Ta-Nehisi Coates - On Debunking The Myth of American Exceptionalism | The Daily Show
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- Ta-Nehisi Coates discusses his book “We Were Eight Years in Power” and reflects on Barack Obama's presidency. #DailyShow #TaNehisiCoates
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Love love love Ta Nehisi Coates’ interviews. Would love to sit down with him. I grew up in Jim Crow south Louisiana. I want to thank him for bringing truth to US history & where we are!
Wild times
@ninja potato Yeah but you can't just quote inaccurately, if you read the book, there's more to that than simply I didn't feel anything because this country is racist. You just nit picked whatever seemed appealing to you.
@ninja potato I would only say that if you have to ask that question, you’d never understand the answer.
@@roomofmyown “They were not human to me. Black, white, or whatever, they were menaces of nature; they were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could - with no justification - shatter my body.” There’s a quote from his book. Justify that please so I can call you out like the POS you are.
Mr Coates is correct, that getting to know black people as folks will Automatically undermine the fallacy of any race's supremacy. Think it might be useful to frame that observation as a directive.
Let's EACH commit to getting to know "others" better.
Birds of a feather.....
Lol why ther a only fans post on here
@@mrmr-qx4jq perhaps because, in addition to spelling and grammar, we were taught to say something NICE or say nothing... unless someone's Civil Rights or health are in danger.
@@mariekastler5391 I purposely misspelled the word "there". Your comment isn't even comprehensive why u hatin on me
@@mrmr-qx4jq you keep asking questions. Why do I have the feeling you aren't interested in the answers?
I like how he’s consistent in saying that his point isn’t to create or destroy hope. As a journalist he’s simply reporting. Hope is the job of pastors and others…
It's dangerous to put people on a pedestal and same goes for government, my opinion of course.
So true
You're so Correct
Look at what's happening with us putting White people on a pedestal..
They bleed Red the same as for all Humans 👍
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A really great interview, Trevor. I bought the book after watching it. Your questions really challenged Ta-Nehisi Coates to respond in a thoughtful and nuanced way, and the result was superb.
What about the issues? As a black women, Obama didn't do much for us. He went further to the left. He played it safe and wanted to please the people around him. The decision he made in Libya is also unforgivable.
@ninja potato ya, they need to know that not everything is a race issue. I am tired of it honestly.
America was not ready for those conversations and as we can see they aren't ready for those conversations now
I often wonder what policy for Black folks do you think he could have gotten passed a filibuster proof Congress?
@coachwalk7485 I know right? Did people think he was emperor and could pass any law he wanted? Like 400 years of oppression is going to be erased in 8 years.
"aS a bLaCk wOmAn"
Sure Jan.
Salute to all the people of the struggle. Blessings to everyone stay safe and prayed up
These are not cops from Canada. THEY ARE UN POLICE WITH NO NAMEs or numbers on BADGES. THERE IS ALREADY footage of UN PLANE LANDED IN CANADA! Go to R U M B L E channel OP Freedom. Video uploaded 7 hours ago shows the UN plane. SHARE
To paraphrase Lewis Black, it is baffling to think there are people who have never left the country who boldly claim that America is the greatest country on earth, when right next door Canada is giving away health insurance for free.
So taking taxes and offering socialist medicine makes a country great? It's great for basic healthcare, but they fully depend on American medical systems for advanced care and drugs.
@@homewall744 socialist medicine? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love the assumption that free=bad
@@homewall744 another few things
American medicine i believe 60% of American made medication is banned in the EU
The only western first world country that doesn't have free healthcare while the rest do
If u compare food American food is far unhealthier because chemicals and other things they add for unknown reasons
Biggest food exporters
1 the US
2 the Netherlands (size of new Jersey)
Americans care about privacy meanwhile if they get arrested once ther mugshots are on internet and they can't get a job
There generally underpaid workers
The US only cares to keep rich ppl in power and keep the poor from seeing it
While other countries have there problems
The Netherlands ppl are stubborn to follow any rules set by the government and housing
Germany has so many abandoned buildings and towns
Belgium the roads do not exist anymore
I can keep going
Oh and the biggest irony of them all "the United states of America" literally the most divided country on this planet
@@STOkittenas an Indian, I disagree with you stating US being the most divided country in the world. But I can surely agree it's up there.
insurance is a scam.
