Is it Possible to Beat Pokemon Emerald with Just a Sunkern?

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2022
  • 30 Base stats. In everything. Worst in the game. And that's the only Pokemon we're going to be using. Fun times.
    I stream at twitch.tv/Jrose11
    Edited by: SimplyAJ ( / simplyaj )
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  • @DannOfSteel
    @DannOfSteel Před rokem +2420

    Ah, the Sunkern cost fallacy

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Před rokem +85

      You gave me the biggest groan and eye roll for a while.

    • @MisterPuck
      @MisterPuck Před rokem +73

      Take my like and get out.

    • @lightningv46
      @lightningv46 Před rokem +32

      ...get out

    • @lemeres2478
      @lemeres2478 Před rokem +41

      I've seen many a fool stuck at the game center spending their last pokedollar due to that.

    • @AlwaysRobert
      @AlwaysRobert Před rokem +10

      God damn it

  • @thisbox
    @thisbox Před rokem +1471

    1:00:38
    "We're gonna lead with Sunkern"
    I'd be concerned if a solo run about Sunkern didn't include having Sunkern as the lead.

    • @paulinet68
      @paulinet68 Před rokem +62

      i didn't notice how long this video was until i saw the comment and realized I'm an hour and 10 minutes in X)
      but yeah i thought the exact same! there were _soooo_ many alternatives, I just couldn't believe it!

    • @ChrrolloDI
      @ChrrolloDI Před rokem +82

      "Now guys, I have a very good reason to lead with my HM slave."

    • @Tynamite843
      @Tynamite843 Před rokem +4

      😂 nice one

    • @SpLaShPwNz
      @SpLaShPwNz Před rokem

      ,8sß​s@@paulinet68 ooo I o op oop on
      a,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @meevs
    @meevs Před rokem +804

    I feel like "gets one shot by a resisted giga drain from a sunken after just one growth" is a good reason to add slugma to the challenge run list lol

    • @MichaelSotoCE
      @MichaelSotoCE Před rokem

      Lol pathetic slug

    • @tylerryandaughtry
      @tylerryandaughtry Před rokem +70

      Oof slugma is so bad

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Před rokem

      That's how you die of Slugma

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 Před rokem +60

      I looked at slugmas moveset and the only good non fire moves it gets are rockslide, return and body slam. But slugmas only stat above 40 is special attack. Emerald is probably impossible without double team strats although ruby or sapphire might be possible.

    • @artemisio2807
      @artemisio2807 Před rokem +66

      SLUGMA NUTS

  • @EpixAura
    @EpixAura Před rokem +87

    1:18:39
    "does not match up well against Sunkern at all."
    Almost definitely the first time in history that phrase has been used.

    • @hammerstix5791
      @hammerstix5791 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I love that this statement was immediately followed up with an almost-perfect Sunkern solarbeam sweep

  • @RobKni76
    @RobKni76 Před rokem +663

    Sunkern leveled up against Drake, and I was like "oh no, the badge boost glitch reset!" And then I remembered...

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez Před rokem +161

      That's how you know you've been watching him too long lmao

    • @GrayBeans
      @GrayBeans Před rokem +32

      Felt

    • @MariTheNon
      @MariTheNon Před rokem +41

      you know it's bad when leveling up is a bad thing
      gen 1 is just so confusing

  • @cyphate
    @cyphate Před rokem +1032

    I always like to think how the crobat feels in these situations, talking to the mightyena after the fight. "yeah I can't believe how hard this sunkern hit me with secret power, I can't see how that can happen. Wait YOU BOOSTED HIS ATTACK HOW MANY TIMES???"

    • @payrysdoscs4903
      @payrysdoscs4903 Před rokem +12

      Lol

    • @chungaplea3323
      @chungaplea3323 Před rokem +106

      "ITS ONE KID WITH THE WORST POKEMON AND YOU DECIDE TO BOOST HIM UNTILL HE CAN ACTUALLY BEAT US?"

    • @KainaX122
      @KainaX122 Před rokem +87

      @@chungaplea3323 “It’s a SUNKERN! You blow on it and it dies! Why would you raise its attack?!?” 😂

    • @chungaplea3323
      @chungaplea3323 Před rokem

      @@KainaX122 "With that kind of strategy, you want us to lose! Do you really want to let those water hippies and their fat wailord take over? Ok, then start using crunch and stop turning random sunkerns into salamences!

    • @dehasim
      @dehasim Před rokem +12

      Highscholl dxd strats

  • @EnteiFled
    @EnteiFled Před rokem +285

    imagine being one of these gym leaders
    you're just completely obligated through your employment to deal with this schizo barging in hundreds of times with his singular sunkern until he eventually makes a joke of you and wins through a series of miraculous flukes

    • @sergiosierra2422
      @sergiosierra2422 Před rokem +13

      Othow if using a save file they will only be battleling for the first time each time

    • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
      @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 Před rokem +6

      Later
      Their serperiors(Gen 5 introduced but Gen 6 contrarian grass type nope rope aka snek joke intended.): Wtf? How did that fricking happen?
      The gym leader: Got Arceus(joke intended) awful luck. I think hitting moves like Horn drill is more likely. Series of flukes and me getting overconfident.
      The serpereriors: understandable.

    • @Cazooka
      @Cazooka Před rokem +6

      @@sergiosierra2422 yeah but it will feel like a deja vu for the npc's

    • @Pyxis10
      @Pyxis10 Před rokem +2

      Honestly I'd feel bad for the sunkern and would see if there was a pokemon abuse hotline I could report to.

    • @pikachuchujelly7628
      @pikachuchujelly7628 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Battle Tower in a nutshell. You fight through hordes of trainers and get a really long streak until some punk gets an insane stroke of luck that ends your streak.

