My Audio-Technica CN5625AL cartridge kept backwards skipping on some rougher records, and I knew it must have had something to do with the antiskating, so I referred to your video for help. I followed your instructions carefully, and I'm happy to report my skipping woes are over! Thank you so much Jon for the help!
I have done all of this and the needle seems to skip occasionally especially when I am cueing vinyl in or spinning the middle to speed up the song what could the reason for this be?
For just plain listening this is important if you want the right sound. A stereo record have right and left channel on each side of the inner walls of the groove. The centrifugal force pulls the stylus in to the center of the record. This means there will be more force on one of the walls so you get more sound from one speaker. To fix this, the horizontal counter force must be set to equalize the centrifugal force vs. down force. When this is equalized you get correct sound from both speakers.
What if the anti-skate adj doesnt correct the arm moving outwards? My sl1200 wich I've dusted off, moves the tonearm outwards when I balance the arm in the air (counterwright set to when the tonearm cart is balanced horizontally in air). When I let go of the arm it moves outward with antiskate at zero. Moving antiskate a notch wont improve... Thanks.
I would like to thank you for helping me setup my tonearm, it is something I did not know how to do before, or even thought about it, your very smart and it is easy now, I had thought it was hard to do. I have more then one turntable. One is from england, transcriptors, I guess the instructions is for more/most tonearms, I guess?. Thanks so much. I like your vids.
Managed to get my left 1210 setup correctly for anti-skating to the needle doesnt move on the blank record (had to turn it to 3), however I cant get the right deck to do the same, even on 3 it still moves slowly from middle to end but quite slowly, Im guessing theres nothing I can do as the anti skating is maxed out unless someone can give me any other tips. Both decks are sat flat on a Sefour Deck Stand. Anybody got any ideas?
Great video I have a Kam DDX 750 turntable but I think my spring has broken so I need to try to mend it but I don't want to make it worse I just need to no how to take it apart but I can't seem to find any videos on here whatsoever
just got a big 960. worked a week then started skating bad couldn't adjust it to save my life turns out spring broke off the anti skate. any idea how to fix? not sure what size spring or even how to put a new one in.
hey mate! I have a problem with gemini tt1000! When I bought it I balanced the all, but found himself in the Issue will ba anti skate my work at all, and when you scratch a little tone arm moves, but nothing terrible. whether it is by default done or ..? Thanks in advance
thanks for the vid but still i dont understand what the use is of anti skating.. will needle stay on the same position when there is no track? Why should you want that? when you play tracks that is quite usseless? Im a noob though so what do you win with this anti skating?
Couldn't you work there same way as with riding pitch finding the correct spot. While the needle is on the record and record is spinning you notice it drives to one direction while this happens turn the skating so you eventually get it to stay still?
Yo mate, the anti skating should be set at the same value as you have your counter weight set at. So if you are tracking at 3grams you set the anti skating at 3.
And my collection consists of about 1700 records. Some by artists such as... Robert Hood, Jeff Mills, Dj Sneak, Cajmere, Plastikman, Ian Pooley and so on. I'd rather die than loose all these amazing records. So if you know any way in which i can get my height adjustment to move again. It would be much appreciated man.
i assume if you put it anywhere on the record it should stay in the same place because i have 1 deck that if you put it at near the start or finish it moves back to the center of the record and if you turn the anti skate it moves back to the start but never moves to the finish, i did change the tone arm on 1 deck so maybe its this one, any fixes for this?
@curtis8516 omg i love that song haha, fleetwood mac is amazing, im only 21 so i have memories of listening to it with my dad in the car as a kid, great song!
I think he forgot to instruct you to back off the weight at the rear of the tonearm. When I have the correct tracking force set the needle will always drop straight down onto the record no matter what the anti-skate is set to.
...and for DJ's I guess it is extra important since they scratch the record back and forth, so with no equalizing of weight and forces, the stylus skates all over the place... I tried to reply to Dwaas88, but that didn't work :P
That shouldn't be happening. Readjust your vertical tracking force (weight) to what is recommended by your cartridge manufacturer, and then make sure your turntable is PERFECTLY LEVEL. Now try adjusting your anti-skate again.
Agreed. Also, look at the way q-bert basically FORCED that counterweight into position like that, in his video. That poor Technics :( (: Anyone who turns a counterweight, points to the scale and says "I don't even know what the hell that does", and then proceeds to turn the counterweight the wrong way around, has no business setting up turntables.
Antiskate should only be used for playback or recording purposes. I have found that If your scratching and cuing the needle tends to jump out of the groove with antiskate on.
