Is a Stream Deck even WORTH IT in 2021?
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Elgato made a new Stream Deck! But is it even worth buying in 2021? Let's review the Elgato Stream Deck Mk.2 and compare it to the OG.
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In the automobile industry, this would be known as a mid-cycle facelift.
When the Stream Deck was first released, Elgato were admirably very active in discussing software feature requests/changes in Reddit, I remember early on one of the devs noting a couple of my requests regarding hotkeys/profile switching, and they ended up designing the profile switching in a better way than I could have imagined.
The community engagement is why the software has ended up so good, not just having the "that'll do, product shipped" attitude and moving straight onto the next product. I haven't visited the Stream Deck reddit threads in a long while now (the product just does what I need it to do), but hopefully the change to Corsair ownership hasn't hampered their proactive approach.
Opening up the platform to allow people/third parties to develop their own custom stuff, was also a brilliant move. As an early adopter the launch products focus was a little narrow to me, fortunately a couple of updates later it became incredibly useful for gaming and day to day PC use, and they still seem to bring something cool with nearly every update.
Also glad they haven't made too made too many technical changes with the 2.0 product, as cool as the thought of an OLED bluetooth model that does multi-device might sound..
I hope they come up with a similar XL version. Being able to strip it down and integrate it into a desk at my workplace (a room hired out to different groups of users) would be great.
That was a Linus quality merch segue right there
What can I say? I learned from the best.
A perfect illustration of good gear maturing is the documentary "Sound City". Dave Grohl spent tons of money to harvest a mixer from the '70s.
I'm sending this video to people that talk about gear being dead, I always hate it when people claim that matured gear shouldn't be used and you put that in the exact words I was never able to find
There are many young people in the AV industry happy to destroy working gear, because they are conditioned to believe the AV fairy will magically bring them something new and shiny.
An awesome video as per usual, Adam 😆👍👍 I bought my stream deck back on July 15th of 2019 during an Amazon Prime Day Sale. I haven't taken it out of the box and started using it as of yet, however, even with that being said, thankfully during that time there has been vast array plug-ins released for it alongside a plethora of awesome really cool updates.
On top of all of that within the alloted time that's past since my purchase I've watched a ton of numerous stream deck tips & tricks video as well as hidden or lesser known features - all in all basically boiling down to the fact that I absolutely can't wait to begin using it. ☺👌
Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
Still the most in-depth tech reviewer. Kudos to you bro 🙏
your videos are great. very helpful to small streamers that have just stepped into this world.
Honestly, I like the stream deck for hotkeying things for editing. I'm too lazy to get clear custom keycaps and cut out images of what I want and I don't want to memorize things more complex than Ctr+C and similar every day tasks. I don't know what Delete with Ripple is off the top of my head - I just press my button for it lol... Good video, thank you Epos. It is nice equipment I do recommend.
I like that you can easily gut the thing and create/buy an alternative case. Thinking about making something more compact to work with my laptop setup. Great review, thanks as always! I don't even stream.
Good vid man, liked it! Loved the maturing technology analogy. Gold
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
Points to you for having backup stream decks lying around
I could not imagine doing my weekly video/podcast of ElectricianLIVE without this Stream Deck XL. It truly made my streaming life so much easier and wish I had gotten it much sooner than I actually did. However, it was well worth the wait.
found you through this, thank you for this beautiful, mindful, and mature piece of content
subbed
6:13 "Hell...audio mixing boards are often kept around...'til they die."
My audio for my current stream setup all goes through my mixing board that I bought in 2007 (my trusty silver Yamaha MW12). The condenser mic is also from 2007. The mic arm is the only thing that's new.
It's not dying yet, but sometimes the little-used buttons need a bit of persuasion...
thoroughly enjoyed this video as usual my dear sir, but I would like to ask: What would you say are the advantages (other than actual tactile buttons and easier setup) the stream deck has over simply buying a 7" touch monitor and programming macro buttons that achieve the same result? as far as I know it is possible for a fraction of the price, but I would definitely like to hear some ideas from you and other commenters.