  • @rusticdebris8021
    @rusticdebris8021 Před rokem +109

    I fondly remember a time watching my brother playing Pokemon showdown. He came across an opponent named "Sunkern Man". His team was a single level 100 Sunkern. I remember that national hero today.
    You have embodied his spirit well.

  • @hhjan594
    @hhjan594 Před rokem +376

    So in Gen2 I believe Mirror move will copy almost any move your opponent last used (Like in the Gen2 minimum battles run Blue's Pidgeot mirrors Kenya's curse and got a sweep)
    This got changed in Gen3. The logic is that Mirror move's concept is actually to reflect (pun intended) whatever move you got hit last and use your opponent's moves to hit back.
    In other words, Mirror move can only work on moves that you got targeted on.
    Growth is a self-target move, you do not "Growth" your opponent, you growth yourself. Therefore it will not be Mirror Moved starting in Gen3.
    Attract is a move that targets the opponent, so you can mirror move attract.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 Před rokem +24

      That’s exactly how it works. Mirror Move can never copy a status move that targets the user, be it a boosting move, a healing move or something wacky like Substitute or Destiny Bond, but it can copy status moves that target the opponent like Attract.

    • @velvetbutterfly
      @velvetbutterfly Před rokem +1

      @@rainpooper7088 what about something like Explosion?

    • @firebladenut
      @firebladenut Před rokem +2

      @@velvetbutterfly id imagine yes it would assuming you survived and the opponent had another pokemon. But could be wrong

    • @saltyralts
      @saltyralts Před rokem +1

      How about Destiny Bond? I don't remember if it's a status effect inflicted on the user or the opponent.

    • @hhjan594
      @hhjan594 Před rokem +8

      ​@@velvetbutterfly explosion would not work because the new Pokemon that came out has not used any moves yet.

  • @BigRobertsons
    @BigRobertsons Před rokem +158

    from bulbapedia: "Mirror Move will fail if no moves were targeted at the user"
    so I guess because Growth wasn't being used at Swablu, Mirror Move failed

    • @soninhodev7851
      @soninhodev7851 Před rokem +10

      yup, Growth only affects the user, and has no target. So since Swablu wasn't the target of Growth, because Growth only targets the user, then Mirror Move failed.

    • @HimitsuYami
      @HimitsuYami Před rokem

      Was gonna say this but looks like you beat me to it

  • @SuperGamerNinja74
    @SuperGamerNinja74 Před rokem +606

    It's awesome to have a series like Jrose's which is, respectfully, anti-hardcore. The pokemon runs nowadays seem to be moving more and more towards hardcore rulesets and difficult romhacks, so runs like this where you're not doing calcs, showing yourself changing plans, and struggling a lot is nice and chill to have

    • @Infindox
      @Infindox Před rokem +85

      In a way, that makes him more hardcore, because he's NOT using calc.

    • @SuperGamerNinja74
      @SuperGamerNinja74 Před rokem +72

      @@Infindox I can think of fewer things more hardcore than not saving between E4 members and failing hundreds of tries before you level up

    • @Jeff_Biden
      @Jeff_Biden Před rokem +10

      @@SuperGamerNinja74 gayrose11

    • @luvalon6721
      @luvalon6721 Před rokem +16

      @@Jeff_Biden What?

    • @silveriasilva5867
      @silveriasilva5867 Před rokem +27

      Beating emerald with just a sunkern is the hardcore enough 🤣🤣

  • @jackzuck
    @jackzuck Před rokem +42

    Someone's probably already pointed this out, but you can get two TM's for Return. If you get the Meteorite after beating Maxie 1 and give it to the scientist in Fallarbor town, he'll give you a Return TM. The other more well known Return TM is the one you get from the old man in Pacifidlog town.

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs Před rokem +63

    Sunflora really deserved a mega evolution or a third evolution. It’s another one of those sad Pokémon where it sucks in the game but it’s so cute you want to use it. I remember watching that contest episode of the anime so many times on my VHS, and it was my moms favourite Pokémon. Funny childhood memories.

    • @Aliyah_666
      @Aliyah_666 Před rokem +5

      Idk... sunflora actually has a decent movepool and a not unserviceable special attack. Certainly has some potential use especially now with terastalizing.

    • @nolongeraperson
      @nolongeraperson Před 6 měsíci +1

      Especially since Megaflora is a word. Get on it, Gamefreak.

    • @tonyt3955555
      @tonyt3955555 Před měsícem

      its not that bad if you set up sunny day with another poke before it.

  • @JP54704
    @JP54704 Před rokem +69

    Sunkern is the weakest pokemon... that have something that resembles a movepool. Sure, there are weaker mons, but they all have 1-2 damaging moves at best and that's it.
    And that's why I believe Sunkern is more interesting to watch, because it has some level of variation in strats, while still being very weak.

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 Před rokem +8

      Weakest pokemon Statswise.
      Before wishiwashi in gen 7 had even worse stats

    • @MatthewCampbell765
      @MatthewCampbell765 Před rokem +9

      It's the weakest Pokemon in terms of total base stats. It's not necessarily the weakest pokemon overall, however.

    • @dograttargod
      @dograttargod Před rokem +2

      Would beldum be the worst pokemon in terms of movepool then?

    • @SquallLionhart409
      @SquallLionhart409 Před rokem +4

      @@dograttargod I mean, Caterpie's only two moves until gen4 were tackle and string shot. Take Down is better than those. Beldum also has better stats and typing too. Gen 5+ starts giving Caterpie SOME options, and I don't know about other modern pokemon.

