Shooting an antique Colt 1860 Army Revolver Part 1

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  • This is the first episode of a two-part series on shooting an original Colt 1860 revolver, made in 1864.
    I ran into some challenges, but with some work done by Lodgewood Mfg, and some home gunsmithing, I got the old Colt up and running again.
    CapandBall
    capandball.com/
    Lodgewood Mfg
    www.lodgewood.com/
    Mike Beliveau links
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    mikebeliveau.com/
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Komentáře • 204

  • @jonesy19691
    @jonesy19691 Před 4 lety +28

    That Colt looks like it was made yesterday!🇺🇸🤔

  • @lisar3006
    @lisar3006 Před 4 lety +14

    I love these old Colts A friend of mine back in the 60's and early 70's had an original 1860 Army that was his granddads in beautiful condition. Boyd was in his late 70's back then his granddad was in the 21st Ohio infantry. Boyd was a good old boy for a Yankee and i got to fire his 1860 Army. I left for the Army in 71 and only saw Boyd one more time in the mid 70's when i was an Army Recruiter before he past a 88. Great video Mike.

  • @generatorjohn4537
    @generatorjohn4537 Před 4 lety +7

    My wife overheard your reaction on that second shot and said, " he sounded pretty calm for a chain fire".
    Mike that was a great presentation. Always enjoy your channel. Thanks

  • @BigRooster616
    @BigRooster616 Před 3 lety +1

    Love it . I too have a Original 1860 Army . And I also shoot mine with my hand rolled cartridges. I just loged on and bought two cartridge 44 boxes from cap and ball myself.
    Love his chanel too .
    Thanks Mike 👊

  • @shibblesshalzabot6320
    @shibblesshalzabot6320 Před 4 lety +28

    1:00
    “...there are replicas for that...”
    To that I say, that’s your own personal property. Do what you want, it’s yours. No man shall tell another what he can or can’t do with his own property

    • @keithlucas6260
      @keithlucas6260 Před 4 lety +1

      That's why I own an Umberti 44-40 black powder pistol exactly like this.

    • @cheddar-bob-9090
      @cheddar-bob-9090 Před 4 lety +1

      Ya gotta let the old girl sing every now and again

    • @baalzamon3593
      @baalzamon3593 Před 3 lety

      @Serapis Christos someone doesn't like being told what to do? They must be racist!!!
      What a weak mindset

    • @redtra236
      @redtra236 Před 3 lety

      @@keithlucas6260 The .44-40 didn't exist until the 1870s though. And the modern ubertis in .44-40 can handle smokeless loads(although you can still use black powder if you want).

    • @keithlucas6260
      @keithlucas6260 Před 3 lety

      @@redtra236
      I'm already aware of that, thanks
      I love my black powder pistol.

  • @TheGravitywerks
    @TheGravitywerks Před 4 lety +1

    A replica will always be a "replica". Thank you for sharing the firing of a real piece of history.

  • @gturbod9848
    @gturbod9848 Před 4 lety +5

    It’s cool seeing original iron work

  • @45auto
    @45auto Před 4 lety +5

    When you shot that first pistol I said "Man, that was a stout load! And so was the second". Glad you are safe and I hope your pistol is undamaged as well.
    Now I will be on tenterhooks awaiting part II. (edited for spelling)

  • @lutherpayne9957
    @lutherpayne9957 Před 4 lety +12

    Man what a find. I would love to find a deal like that. Enjoy the old girl and shoot on.

  • @bibledoctor7623
    @bibledoctor7623 Před 4 lety +2

    As soon as you said 'original' I said 'oh my goodness'!
    Since my new-found love for black powder guns I am really looking forward to my next visit to Gettysburg Battlefield & Museum here in PA.
    Thanks for your posts!

  • @DragosdeGothia
    @DragosdeGothia Před 4 lety +3

    It's so awesome to see an original piece of history like that in action. Thanks so much for sharing that mate!

  • @lloydknighten5071
    @lloydknighten5071 Před 2 lety +1

    "To protect themselves from claim jumpers and other brands of idiots." I like that quote. This is probably why Colonel Colt called his 1873 ,45 revolver "The Peacemaker."