I've been debating whether or not to get a stream deck for some time. I think its finally time to get one. Love your content and the information you put forth that shows the positives and negatives. This helped me make my decision to get one!
me to iv seen a fair few profiles ect for games i play as well as general use to launch applications theirs so much can do its nuts the xl is on sale rn amazon uk
people really under utilize the functionality of the stream deck. It has so much more uses outside of streaming or content creation.
I bought the XL a month ago and can't live without it now
I was looking for just a lill comparation between both, or a easy reaview... i got somothing SO MUCH better! subbed.
You had me for a sec, haha. Thanks for subbing!
I'm kind of hoping that Elgato will engineer a way to integrate the new magnetic base of the Stream Deck 2.0 with the OG 15 key. Even if it means having to purchase it separately as personally, I think it looks much cleaner & sleek in comparison to the OG stand with the variations of degrees of tilt adjustment. ☺✌✌
I peep the CAD E100S. Love mine! Make sure to hold on to that. They got discontinued relatively recently.
I use a Stream Deck for DM online D&D, works great for on the go hot keys for Roll20 and Discord. Also use it for a Voicemod controller. Works great. Would like to upgrade to an XL at some point in the future.
Where do you find voicemods?
I bought my 15/32 button decks for use with flight simulators. Very useful. The refresh... Well, I literally hated the folding base on the 15 key deck so much that I mounted the deck on a monitor arm with velcro. The cable, while short, wasn't an issue for me because I have USB hubs for flight sim gear. I don't need the refresh.
I had to get it when i learned about it. I havent scraped the surface but during the pandemic it was on back order at best buy so 1st chance i got to cop it i did, with intentions of learning all it can do. And since the update.. wicked! Wish i had the removable wire though.. good video..
I use it for almost every application I use. It is amazing for my workflow in my primary job, photo editing. I have made a button for each action and most key press combos. My only gripe would be having some function to cross platform the profiles. I have to copy then redo all key combos from Mac to PC even though most of the modifiers are just swapped, like Command and CTRL.
I was hyped for a level uo of the streamdeck. We’ve seen other companies innovative in this space. For the price there are other alternatives. Elgato has a great product but it should innovate. I’ll try the XL version if you have a link. Thanks!
Stream Decks, and specifically the XL, are a space/flight simmers dream peripheral.
one of the things ill looking at an xl for haha
Okay, being able to strip it down to the bare internals is absolutely a huge upgrade. I suppose all that is missing is first party support for 3D printable models for the case, as I would love to just replace it with something with a cooler color to start with.
I enjoyed the voice. Well done, radio/podcasts/series
I just got the original version a couple of days ago. When I saw Amazon had it on sale last week for $100, I don't think I've ever hit "add to cart" so quickly and I bought it immediately, it was too hard to pass that up. I knocked off an additional $18 in Amazon rewards points and I got it delivered for $90 (incl.Tax)! This device has been on my Amazon "save for later" list for ages, just waiting for a good deal. I'm an OG (Old Geezer) myself and some of the new tech gets me scratching my head. But this thing is as simple to setup as it comes. :)
As far as the Mk2 version goes, I do like the detachable cable idea. Not a fan of that new stand though.
Excellent video, my friend. I have the new iMacPro M1Max with USB-C connections, in your opinion would the mark 2 15 button deck work if I were to use a USB-C on both ends?
Yep! Would work fine
Honestly, the only real gripe I have with my Stream Deck Mini is that sometimes pressing one button triggers another one and it's not really clear why. Like I've gone to change a scene and it ended the stream, too.
Great review, deserves a sub
Thanks!
Wait, is that Sierra Dawn's stream running in the background!? If so, that's hype af!
God i love that retro styled merch !
I just got the old stream deck, just prior to the release of the new one. In fact, I have not even used it. Do you think it is worth returning it and spending the extra money on the new model? I mean the cord seems slightly better.
I bought the XL. , now that was a great buy plus the wave 3
yes i prefered the andjustable angles, was glad to use it at the same angle than my keyboard is, next to it. @2:58
"Gear worth buying, matures" NO OTHER SENTENCE WAS TRUER THAN THIS ONE!!!
Thumbs up there, mate.
you matched really well with your beautiful background :)
that is all.
Is that a Sierra Dawn stream in the background?
Hey Professor - Just got the Mk 2. Not a gamer or streamer. Do music and videos 😱 for YT channel but have poor eyesight so hoping to set it up to do some of the things I struggle to see on screen. We'll see 😀 how it goes.