    • @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160
      @cyanideytandcuriousseadogg4160 Před rokem +1

      @@SquallLionhart409 Babei pusdeo legends like Beldum(Final form is a metagross), Larvitar(final form is tyranitar), and and bagon(final form is a salamence) are supposed to be weak. That’s why these Pokémon have stats that compare to legendaries to make up for the pain without something like Slaking(which is technically a pusdeo legend) being ruined by the god awful truant(the Pokémon with this ability waste every second turn their own doing jack flummery. Also who the frick put a censor on this account?) ability. Yes Durant can make the ability work with entrainment to give it to opponents and enable some farther funny strats but it was meant to be an ability that illuminate(All it does is increase wolf pokemon encounter rate) has more useage than in competitive Pokémon battles.

  • @jacobterkel1851
    @jacobterkel1851 Před rokem +583

    Nothing like a Jrose vid at 1am, loving the regular uploads lately!

    • @siggyxlegiit
      @siggyxlegiit Před rokem +15

      I was just about to go to bed but it looks like I’m staying up late!

    • @willlllllllb
      @willlllllllb Před rokem +5

      period

    • @khaluu2000
      @khaluu2000 Před rokem +11

      It’s 12 am here, we’re here together with you bro

    • @YOSSARIAN313
      @YOSSARIAN313 Před rokem +10

      He'd got an editor now so his channel is a functional business instead of a hobby

    • @the_bug_bus3882
      @the_bug_bus3882 Před rokem +2

      Same here in Europe at breakfast time 👌

  • @Eroil
    @Eroil Před rokem +302

    Hey jrose, there's actually a very quick way to level up in Emerald, while the vs seeker doesn't exist you can rebattle trainers using the pokenav. How it works is that for the trainers you have registered in your pokenav, each of them might want to rebattle you when you enter their route. If you just go in and out of their route very quickly, you can rebattle them a lot and level up very quickly. I recommend route 117, pretty sure that's the fastest

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ Před rokem +58

      I'd be very surprised if he didn't know that.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před rokem +194

      It's just not as consistent as Vs. Seeker

    • @olivernguyen1709
      @olivernguyen1709 Před rokem +9

      that would be nice if it was guaranteed.

    • @sumas250
      @sumas250 Před rokem +13

      @@Jrose11 wanted to say do the reporters, but I guess you would need the gym badge for that ^^

    • @nenstar3228
      @nenstar3228 Před rokem +9

      I usually battle the interviewers with Magneton and Exploud to gain experience. Not sure if @jrose would consider that using another pokemon since u need two to initiate the battle

  • @scoobiusmaximus9508
    @scoobiusmaximus9508 Před rokem +113

    I'm sure the Steven battle would have been fun, since he starts off with a Skarmory that double resists Grass and has Toxic and STAB Aerial Ace.

    • @raikaria3090
      @raikaria3090 Před rokem +44

      I think that's the reason why we're playing Emerald here instead of Ruby or Sapphire. I... don't think Steven would be doable. You can't set up on Skarmory because Toxic and you only get one chance to bypass it. And then there's also Metagross; which resists or is immune to literally every move Sunkern can learn, and I don't see Sunkern taking Meteor Mash very well. Hidden Power Fire might be a requirement to make Steven possible.
      Let's put it this way; there's a reason why JRose didn't fight postgame Steven. Because that's Champion Steven with higher levels; and that Skarmory would make things even less possible.

    • @scoobiusmaximus9508
      @scoobiusmaximus9508 Před rokem +2

      @@raikaria3090 In Ruby or Sapphire it might become possible just by being level 100, although he got close to that already to beat Drake. In Emerald since it's postgame with much higher levels I don't actually think it would be possible, but sometimes Jrose manages to do runs that I think are impossible.

    • @HannibalKantter
      @HannibalKantter Před rokem +13

      @@scoobiusmaximus9508 No, in Ruby and Sapphire it's not posible. There is literally 0 chances of Sunkern defeating R/S Steven, even at lvl 100. You don't seem to understand how type effectiveness works. You won't even get past Skarmory, even with a Full Ivs Modest 252Sp.Attack Sunkern. You have an Sp.attack of 200? Well, your STAB grass attacks are basically hitting said Skarmory with an Sp.Attack of 50.

    • @loulou3676
      @loulou3676 Před rokem +23

      @@HannibalKantter Obligatory mention: it's always *technically* possible with Double Team/Reflect, it would just be miserable and completely up to RNG

    • @inxy4785
      @inxy4785 Před rokem +5

      @@loulou3676 Or female Sunkern with attract.

  • @wereoctopus
    @wereoctopus Před rokem +59

    I know you're much more familiar with Gen 1 and this isn't meant to be some 'optimised' run, but Brawly's Meditite's only attacking move is Focus Punch (its other moves are Bulk Up and dual screens).
    So yes, Bullet Seed is always safe, but you could have also used Brawly's potion turn to set up Ingrain or an additional Growth.

  • @samrobertmuik3495
    @samrobertmuik3495 Před rokem +43

    A 29 year old majoring in neuroscience, struggling with his education while balancing his acting profession, sits playing Pokemon Crystal while relaxing with the Man Jrose when he says "I don't want to level up past my problems"..... I felt that

    • @VTWS
      @VTWS Před 11 měsíci +5

      Well now I can’t sleep because I can’t stop thinking about whether Sunkern has a nervous system

  • @Utsu-P_Enjoyer
    @Utsu-P_Enjoyer Před rokem +39

    Sunkern is unironically one of my favorite grass pokemon, I wish it wasn't such a bad pokemon and that sunflora actually was stronger or at least was a grass/fire type or evolved into one. That would make that line so unique and cool

    • @OmegaTyrant
      @OmegaTyrant Před rokem +9

      Weird how we're eight generations in and we still haven't gotten a Fire/Grass type.

    • @Utsu-P_Enjoyer
      @Utsu-P_Enjoyer Před rokem +5

      @@OmegaTyrant Yeah they only exist in the romhacks and fan made games. In pokemon insurgence sunflora actually mega evolves into a fire/grass type.

