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솔직히 이가은은 100퍼 조작의 희생자라고 생각했음.... 매 순발식마다 10위밖으로는 떨어진적이 없는 사람이 갑자기 14위라는게 이상했음. 진짜 이가은 누구보다 간절한게 보였는데 안준영 평생 천벌받아라. 그리고 이가은한테 어떻게해서든 보상해라
이게다 문재인 잘못임
@@브베tv-r5r 정신병자냐
원래 5위였다니....ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
@@브베tv-r5r 에효......꼭 연관성 1도 없는 일에서 갑자기 어떤 몇몇 뭣 같은 아가들이 정부 탓 하더라.....
만약 조작하지않았다면...
가희는 시즌 2 3 김종현이랑 이가은 보면서 뭔 생각을 했을까... 특히 이가은은 가희 나가고 그 자리에 들어와서 더더욱 맘이 아플듯..ㅠ
@@user-ze4dp2nk5i 엥 아니요 가희 애프터스쿨 졸업하고 가희 빈 자리를 이가은이 채웠었어요 그런데 이가은 들어오고 얼마 지나지 않아서 애프터스쿨 활동이 뜸해졌구요
@@user-ze4dp2nk5i 솔직히 영상 제대로 안봤다 ㅇㅈ?
@the cloud 8 근데 왜 탈퇴가 아닌 졸업이라고 표현하는건가요?
@the cloud 8 ㅇㅎㅇㅎ 그러쿤요 덕분에 알아갑니다
@@wiglewigleee 왜 뭐라하냐 요즘 애들은 애프터스쿨도 모름
이가은 김종현 이해인 이진혁 ㄹㅇ 엠넷에 놀아난애들 개빡쳐 ㅈㄴ 불쌍해ㅠㅠ
+) 자꾸 김종현 얘기 하시는데ㅠㅠㅜ 제가 댓글쓸 당시에는 조작멤버 밝혀지기 전이라 추측으로 썼던 글이에요 이젠 아니까 자꾸 뭐라하지마세요...
그리고 김민규도요ㅜㅜ
이가은이랑 김종현은 데뷔를했었는데 공백기간이 너무 길었고 이진혁까지 세명은 데뷔를 해도 인기가 없어서ㅠㅠ 힘들었고 이해인은 실력도 좋고 인성도ㅠ좋은거 같은데 악편과 수차례의 오디션으로 힘들텐데ㅠㅠ 그래도 민규는 아직 많은 기회가 있을거에요 이제 시작이니
낄낄 김종현이 워너원에 안 어울리고 이건 맞는데 데뷔 가능성은 높았음.. 학교에서도 김종현 유명했고 떨어졌을 때 오픈채팅 엄청 시끄러웠음 인지도도 플디즈 중에서도 황민현이랑 제일 높았던걸로 기억함 아 물론 개인적인 의견
셋은 맞는데 김종현은 모르겠음 나도 프듀2 열심히 봤는데 댓글 말처럼 플디 표 분산된 게 너무 커서... 그렇게 따지면 프듀2에선 불쌍한 애가 너무 많음
김종현은 솔직히 엠넷도 엠넷인데 소속사가 데뷔 못하게 한 거 아니냐 끌디 디져~~~
저둘이 해서 데뷔해도 나쁘지않을텐데 아 플디지 내가뭘 기대하냐 플디 한테
가은이 탈플했음 애프터스쿨도 탈했던데
배우들 있는 소속사로 갔던데
앺스는 진작에 멤버거의나가서 3명남았었음
플디한테 너무 뭘기대하면 안돼요 ᆢ
플레디스는 소속 여자아이돌들 캐어를 ㅈ도 안해줌ㄹㅇ
플디는 왜 인재를 방치하고 버려둔거야,,너무 아까운데
플디한테 뭘 바랍니까... 성순지 승순지 후레자식
지금은 개인사정 땜에 플디 출신 탈덕했지만 플디가 일 제대로 하는거 본 적 없음. 전에 누구더라? 그 프듀 1 나와서 데뷔한 애들 몇이랑 못한 애들 몇이랑 그룹 만들었었는데 신인치고 잘됐고 신인상도 받았었음. 근데 그대-로 컴백 안 시키다가 결국 해체. 진짜 무슨 이유에서였는지 상상도 안간다;;
@@인간-o5s 프리스틴...ㅜㅠ
이가은이 2012년도에 팀 합류던데 플디 그 때 뉴이스트 살리느라 정신없었을 걸요
뭘 새삼스럽게..플디 특이잖아요
아이즈원에 안 어울린다는게 탈락의 공정한 이유냐?