People of all skin colors commit injustices to people of all skin colors.
Wow! Two brilliant minds. Shaking it up, spitting truth and certainly a couple of my favorite people.
We heard you the first time terry
Slingshot or trapdoor to the abyss? I know which my money's on, but the optimism made my brunch taste better.
I wish I felt the same. I’d say my anger has calcified into despair.
I heard that! 😆
Every country creates its own mythological past and believes in it's own exceptionalism. Rome had its Romulus and Remus and a belief in it's divine righteousness, whatever the atrocities they committed. Rome at least can boast of having lasted 1000 years.
This was pre-recorded, right? Not live show available recently due to COVID19
“...into the abyss.” He knew.
I have been thinking about this a lot. I am constantly explaining privilege to my white male friends. So many of them are so defensive. People I have known for over a decade shocked me to my core. Just to hear them push back on things. To say it’s disturbing is such a understatement.
I have no words.
I’ll just keep standing up when I hear the ignorance and ugliness
What ignorance and ugliness? From your friends? What are they pushing back on?
How about you stop focusing on skin color.
People like you are part of the problem.
Government sanctioned racism is still racism.
@@jamespatrick3462 why do you lie so much James?
@@busterofcoviddeniers How specifically is a person sharing their real experience “bigoted?”
@@jonahkaun891 oh the irony of your comment haha. Thanks for demonstrating her exact point.
I've never thought America as a higher country with great values and morals. Like it's not perfect. they have the goals that they want to make it for the country even with the amendments like being able to be a free country where you can say what you want to say but obviously no country is perfect it's going to have some flaws. The thing about America is that they need to accept those flaws and work on it. And I've seen it time and time again so it can be done but it depends on how people really examine different issues and get the bigger picture
Most in my country, (USA), see us as a work in progress. We are not, never have been, and never will be perfect, any more than any human being is ever perfect. Those who claim some fact of innate exceptionalism as necessary to be proud of their country, organization, family, or anything else, essentially relinquish their responsibility to ask questions, consider alternatives, learn about/understand human nature.
It’s like if Superman and Lex Luther were the same person had me 💀💦
It's never been more divided than it now.
@@blueguise23 Not true. Gracious, we had a civil war!
I believe that both "MLG Gamer" and "Michael Fox" misunderstand what most who support the concept of American exceptionalism in this day and age are actually arguing in favor of. American exceptionalism supporters are not arguing that America sits in some magical plane of existence or that America is perfect, but rather the fact that America has an effective mechanism for popular consent and consistent growth and development through societal introspection is what makes America exceptional. Most countries "shoot the messengers" to use a quaint expression and, if they don't it's because their style of governance is increasingly influenced by America.
This is from old interview, back when the book came out, right?
After learning about the absolute disgusting things he said about 9/11 first responders, I can't take him seriously on anything anymore
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Indeed
Whatever that was that you aren’t saying or offering any info to be checked.
@@JP-lu9ed He wrote in his book "between the world and me" about the incredibly brave and selfless 9/11 first responders who risked their lifes: "They were not human to me. Black, white or whatever, they were menaces of nature; they were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could - with no justification - shatter my body." There is no excuse for this vile, deranged dribble.
@@captainhaddock6435 Context matters. Americans have a tendency to worship uniforms, this may be the reason why you can't understand what the author was living through at the time. You adulate American soldiers and police regardless of the atrocities they commit at home or abroad.
Stories have power. What we believe about ourselves is important. But, the better story about America isn't that we were and are perfect. Rather, many Americans were horribly cruel, hypocritical, vicious, and genocidal for hundreds of years, but now have turned a corner. Its a big change. And that deserves to be talked about so it can have the spiritual nutrients to take root and grow deep. There is a long, ling way to go. But only together can we get there.
"but now have turned a corner". Sorry, what? The USA is just as cruel, bloodthirsty, racist, genocidal and hypocritical as ever. In fact, things have gotten even worse!
This comment is itself American exceptionalist. US is irreversibly racist, genocidal, greedy, and hypocritical.
@@TheCatLady65 exactly!
@@IM-hx7jt 🤔 Some Americans are racist, let's not kid ourselves, but the idea of "America" is not. I do not believe America is exceptional, but had some great ideas through the years that got misinterpreted and twisted by corrupt Americans. The words "all men are created equal" is a great ideal(!)... But... The confederacy never agreed with the platitude and still fight AGAINST it to this day.