This theory, that a tone arm should be motionless on a groove-less spinning disc is absolutely incorrect according to a phonograph technician I spoke with at length. Actually doing as this theory advocates can cause irreparable damage to the record and stylus. Actually, Anti-Skate is supposed to add a very small (slight) amount of outward force (toward the edge of record) DEFINITELY NOT CAUSING THE TONEARM TO BE MOTIONLESS. With the proper amount of Anti-Skate applied, the TONEARM will still move toward the center of the groove-less disc but at a slightly slower rate of speed compared to the slightly faster inward speed of TONEARM movement if no Anti-Skate was applied.
I get really paranoid when i use my Technics 1210 mk2's. i know if your anti scating and shit isn't set properly, it can damage vinyl. This is a problem for me as i have a hyper hyper rare collection of old house and techno. On one of my turntables, the height adjustment is stuck on the highest it can go. It literally won't budge at all. Can it damage my record if it is that high up. ? this is a huge worry for me as i'm only 16 and don't have the cash to replace this expensive shit.
@Sub Fuzion: it depend on your perception, If you don't care about sound quality then it will be just fine, and they are a lot of missinformation out in the internet, that to mush tracking force will damage the grove of your record faster, and that his not truth, unless it his way over exagerated weight, someone on CZcams did a test, and did on puprose to go way over the max out amount to see what a damage grove sound like, the music still plays on a damage grove, the sound quality goes down, by having more surface sound.
@Sub fuzion: also if you have a collection that you want to play, then you play them ,because no one actually knows how long the quality last, because people can claim on thing, and the other person can claim another thing, even if they end-up doing the same thing to their record, because even testing it scientificly would not work, because diffrent record as diffrent quality runing time, and sometimes it can be the tourntable itself that start to play in bad quality, for example: this his just an example it did not happen to someone, but it could happen to someone. here his the example: the Record player itself his old, and the user does not relize the bad sound quality his from the Record player, and it his a bad sound quality so he thinks it his the Vinyl so he snap the Vinyl in half and toss it in the trash, he go and buy a new copy, that his in good condition, and plays it on his Record player, bad sound quality, so he relize, that he snap his old Vinyl for nothing, because it was the record player, not the Vinyl Record.
I know this post is from 6 months ago, but I figured I'd reply anyway. It sounds like your turntable is not level. Use a bubble level, to help you fix this.
This might be me being a dick, but isn't adding "I" to the end if a word meant to imply plurality? How many, styli, or "needles", or "styluses" are on your turntable? If more than one, that's why your records may sound strange.. :/
By ear. You start with zero anti-skate. Play a short clip, preferably with a female voice that rises in tone. Listen for her voice as it rises - it should move from one speaker to the other... which is not what you want. Increase AS slightly, then play it again. When the voice is fixed between the speakers and does not waver, you have it set correctly. This is how the experts do it (e.g., Helmut Brinkmann, Fremer, and many others).
My Audio-Technica CN5625AL cartridge kept backwards skipping on some rougher records, and I knew it must have had something to do with the antiskating, so I referred to your video for help. I followed your instructions carefully, and I'm happy to report my skipping woes are over! Thank you so much Jon for the help!
My needle doesnt jump on all my vinyls but some he jumps when I cue it very annoying but I set anti-skate but it doesnt work...
I have done all of this and the needle seems to skip occasionally especially when I am cueing vinyl in or spinning the middle to speed up the song what could the reason for this be?
Thank you for not being boring as hell. Such an awesome video.
You're clips are class!
So much great advice, thanks mate!
Legend you are!
For just plain listening this is important if you want the right sound. A stereo record have right and left channel on each side of the inner walls of the groove. The centrifugal force pulls the stylus in to the center of the record. This means there will be more force on one of the walls so you get more sound from one speaker. To fix this, the horizontal counter force must be set to equalize the centrifugal force vs. down force. When this is equalized you get correct sound from both speakers.
What about taping a penny on cartridge?
Could i use a CD instead of the blank vinyl?
just curious does ani skating help with slightly(about 3-5mm) warped vinyl,
to shinri1, thanks for all your comments , they have been a great help to me and i'm sure they will be a help to others.
thanks
johnathan
What if the anti-skate adj doesnt correct the arm moving outwards?
My sl1200 wich I've dusted off, moves the tonearm outwards when I balance the arm in the air (counterwright set to when the tonearm cart is balanced horizontally in air). When I let go of the arm it moves outward with antiskate at zero. Moving antiskate a notch wont improve... Thanks.
I would like to thank you for helping me setup my tonearm, it is something I did not know how to do before, or even thought about it, your very smart and it is easy now, I had thought it was hard to do. I have more then one turntable. One is from england, transcriptors, I guess the instructions is for more/most tonearms, I guess?. Thanks so much. I like your vids.
What do u do when anti skip has no effect it just makes tge needle skip a bit slower?