등수대로 데뷔하는 게 원칙이잖아.... 니들 지금 아이즈원이랑 안 어울리긴 했다 이 말 좀 하지마... 조작을 어느정도 원해 왔다는 말이랑 똑같잖아
(+ 드디어 조작 밝혀졌네요 이가은 팬으로써 확신하고 있었던 부분이지만 막상 진실이 나오고 착잡한 거 보니 믿고 싶지 않았나 봅니다. 위스플이라 죽어라 악플 달았던 사람들은 스스로 부끄러워하시길 바랍니다)
ㅇㅈ이요 이가은 데뷔시키고 컨셉을 조금이라도 바꾸면 됐자나요
ㅇㅈ
아이즈원에 안어울린다는 말이 이가은 없이 이미 데뷔한 아이즈원의 이미지로 생각하니까 그런거임 애초에 말이 안되는 근거 ㅇㅇㅇ
이가은은 인생을 도둑맞았다는 댓글 보고 진짜 개공감했다
세균덩어리 이거 ㄹㅇㄹㅇㄹㅇ
이가은 볼때마다 불쌍해 미치겟다
인정오
플레디스 최대 피해자 같은..느낌이..
조작 진짜 개같네요
@@보보-c6j 이가은이랑 박시연.. 저는 개인적으로 플레디스에서는 이 두분이 젤 안타까워요
@@breeze-u1s 오메쉣 저 이름 이 박시연인데 저부르는줄
플디 가은이 제대로 활동안시켜줄거면
제발 좀 나줘!볼때마다 불쌍해미치겠다..
가은이 어딜가도 잘할앤데 괜히 플디가서 고생이야
나줘가 아니라 놔줘..
지금은 플레디스나와서 높은엔터테이먼트 들어갔다고 알고있습니다
@@웨주는안멍청해 자기한테 달라는 듯!
@@하하-v9z9o 그러면 나 줘 라고 해야돼는데영
@@웨주는안멍청해 되!
난 운동을 해서 그런가?
뭔가 선수가 돼도 경기를 못 뛰는 기분일 것 같다.
정확한 비유네.
아..슬픔..ㅠㅠ 진짜 비유..ㅠㅠ벤치멤버같아요 ㅠㅠㅠ
정확합니다
나보다 못하는 애가 나대신 경기를 뛰고, 나보다 더 인정받는 그런 느낌?
뾰컬 천재님 비유참 잘하시네요ㅠㅠ
허윤진 여기서 보고도 진짜 매력있다 생각했는데 르세라핌 데뷔햇네...
이가은분 진짜 안타깝다.. 결국 PD조작사건의 희생양만 되어버렸네.. 애초에 말이 안 되었음 1위에도 올라가고 항상 최상위권에 있던 분이 이전 순발식 때마다 10위대 후반에 있던 애들한테서 데뷔자리를 뺏긴게 누가 봐도 너무 이상하지 않음?