@@kyote1369 the people who wrote that owned slaves. Even if in a vacuum it’s a liberating idea, the original concept and how it’s played out is nothing but irrevocably racist and anti-black
I've added the book to my Amazon wish list. Thanks!
As did I.🙏🏽
Better yet, order it from a local bookseller. Anyone but Bezos, please.
I am very happy and honoured for making and editing the captions for the video...Love Coates, he's a great guy!
Happy birthday Trevor!
The end 😂
Hey Trevor, planning to run for prez in your country any time 😎🤔?
I KNOW America is not higher than all other countries. I have traveled extensively and lived abroad. I've experienced countries that were better in many aspects. The advantage I see in the USA, as a black man, is that NOW anyone can take advantage of the system and prosper financially. Just play by the rules. From a moral and mental prosperity perspective, and personal security standpoint, the USA is horrendous.
I love how this interview is from before Ta-Nehisi was hired to write Superman, and at 3:31 he and Trevor are talking Superman :)
He was hired to write Superman? Neat!
Didn't this guy model the evil Red Skull after Jordan Peterson and Donald Trump? I am by no means a right winger -at all- but I strongly dislike extreme left populists. This guy is totally wrong in his explanation of why Trump was elected, in this interview. First he says it was because of Obama being black, which is nonsense. Trevor corrects him: it was because of Hillary Clinton. Then he quickly agrees and says that it was because she was a woman. Which again is nonsense. It was because Hillary was gloriously unlikeable and because she was in cahoots with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (toxic DNC-matriarch). This man is exactly what's wrong with the left. And he has a dumb name, I mean what is that?
Excellent analysis. Thank you ♥️
From when is this clip? Did they go back to everything old?
Yeah. Haven’t seen that hairline recently. What’s up with that?
Is this an old clip or did trevor get a haircut and become younger?
It's old. Book was written in 2017 and this is the old studio
Interesting coincidence, but the author is now writing superman
Great interview.
Sir Trevor noah i searched but you havnt talked about uyghurs situation yet .
Happy Birthday, Trevor Noah! Thanks for the wonderful interviews and commentary bringing light to the issues and for keeping humor a part of it to get through it all.
I never think that partisan interviews are wonderful, they're propaganda.
Wrote a great article for the Atlantic. I also bought his books. A thinker on the level of Baldwin.
In this interview it sounds like Trevor was already thinking about going on the road and saying whatever he wants to say again.
"Trapdoor that plummets us into the abys" Deflecting. Those thoughts come from their own minds.
Can't wait to see you on Louder with Crowder. I can't wait.
Trevor have Mr. Coates back to expound on the trap door of me too, blm, etc..
Please 🙏
Trevor always has the most interesting people on his show!
Bigots?
@Mira M Lots of you hatemongers out there. Any Ta Nehisi Coates fan is definitely a hatemonger? If you had read the quote, then you would’ve never posted.
I suppose having a guy who was glad first responders died on 9/11 on is interesting in its own way.
@@LB-py9ig Could you please supply relevant evidence?
@@colinreese Could you please explain your post?
It's most certainly not inside everyone to think their country is above others...
I had a feeling, he and I are related, there's some resemblance. West Baltimore born-and-bred! I'm going to have to talk to some family members and verify!
The name Coates comed in Baltimore, will definitely related.
I know of a Coates who is from Scotland.
@@sagstar
Yes, and also England but you say that to say what?
Mr Coates😍🥰
So subjective. Everyone reads and understands differently. But treating someone as less than because of birth or location you have bigger problems in your life.
Did Trevor change back to the old format, and...cut off his beautiful hair?? Or, was this a pre-Covid interview?🤔
American (or any country's) exceptionalism is a myth.
If we or anyone were truly exceptional...that would mean there's nothing to strive for, no improvement needed, no growth, no change, and nothing to look forward to.
Read the book years ago (highly recommend). Yes, this is an old interview, happened some time ago. It is deceiving, the show is trying to present this as something new. Great interview though, which I've already heard, but I'd rather listen to a current interview with one our American intellectuals -- Ta-Nehisi Coates.