    • @joshuablackmon939
      @joshuablackmon939 Před rokem +2

      @@OmegaTyrant oh you want flaming razor leaf , forest fire spin , lava drain , and Diamond scale . fire/grass type , super weak , but super strong ..

    • @joshuablackmon939
      @joshuablackmon939 Před rokem

      oh no....... it would have no counters.. thats why .. cause fire would keep it from being super effected and grass would keep water from being super effective...

    • @OmegaTyrant
      @OmegaTyrant Před rokem +16

      @@joshuablackmon939 Fire/Grass is still weak to Flying, Rock, and Poison, and is walled by Dragon and other Fire types. Far from "no counters".

  • @rojopantalones9791
    @rojopantalones9791 Před rokem +84

    So, I played Emerald before I played GSC, so when I found a Sunkern in the Safari Zone extension of the post game, I was fascinated. I kept leveling it and leveling it, all the way to level 70.
    Then, after farming sun stones for a Bellossom and having this Sunkern in the party, I saw that it could evolve. Lemme just say that 12 year old me was very disappointed.

    • @emymagkuchen
      @emymagkuchen Před rokem +19

      I thought sunflora was SUCH a cool pokemon when I was a kid... I always wanted to have one, well, until I had one 😂

    • @rojopantalones9791
      @rojopantalones9791 Před rokem +20

      @@emymagkuchen I will say, Sunflora with Chlorophyll can one shot Primal Groudon with Grass Knot.

    • @Acacius1992
      @Acacius1992 Před rokem +6

      Am I the only one who unironicly love Sunflora as a pokemon?

    • @josheboythespeedrunner8491
      @josheboythespeedrunner8491 Před rokem +9

      @@rojopantalones9791 anything can one shot groudon with grass knot

    • @HannibalKantter
      @HannibalKantter Před rokem +8

      @@rojopantalones9791 Wrong. It can one shot normal Groudon, not the Fire type Primal form. Which isn't a feat considering any non-grass Pokémon with Grass Knot can one shot Groudon with Grass Knot too, without being an useless Pokémon like Sunflora is.

  • @TrevCL
    @TrevCL Před rokem +267

    Glad to see all these impossible challenges over the last couple of months! The Red/Blue Solo runs are great, but it’s nice to have some more unique ones to balance it out.

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 Před rokem +2

      disagree. the only reason I am subscribed is because I want red and blue challenges.

    • @Ramsowndaworld
      @Ramsowndaworld Před rokem +5

      I subscribed for jrose

    • @Gabe413
      @Gabe413 Před rokem +3

      @@sameash3153 variety is the spice of life or smt like that.. chill bro

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 Před rokem +1

      @@Gabe413 I'm a simple man

    • @okaykoolaid49
      @okaykoolaid49 Před rokem

      @@sameash3153 You're a drone

  • @andytheguitarist472
    @andytheguitarist472 Před rokem +18

    Sometimes I just love Jroses optimisme. Oh, mega drain made a little dent in the feathers of this insane flying dragon that blast my sunkern into oblivion and wipes it's butt with it.... this seems doable!

  • @Sheldon-senpai
    @Sheldon-senpai Před rokem +24

    Winona's battle made me think about her Altaria.
    In the OG games, Altaria has Dragon Dance at level 33 despite learning it at a much higher level, with Cotton Guard being the "correct" move if she really needed a boosting move.
    However, in the remakes, Altaria not only gets stronger with some level-ups but she can also learn Dragon Dance at level 30, making the original movepool something "legal". What's her non-offensive move again? Oh, yeah, it's Cotton Guard.

  • @Whoami691
    @Whoami691 Před rokem +3

    Flannery: I just became a gym leader of the fire gym!
    Jrose: *Wipes with a sunkern on her first day on the job*

  • @PerhapsOOTMM
    @PerhapsOOTMM Před rokem +8

    I'm glad you save between elite 4 members in these impossible challenges.

  • @TheArgentAgent
    @TheArgentAgent Před rokem +10

    I think the word I picked up on the most throughout this playthrough was 'unfortunately'; everything about Sunkern is indeed unfortunate, as even the u in Sunkern stands for 'unfortunate'.

  • @Friggazee
    @Friggazee Před rokem +7

    It was a questionable change to put Wallace as champion for Emerald. I liked the variety that Steven gave at the end. When playing normally with an on-level team, you'd need some diverse moves and types to take him. Wallace was sort of a higher level repeat of Juan for me.

  • @qhillis
    @qhillis Před rokem +112

    My prediction: Sunkern’s movepool will make it not nearly as bad as it looks on paper

    • @Rattus375
      @Rattus375 Před rokem +26

      But emerald is significantly harder than red/blue. I bet he'll really struggle

    • @wadespencer3623
      @wadespencer3623 Před rokem +45

      @@Rattus375 Yeah, it's not gen 1 where nearly EVERY Pokemon has a terrible moveset.

  • @bconvery571
    @bconvery571 Před rokem +6

    Jrose's videos are the kinda ones that I'd watch each one atleast twice.
    Once to listen and fall asleep to at night and again the next day to see what I missed out on.

  • @itsBoof
    @itsBoof Před rokem +105

    Just want to say, I absolutely love this series. Call me crazy, but I download these & listen to them on my daily runs, so much so that I’ve actually started re-watching them from the start (up to Hitmonchan). Just want to say thanks for the amazing content & dedication to these videos, looking forward to this one, though I might save it for part of my longer run on Sunday, thanks again!

    • @alexsantebla2480
      @alexsantebla2480 Před rokem +3

      They help on your runs?? Lately music hasn't been doing it for me so I've been looking for something new to keep me going

    • @Tracker947
      @Tracker947 Před rokem +1

      @@alexsantebla2480 Have you tried with no music before?