인정요
데인 난 2때부터 의심이갔음 솔까 김종현 맨날 1위고 10위정도를 떨어진적이 없었는데 생방에서 갑자기 떨어지고 이가은도 1위 엄청하고 10위도 안떨어지고있었는데 갑자기 이렇게 되잖아 게다가 가은언니는 이걸 마지막으로한거였는데 마지막을 버린거잖아...;;
그리고 가장 황당한게 가장 낮은 순위가 8위었고 순위발표한 회 + 속보 포함하면 평균순위 3.56위임 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그동안 한번도 데뷔권 밖에 안나갔던 애가 마지막에서 14위? 누가봐도 조작이었고, 김종현도 마찬가지 중간에 1위 2번하고 이후에도 계속 데뷔권 유지해왔는데 마지막 순위 14위 ㅋ
지금 아이즈원 멤버들도 그렇고 이가은님도 그렇고.. PD조작으로 다피해보는거보면 안타깝네요..ㅠㅠ
@@adrdgf ㄹㅇㅋㅋ하성운 20위권인애가 갑자기 3위?이거도 이상했음
이가은떨어진게 조작으로밝혀졌네
진짜 실력좋고인성도좋았는데.
플레디스도 이해안가지만 안준영이 더 이해안감;; 이번 계기로 다신 프듀출신 안팔거임
강혜원이 붙고 가은이 떨어졌다?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@asdf3143 ㅇㅈ 나 그때 솔까 개어이없었음 근데 주잘일줄은.ㅋ
@@빔빔-b1t 솔직히 주작으로 올라온 애들 중 대놓고 티나는 애들 몇 있음ㅋㅋ 시즌1은 김소혜 혼자 101명중 분량 50% 씹어먹더니 데뷔하고 지 아빠가 세워준 개인소속사 들어간 금수저 중의 금수저고. 시즌2는 강혜원, 사쿠라 주작데뷔 너무 티나고ㅇㅇ
@@asdf3143 ㅇㅈ솔까 사쿠라는
센터니까 된건 그렇다쳐도 강혜원은..?이해안감
표정연기도 별로고 랩도 로봇이고..
또 이렇게 하면' 강혜원 매력 많거든요??분량 있고 매력있으니까 뽑았겠죠'하고 지랄하는 사람 한명은 있겠지
진짜 허윤진은 재데뷔해서 지금 빛을 보고 있지만 이가은은 어쩔거냐 이때도 5위에 들만큼 인기 많았고 팀 활동 했으면 너무 잘했을텐데 지금 뭐든 하고 있다고 해도 자기 꿈인 아이돌은 포기해야했을텐데.. 조작만 안했으면 아이즈원 후에 뭐라도 할수 있었을거다 진짜 한사람 인생을 망쳐놨다
인기 좋고 실력 좋고 키크고 이쁘고 1위도 계속하고 그런데 갑자기 데뷔발표때 탈락? 주작을해도 심하다
애초에 플레디스가 활동을 시켜줬으면 여기 나올 일도 없었겠죠 조작한 안준영도 짜증나지만 한성수는 한대 날리고싶음...
대신 조작 멤버가 그 인생을 대신 살고 있다는게 참ㅋㅋ😅
김채원 ㅋㅋㅉㅉ
그러고보면 조작멤 김채원 사쿠라랑 같이 데뷔한 허윤진도 좀 웃기네ㅋㅋㅋ
난 솔직히 프듀48시작할때 이가은 데뷔 할줄알았음
그니까 딴 연습생들은 몰라도 이가은은 ㄹㅇ 조작이 아닐수가없다ㅋ
처음에 진짜 순위높앗는데 점점 내려감 ..
ㅇㅈ 계속 쭉 데뷔권이였다가 데뷔평가 무대에서 등수 떨어져서 데뷔못한 케이스임 주작 개오지네 ㅋㅋ
이가은 실력 인성 전부 상위권인데 순위 내려가는건 조작이지 ㄹㅇ
그 직감 틀리지 않으셨네요
조작 때문에 잠시 엇나간것처럼 보일 뿐이었네요
진짜 이 두명은 팀내줘야된다
완전 멋있다
솔직 48에서 이 두명이 제일 인상깊었다
지금같은 느낌으로 대박일듯
결국 르세라핌이 된 허윤진🎉
배우까까은
조작으로 이가은 떨어트린거면 진짜 악마고 사탄이다... 나는 이가은 11픽일따 뽑고 픽수 줄어들면서 안뽑은 사람인데도, 조작기사 나자마자 이가은 생각부터 나더라.