He did really well. it was obvious that he was quite nervous. What a nice fella
He’s a POS racist. “They were not human to me. Black, white, or whatever, they were menaces of nature; they were the fire, the comet, the storm, which could - with no justification - shatter my body.” That’s a quote from his book about the first responders that gave their lives in attempting to save people on 9/11. Human garbage is what he is.
It's not a myth. Our country's moral, ethical & righteous ideology of freedom & liberty for all greatly sets us apart from most if not all nations. Sure, we've had our historical issues, bloodshed & tragedies, even atrocities but like most developing societies we've surpassed and risen above it and continue to grow. America is exceptional and it's why many people will give life and limb to come here for a chance at a better life of prosperity and freedom. I refuse to accept any of Coates' views as valid. He's obsessed with seeing the world through the prism of race and it's because he's a raging racist.
I’m gonna check this dude’s book out.
I FRiggen lovee that name yoloing this comment section like an enlightened Indusianus.
What happened to Trevor’s hair??
Wish people would do their own research on others and history.
This interview is off the chain 😎
As a non-American it seems that it takes an American to highlight how unexceptional their own country is. We look to it with great respect despite its flaws.
From an American you are respecting, at least in part, a myth.
Love this
Yesssss Trump was a black lash to President Obama . 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
This two are brothers!
There lafter is the same. :)))
I've got two words for you John Stockton
where is dulce Sloan? its been over 10days. does she have covid? i love her humor.
Quite out of context, but happiest birthday Trevor❤ You are adored❤
Do you know when is Trevor’s B-day?
Thank you so much for being my main information site for my American culture class.
the daywalker look is back
10:10 is really not far off lol
Love Ta-nehisi
Name recognition competition
Always a pleasure to listen to these to people.
This is a playback clip but they don't present it that way.
Did Trevor just compare the US to Superman??? Oh and ta-nehisi was right about trump being elected and what it would do to the country. I think most intelligent ppl knew this.
I used to serve Ta-Nehisi coffee at the hungarian pastry shop! What a gem
Name recognition pays well
Power to the peaceful
Didn't this guy write a Black Panther comic
Tbh this reminded me how Obama in some ways stood out more for being smart than for being black.
Don't know if I'll ever trust this man again
after he compared Jordan Peterson to Red Skull.
One of the ways that segregation maintains white supremacism is by allowing this notion to persist that all members of an otherwise well-known outgroup are one particular way; they're all relatively athletic, or they're all relatively unscrupulous, or whatever. If you _truly_ want to combat the effects of segregation, you have to start by combatting them in _yourself._ You have to identify people you have known in that outgroup who run _contrary_ to that notion in fairly evident _ways._
“Supremacism” is not a word
@@achinthmurali5207 Yes it is. Though it is not in Random House nor Merriam-Webster dictionaries. OED refers “SUPREMACISM” back to “SUPREMACIST”. But several dictionaries do define it separately and Wikipedia has an article on it. I’d say it’s a word on which lexicographers have yet to reach a consensus.
@@rtd1791 a word not in the dictionary is not a word in my book. It is at best slang. Nothing wrong with slang but it’s not a proper word.
Racism is one of the inherited Sins the Bible warns about.
Woe to those that hate based on something so trivial as skin color.
Yeah, he needs to learn that. He hated light complexioned people. That's why he cast a Mexican darker than George Lopez to play NAMOR. 😡
the physical comedy timing is perfection, love Trevor Noah.
Am I alone in considering tanahasi coats a name learned in history class and civics courses?
Well he seemed charming and cynical a bit 😅
Everything is relative, so saying any country is anything you have to put it into comparison to other countries? Im trying to figure which country doesnt have a horrible history, I cant think of a single one. We killed 1.2 million unarmed civilians in Viet Nam, yet I have known dozens of vietnamese immigrants and without a fail they say America is great. So they come from a country where we carried out horrific war crimes and yet those people can see something Coates can see. Coates has never suffered a day in his life by any stretch, yet he wants to act like he is a victim of something or other. Everything thee guys ask for is external change, i never hear them speak of internal change, ever. If you only wait for others to change to solve your problems, you have a problem. Pew research says 73 percent of African American males are not reading at grade level by the 3rd grade. Coates offers as the only solution others to change as say creating a culture of reading and math. What is the most succesful immigrant group? Chinese? Nope, Its Nigerians. Nigerians are actually the most successful immigrant group since the Jewish immigration in the 1930's. They are extraordinary, yet they enter a nation of "systemic racism", and dominate. Amazing huh? Ask a Nigerian how they feel about the United States.