    • @99dsm1
      @99dsm1 Před 5 měsíci

      He didn't call it that, he died over a decade earlier

  • @1straightcut
    @1straightcut Před 4 lety +1

    What an interesting and exciting video to watch! Mike, thank you for the time and effort to make it. I can't wait to see next week's installment!

  • @ATM882
    @ATM882 Před 4 lety +6

    Great to see some friendship between two of my favorite BP CZcams channels. Keep up the good work!

  • @Curtislow2
    @Curtislow2 Před 4 lety +6

    When you jumped ,I almost shyte myself. . Whoo! In other words. I almost "PART 2" EARLY!

  • @dashthatoneviewer
    @dashthatoneviewer Před 4 lety +1

    I really love the history and explanation for everything from shooting to replicas because I never held a gun in my life but im planning on writing a story set in 1870s. All I wanna say is thank you for being a cool guy and help me learning about guns

  • @D5quared91
    @D5quared91 Před 4 lety

    Lodgewood is AWESOME. They repaired my original M1842 Aston single shot pistol and a few years later, my Parker Hale repro Enfield musketoon. Great folks!

  • @scottydouglass1892
    @scottydouglass1892 Před 4 lety +1

    I really like both of your guys videos. The other guy is cool because of his awesome accent. I do agree with you about shooting the old guns. Cars were made to be driven, not abused, but driven. The same with guns. I actually just bought my first black powder revolver. I bought a griswold from emf. I have always wanted to try this type of shooting, and watching your videos has only made it worse. Now I want a 1851, and a 49.

  • @impalaSS65
    @impalaSS65 Před 4 lety +6

    The 1860 Colt - my first love. As an 8year old I saw it in "How the west was won" in the hands of "Luke Macahan". The most beautiful handgun so far. How they managed to make it sleek, still a powerful 44... well, it is good design indeed.

    • @Brzcastas
      @Brzcastas Před 4 lety +1

      My favorite tv show as well

    • @acanuck4life
      @acanuck4life Před 4 lety

      It's in .36

    • @impalaSS65
      @impalaSS65 Před 4 lety

      @@acanuck4life Please look at 8:39 .

    • @redtra236
      @redtra236 Před 3 lety

      @@acanuck4life I don't think they even made the 1860 Colt in .36

  • @icarusairways6139
    @icarusairways6139 Před 4 lety

    I have an old 12 ga single shot. My dad got it used when he was 14, gave it to me when I turned 14 and is still my go to shotgun at 64 yrs. My son also loves it. Well built and meant to be used.

  • @TheRealCobraBurnout
    @TheRealCobraBurnout Před 4 lety +2

    oh wow, that chain fire. I'm glad no injuries. Looking forward to finding out more in part 2. I'm new to these and your channel is a great find for me. thanks

  • @alanmcconnaughey2698
    @alanmcconnaughey2698 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for making this video, I'm currently looking at an 1860 I'm considering purchasing and your video and some book work is a great help!

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko2268 Před 4 lety

    Wow! That Original Colt looks fantastic! Respect to the master gunsmith.

  • @AA-dn8dj
    @AA-dn8dj Před 4 lety +7

    Cap and Ball has some amazing videos on old Cold War guns. I found his PPSH-41 video after your Makarov video way back when.

  • @johnscarfe
    @johnscarfe Před 4 lety

    What an absolute beauty. Nice to see these old pistols getting the love they so rightly deserve. One day I hope to get an original, however I have a good selection of COPIES of Colt’s early work, from the Patterson through Dragoon, to the 51,60,61 and several 62 police. Enjoy the history and shooting of these 19th century works of art . Have learned a lot from your videos and articles. Keep on putting out the great content please.

  • @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194

    Beautiful, enjoy shooting it. Thank you for sharing, made my day.

  • @wintonhudelson2252
    @wintonhudelson2252 Před 4 lety

    Mike, in '64, a shooting friend and I used to fire his great-grandfather's 1851 Navy. We were in high school and didn't know a ton about gunsmithing. We had a chain fire and didn't know what is was. We stopped shooting it because we thought it might have a cracked cylinder. Thank you.