피해자가 있는데 어떻게 조작그룹 활동시키냐... 내본진돌도 프듀출신인데 탈덕했고, 이젠 프듀출신 다신 파지 않을거임
@@아-핫 그럼 조작그룹이아님? 이제 전국민이 조작인거 아는데 덮어놓고 활동하는건 결국엔 멤버들 선택 아닌가? 아무 일 없었다는듯이 모른척 활동하고있는데
@@아-핫 조작그룹 맞지..안준영이 48이랑 X 전 멤버 조작 시인했잖음
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아이즈원, 엑스원도 피해자라고 했고 상위임원들 모여서 회의 결과 엑스원 해체 아이즈원 재개 이렇게 결과 나온거임
@@봄-y7z 피해자인 건 맞지만 수혜자인 것도 맞죠...글고 그렇다고 그게 활동해도 될 이유는 아니죠...
님 논리로 따지면 남의 자리에 앉아 놓고 "나는 몰랐고 엄마가 계속 앉으래~"
하면 안 내려와도 되는거?
@@크아악-p6e 아이즈원이 선택받아서 그런건 맞지만 그렇다고 걔네들이 노력을 안했나요?? 내정되어 있었다고 해서 그 친구들이 간절하지 않았던건 아니에요 자신의 노력으로 당당하게 활동하고 있는 줄 알았는데 그게 아니였던 아이들의 그 허무함은 생각도 안하시나보네요 왜 피해자가 숨어야 하나요?
Kaeun deserved better. Pledis better not ruin the chance to promote her now since she didn't make it to top 12. I am so mad.
Yupp, I got mad too when she didn't deabut
She was part of the line up if the votes weren't rigged.
@@queen_idle_9801 Yeah but it doesn't matter now. Since people seem to have forgotten her, and she has no activities... A pity
@@Luka-iu1jx of course it is, I hope something like that NEVER happens to you. Actually, don't you have any heart nor empathy? They did her dirty. I won't bother if you reply to my comment.
@@someoneelse583 What is wrong with you? I literally said nothing bad. Kaeun was my favorite and I wish her all the best. While you, you are insane it seems.
방송 당시에 진짜 가은이 욕 엄청 먹고 결국 데뷔도 못하고... 가은아 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅜㅜㅜㅜ 아 맘아파 진짜
가은 욕 먹었어요..? 뭐 때문에 욕 먹었어요..?
@다나 그렇게 따지면 아이돌학교로 데뷔한 규리도 욕 먹어야 하는디..
@@신나래-v7u 규리도 나왔을때 욕 오질나게 먹었음
욕먹을거 알면서 나온거임 절실하니까
@@컨츄리꼬꼬-n3s 욕은 조금만 넣어둬 주세요ㅜㅜ
カウンちゃんが泣いたのってここだけな気がする、いっつも笑顔で本当にすき
I'm back here after knowing she was being robbed to be in the debut line
What
@@exomaheen5526 it came out that it was rigged
I am crying so much for her,,, she is truly talented
@@exomaheen5526 she is in 5th place.
As bad as it sounds I was rooting more for the top 13-35 girls rather than the girls that actually made it to the top 12. But looking at it now, all my favs (Gaeun, Miru, Sian, Go Yujin, Sihyun, Yiren, Hayeoon) wouldn't fit the final group concept at all :( the group was never meant to be a girl crush concept so pretty much as much as I'd want one of my favs to make it to the final lineup, they would stand out, but not in a good way.