I am using the Software version on my iPad ... I hope they will make an mk2 of the XL version too. :)
I still have the old version of the stream deck and I've never streamed I just use it for launching things and use it as a sound mixer for voice meeter
Thanks for the resource. I was attempting to connect Loopback Aggregate with the Soundboard in Stream Deck so that I can play BGM through OBS, however, I can't seem to locate the device name or the device itself to add to the Source in Loopback. Could you please advise...? thx
I run 2 Stream Decks on either side of my racing wheel, and use them EVERY DAY, and still predecessors such as a Logitech G13. I didn't know what was different about the MK2's I really like the ability to strip it down and make it more minimalistic, as I have a very complicated setup, but, These old ones are not going anywhere anytime soon.
And don't feel bad for "spare new hardware" :P I have a spare G13 for when this beast finally decides it's done. :P it would be more than Fair after 12 years of service.
I sold mine years ago, just as easy using the keypad on the right to utilise all the binds and scene changes etc
elgato releases new products every months theses days. it seems that they're growing faster and faster, bringing more innovations at an incredible pace.
I can honestly say I was so reluctant to by this bought one yesterday and it’s absolutely insane how much time I can save with this makes me literally want to use my. Computer more I think the 15 key version I bought best you can make endless pages or profiles I can drag and slide button placement hot keys awesome I recommend taking it of dock and just using it flat if your right handed keep it on your left and used left handed is best
Waiting for it to hit Amazon.
Thank goodness for the detachable cable! Permanently attached cables are *bad!*
Agreeeed
I’m thinking of buying a Streamdeck, but there is a sale on the “old” version of 119€ and the MK2 is on 150€, so you think the old is good enough and worth to Safe the money ?
Help! - In the 15 key v2, how long is the detachable USB cable? Lots of places say it's longer than the original, but nowhere does it seem to say how long this new cable is.
Got my XL today from multiple donations on my twitch streams 😊
Hey dude I am new to the channel and never streamed before (I didn’t even know what a stream deck was until today), so maybe I’m not an important audience… but I feel like as your channel grows and more normies like me start watching, if there was more explanation of a product in some of these videos that could be awesome. Like even just another 30 seconds of you showing an example of how it works for a streamer. Because I am definitely in that shopping mindset so seeing more demo could be really nice. All in all I love your videos a ton though and I will probably watch them all! Just wanted to give my noob two cents :)
What mic are you using, i dont see it in you gear list or past list
I fkn love my streamdeck xl. It is the control center for my streams.
Sad to hear that the buttons are the same. I struggle with "double-clicks". But still would not want to miss it. Daily use.
Yesss Update ELGATO STREAM DECK
Is it a video capture device or do I still need one
Still missing a MIDI control input for musicians that would be great feature
With the crazy amount of controllers we have, why would we need the stream deck to have MIDI? I’m a music streamer, I definitely need a stream deck for what I do, but can’t think of any reason it would need MIDI though.
Where did you get your icons?
I bought the 15 key stream deck mk2 (in 2022), I was (am) using it for so much more then just streaming that I went and bought the XL. I hate a cluttered desktop, I always want my wallpapers to be on display on my desktop (why have a nice wallpaper to cover it up with icons). With Win 11 having such limited pinned apps (without having multiple pages), the stream deck XL keeps my most used apps and games easy to find, right at my finger tip. the 15 button now controls my audio, so even when I am not streaming, I can adjust the balance of my game sound and music/video that I usually have running as well. Honestly if I couldn't use it outside of streaming I wouldn't have bought it, as even now when streaming all the stream deck does for the most part is control Lioranboard, and I was using a midi controller to control my audio. It was a combination of smaller form factor and the functionality outside of streaming that made me decide to buy a stream deck.
2:02 Those are OLED screens... I use a couple of them as a button box for my racing rig.. and they are showing burn in from displaying the same image..
Stream Decks do not use OLED
My dude you are SUCH a good content creator
Well thank you :)
I really get a clear sense of the product, more than i ever would reading thousands of reviews
So I can program every button to perform any keystroke if I want? Also can I use my own artwork to show up for each individual button?