Mitt Romney 😍😍😍
Oh is he going to make old Trump jokes this episode why'll Joe Biden takes us into WW3
It's an old clip - suit, audience, short hair. His hair is different now.
They couldn't be more wrong .
care to provide a counter argument as to why they are so wrong?
Honestly I just don't think that Trevor Noah understood his audience. Sure the most progressive and liberals amongst the daily show viewers loved him, but bringing on hosts that "debunk"The idea of American exceptionalism is only going to play out well on the most farthest left of your viewers. Now Jon Stewart has come back once a week, and he has moved to the center, shocker daily show ratings have gone up.
Is it just me, or did Coates’ viewpoints change since his previous interview with Trever Noah.
I like it though, he is more logical than emotional now. Maybe he grew up a little bit.
99 more likes would make my day! This was fascinating scripture of the free, Comedy Central the home for a mind ;)
...with respect, asking for likes is not healthy.
Trevor Noah wasn’t cool in this interview. He seemed to be condescending to Coates. I’m not a fan of that.
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"It was unfortunate that Hillary, joe biden, or trump ran" for president at all. But here we are.
Nah Hilary Clinton was a poor candidate who happened to be a woman. I think the only candidate that stood a chance against Donald trump was Bernie Sanders. If Covid wasn’t a thing he might have won against Biden as well.
As a writer for Marvel, his work is garbage.
@UCplVlIWorC2iGmbjpFE895A that guy is such a hack; he ruined Capt America and now he’s ruining Superman.
He was just getting started. He's currently in ruining NAMOR in Black Panther 2. He picked some dark Indian looking Mexican when he could've picked Mario Lopez. At least Mario played Greg Lugenis before.
@@BROOKLYN_COWBOY I’d like to see Namor represented the way he looks in the comics rather than some racists interpretation of him.
He has no business in the comic industry
@@themadtripper you're joking right this hack cannot be writing for the Man of Steel
If you don't act like a victim you ain't black.
Tehom!
I call this video ...2 racists one talk show. Hahahahahahahaha
YES YES YES YES!!! ⚡⚡⚡⚡ This dude gets it!!!! ❤❤❤🌍🌍🌍🌍🌍
One of the last few journalists left in USA 100%
You got a haircut or old release
Trevor's hair is pre-COVID length, he's wearing a suit, he has a studio audience, and the book itself actually came out in 2017. It's an old release. 🤷
Second here, i see the audience is BACK BABY!
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This is one of the most embarrassing interviews I’ve ever seen. How in the world this person was given any platform of prominence is beyond me.
Here's the comeback about your reparations, Coates: czcams.com/video/_lYAirsk0tk/video.html
Ta Nehisi Coates is a terrible person. He shouldn't be welcomed on any program or TV show after saying he didn't care when the 9/11 responders died.
Fake news...do u ever think or research for yourself.
Old generations cling to old ways of thought. In a lot of ways Obama was seem as the new generation until you put old people vs old people. Very very very far removed from the real culture of America in knowledge of predecessors vs no need to look at the predecessors for knowle
Misogyny is a cultural phenomenon linked round the world but in America it's almost exclusively led and admonished around religious thoughts as well. Blaming Eve and woman for not being wise allows a lot of people especially those who grew up with women in the kitchen pack of school education opportunity etc. To be respected. The misogynistic view of Archie Bunker vs Edith is a real portrayal of fix me a sandwich and if not how Imma go find me a new how. When you link economic issues with the rights of people especially escaping emotional physical pain and the need fear of standing on your own including with children becomes very dofficult
A lot of elders miss what Obama did for the kids and the youngest generations. Looking at the eldest generation vs going younger for advice leadership and knowledge . You didn't pit Donald or Joe vs a 30 year old woman who can stand up against big men with a voices some granny. Perception matters and so does the ability of a woman to be able to smack the smirk off of a predator. Unfortunately, women are generally viewed by age as less n less n less as they get older and so that captivating riveting power diminishes overtime especially with being able to use beauty assets etc. Part of that is though people are saying too attached personally vs a truth. Granny is perceived as less powerful than a young fierce woman who can handle herself a budget etc. A young fierce woman on stage vs old predatory men be surprised how a jaw stops working when she's dressed to do more than just impress.