Her story is so sad, as a similar situation happened with Nu'est. Bad promotions, no promotions, they start off giving them all the attention and focus before letting things run off the tracks. Then, rather than admit their errors as a company, they just throw money into their next project and leave a perfectly good group fighting for the scraps. For the boys, it went from Nu'est over to Seventeen. For the girls, it went from After School to Pledis Girls (now Pristin). The thing that makes all this worse is that all FOUR of those groups are talented and deserving of the full attention of their company, so it's even more frustrating when you try to understand why they would just leave the former groups to slowly fade away. The only reason Nu'est is getting any love from their company now is due to their own efforts after going through the degrading process of them going on Produce 101- I don't mean the show is bad, but we all know how sad it was for them as seasoned veterans to have to do that. Now she's facing the same challenge, so one can only hope she'll have good support from fans behind her, or she'll at least get decent screen time. If not, I think we can safely, and sadly, say that this could be her very last chance.
trogdorthe8th Its only first episode and she’s getting an amount of screentime. Good or bad,its publicity, and the public loves drama. I think she will be one of the toughest here (like jonghyun).
In the first reveal of the Top 12, she's #5 so that's wonderful! To be fair, Pledis isn't the only company known to mismanage at times. Hell, even the Big 3 have been known to screw up with groups here and there, with people who loved them and wanted to see them comeback being forced to wait indefinitely (Fx is a good example of this). However, I think what gets me and probably many other people so frustrated is that the rug was seemingly ripped out from under groups like Nu'est and After School when everything was seemingly going well. So, HOPEFULLY, she'll keep this momentum going and people will continue to support her. Her story may be sad, but the talent, charisma and visuals are CLEARLY there, so she deserves a chance.
trogdorthe8th f(x)😭😭😭😭
Nu'est is having a new album look at their youtube
trogdorthe8th yeah pledis is very bad manage their artist but recently they doing good with seventeen making a profit. Hope they learned their lesson from this.
일부 위즈원들 이가은 아이즈원 이미지랑 안어울린다고 나불대는거 진짜 꼴보기 싫어 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 이가은 들어갔으면 좀 더 성숙하고 세련된 이미지로 자리잡았겠지 ㅋㅋ 그리고 이가은 청순도 잘어울림 ㅠ 가은이 리더롤 올라운던데 시불랄 ㅋ 아빡친다 진짜 가은이 안쓰러워죽겠네
소송걸어서 돈 받으면 된단 말도 봤는데 이가은 한초원이 바란건 돈이 아니라 무대에서 노래하고 춤추는거임. 이런 애들 꿈을 짓밟은거고 ㅠ 진짜 안쓰럽다
그냥 그러려니해요.....이가은 한초원 들어갔으면 다양한 거 시도했을텐데 나오는 컨셉도 한결같고 철저한 매니아층 위주 그룹이잖아요
애초에 그 아이즈원 이미지라는 게 1위 멤버부터 12위 멤버를 합쳐서 만드는 건데 당연히 지금 이미지랑은 안 맞지... 그리고 안 맞는다고 착한 주작이라는 건 진짜 희대의 개소리고
내친구도 위즈원인데 지금 애들도 좋지만 원래붙어야하는 애들이 들어가서 했어도 잘어울렸을거라고 그러던데 특히 은비랑 가은이 붙여두면 잘어울릴거라고...
ㅇㅇㅇㄹㅇ 존나 잘어울릴 것 같은디
ㅇㄱㄹㅇ 진짜 마음 아픔 근데 댓글에다가 지 최애가 들어와서 다행이라는둥 뭐라는 둥 씨불씨불되는거 진짜 개씨불 때리고 싶음
本当に2人とも美貌も実力もどう考えてもデビューレベルの筈なのに、何で。。。2人でデビューしよう……
사람마다 포텐 터지는 시기가 좀 다르다고 생각하고 언젠가 이가은도 제대로 포텐 터지길 바랍니다. 허윤진 월드와이드 핫걸 데뷰 축하
この2人って散々使い潰されて運営に捨てられたって感じよね……
誰か幸せにしてあげてくれ！！
Imagine how Kaeun felt when Kahi was in front of her😭😢
Takada Kihyun could you please tell me who is Kahi and kaeun what their deal is and what does it have to do with the video ? ? Sorry I got into Kpop pretty late and I'm very confused....