  • @MPGunther1
    @MPGunther1 Před 4 lety

    Fantastic piece of history

  • @TartanJack
    @TartanJack Před 4 lety

    Blown away by the provenance... no pun intended. So great you rescued this piece.

  • @mylesjordan9970
    @mylesjordan9970 Před 2 lety

    I’m really impressed you saw fit to invest in restoring and giving new life to a great piece of history. Good on you. (I did the same thing for a beautiful early-19th century cello, which set me back more than I’m willing to admit, but it’s worth it; forty years later I’m still playing on it and it sounds better than ever.)

  • @kowalski363
    @kowalski363 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thank you Mike.

  • @Reloader449
    @Reloader449 Před 3 lety

    My Pietta 1860 Colt Army replica is still in great condition, purchased from EMF in early 1980's and by now ... haven't fired it in 30 years. No Rust, great looking. I should shoot it sometime. This replica I have is made to accept cartridges, with plenty of space just behind the ramrod.

  • @lessage760
    @lessage760 Před 4 lety

    Thank you sir can't wait for the second round great looking revolver and it sounds very interesting as they say if the walls could talk have a great weekend sir

  • @AA-dn8dj
    @AA-dn8dj Před 4 lety +1

    Sweet video. Beautiful pistol.

  • @jazzman5598
    @jazzman5598 Před 4 lety

    Glad to see a shooting vid Mike!

  • @oleterra
    @oleterra Před 2 lety

    wow, very happy i found this video with the original Colt, mine was manufactured in 1862, i just love making my paper cartridges and shooting it every month or so,,,,,,,,,,,, love the powder & smoke smells, thanks for showing and telling the history, cheers,,

  • @Chris-qv5mc
    @Chris-qv5mc Před 9 měsíci

    I know this is an older video but I just wanted to say I really enjoyed your stories and history lessons. I’ve got my eye on an 1860 army so thanks fir being my teacher.

  • @LanceisLawson
    @LanceisLawson Před 2 lety

    The 1860 is IMHO the best looking firearm ever made. I shoot my 1860 often and with good effect.

  • @deandeann1541
    @deandeann1541 Před 4 lety

    Mike, this was an exceptioally enjoyable video. Thanks!

  • @terrysmith8714
    @terrysmith8714 Před 2 lety

    What? Not better then your channel. You have the best channel Mike.

  • @tylerdixon3290
    @tylerdixon3290 Před 4 lety +2

    That chain fire caught me off guard lol. That reminded me of the chain fire I had in my double barrel caplock 12 gauge. One barrel misfired and the second shot set off both. 160 grains of fffg isnt very fun on the shoulder.

  • @duaneaubuchon9453
    @duaneaubuchon9453 Před 4 lety +1

    Very nice looking colt sir!!!

  • @adgom3739
    @adgom3739 Před 4 lety

    I warmly welcome. My name is Adam and I'm from Poland. I really enjoy watching your movies. In 1863 an uprising broke out against the partitioners in Poland. If we had such colts then I think that the Russians would get tengie spanked. Very great respect. Adam from Poland.

  • @johnmoore2346
    @johnmoore2346 Před 4 lety

    i think you are right with back story of the pistol. how many kids grand kids took the pistol out of the sock drawer or barn and shot them when no one was home and they never got cleaned.

  • @kenm8376
    @kenm8376 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. I like to see those old weapons being used. I have an original Colt Navy made in 1862. Some of those old guns really held up well. Mine has much of the finish remaining.

  • @totljag1
    @totljag1 Před rokem

    Awsome revolver

  • @nikitamckeever5403
    @nikitamckeever5403 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video Mike , I really like your 1861 army and if I owned one I’m in the same frame of mind as you , it was meant to be shot not looked at in a case . Update on us poor shooters in the Uk , one of the three clubs I am a member of has been given the go ahead by the government to re open after the lockdown caused by the pandemic . I have some .36 cartridges made up by capandball jig stored in my capandball period nearly correct boxes burning a hole in my pocket since lockdown ready for the range next week . I can’t wait . Keep the videos coming please and thank you . Keep the faith and stay safe .