    • @SeethingSimp
      @SeethingSimp Před rokem

      @@alexsantebla2480 Sissy hypno is pretty energizing, assuming you also have a mental defect

  • @swimmerkat3965
    @swimmerkat3965 Před rokem +4

    It’s weird seeing bullet seed doing no damage. In the mystery dungeon games, it’s one of the most insanely overpowered moves ever. It’s long range and it does a crapload of damage every time. I’ve knocked out boss Pokémon in one turn using bullet seed because every hit does over 200 damage. The only multi-hit move that I’ve seen so more damage is bonemerang on a marowak. Multi hit moves are incredibly powerful in PMD

  • @FromLaurel
    @FromLaurel Před rokem +32

    Hey @Jrose11 video idea here: It would be interesting to see like an "in-depth" video of like the routes you take in your Red & Blue runs and why. There are a lot of optional routes. misty or rival2 first, gym order, about saving time, getting TM08 even though it takes a battle, your most cursed trainers, maby routes with no mandatory trainers you normally cut out has some story you could show? And other trivia like how you plan your runs / workload / your fastest and slowest RT Runs! : ) Have a good one

    • @aneeshcrao
      @aneeshcrao Před rokem +4

      Watch the Mewtwo record video

  • @stardf29
    @stardf29 Před rokem +6

    So during the Gen II era, in one of my game playthroughs, I really wanted to use Sunkern, as I saw that it could learn Sunny Day, Synthesis, and Giga Drain upon level-up, and then if you evolved it on the same level it learned Giga Drain, the Sunflora would learn Solarbeam, and my young brain at the time thought that would be an awesome moveset (what is type coverage?). I unfortunately did not know at the time how garbage Sunkern's stats were, and actually training it up to Lv. 46 was an utter pain... and the resulting Sunflora, wasn't particularly worth it either.
    I feel like this Sunkern run was a bit of redemption for this little seed, especially with the final moveset being almost the same (but with Growth instead of Synthesis).

  • @sleepy5430
    @sleepy5430 Před rokem +9

    As soon as you said "difficult to beat bulky pokemon with only grass type moves" I thought "Don't Winona and Drake have dragon-flying types?...Oh no... " XD

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 Před rokem +21

    It's amazing how consistently entertaining your content is. Despite the structure and delivery being very similar for every video it just works. Love it JRose!

  • @bariumselenided5152
    @bariumselenided5152 Před rokem +4

    I wanted to say thanks for introducing me to solo and challenge runs. I don’t think I would’ve tried them if I hadn’t had so much fun watching yours. But I finally figured out how to get extra save files in ORAS and I’m doing a beedrill run in alpha sapphire now. It’s been great, and I’ll probably do more. Thanks for doing what you do!

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn Před rokem

      You didn't get introduced by Pikasprey, MDB, nor Goose it?

    • @bariumselenided5152
      @bariumselenided5152 Před rokem +2

      @@ShinyTillDawn honestly, no. I did smallant do some challenge runs, but it was smallant so I just assumed I could never. Jrose made it seem more down to earth somehow, like something I could see myself doing

  • @Bismuth83X
    @Bismuth83X Před rokem +8

    I think it'd be interesting to see a run using only Unown (who can only ever have Hidden Power and Struggle) or Rotom.

  • @forgerofsouls9126
    @forgerofsouls9126 Před rokem +6

    Love how the final boss was the easy fight. Basically gave you a free win due to the strong from the previous elite four member.

  • @Jimbob1337
    @Jimbob1337 Před rokem +43

    Can't wait for the Porygon challenge.
    Also fossil race: which is best - Omastar, Kabutops or Aerodactyl?

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus Před rokem +5

      I've always had a soft spot for Kabutops. Just looks cool.

    • @Jabadamazo
      @Jabadamazo Před rokem +11

      The answer is Aerodactyl lol.

    • @tiffanyhayes4014
      @tiffanyhayes4014 Před rokem

      Kabutops

    • @Eisenwulf666
      @Eisenwulf666 Před rokem +1

      i prefer Omastar, but i'm pretty confident Aerodactyl is just too strong.

    • @ZebNyan96
      @ZebNyan96 Před rokem

      @@Jabadamazo I think it might have some problems against rock types though.

  • @ButterMyPanda
    @ButterMyPanda Před rokem +83

    My prediction: Growth or Some healing move will be absolutely essential. Otherwise: GG

    • @LeCheckmate
      @LeCheckmate Před rokem +5

      Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

    • @ButterMyPanda
      @ButterMyPanda Před rokem +6

      @@LeCheckmate JRose is love. JRose is life.

  • @namespelldwrong9779
    @namespelldwrong9779 Před rokem +19

    While using a magikarp for the mandatory double battles is a decent solution, I've wondered why you dont just catch a duplicate of the pokemon youre using instead. That sounds more like a true solo run to me, but maybe im going insane. Great content as always!

  • @TheCulturedMan34
    @TheCulturedMan34 Před rokem +3

    That voltorb just rubbed salt into that paralysis with that selfdestruct

  • @floogieboogie9054
    @floogieboogie9054 Před rokem +2

    "Unless I were to get insane luck with Attract, it's very difficult to win with my current strategy"
    Yeah, I have that problem even outside of Pokemon. Jrose. haha

  • @lafusion6695
    @lafusion6695 Před rokem +36

    I remember doing an Azurill run and it was pretty fun, it was difficult at times (Tate and Liza, Phoebe was annoying because i couldn´t spam Return and Dusclops used Curse a lot) i finished the run at level 97, i dont know if it is possible to do it at a lower level but hey, it is what it is

  • @javdgevsv6529
    @javdgevsv6529 Před rokem +37

    Great vid I really like the gen 3 challenges. If you’re looking for more ideas i think it would be a fun run if every battle was a double battle but only be able to use plusle and minun

  • @spenceralger8771
    @spenceralger8771 Před rokem +2

    I fell asleep to this video last night after taking 10mg of melatonin and it was honestly a very relaxing and ethereal experience

  • @Parhaimmisto
    @Parhaimmisto Před 28 dny

    Thank you Jrose. Was going through a terrible gallbladder attack and your video helped me get through it. Part way through couldn't really even listen to the video anymore but just seeing you repeat a fight again and again trying to get a win gave me something to focus on. In normal circumstances your videos are top notch entertainment, keep it up.

  • @buck2817
    @buck2817 Před rokem +4

    Thanks for doing these runs, they’re incredibly interesting to see, and I appreciate branching into the later games,
    As there’s only so many Gen 1 runs, and seeing later games feels way fresher.

  • @merry8647
    @merry8647 Před rokem +12

    Honestly, watching you not go for attract against altaria was so frustrating. That was always the best option

    • @joelmorris9694
      @joelmorris9694 Před rokem

      I was also a bit confused as to why he didn't replace Growth with Calm Mind?

    • @merry8647
      @merry8647 Před rokem +3

      @@joelmorris9694 because sunkern can't learn that?

    • @joelmorris9694
      @joelmorris9694 Před rokem +1

      @@merry8647 Well. That makes a lot of sense, then 😅😂

    • @user-ln2go4xp6d
      @user-ln2go4xp6d Před rokem +2

      @@merry8647 don't you know sunflower seeds are renowed for their psychic abilities

  • @ChocoboProduction
    @ChocoboProduction Před rokem +2

    "Thankfully I am male, so I can use Attract".
    ~Jrose11, 2022

  • @SomeGuy712x
    @SomeGuy712x Před rokem +15

    (17:20) Overheat is 140 base power, not 150. But yeah, it's way too much for your seed.
    (29:44) Maybe it's because Attract targeted Swablu, while Growth only buffed the user, so it can only use Mirror Move on something that targets it?
    (33:09) There are certain trainers that get registered in your PokéNav in RSE, and you can get into rematches with them. It's a bit finicky, but usually I find that if you enter and leave the route that the trainer is on rapidly and repeatedly (like, by going up and down across the border between Route 104 and Rustboro, for example), this greatly increases the likelihood that trainers on that route will suddenly want to rematch you. And, when you first open the PokéNav, if its big blue light on the left is blinking, that means there's a trainer on that route that's ready to rematch you, so that can be a quick way to check (Route 104 is particularly good for money, because of the Lady and Rich Boy that can both rematch you on that route). However, this doesn't seem to work all that well for some places like Petalburg Woods that you have to screen transition into (I can almost never get the Bug Catcher there to rematch me at will, for instance).
    (1:15:43) Actually, you'd need 6 Growths to double your power compared to 2. With 2 Growths, you have 200% power. With 4 Growths, you have 300% power, not 400%. Therefore, it would take 6 Growths to reach 400% power.
    (1:16:58) Yep. With just 5 Growths under your belt, you only have 350% power, which is not quite enough.
    (1:18:10) Clutch crit FTW!
    (1:18:35) You're welcome!
    (1:20:05) And that's game, with a first-try flawless victory on Wallace! Huzzah!

  • @Lebon19
    @Lebon19 Před rokem +6

    I want to see a tier list for Emerald like the one you did for Red&Blue.
    Anyway, it was a very entertaining run to watch while stuff was encoding at my job.

  • @shemalibk9682
    @shemalibk9682 Před rokem +3

    So happy whenever I see one of these videos up. It really makes my day. Thank you, Jrose.

  • @NexTJesS
    @NexTJesS Před rokem +2

    0:21
    Jrose11 : Sunkern is unique.
    Gordon Ramsay : Uniquely sh*t !

  • @Tynamite843
    @Tynamite843 Před rokem +1

    Love the content dude , you and other great poke tubers are really making me miss the old games ❤ keep up the hard work !!

  • @majortiergamerelite294
    @majortiergamerelite294 Před rokem +7

    Been watching for a decent time now. You're one of my favorite pokemon content creators. I love these soo much I sometimes fall asleep to challenges I've already watched. Listening to this knowledge helps calm me. Thank you for being great :)

  • @MrBrewskiDrewski
    @MrBrewskiDrewski Před rokem +19

    Thank you so much for the abundance of content recently, Jrose! Just please be sure to not over work yourself and get burnt out on Pokémon. That would be catastrophic.

  • @GuyInHisOwnWorld
    @GuyInHisOwnWorld Před rokem +2

    I saw how much of the video was left when you had that final Drake battle and thought that this was gonna be a failed run. Glad I was wrong lol.

  • @mrwillard95
    @mrwillard95 Před rokem +1

    I like the fact that jrose can consistently put out entertaining content that speaks for itself without having to resort to the usual begging that most youtubers unfortunately do.

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn Před rokem

      CZcams doesn't prefer people like Jrose unlike a cheater like Dream or a double team abuser like MDB.

    • @mrwillard95
      @mrwillard95 Před rokem

      @@ShinyTillDawn Maybe I'm out of the loop here, but who is dream and mdb?

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn Před rokem

      @@mrwillard95 How tf do you not know who they are? Anyway, MDB took over Pikasprey in raking in views for Pokémon challenges. He had devolved to using double team to cheese challenges. Dream has 26 million subscribers, and he manipulated RNG in his popular Minecraft speedruns and got away with it.

  • @TheTuneAce
    @TheTuneAce Před rokem +6

    Although not necessarily easy to get, white herbs can be obtained by pickup if you ever wanted to try a white herb strat to deal with intimidate/sand attack

    • @Igorcastrochucre
      @Igorcastrochucre Před rokem

      Yeah, but it was Emerald that introduced the pool of Pickupable items varies by level, and White Herbs are a level 41 at minimum and a 1% at that and the highest level pick up mon one can have in Emerald is 27. Even if he did allow for the daycare, it's 50,000 steps, and he'd still have to grind for the White Herb.

    • @TheTuneAce
      @TheTuneAce Před rokem

      Yes it would be a grind.
      Plus experience share.

  • @pkmax5804
    @pkmax5804 Před rokem +1

    I just want to say thank you for the Videos and your work man. I enjoy your content very much just started to follow you on twitch as well. Hope you keep going and you really deserve to become much bigger. Best wishes from Germany ✌️

  • @GabrielHdzLP
    @GabrielHdzLP Před rokem +2

    Gen 3 Sunkern solo... Now THIS is a CHALLENGE. Thank you for such good video.

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 Před rokem +13

    Just throwing this out there for future Gen 3 stuff because of your Glacia battle where you thought setting up against the Blizzard Sealeo wouldn't be viable (despite many other luck based strategies used throughout), Blizzard doesn't get its accuracy negating during Hail effect until Gen 4.
    Great run though, glad you're branching out more recently. Gotta say though, I feel like you make certain aspects of these way harder on yourself than they need to be. Specifically referring to the berry fiasco near the end, why if you're modifying your save (I assume this is what you meant by "importing" it to something like PKHex) you don't just tinker with your EVs manually since it's fundamentally the same thing. The same idea could be applied to using Candies to level up instead of fighting wild Mons, although I think there's probably limitations to the legitimacy of this ideal such as modifying IVs for different Hidden Powers (or for anything really) at different points in the run or changing your ability in games before the Ability Capsule exists/is obtainable.
    Obviously if a run is borderline impossible I'd prefer to see a Mon reach its max potential by any means necessary before giving up on it (such as the Spinarak run), but there's definitely a balance to be reached between logical convenience and illogical abuse. Just wanted to drop this idea out there if it would make these easier (production wise) and more enjoyable.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  Před rokem +3

      I legit dump it and just use an emulator, there's 0 modification happening. On Emulator the in game clock is tied to the real clock so it can be changed.

  • @theannilators7479
    @theannilators7479 Před rokem +8

    you know a video is gonna be rough when jrose uploads it at ass o'clock

  • @arthurjeannin3357
    @arthurjeannin3357 Před rokem +2

    I'm just screaming "KILL THE XATU FIRST ALREADY" at my screen at this point

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 Před rokem +2

    Oh no. Even as a lover of Grass types, I would not wish Sunkern on my worst enemy.

  • @RedDot1Shot
    @RedDot1Shot Před rokem +6

    I was looking for something to watch at 12:45 am … and now I have my answer :) keep it up man!

  • @tbone6032
    @tbone6032 Před rokem +4

    Very cool run! During Brawley to be fully optimal you could ingrain on the turn meditite is being healed. Since you know you won’t take damage from him. Could save PP. didn’t matter tho

  • @ulsy8339
    @ulsy8339 Před rokem

    Found your videos a week ago, and they got me through some tough hours being ill so thank you!

  • @athanaricwilhelmsson
    @athanaricwilhelmsson Před rokem +1

    24:09 never thought I'd hear an Angel reference in your videos lol. Currently watching it for the first time.

  • @keylimepython641
    @keylimepython641 Před rokem +3

    Steven has many rock types, so you probably could beat him eventually.

  • @4ToastGhost
    @4ToastGhost Před rokem +8

    Would be so cool to watch a darkrai through Pearl or somehthing of the sorts.. Great video as always!!

    • @ALPHA.ZONE_
      @ALPHA.ZONE_ Před rokem

      No it wouldn't stfu

    • @TheGuyWhoIsSitting
      @TheGuyWhoIsSitting Před rokem +3

      I forget if Gen 4 has the Fateful Encounter flag so Darkrai will obey or not. If doing a solo run you'd need to be able to make it so Darkrai will obey in the first battle or just lose it since it isn't required to win then edit it in a save editor to be Fateful Encounter. I know Gen 3 had it for Deoxys and Jirachi, maybe Celebi and Mew, where if that flag isn't checked it won't listen to you like a traded Pokemon.

  • @johngunnerson3203
    @johngunnerson3203 Před rokem +1

    I love these! I’m excited to see how good Starmie and Crobat are!

  • @rikajougasaki3296
    @rikajougasaki3296 Před rokem +9

    Since you're moving into Gen 3, will you start taking into account which of two abilities gives you the better advantage for each run?

    • @SoulmongerV2
      @SoulmongerV2 Před rokem +6

      Looking forward to Hustle Togepi run.

  • @Carlitonsp1
    @Carlitonsp1 Před rokem +11

    I would argue Sunkern has a great Grass move pool. Basically learns everything that wasn't super exclusive.

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ Před rokem +5

      Unfortunately no coverage.
      Only moves that could help it are by TMS.
      Useful moves can be taught are Sludge Bomb, Toxic, Sunny Day, Attract and of course, Protect.

    • @hv433
      @hv433 Před rokem

      A great Grass move pool doesn't help as much as a diverse one.
      Especially when you need to deal with Fire types.

  • @Smurffed
    @Smurffed Před rokem +2

    Been a fan of yours for a while and Im trying my first challenge currently because of your vids!

  • @andersonantunesdeleu8591

    Wow Jrose ! You rocked! That was really smart, you used all moves so cleverly! Congratulations! I didn't even think it would be possible!

  • @Pikachamp1
    @Pikachamp1 Před rokem +3

    It's such a change not to have you cheer for Growth because of the Badge Boost Glitch but because of the actual stat boost :D

  • @rebeccalambeth3427
    @rebeccalambeth3427 Před rokem +21

    This was a cool run! Admittedly I've always had a soft spot for Sunkern and especially Sunflora. Part of me wishes they were better than they actually are, since I'd love to use one on a team one day just because I've always liked it and found it cute.
    But hey - pokemon don't have to be good or strong to be one of your favourites!

    • @glitchin1233
      @glitchin1233 Před rokem

      It is kinda strange though, typically if a pokemon is very weak in its base evolution it will evolve into something pretty good like Garados, and Sunkern needs a special stone that only worked on 2 pokemon when it was introduced. You would think Sunflora would be a good grass type but no, just average to below as far as stats go

    • @frozenfeet4534
      @frozenfeet4534 Před rokem +1

      @@glitchin1233 this is very common especially in older gens - earlygame pokemon are supposed to be weak, lategame pokemon are supposed to be strong. this is also why rock throw had 60% accuracy in gen 1 - early trainers use rock types, so make rock types moves worse

  • @VoiceAnon
    @VoiceAnon Před rokem +2

    I like how the end credits is just Sunkern spam.

  • @PikaPower131313
    @PikaPower131313 Před rokem

    1:20:35 "while Steven is a more difficult champion"
    *Steven sitting in a cave waiting to battle you*
    "ok"

  • @airshiphead
    @airshiphead Před rokem +5

    The fact you didn't need lv 100 is just straight up impressive. Love your content man!

  • @gaminggoddess85
    @gaminggoddess85 Před rokem +19

    You can rematch trainers in RSE, they just don't call you like in GSC and you can't fight them on command like with FRLG's Vs Seeker. You can check who wants to battle on the PokeNav's Trainer's Eye but it's faster to go talk to them. They seems to want to battle again every 5 or so minutes and they level up a couple times themselves.

    • @Eroil
      @Eroil Před rokem +4

      To correct you a bit- in Emerald it's not based on time when they want to battle but every time you enter their route there's a chance that they'll want to battle you. Using this strategy you can go in and out of their route quickly and almost guarantee a battle. Doing this on route 117 helps you level up very quickly faster than even victory road pretty sure

    • @nothx13
      @nothx13 Před rokem

      @@Eroil Hey, I also have another way of rematching too! By walking around by 255 steps, you can get a call from registered trainers! Even though, most of the time they we're just saying random things, theres a roughly 31% chance or so of them wanting to rematch! (I'm not entirely sure about the chances part, tho. If I remember correctly, the chance is applied only to gym leaders but not entirely sure. Correct me if I'm wrong!) This is maybe not the most efficient way of grinding via rematches, but it is one of the possible ways if you like to running/bike around crazily for fun or whatever and this is also a little bit of funfact about Emerald. I'm not trying to correcting you or anything. Just saying. (I know about this from looking at the source code of Emerald for fun :P)

    • @Eroil
      @Eroil Před rokem

      @@nothx13 thanks didn't know about tha! Never tried rematching gym leaders in emerald to be honest I just know about this strat being very effective used it a lot in nuzlocks to quickly level up my team

  • @bhu1992
    @bhu1992 Před rokem +1

    Jrose's return to posting has been amazing O_O
    Man you keep on giving amazing content 100%!

  • @sammcgregor5455
    @sammcgregor5455 Před rokem

    Man you are smashing these releases lately, it's been awesome

  • @mattakia
    @mattakia Před rokem +8

    Just looking at this title, I know this will be an uphill battle from the beginning

  • @r3turnfyre426
    @r3turnfyre426 Před rokem +6

    Man I love the vids you do from the later generations. Don't get me wrong, the gen 1 runs are gold, but it's cool to see you flex those battling skills with more intricate (at least, intentionally) mechanics.

  • @Yossus
    @Yossus Před rokem +1

    Swablu joins Lorelei in the group of Pokemon characters that get a special JRose pronunciation

  • @pimcoenen6097
    @pimcoenen6097 Před rokem

    Thanks for making these, really enjoy them :)

  • @Sweepout
    @Sweepout Před rokem +5

    It would be interesting to see if Sunflora is an improvement at all, or if it still is an awful Pokemon for the challenge.

  • @cooljams_jams
    @cooljams_jams Před rokem +3

    Jrose, you really SUNK another challenge right in the pocket! Hope ya have a nice, sunny day with the next run!

  • @richardolofsson6380
    @richardolofsson6380 Před rokem

    Love this channel, such insight in the perfect game mechanics of the early Pokemon games. Next time, could you please make a solo run with the best gen 2 pokemon, namely Wooper?

  • @Ryo242
    @Ryo242 Před rokem +1

    Fun fact, I beat ORAS with a Sunkern (as part of a team, it was "every bad pokemon from each generation" themed), and he.. disabled Mega Evolutions with Worry Seed. Good times.

  • @napoleoncomplex2712
    @napoleoncomplex2712 Před rokem +11

    JRose, we haven't seen many middle evolution runs. Would it maybe be worth trying an Ivysaur or Machoke only run?

    • @bongosmcdongos4190
      @bongosmcdongos4190 Před rokem +5

      Kinda seems like there would be no point. It'd be worse than the final form and better than the rookie form. No suspense at all.

  • @Gokkee
    @Gokkee Před rokem +3

    Another great vid :D
    Keep up the great work jrose 👌
    Can't wait for the scyther vs pinser rivalry to be settled 👌
    Let's go team scyther 👌

  • @ChaoticKide
    @ChaoticKide Před rokem +1

    Me: Oh hey an upload!
    Me, looking at the clock: Jrose you good? It's 11pm!?
    Sees the Pokemon: No. No he isn't. Fair enough.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Před rokem

    Nice run & analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @gibbeldon
    @gibbeldon Před rokem +5

    Maybe you want to add a trycounter and/or timer to the battles.
    That way it will be easier to convey a battle's difficulty to the audience.
    PS: Maybe even use an overlay like speedrunners showing all the splits (battles in our case).

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs Před rokem +4

    The scaling with the rival fights is so weird, by the time you fight May/Brendan the final time they don’t even have a fully evolved starter but that battle underneath cycling road is a run ender for so many nuzlockes