IKR if I'm Kaeun i will feel so extremely sad
Mia Harris kaeun is afterschool member and kahi is former afterschool
+Mia Harris Kahi is the lady next to the one (with the brown coat over her shoulders) who leans over to ask her a question regarding her relationship to Kaeun (the one that was interviewed and performed). Kahi is part of the original lineup of the girl KPOP group called After School. Since Kaeun debuted before already (like how Nuest members debuted before) they were wondering what made her come to a survival show like Produce and if there were any thoughts or planned activity for her group. She replied thinking that maybe the group was disbanded if her CEO allowed her to appear on the show (it was worded quite odd but it's along that line of thought for her). Kahi (being a former member of AS) was questioned if she knew her personally but Kahi responded that she didn't know her well since Kaeun joined after she left the group. People are just curious as to what is going on with After School since there was no formal announcement of disbandment.
kaeun joined the group after kahi left so there aren't much strings attached
I think Kahi and Kaeun have a stronger bond then showed. Kahi left After School to pursue her solo career, and helped pick Kaeun as her replacement in After School. And for Kahi to have picked her out, just to see the poor management leading to After School being forgotten... is heart breaking. Imagine how this must feel for Kahi, she joined the company when it was just 3 staff managers, her, Jungah, and Son Dambi. She basically built the company to something great... and this is the thanks she gets. She gets to see the girls she basically helped raise (Nana, Lizzy, E-Young, Bekah, and Kaeun all joined the group when they were around the age of 16 or 17) be lead away from music, and gets to see instead groups like Pristin and Seventeen take the spots of artists that are known to have come from Pledis. And Pledis had the chance to bring After School back, after Nayoung and Kyulkyung debuted in I. O. I, many thought (and some sources said) Pledis may add them, or the other girls to After School. It didn't happen. And what is really funny is that Xiyeon of all people should have gone to After School. She joined the company after After School released "Diva," and was trained by Bekah and Kahi to one day be in After School, she is even featured in the "Bang," music video. Idk I can go on about Pledis but I'm gonna stop.
(DISCLAIMER: I LOVE PRISTIN AND SEVENTEEN... IT JUST URKES ME HOW PLEDIS DID AFTER SCHOOL DIRTY)
Miko's Galaxy ur comment is on point.
But you have to keep in mind that Pledis was in the verge of bankruptcy. Even though they still have a source of income, it was still not enough to give AS another comeback since they're also paying the staffs and now that they have enough money, it would still be hard to give them a comeback knowing that only few people would support AS. I understand you but the Pledis now is different and i wish people would stop complaining about the past. If AS members are really treated badly, they would've left but no they did not instead they renewed their contract. For the meantime let's just wait. Even though we've waited for so long, Pledis just got back to its former glory and I'm pretty sure that AS would get reversal.
Nycrean Actually after After School's last album Pledis got a substantial amount of money. Also in 2013 they signed a joint contract with Yuehua, thus allowing some Pledis actors to work in china. And Pledis had enough money to debut a 13 member boy group, and once said boy group debuted and became popular and earned them money, pledis still didnt do anything with After School... not trying to start anything but...
Miko's Galaxy sorry but..kahi not leaving to pursue career as solo artist..but she's graduating from after school...then she doesn't have any choice..she choose to pursue solo career...
Nycrean Pledis was struggling but not almost went bankrupt. Most agencies have another source of income which is property. They also sold their shares, earned money from Uee and Nana huge CF deals as well so there was no way that would happeb. Only fans and netizens who knows nothing about business made that assumption
솔직히 제일 눈에 밟혔는데 ... 진짜로 갑자기 1위에서 13위ㅋㅋ 말이되냐구.. 저렇게 다 잘하는데.. 꼭 성공하세요ㅠㅠ제발!