  • @sgtmajtrapp3391
    @sgtmajtrapp3391 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting neat hun and history of that particular revolver

  • @zachpowell5048
    @zachpowell5048 Před 4 lety

    Mike i totally agree! Guns were meant to be used and thats what they were designed to do! Obviously some exceptions exist but i shoot 99% of my antiques. Keep up the great work!

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 Před 3 lety

    THANK YOU! GOD, I cannot tell you how many times I've had to explain to people, guns are made to be SHOT! You do an immense disservice to a gun by making it a permanent museum piece in your safe. It's like owning a car you never drive, a watch you never wear, or a tool you never use. If you aren't going to shoot it, don't buy it. Museums have their pieces already.

  • @mudweiser007
    @mudweiser007 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well there we go paper cartridges still do chain fire

  • @johnt.chambers4204
    @johnt.chambers4204 Před 4 lety

    I have a model 1894 Winchester that was made in 1896. I shoot it a lot. It is one of my favorite guns. Like you said; If it is in good shape, shoot it. That's what they were made for.

  • @35southkiwi16
    @35southkiwi16 Před 4 lety

    Great video as always.
    Also a fan of cap and ball channel. Hoping the chain fire didn't damage anything. Eagerly awaiting part2

  • @stevenlawson9460
    @stevenlawson9460 Před 4 lety

    Nice looking pistol

  • @napluvr4173
    @napluvr4173 Před 4 lety

    I agree, it's fine to shoot antique guns as long as they are mechanically sound. i shot an original civil war burnside cavalry carbine a month ago, and it i was putting lead downrange like it did 160 years ago, and it was thoroughly cleaned afterwards.

  • @rotaman8555
    @rotaman8555 Před 4 lety

    I love shooting the old guns! So long as you do the maintenance, they should be used. I shoot my grandfather’s Remington Rand 1911. I shoot my antique drilling. Nothing lasts forever.

  • @ShaddySoldier
    @ShaddySoldier Před 2 lety

    What a lovely piece, I hope one day I can get an original colt.

  • @wolfpack2723
    @wolfpack2723 Před 4 lety

    I am enjoy seeing ya get tickled with stuff. Keep it up, I have one of your shirts and a coffee mug now.

  • @afella1129
    @afella1129 Před 4 lety

    Sir you are very humble. I'm happy you didn't boast or talk down on the seller for asking too much for the gun. I would have chuckled a bit when I saw them come down to my price.

  • @Mikegastaldo
    @Mikegastaldo Před 4 lety

    Thanks for taking the time to make the video.it was great.im looking foreword to part 2..there's always something special about shooting the originals.thats just not there with the replicas....just my own personal fears/worries kinda always had me uneasy with the design of no top strap on such a powerful pistol. I know it's just fine.but it's always in the back of my mind.im much more at ease mentally with a Remington

  • @baird329
    @baird329 Před 4 lety

    Nice shooter

  • @dutchmcoven7292
    @dutchmcoven7292 Před 4 lety

    1928 desoto driver here. Never thought I should park it up and not drive it. Piece of history or not.

  • @patrickedwards7107
    @patrickedwards7107 Před 4 lety

    She looks to be in outstanding condition that's got to be like hopping into a time machine. I'm looking forward to rendezvous on a side note. in regards to the people saying not to shoot this revolver if anyone can load and operate it correctly it's you and I can think of no better way to honor the item and those who owned it previously it's a testament to craftsmanship.

  • @geoluc2357
    @geoluc2357 Před 4 lety

    Great vidéo ! Greetings from France 🇨🇵

  • @philb8338
    @philb8338 Před 4 lety

    When treated with the dignity and respect they earned and deserve, I don't have any problem with occasionally putting lead through a mechanically sound original. Shooting such a living example of history imparts a sense of fulfillment that can't be had from something manufactured the day before yesterday in another country, regardless of how true to design it is.