Yep
might look weird, but because i'm considering having 2 stream deck, having different faceplate is awesome to indicate clearly that the 2 products serves 2 different purposes. find lot of faceplates on etsy, even dual stand for wave xlr on top of stream deck, dual stream deck faceplate, but all thoses faceplates are handcrafted, so super expensives. elgato provide cheap ones, but choices are very limited. also faceplate is cool to remove elgato branding and put your own logo, and "make it yours" like epos sennheiser said.
What about the Stream Deck Mini?
Does it come as a Mk2 with detachable cable?
No
Can it switch between webcams? Thanks.
Basically it's a zapier with physical keys. Or IFFFT but in hardware form
Great review, I'm a first time viewer and I have subscribed. You have helped me get off the fence and thank God that I did not purchase my first Stream Deck last week. It looks like good things do come to those who wait 😉 Thanks brother and God bless.
Thank you!
My 11yo just bought a stream deck for his birthday. It's the older model as I didn't know there was a mk2. He loves it and figured out the connectivity right away. He has it set to play favorite songs and control his apps. It's pretty cool.
the stream deck is so good you don't need to be a streamer to have one its brill for just gaining
Love my XL, from mundane things like spin up/shut down program groups (work, studio, games) to highly specific tasks (Cubase actions).
Would have loved a wireless version (similar to my Harmony remote) for the upgrade as right now it’s the only wire on my desk.
Nothing else I’d change. Faceplate change is useless for me but I acknowledge embedding has become even more seductive now.
oh yes, i want a bluetooth version so badly!!!! maybe 1 that would also work on ios/android.
I currently use the stream deck app but honestly I think I’m gonna need to get the OG stream deck, on Amazon right now the mark 2 is like £40-£50 ($55-$70) more expensive, and while it has some nice improvements over the OG one it’s not worth that much more
You know are a new content creator its easy to get lost in the hype of things but where you earned my absolute trust is where you said first try these free options to see if you can use it
Speaking of freebies, one that is super useful but has a bit of a learning curve is Liornboard
You mentioned a link to what custom clamps or whatever for your Streamdeck..but didn't see it, did I miss it?
I'm a teacher, got a stream deck last year, used with OBS...but it really is fun to use with all the other tools I use for my classes (opening up software like a graphing calculator or whiteboard software, a magnifier, lesson plans, do nows, 'breaking news alerts') which I was using all the time. So, yeah...I would recommend for anyone to get one, to use with workflow (and of course streaming).
I do wish Elgato had come up with a cooler version of the streamdeck...like a different shape or something. But, if I wanted to spend the time and buy the new version...I guess (with some limitations like key placement)...someone could make a new casing...with LED lights...clear case...with sound changing...*ponders*
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@@EposVox missed it..THANKS!
thanks for the "review".
"Still worth, buy the mk2 and here's some background info" - exactly what I wanted to know :)
Waaa... that talk with streamer, gamer, etc was interesting and its most likely true and anouing xD 😙👌
loupedeck live is what I want but since this just dropped idk who to go for
Me just buying an old gen stream deck: 😐
Me 2 weeks ago, going straight back to amazon so I can have the new one
what arms do you have your stream decks on cant find them any where
Clamps are linked in the description. Arms are just basic friction arms like these amzn.to/3kxmc5C
Bought the original 15 key a few days ago for $100. Great value at that price, and i couldnt pass it up.
It is a real shame they have no love for linux. It looks like a great and convenient macro box, but I use linux exclusively for my streaming, online lecturing and seminar/workshops and podcasts. I went and bought an ergodox EZ programmable keyboard and made basically a streamdeck layer on it. If elgato ever natively support linux I'll buy one, but I aint holding my breath.
Can I use the new stream deck software with the old stream deck?
Yeah there’s not separate versions for the devices
I feel like this guy is filming in a video game themed Mos Eisley.
Do you know if the XL face plate comes off?
It doesn’t
Completely unrelated but where do I get that shirt??
I was wondering the same thing.
@EposVox Can I configure the icons etc on one Pc like my personal one and still use the stream deck with another Pc(work), where they block me downloading third party apps? Thank you.
The software has to run on the PC you’re using it on
@@EposVox bummer! Thank you for your quick response!