YUNJIN DESERVED BETTER
ALSO, KAEUN NOONA FIGHTING
Taylie even doe they gave her C in this evaluation, she'll climb up in B dont worry she's only bound to improve i can see it 😍 many saw her orange shirt (B) in her eye contact fight video
What grade Kaeun got
Elly BK kaeun A
Yoonjin C
Well, i am a playboyz (afterschool fandom) since Afterschool debut, kahi is the 1st generation and kaeun is 5th generation, kahi smiled but she literally crying inside. Even kahi never promote album with kaeun, but ikr she also feel sorry and sad, because it is her own group. As a playboyz, i always waiting afterschool to comeback, year by year past but they didnt comeback, and the member graduated one by one, jungah graduated because of getting married, uee graduated to focus on drama career (fyi, uee is a main role of MANHOLE drama with jaejoong jyj and baro b1a4), jooyeon also graduated then join a new agency, lizzy also graduated (lizzy said, she also waiting for a comeback, but pledis dont have enough money). Now, afterschool members are : Raina ( focus on solo career, her last album with aron nuest ), Nana (also focus on solo career ), Eyoung (doing nothing, she is also underrated just like kaeun, fyi. She is so damn talented, she can sing dance and plays piano,guitar,drum,flute,and so on). And the maknae is kaeun. I hope she can debut again. Actually, when kaeun did an instagram live.. i always asked about when afterschool comeback, and she sad after reading my question. Please help her to achieve her unfulfilled dream. She loves sing on the stage, she is kind (she often like her fans comments and reply it on instagram)
RizYoungmin i'm cryingggg i miss them so muchhhh
E-Young is working on her music academy now
About Kaeun,Pledis added her right before Kahi leaving...and as you can see in AS live videos that Kaeun can carry almost all Kahi's lines and rap,during First Love era her dance also exellent too ... so her talent is no joke 👍👍👍 just feel bad for her that Pledis did nothing to her 😭
Bo Nguyen i know right. I mean she got no job from pledis.
RizYoungmin tho she didnt promoted with kaeun they have a performance together twice.kahi graduate on the day kaeun debut during their japan tour.
탈플레디스했으니이제
잘될일만남았음
헐 플디 탈했어요??!
@프리[자유분들] 넘 잘됬네여ㅜㅠ 제발 좋은곳에서 데뷔했음 좋겠어요
헐... 다행이네요ㅜㅠㅜ
진짜볼때마다 불쌍해미치겠어요ㅠㅠㅠ제발 잘되서 다시만나길..!
@@lllillhh 됐
허윤진도 진짜 예쁘고 잘한다...허윤진 진짜 배우상...
カウンっていっぱい努力してデビューできたいのに上手くいかなくて、プデュも落ちちゃって…。しかも親が片方しかいないって…。ほんとにカウンの努力が報われてほしい。
따지면 다른 학생 부정입학 때문에 내가 원래 들어가야 했던 입학 자리를 뺏긴거임 내가 생각해도 너무 답답하고 안타까운데 본인 심경은 어떨까 조작만 없었으면 조작피해자 이가은이 아니라 아이즈원 이가은이라고 불렸을텐데...
예비1번으로 끝났는데 합격자중에 결격사유 있는사람 있는데 수시이후 밝혀진거라 불합격처리하고 남은 한저리 수시예비1번에게 합격증 주는게 아니라 정시이월되는 꼴ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
와 좆같다
부정입학이랑 비유하시면 안되는게 부정입학은 감을이 아니라 방관죄가 성립되고 이건 갑을이고 멤버들도 몰랐어서 방관죄 성립이 안된답니다
It still hurts when kaeun said she was waiting for comeback and it never happened...
Still the same when a year ago I watched this 😭😭😭
I know we shouldn't complain about the final line-up because IZ*ONE already disbanded, but Kaeun had some skills that former IZ*ONE members didn't have. And same goes with Chowon.
이가은님 정말 미압니다...그때 제대로 지켜봐주지 못해서리...지금이라도 이렇게 진상이 밝혀져서 다행이라 생각도 들지만
그동안 정말 힘들었을..마음아팠을...이가은님에 비할까요...
앞으로 하시는 배우일이든..아니면 다시 원래길은 가시든 응원하겠습니다...
전 이가은 웃으실때 너무 선한 미소가 잘 어울려서 너무 좋았어요....