  • @RyeOnHam
    @RyeOnHam Před 4 lety

    When I was young, I bought a used Ruger 3-Screw revolver in .357 magnum. I checked it out and it seemed to have a light trigger, but then so did my old flat-top .44, so I didn't think anything of it. Loaded it up at the range and cocked the gun at low ready. It went off about two seconds later, still at low ready. I emptied the gun and sent it off to Ruger for the transfer-bar safety conversion.
    I don't shoot Black Powder, but a chain fire sounds terrifying.

  • @wagon9082
    @wagon9082 Před 4 lety +1

    good video

  • @friendsintruth6887
    @friendsintruth6887 Před 4 lety

    Nice example Mike 👍

  • @kylemichaels3373
    @kylemichaels3373 Před 3 lety

    I have a Pietta '51 Navy and a Uberti Case colored Remington with a Howell's .45 Colt conversion cylinder. Now I'm wanting another 1860 Army. I had a Pietta some time ago, also had a Rogers & Spencer from Dixie Gun Works. I always wanted a Starr DA but they're getting expensive.

  • @happymark1805
    @happymark1805 Před 4 lety +2

    I would not expect a chainfire with paper cardridges

  • @bunkstagner298
    @bunkstagner298 Před 4 lety

    Good for you shoot it! I cut my cap and ball teeth many years ago on an original Colt 1851 Navy from a cased set. I shot it with corrosive caps which ,was what we had at the time, Du Pont FFFg powder, and balls cast in the miserable little steel mold that was in the cased set. It was cleaned after shooting very carefully and it was not hurt at all. I wish I still had it.

    • @bunkstagner298
      @bunkstagner298 Před 2 lety

      It looks like the frame and back strap are cut for a shoulder stock, but there is no fame stud for one. i

  • @j1234321hotmail
    @j1234321hotmail Před 4 lety +1

    I may be wrong but don't Pietta cylinders interchange with Colt originals? That would make one less part to stress during firing. Just an idea... Like you I bought an 1860 army that saw years of intense service (mine cost a thousand bucks) and had an earlier barrel (1860) in front of a 1862 frame. For now, I'm waiting for some vacations to go shoot the ol' gal. Loved your video and can't wait for part 2!

  • @MoxieFirearms
    @MoxieFirearms Před rokem

    Diaries of the period suggest most revolver owners of the pre-cartridge period carried a powder flask, and leather bag of bullets and metal tin of primers. People back then gladly saved a penny for a little extra work. So no, they did not buy pre-made cartridges. That was considered a waste of money. Many gun owners continued to shoot cap and ball long after cartridge guns came to town because they didn't trust the cartridges, and they were so much more expensive.

  • @jonathandalton2921
    @jonathandalton2921 Před 4 lety +1

    cool gun , thanks for showing us, i also think , if its is in good condition , it should be used.

  • @garrow12225
    @garrow12225 Před 4 lety

    Great looking Colt! That’s pretty cool that there is no shoulder stock studs, I think they’re a pain on my Uberti 1860.

  • @YoderTexas
    @YoderTexas Před 4 lety

    What a coincidence. I was just think about writing to you earlier today about asking you if anyone had captured a chain fire on video and if it damages the gun. I will be watching for part 2 so I can hear your breakdown of what happened.

  • @ecmillerbud1
    @ecmillerbud1 Před 3 lety

    Nice gun. I did think that first shot was bit warm from the recoil. I figured a chain fire.

  • @PalmettoNDN
    @PalmettoNDN Před 4 lety

    Who's the one jerk that disliked this awesome video?

  • @bobhazeel
    @bobhazeel Před 4 lety +1

    I thought that first shot looked a little ‘lively’, hope no damage resulted; looking forward to part 2 to find out what caused it. Thanks for sharing with us.

  • @mwmwmwmwmmdw
    @mwmwmwmwmmdw Před 4 lety +2

    mike i wanted you to know you have helped get me into shooting black powder revolvers, even if they are as much a pain in the ass to legally own here in canada as any other modern handgun

    • @jordanhicks5131
      @jordanhicks5131 Před 3 lety

      That's lame. You cannuks should start making luty SMGs in protest. Teach your government that gun control is impossible and doesnt work

  • @MuskratOutdoors
    @MuskratOutdoors Před 4 lety +3

    It's in nice shape. Yeah, I shoot my originals too. What good are they if they aren't used?

