community 🙏🙏🙏
I like the argument for traditional family and placement in social hierarchy context. It makes sense that this would provide meaning and purpose, even though I've lived the majority of my life outside these parameters. Makes me see what I've missed and what I could yet find ...
Happy that you have received such an important insight.
Absolutely phenomenal and vital discussion. One of the biggest problems with the conservative movement is our general lack of political leaders who can articulate what the left is actually doing and debunk their attempts to define us. I think many folks kind of instinctually know there is something wrong, but it must be plainly spoken in a public forum if we ever hope to achieve a clear vision folks can rally to. Well done.
Thank you for your comment. It describes our situation precisely: "a general lack fo political leaders who can articulate what the left is actually doing.... "
Exactly. That is very well said.
The anti-American Republican Party continues to pander corporations/Big Ag/Big Pharma/MIC etc. The party is disgusting and a blight on this planet. The Dems are worse!
Not just the leaders but the population in general have trouble understanding many political and economic concepts because they have been dumbed down from public school education and/or just don't have the time/drive to understand what challenges society currently faces
Well said Frankb821
This conversation was so wild and so friggin amazing. Absolutely great.
I met Yoram Hazony. I was good friends with his son. Amazing family!
Pressed like before watching. That’s how much the title resonated. His speed Dr. Peterson 🔥
Do you like little hats?
Thank you for the interesting and thoughtful conversation.
All the people benefited from Jordan. Jordan will definitely receive their blessings
For me at least, this has got to be the most profound Peterson episode that I have ever watched. Here we have, presented to us on a silver platter, the most compelling case for conservatism in these turbulent times of woke ideals and idealogues. It was a real pleasure viewing this, and to those not familiar with the Peterson ethos, I would recommend starting here. Absolutely brilliant.
Thank you both. As an ex "progressive" the concepts explained here help me to understand what "life style" choices caused significant difficulties for myself and my children. We have been in a cultural war since the 1960s, most secular thinking people being brain washed into narcissist life styles that bore little sweet fruit. Thank you a thousand times. May you trigger a renaissance of sanity.
Amen
Agree. I just exited the progressive movement in 2021. Its as if the drugs wore off. I am fascinated at how I could have said/believed such ridiculously stupid things.
@@Momofukudoodoowindu because the woke movement preys on your natural desire to help people who are seemingly in trouble and it preys on your desire to make the world a better place. Look up videos on how narcissists act and then compare those behaviors to how leaders/people of the liberal & woke movement treat everyone around them. It's exactly the same. I encourage you to keep un-woking yourself and help those around you do the same.
We've been in a big government mentality since the 60s, and big government engenders greed, jealousy, and lust for power.
@@darylfoster7944 we've been in a big government mentality since the "New Deal" of the 1930s.
So grateful for the deep work Dr. Hazony has done...I want to connect the dots and have ordered his books as one step closer. Great conversation, Dr. Peterson. Thank you.
This is the MOST profound conversation we can have. Dr. Peterson and Dr. Hazony are speaking of the very architecture of life that has supported our civilizations throughout the millennia.
Sky!!!!!!!! Don't be shy let's not turn a blind eye to the why. Thanks
These two understand the gravity of our situation.
This has been quite an enlightening talk. Thank you both!
Try reading books by Ayn Rand.
@@normandolinic2044 **Joe here on my gf's phone/YT Account**
Respectfully I would have to say I disagree, presuming I am correct in my conclusion(s) in regards to the unspoken insinuation/your meaning behind recommending Ayn Rand to the OP- that as such being that there is a/are parallel(s), as well as a correlation or coming recurring theme between both said persons/works. Certainly there are commonalities and loose and broadly generalized similarities- but ultimately (at least in my opinion), they are of two vastly different belief structures and ideologies, holding very different principles and values as the ultimate/supreme- and thus, their motivations and goals are completely different- and as a result their attitudes, personalities and outlooks are dramatically different and/or varied. Ayn Rand was very secularized in that she didn't believe in God or deity/theology- not in any instance that it weakened that idolatrous pedestal she put the businessman/productivity creator/money man that was her ultimate person, structure(s), goal(s) and ultimate virtue(s) and aspiration(s) as a result of that value system/prioritization of what matters most in society)life.
If you read Atlas Shrugged- completely front to back all the way through in a short time frame so as to digest it all in a continual linear chain of events of a larger story/odyssey- the deistic way she worships and creams herself for the boss the job creator as if he/she is God and the only just and right person, as well as the one that gets her legs(the characters', most probably symbolic of what she feels- she ultimately confirms just such a thing in later editions forward/afterwards I can't remember
Dr. Peterson isn't some type of Communist/Socialist in the traditional/routine sense, but he isn't a cold hearted capitalist unmindful and/or unconcerned with peoples' well being and the general welfare of the smaller/greater community and society as a whole.
Least that's a part of my take(s).
God Bless You/Everybody.
@Jordan you are changing the world and people's lives with this content. Please continue producing it. God bless
It’s all apart of the globalists elites plan their puppets are Klaus shwaub and Jobs and Harrari among others who they are well there’s allot of them most likely the usual shadow leaders like the Morgan’s Medici rockefellers and rothchilds and world leaders country’s over , I can’t name every group for sure the ability to hide is what gives them power . They want us chemically castrated so we can’t populate more and without testosterone we won’t have the energy or power to rise up like our ancestors with 10x test would have They want our moral grounding that took us so far erradicated and confused masked under wokness and pushed by their useful idiots the “extreme liberals “ who in the true terms are anything but liberal . And keep us distracted with tv and porn unlike our ancestors who had to stew in their thourghts among the company of friends , leading to them standing up. It’s just like the old Roman saying : “give them bread and games and they will ignore everything else we do” . The devil is in the detail . The world is moving towards feudalism and we are the serfs . The WEF openly talks and publishes its views about how “we will own nothing have no privacy and be happy”. These people have addresses .
You are god, my brother. Dont confuse yourself.
@@civiccc You are a loon, thankfully unrelated to me.
@@gandydancer9710 you'll figure it out someday
@@civiccc YOU won't.
I received so many insights from your conversations.
Thank you.
I appreciate the discussion. It burdens me deeply to know I’m a gay woman and that inherently people group me in with the far left. There are so many gay adults that just want to function like a ‘normal’ person in this country. With patriotism and manners. We are not all the same nor here to destroy the moral fabric of the US.
I can relate to this, I spent 23 years in the military and I have struggled since I left.
Don't know which country you served but thank you. From England.
Thank you for your service!!! Blessings :) ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
Thank you for your service. It's not a job that I could do.
God bless
A few random thoughts:
1. I've always thought that the marriage analogy is a great one, I'm glad that Dr. Hazony mentioned it. Imagine it as more than that, though: a household with parents and children. The parents might represent "opposites" of the political spectrum (a flawed concept to begin with), but what do the children represent?
2. One of the rules at a prior workplace of mine was to *never* discuss politics. Not "do not insult one another in the act of debating political issues," the rule was simply not to discuss it at all. In what kind of society does that need to be a rule? These days, it's one in which the act of engaging in political discourse forces everybody into this mindset: "I must be right about every single detail discussed, I must never compromise, I must never admit my own faults or lack of knowledge, and I must win the debate in a crushing victory." In other words, most people demand to win in a political discussion in the same manner that they demand to "win" in many other areas of life - regardless of whether the victory is well-earned.
3. Many of the problems facing Americans today (I can't speak for other cultures or societies) stem from the aforementioned mindset. They also originate from a lack of understanding of how the issues *actually impact the development of the society they are living in* and, shockingly enough, they even ignore how the issues affect those who are closest to them.
4. An increasing abundance of laws and regulations is only necessary in a society that lacks the concept of respect (and many other virtues) and is not grounded in some kind of higher purpose. Hopefully this concept will take hold in western culture sometime soon, but I'm not holding my breath.
@@Dude0000 Interesting. Two political parties (which are, in truth, just imperfect coalitions of ideas that are not logically consistent) create a society. Less than ideal, hence our current situation.
"Self government won't work without self discipline"
I'm ten minutes in and completely blown away 🤯 Bravo gentlemen 👏👏👏
30:40 "..and that's what all your idiot teachers are telling you to do" 😅😅 God bless 😂
I am loving the chord of firewood behind Brother Peterson.