Managed to get my left 1210 setup correctly for anti-skating to the needle doesnt move on the blank record (had to turn it to 3), however I cant get the right deck to do the same, even on 3 it still moves slowly from middle to end but quite slowly, Im guessing theres nothing I can do as the anti skating is maxed out unless someone can give me any other tips. Both decks are sat flat on a Sefour Deck Stand.
Anybody got any ideas?
Great video I have a Kam DDX 750 turntable but I think my spring has broken so I need to try to mend it but I don't want to make it worse I just need to no how to take it apart but I can't seem to find any videos on here whatsoever
just got a big 960. worked a week then started skating bad couldn't adjust it to save my life turns out spring broke off the anti skate. any idea how to fix? not sure what size spring or even how to put a new one in.
how do you get the green led on the pitch indicator on when its in the middle? like automatically. not pressing reset..
how tight are the screws holding the stylus to the headshell need to be?...just to know....
does this apply to 1210's aswelll ???
question prob been asked a million times!!!
but anyone know ???
hey mate! I have a problem with gemini tt1000! When I bought it I balanced the all, but found himself in the Issue will ba anti skate my work at all, and when you scratch a little tone arm moves, but nothing terrible. whether it is by default done or ..? Thanks in advance
Hey there.
What do you do on how to stop the skipping if it's in the actual record itself?
Is all you need a turntable to basicly scratch and just have fun with it, or do you need like speakers and some other stuff?
thanks for the vid
but still i dont understand what the use is of anti skating.. will needle stay on the same position when there is no track? Why should you want that? when you play tracks that is quite usseless? Im a noob though so what do you win with this anti skating?
i have a philco model K-1633X-121 and it is very very old. the needle keeps jumping half the time. what do i do?
Save my life with this vid 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Couldn't you work there same way as with riding pitch finding the correct spot. While the needle is on the record and record is spinning you notice it drives to one direction while this happens turn the skating so you eventually get it to stay still?
Nice video. Enjoy dem crumpets!!
good vid fully understood that it was as clear as mud
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Yo mate, the anti skating should be set at the same value as you have your counter weight set at. So if you are tracking at 3grams you set the anti skating at 3.
great table
Nice advice.
What do I do if I don't have an anti Skating ?
😂thank you! I had my record on the wrong side. I was freaking out!
Great vid hope you fixed your deck
thanks bro.....now i need to find a calibration video
You the best bro 👍😎
Very helpful. Thanks.
Christopher Gerety pleasure
And my collection consists of about 1700 records. Some by artists such as... Robert Hood, Jeff Mills, Dj Sneak, Cajmere, Plastikman, Ian Pooley and so on. I'd rather die than loose all these amazing records. So if you know any way in which i can get my height adjustment to move again. It would be much appreciated man.
i assume if you put it anywhere on the record it should stay in the same place because i have 1 deck that if you put it at near the start or finish it moves back to the center of the record and if you turn the anti skate it moves back to the start but never moves to the finish, i did change the tone arm on 1 deck so maybe its this one, any fixes for this?
is that a tiger army vinyl? =D
Never knew you liked Mokum Hardcore xD
Haha, Mokum slipmat! Respect!
very helpful..
what do you do if you dont have anti-skate and it keeps jumping..what then...thats my problem
@psykick77 and an amp you forgot the amp
Hell yeah!
@curtis8516 omg i love that song haha, fleetwood mac is amazing, im only 21 so i have memories of listening to it with my dad in the car as a kid, great song!
thanks mate
Good video man 5*
Where do you start the anti skate to start with? This didn't help me at all. Who has a record with a blank side? Geewiz
I have multiple lol. If you dig around for some old promos in bargain bins, you will probably find one!
@techtester45 a mixer and speakers help a little. lolz
I think he forgot to instruct you to back off the weight at the rear of the tonearm. When I have the correct tracking force set the needle will always drop straight down onto the record no matter what the anti-skate is set to.
Cheers big ears. Thanks. :o)
...and for DJ's I guess it is extra important since they scratch the record back and forth, so with no equalizing of weight and forces, the stylus skates all over the place...
I tried to reply to Dwaas88, but that didn't work :P
That shouldn't be happening. Readjust your vertical tracking force (weight) to what is recommended by your cartridge manufacturer, and then make sure your turntable is PERFECTLY LEVEL.
Now try adjusting your anti-skate again.
Agreed. Also, look at the way q-bert basically FORCED that counterweight into position like that, in his video. That poor Technics :( (:
Anyone who turns a counterweight, points to the scale and says "I don't even know what the hell that does", and then proceeds to turn the counterweight the wrong way around, has no business setting up turntables.
I just do it by ear with a normal record, you can clearly hear it if you have half an ear. Try it. It might be different for 45 rpm.
Amsterdam!!!!
Right, I had to check out at 4:32
yes it can, you need to fix that
Antiskate should only be used for playback or recording purposes. I have found that If your scratching and cuing the needle tends to jump out of the groove with antiskate on.
oh really?
This theory, that a tone arm should be motionless on a groove-less spinning disc is absolutely incorrect according to a phonograph technician I spoke with at length. Actually doing as this theory advocates can cause irreparable damage to the record and stylus.
Actually, Anti-Skate is supposed to add a very small (slight) amount of outward force (toward the edge of record) DEFINITELY NOT CAUSING THE TONEARM TO BE MOTIONLESS. With the proper amount of Anti-Skate applied, the TONEARM will still move toward the center of the groove-less disc but at a slightly slower rate of speed compared to the slightly faster inward speed of TONEARM movement if no Anti-Skate was applied.
Why didn't you use a turntable with a functioning anti-skate mechanism?
Technics turnatble, Vestax Needle
some have automatic anti skate.
I forgot to say that it happened on both decks
why some people touch the blody surface of the record? It should be a law against it.
Grandmaster flash was told that when me was inventing the use for this turntable. Oh and inventing hip hop and whole concept of rap etc.
MOKUM RECORDS!!
I get really paranoid when i use my Technics 1210 mk2's. i know if your anti scating and shit isn't set properly, it can damage vinyl. This is a problem for me as i have a hyper hyper rare collection of old house and techno. On one of my turntables, the height adjustment is stuck on the highest it can go. It literally won't budge at all. Can it damage my record if it is that high up. ? this is a huge worry for me as i'm only 16 and don't have the cash to replace this expensive shit.
@Sub Fuzion: it depend on your perception, If you don't care about sound quality then it will be just fine, and they are a lot of missinformation out in the internet, that to mush tracking force will damage the grove of your record faster, and that his not truth, unless it his way over exagerated weight, someone on CZcams did a test, and did on puprose to go way over the max out amount to see what a damage grove sound like, the music still plays on a damage grove, the sound quality goes down, by having more surface sound.
@Sub fuzion: also if you have a collection that you want to play, then you play them ,because no one actually knows how long the quality last, because people can claim on thing, and the other person can claim another thing, even if they end-up doing the same thing to their record, because even testing it scientificly would not work, because diffrent record as diffrent quality runing time, and sometimes it can be the tourntable itself that start to play in bad quality, for example: this his just an example it did not happen to someone, but it could happen to someone. here his the example: the Record player itself his old, and the user does not relize the bad sound quality his from the Record player, and it his a bad sound quality so he thinks it his the Vinyl so he snap the Vinyl in half and toss it in the trash, he go and buy a new copy, that his in good condition, and plays it on his Record player, bad sound quality, so he relize, that he snap his old Vinyl for nothing, because it was the record player, not the Vinyl Record.
I know this post is from 6 months ago, but I figured I'd reply anyway.
It sounds like your turntable is not level. Use a bubble level, to help you fix this.
@psykick77 duhh lol i wanna learn
14 years ago 😂 guess I’m old Skool
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You need to change the weight of tone arm to higher rate. That should solve your problem.
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This might be me being a dick, but isn't adding "I" to the end if a word meant to imply plurality? How many, styli, or "needles", or "styluses" are on your turntable? If more than one, that's why your records may sound strange.. :/
who has a one sided record!?
I have 2 one sided records
HAHAHA. Mokum slipmat!
AS can never be reliably set with a groove less record! Think about it: the forces on the cantilever are not the same on a record with no grooves!
By ear. You start with zero anti-skate. Play a short clip, preferably with a female voice that rises in tone. Listen for her voice as it rises - it should move from one speaker to the other... which is not what you want.
Increase AS slightly, then play it again.
When the voice is fixed between the speakers and does not waver, you have it set correctly.
This is how the experts do it (e.g., Helmut Brinkmann, Fremer, and many others).
its fine now, the anti-skating sprig was screwed up. thanks anyways
With an empty vinyl works better
no its one of stantons low end tables...
I don't have a record with a blank side!
Well then like me you're fucked.
Use a cd :)
Right!
Now then 🙂
Just leave it on zero. That works fine
I agree, he can't set up his decks to save his life.
Why make a 6 min video to then not show how to adjust it?
Oh let me post a video explaining something that I don't know anything about.
Maybe your voice is muffled too much ? Otherwise , this is what I wanted to know .
Demonstrating how to set anti skate with a broken anti skate. Brilliant. FAIL!!!
hey man , i need some 1200's i know you got about 20 set's of em !...LOL! ..let me buy a set form you for about $600.00 (american dollars)...LOL!
You said your turn table was 30 years old? That looks like an audio technica lp 120, which isn’t even close to 30 years old
The lp120 is a copy of this turntable.
Helvetica Scenario ahh okay makes sense lol,
put a penny on the needle