  • @straightpipec6099
    @straightpipec6099 Před 4 lety

    Awesome

  • @murfrirhke4557
    @murfrirhke4557 Před 4 lety

    I believe I saw a bit of the paper get pinched between the bullet & the cylinder bore on the last load.

  • @steamenginewatt2712
    @steamenginewatt2712 Před 4 lety

    Great video! cool gun ! I think the first shot was the chain fire, and the second shot was a single chamber...

  • @jamesbasler1521
    @jamesbasler1521 Před 2 lety

    Cap and Ball is a good black powder channel but he has also mentioned you and your channel as well.....

  • @fepatton
    @fepatton Před 4 lety +1

    Great story and a great firearm! I hope to own one of these someday. For now, I just have the Pietta version. I'm curious - how did you know it was a chain fire?

  • @bibbyman2
    @bibbyman2 Před 4 lety +2

    Did the caps blow back against the shield and go off causing the chain fire?

  • @deandeann1541
    @deandeann1541 Před 4 lety

    A clean, properly maintained, well lubricated black powder revolver essentially does not wear if used. Theoretically it will wear slightly, but the wear would be completely unmeasurable.

  • @krockpotbroccoli65
    @krockpotbroccoli65 Před 4 lety

    Not too shabby for a 156 year old gun with an even older barrel.

  • @Tortie300
    @Tortie300 Před 4 lety

    Those conicals looked like they flew in the chamber when you used the ram. I would have suspect the fit between and chamber to be a lot tighter!

  • @eamonmcdermott4032
    @eamonmcdermott4032 Před 4 lety

    That was a nice bit of deductive reasoning, Mike. Might I draw your attention to the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.

  • @thompsonjerry3412
    @thompsonjerry3412 Před 4 lety

    Wish I could shoot them well, but my hands are too big, very cool gun!

  • @thesilentone7046
    @thesilentone7046 Před 4 lety

    ok mike when are you shooting that again cause im coming to the house we gonna have some fun. lol but seriously WOW that is gorgeous

  • @rodijabro6739
    @rodijabro6739 Před 4 lety

    Hi
    Do I still need a wad or do I need to lube the cylinder
    Or I can shoot the bullets with out lube

  • @albertcrabtree875
    @albertcrabtree875 Před 4 lety

    Hi Mike, could you recommend a 1860 Army repro. I could purchase. I would eventually like to put it into a case with the bullet mold and flask. Looking for best quality available. Thanks. Al

  • @damianalaniz1118
    @damianalaniz1118 Před 3 lety

    The tool that hold the lever comes off when I shoot it. I’ve punched in place but I really would love to solder it. Would you know someone who can help with that, Mike. Or how can I fix that?

  • @trapper-paul
    @trapper-paul Před 4 lety

    Looked like you had some trouble with the cylinder lining up.

  • @carlorou3257
    @carlorou3257 Před 4 lety +1

    Looked like the first shot was the one which caused the chainfire, right?

  • @sr633
    @sr633 Před 4 lety

    I know getting a Luger magazine number to match the rest of the gun with Swiss stamps was no problem back when.

  • @travelledhades7268
    @travelledhades7268 Před 2 lety

    I was having a discussion with a friend I met in hunt showdown. An it revolved around realoding the gun during a fire fight. He said a cap & ball gun couldn't be reloaded on the battlefield. Same with paper cartridges. I feel that its possible just harder then it is today. Maybe the caps would be the more complicated part.

    • @duelist1954
      @duelist1954  Před 2 lety

      In general, for the infantry, revolvers were a last ditch weapon, used when the fighting was close, fast and furious. There wasn't time to reload anything. In the cavalry, where revolvers were often the primary weapon, troopers carried several, often four to six fully loaded revolvers.So combat reloads were not the norm...but they did happen. Paper cartridges made the process much faster, but, you're right, capping was the slowest part of the operation.