I thought it had an individual lcd screen behind every button. Def love my XL.
Nah one big screen behind them all
@@EposVox one ring to rule them all
Disapointed in SD. It feel like Corsair are letting this IP go stale. Was realy hoping for a Orbweaver type gaming key pad with an SD type interface built in by now.
I don’t care for hype. To me, it’s a fun time streaming and watch streams with it, what makes a game good. Easy as that.
The real power or stream deck is unleashed by the "Bitfocus companion", before that addition, stream deck is "fine"... but with that it becomes the central piece or large scale studio productions. Come to Finland behind almost any live broadcast and you'll see tons and tons of stream decks running companion and communicating across network to control anything from PTZ-cameras, vMix computers, play-out computers to audio mixers.
Stream Deck hardware is mature and reliable enough, it's the bitfocus companion, the software, that makes it a professional piece of kit.
I will still to my iPad mini with Touch Portal on it. At least my iPad can do other things too.
so is it worth to buy the mk2 $150 or just the old one$130? let me know plz.
I think there’s a video that answers this question. It’s above the comment section
how much
only problem i see, that Touchportalhave solved by using a screen directly on a tablet or phone, is the mushy feel when you press a button. I have the original and the XL SD and they both feel like worn out membrane keyboards that should have been in the garbage a decade ago, I get it's how they are build but it's still a shitty feel. The only thing that could make a StreamDeck better would be to get rid of the mushy physical keys and do it touch portal style by free form the display and do haptic feedback instead. I often press a key just to realize that i need to press it more direct to activate it. Where as when I use the Touchportal, not only do I have a clear visual i also have haptic feedback to tell me i pressed a button which is nice in the heat of the moment. I've always been a StreamDeck guy and always said screw TouchPortal, but when a friend choose TP over SD because of money and i had to make some stuff for him work on his stream, I was really impressed and now after almost a year they have added almost every single feature i thought was missing at the time. At this point Streamdeck hardware in my opinion is like buying an iphone, you buy into the ecosystem and then your kinda locked in. TouchPortal is like a mix between iOS and normal Android where you get the easy setup from SD but can easily do advanced stuff almost like lioranboard. Then you have Lioranboard, it's like rooting you android phone, heck enven like running a custom ROM. You need to know your shit before you do anything and you almost feel like life is being sucked out of you at times.
So now I only say go SD if you have static stuff and don't mind paying out the nose for it, to do what you need to do. But if you want creative freedom, go with TP because they will give it to you for a sweet price compared, and most families have old/spare tablets laying around that can be used. By not being a hardware solution this is also what is talking agains using it in professional studios, not saying it's not, but it isn't widespread like SD is. Every single person who I've talked to have a spare device of some sort be it phone or tablet so your large investment have already been made, if you don't want to use your daily driver phone. For me i combine both SD and TP because I already invested into SD, but was the canvas blank and I had to choose with the knowledge i have now, then SD, unless you are doing very specific things where a dedicated device to that thing is important, then SD is obsolete because of it's price and button limitation when compared to TP. Even their expensive software edition for phones adds virtual button, to conform to their software and it's a reoccuring payment thing. TP is $13 once for the pro version and your set on unlimited pages and buttons on those pages.
I actually love LioranBoard. Had an old Fire HD 8 tablet lying around doing nothing, now it's a powerful and very customizable tool for streaming. I can see how sideloading an app and configuring a websocket plugin might seem daunting to some and there's a learning curve when it comes to advanced techniques but in the end it was totally worth it for me and saved me $$$.
Also, physical buttons may wear out over time, but sometimes I think it's nice to be able to push the right button without looking at the deck. If i know I need to push the 2nd button from the left on the top row, my fingers can find it without having to take my eyes off something important. I consider that the only down side to using a touchscreen, and it's pretty minor. ;)
@@squeemeister I agree on lioranboard. I use it as the backbone automation for my streaming setup. my streamdecks as manual stream control and Touchportal to control game functions. So i use all of them. But if you look at features, ease of use and total price to get going touch portal beat them all because you get really advanced functions that is really easy to setup on a platform almost all have laying around be it iOS or android.
I'm using Touch Portal on an old 8" tablet and works great for me, put 32 buttons on the page so it's like a Stream Deck XL.