우리 선한 미소천사 이가은 화이팅...~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Pledis has many beautiful talented girls yet most of them very under rated. *still waiting After school to come back*
Divo Galindra yes, they only good at picking trainees but really bad when managing their group.
Would u love me?
Divo Galindra ii
Divo Galindra .
Divo Galindra i love u
Kaeun said "i watched PD101 s1, my friends who trained with me (nayoung ect). And i was thinking if i didnt debut , that could have been me". OMG PLZ VOTE HER
i was shooked that she's from after school, i didnt recognize her since its been so long since ive watched after school i felt bad coz she been waiting to sing and dance again
Wt is the meaning of "this"?
WH fmd this = situation when kaeun didnt have a comeback with afterschool.
Soshi Sone no she didnt join pd101
Soshi Sone kaeun is black hair, and they dont have enough money to comeback
이가은이 아이즈원에 안어울린다 라고 말하는사람들 생각좀 하고 말하세요 지금 데뷔한 아이즈원 기준이 아니라 이가은이 아이즈원에 들어갔다면 컨셉이 좀 바꼈을수도 있지 지금 아이즈원에 이가은을 끼워 맞추는건 대체 어떤생각이신지
그래도 나코 히토미 가은은 좀..
@@Jikjik22 그니깐 그시람들이 조작 됬을수도 있잖아요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 이가은이 안들어간게 말이 안되고 이가은 들어갔으면 컨셉 바꼈을수도 있지 지금 그쪽이 하신행동이 지금 아이즈원에 이가은 때려맟추는거에요^^
@@미야야야양 먼 개솔 ㅋㅋ 나코 히토미는 누가봐도 데뷔 확정이였는데 ㅋㅋ
@@미야야야양 그리고 새로운 컨셉을 맞췄겠지만 나코 히토미 등등 큐티쪽 멤들 껴있고 가은 은비같은 섹시쪽 멤 껴있으니까 애매 했겠죠..^^ 제 투픽 참고로 이가은 이였구요~ 저도 데뷔하길 원했지만 이렇게 데뷔를 하고 어느정도 눈치로 주작없이 아이즈원으로 뽑혔을 멤들을 보니 차라리 솔로 활동을 하는게 더 잘될것 같다 느끼네요^^
@@Jikjik22 뭐야..? 니가 하고싶은 말이 뭔데 갑자기 기어들아와서 꼽주는 언니야 놀이를 하고있냐?
I’m so happy that Yunjin debuted with Lesserafim. I’m still upset that Kaeun was rigged out but I’m glad she’s doing acting and fulfilling her dreams.
Gaeun made it to final top12, and Mnet has stolen her dream. It’s not as Chowon case, who was 16 when the scandal was revealed. It was her last chance of being an idol and I think she felt worst when her rank was revealed…I’m glad someone like me is still mad. Yeah, it’s been 4 years and IZ*ONE has disbanded but it was unfair to let the group promote until the end when X1 disbanded juste because the group was successful…Nevertheless, Produce series are still very popular so I just hope the next ones won’t be rigged :(
such a shame that Mnet did her dirty. Although I like I*zone, but I still can't forget the pain that Kaeun must have felt when she dropped lower in the ranks and was eliminated.
I know mnet fxk
She could have had her second chance like eunbi 😭
she's supposed to actually debut with them. Someone just blow out what really happened
カウンがプレディスじゃなかったら今頃活躍してるだろーな
プレディスは、ひとづかい？が荒い気がする。
가은이 힘내자. 실력도 인성도 훌륭하다. 외모도 좋고 . 이가은 무조건 데뷰다 ! 데자뷔 데뷰 ~
Kaeun was actually the 5th in the final ranking. Are you fking serious Mnet? They just robbed her the future she deserved
kahi be like: *oh pledis, i've been knew it will be like this*
I wonder if she regrets being part of the founding of the company sometimes.
She must be sad to see her former members been treat like that...even kaeun not her batch...but...she will feel it... she's leader also..😥😥😥
Assyami Arin I also think that she told Pledis not to do the graduation system along with continuously adding more members, but they didn’t listen. