2020 Santa Cruz Tallboy VS Direct to Consumer bike the Propain Hugene

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  • čas přidán 28. 06. 2020
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Komentáře • 88

  • @mtbyumyum
    @mtbyumyum  Před 4 lety +12

    Thanks for watching! Please consider purchasing your bikes or mtb gear via the link in the description below the video. Thank you! Santa Cruz Tallboy: bit.ly/33boSKj
    Propain Hugene: www.propain-bikes.com/us/bike...

    • @testalino
      @testalino Před 4 lety

      FYI The propain link does not work for me.

    • @christiandalelazo1752
      @christiandalelazo1752 Před 3 lety

      Hi sir can you give me a Santa Cruz bike please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 because that's my dream and favorite bike in all time I don't have money to buy it 😔😭🙏🙏🙏 please 🙏 thanks again 😔🥰🥰I'm from Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭 sir please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @andrewgreenwood8727
    @andrewgreenwood8727 Před 4 lety +3

    Have you demoed the Forbidden Druid" high pivot ' looks awesome !! 👍👌🚵🌲🌲🌲🚵🌲 Loved the comparison of the direct & bike shop ! Between the two bike manufacturer's 👍

  • @dannyj893
    @dannyj893 Před 4 lety +3

    I really enjoy your videos man! Keep up the good work.

  • @dcouture79
    @dcouture79 Před 4 lety +1

    Manufacturer support and serviceability is huge and needs to be considered when buying a high end bike like these. Santa Cruz has the support down, they’re awesome and take care of their customers. Also, there are lots of dealers around so if you need service you can usually get to a local bike shop. Love my new Tallboy!!

  • @MiguelRodriguez-uy5vc
    @MiguelRodriguez-uy5vc Před 4 lety +4

    Nice review as usual. Have you thought about reviewing the new Evil The Following V3 yet?

  • @ZippidyMTB
    @ZippidyMTB Před 4 lety +22

    Waiting on your review of the Revel Ranger

  • @thetom5520
    @thetom5520 Před 4 lety +9

    Would be great if you could do such a video on the Bronson vs Tyee 27.5"

  • @travelthenarrowtrail8660
    @travelthenarrowtrail8660 Před 4 lety +2

    Jason, totally agree with you on the Tallboy's "deep feeling". It feels like it's more than 120mm of travel, it's strange because the Hightower doesn't give me that feeling. One thing I would also say is the warranty on a Santa Cruz bike is beyond phenomenal! One of these days I'll have to tell you a little story of my first hand experience with them. I know they have this mystique about their warranty but I can totally say its true.

  • @Davis18361
    @Davis18361 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thought u stopped uploading for a minute and was looking for the videos!

  • @vonrunner
    @vonrunner Před 4 lety

    Great info, always enjoy your reviews! Any chance you plan on riding the new Transition Sentinel? Would be cool to hear your thoughts on it.

  • @billw_mtb3220
    @billw_mtb3220 Před 4 lety +8

    Great comparison! I really like these newer geometry short/mid travel trail bikes. I have yet to ride anything on the new Tallboy that i felt under gunned compared to a OG Hightower (or similar travel) bike.
    I think a direct to consumer bike could make sense for a lot of folks who are comfortable doing their own wrenching. I personally can do most of the wrenching, however I really like the folks in the LBS's around here and it is worth it to me to support them.

  • @benc.8103
    @benc.8103 Před 3 lety +2

    Nice to watch a local guy give honest reviews.

  • @testalino
    @testalino Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for this comparison, much appreciated. I wish propain would offer a shimano build as well. What's the weight difference in this spec?

  • @jymtb
    @jymtb Před 4 lety

    Super helpful. Appreciate the real world comparison.

  • @Drogos79
    @Drogos79 Před 3 lety +2

    definitely most relevant bike reviews on interwebs....right on with pink bike and bike mag

  • @rotker1
    @rotker1 Před 4 lety +14

    Hi, Propain Tyee CF 29 test please!

  • @jonundercover
    @jonundercover Před 3 lety +1

    Great video again. I’ve just bought the new updated Hugene. It looks like it’s had some great updates, like the geometry. It’s also now 140/140

    • @leejohnh22
      @leejohnh22 Před 3 lety +1

      How do you like the bike so far? Any comparisons in how the suspension feels climbing and descending? Sprightly or Calm? Poppy or planted?

    • @jonundercover
      @jonundercover Před 3 lety +1

      @@leejohnh22 I’m afraid it hasn’t arrived yet I’m on a waiting list. I’ll let you know 👍

    • @bojantarbuk7188
      @bojantarbuk7188 Před 2 lety

      @@jonundercover Hi, I’m wondering if you got your bike after a year and what’s your experience? ☺️

  • @nickrogers6441
    @nickrogers6441 Před 4 lety

    I bought my son and I Commencal bikes this spring. The value for money is second to none. But we are fortunate enough to live 40 mins away from their Canadian "show room". So I could try the bikes for size etc. Maybe that's the best of both worlds??

  • @elijahpestana3123
    @elijahpestana3123 Před 4 lety

    Review the Fezzari la sal peak! Fezzari is a direct to consumer band based here in Utah.

  • @Davis18361
    @Davis18361 Před 4 lety

    An SB115 video would be great to see if you can get your hands on one.

  • @ThatTutorGuy1
    @ThatTutorGuy1 Před 4 lety

    I wonder how much of the ride difference is shocks? X2 can be way less poppy (depending on spacers) than smaller can shocks. My Hightower really changed when I went x2.

  • @cliffsangelsphotography

    My only concern with direct-to-consumer bikes are fitting. I bought a Commencal Meta HT and it was absolutely great. But the sizing barely fit me and I should've sized down. I'd definitely do direct-to-consumer again, but I at least need a means to demo it locally to be certain of the fit.
    But I built a Ripmo 💪 Best bike ever!!! 💪

  • @jcmymtb1258
    @jcmymtb1258 Před 4 lety +1

    I do really like the Propain, but I already have my eyes on the new SB115.

  • @andrewgreenwood8727
    @andrewgreenwood8727 Před 4 lety

    Really enjoyed your video between the two bikes, but would love you to Review 2 bikes that are getting rave reviews ' The Transition sentinel V2 & Forbidden Druid !!!! 👍👌🤙🚵🌲🌲🚵🌲🌲🌲🤞

  • @mrrims
    @mrrims Před 4 lety

    Nice comparison. These days it’s a great idea to support your LBS. hard to beat a Santa Cruz though!

  • @andrejmuzeka1177
    @andrejmuzeka1177 Před 3 lety

    My experience is that I almost always buy better in the shop ( dealer of Trust ), of course I not only include the purchase of the bike here, but also the service afterwards, or if something is Borken or Little things then someone is there immediately and helps me it usually costs nothing or only a fraction , of course you get more bike for less money with onlineshops companies, but I have to say that I always got a discount when buying a bike in the shop and the difference was only minimal to the online one.

  • @pinoyurbantactical3374

    Cant wait for you to try 2020 specialized enduro thanks😀👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @ZillaYT
    @ZillaYT Před 4 lety +1

    Nice. Warranty is another factor to consider. Santa Cruz has lifetime warranty on their frames, while Propain only has 3 years for aluminum and 5 years carbon.

    • @martincantwell2557
      @martincantwell2557 Před 4 lety

      Good point. but I think most people don't usually hang onto their bike much longer then 3-4 yrs before selling and upgrading.

  • @havenoutdoors584
    @havenoutdoors584 Před 4 lety

    You need to ride the new Transition Spark! Looks like a contender fo sho!

  • @alexlamy1271
    @alexlamy1271 Před 4 lety

    Amigo Yumyum would you make a Review of Commencal Tr 29 and tell us a how to feel ..✌🏻

  • @dank6761
    @dank6761 Před 4 lety

    Basically, do you want the better made more thought out frame or Kashima...

  • @the3rddeck78
    @the3rddeck78 Před 4 lety

    can you share what trail you taped this video on? That's a rad lookin area

  • @kurtalmendras3186
    @kurtalmendras3186 Před 4 lety

    I really appreciate the side by side comparison. Have you done a side by side comparison of Shimano to SRAM brakes? With all of the bikes you've ridden, you probably have some deep insight into the pros and cons of each. I'd love to hear what you have to say about them.

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 4 lety +1

      After all the many bikes I've ridden, I prefer Shimano drivetrain and brakes although I'm happy to ride either one. When I build a bike of my own, it gets Shimano bits.

    • @kurtalmendras3186
      @kurtalmendras3186 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mtbyumyum Thanks for the input, Jason. Your channel was the first MTB channel I subscribed to. I came across it as I was researching the purchase of my first full-suspension bike. I feel like I know the fun sections of Jacob's Ladder like I know my local trails.

  • @merrr9738
    @merrr9738 Před 3 lety

    Propain is the best MTB maker now rising❤

  • @pulsedistl3460
    @pulsedistl3460 Před 4 lety +1

    With the fox fork you got 150mm not 1400

  • @Gransport1965
    @Gransport1965 Před 4 lety +1

    Have you upforked the Ripley to 140 yet?

  • @okkeloof6461
    @okkeloof6461 Před 3 lety

    ich hatte das selbe Problem es hat mir extrem geholfen mir ein neuen Steuersatz gekauft habe und das ligt nicht an propain weil ich das bei yt tues auch hatte

  • @Hawlkeye-e9p
    @Hawlkeye-e9p Před 4 lety

    Bottom outs on any bike can be addressed. Smb however is a whole other topic. If a bike scares me on the down or i feel unstable. Game over. My saftey outweighs any performance option.

  • @SevenDragons
    @SevenDragons Před 4 lety +3

    Hi, Propain Tyee CF 2020 PLS

  • @msaa8993
    @msaa8993 Před 2 lety

    hi you got video on Santa Cruz Nomad 2021?

  • @vrudy6
    @vrudy6 Před 3 lety

    Excellent comparo

  • @pooyuu9186
    @pooyuu9186 Před 3 lety +1

    Hard to decide when SANTA CRUZ is in line

  • @ultimateberzerk4603
    @ultimateberzerk4603 Před 4 lety

    You still dont get it, the propain hugene has a Fox 150mm Fork 🙈

  • @serpent7677
    @serpent7677 Před 4 lety

    Jacobs is so Poppy and Composed

  • @francescocrea525
    @francescocrea525 Před rokem

    What size should a 5’11” guy get?

  • @Synth2000
    @Synth2000 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent

  • @markingram2983
    @markingram2983 Před 3 lety +2

    How about a Ripley and Tallboy Comparison?

  • @stiingya
    @stiingya Před 2 lety

    I had the wrong year bike. My bad!
    the tallboy does NOT have a slacker head tube angle than the Hugene? There is nothing "more modern" about the Tallboy's geo that would make it have you sit "in" as apposed to "over" on the Hugene??? And looks like a 36 on your Hugene which seems like that would be the 150mm fork build so you should have had a slacker HTA and ALSO a steeper STA? Yet your saying the 120/130 bike was better on the descent? That's weird...?

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 2 lety +1

      2019 Hugene hta 67 degrees sta 74.5 degrees.... not sure what you're talking about?

    • @stiingya
      @stiingya Před 2 lety

      @@mtbyumyum WELL.... egg on my face. I did not notice it was the older bike... I did not think they brought the older Hugene to the US. I thought the US Hugene sales were the updated frame. Sorry... I stand corrected.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 Před rokem

    Mail order: You save a good deal of money.
    Bike shop: You can throw the bike on your car and drive it to the shop if there are any issues.

  • @MrOberliX
    @MrOberliX Před 3 lety

    tyee test pls

  • @jymtb
    @jymtb Před 4 lety +1

    How do these bikes compare to your Revel Rascal?

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 4 lety

      very similar actually!!

    • @jymtb
      @jymtb Před 4 lety

      @@mtbyumyum Thanks for the reply. There seems to be in interesting convergence in bike categories right now. You have a recent crop of short travel 29'ers (Tallboy, Ripley, new Spur?) that are becoming all the more capable on the descents and then you have trail focused longer-travel 29'ers on the other end with climbing capabilities that were once typically attributed to the ST bikes. Even geometry is shared b/w the two groups. Bikes like Rascal seems to sit right in between both categories. I guess it's a great problem to have and will probably come down to saddle time to figure out what suits the rider best.

  • @jimwhite8497
    @jimwhite8497 Před 4 lety

    That Hugene looks like the "High End" version, that sells for $7,299.

    • @testalino
      @testalino Před 4 lety +1

      High end has AXS components and XX1 crankset. Also a better wheelset. I would say it is more a performance version with fox suspension and the price difference between the suspension stuff should be minimal.

  • @tom2038
    @tom2038 Před 4 lety

    You going to do the new 5010?

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 4 lety +1

      yes, just a matter of getting one for a couple days

    • @tom2038
      @tom2038 Před 4 lety

      @@mtbyumyum sweet. Trying to decide between that the ripmo, the MOJO, and the sb130.

  • @epicwarrior1018
    @epicwarrior1018 Před 4 lety +4

    The man's sitting on the tallboy at the end of the vid. HIs decision's made.

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 4 lety +1

      Haha thats just because the saddle dropped lower so it was easier to chill on for a bit when I filmed this lol

  • @iliyadavoodipour6366
    @iliyadavoodipour6366 Před 3 lety

    him: you cant go wrong with buying eather one!
    me: of cource i can. with the amount of money santa cruz coasts i could buy propain bikes for my whole family xD

    • @mtbyumyum
      @mtbyumyum  Před 3 lety +1

      haha good point... and they make excellent bikes!!

  • @meteormedia7021
    @meteormedia7021 Před 4 lety +1

    To be perfectly honest, the answer to the question "Tallboy or Hugene?" is probably Norco Optic.

  • @lenfrandsen7315
    @lenfrandsen7315 Před 4 lety

    Fezzari = direct to consumer - plus return policy - plus built in your back yard, cmon man!

  • @pcarts232
    @pcarts232 Před 3 lety

    I think the Tallboy is sluggish at climbing tbh

  • @acastillo0319
    @acastillo0319 Před rokem

    it's good for fitness and health until you fall and hurt yourself O_o 🙈

  • @David-rb3tk
    @David-rb3tk Před 4 lety

    Geez, what a lot of waffle about nothing. Is there a there a 30 day return on the 10 minutes I wasted?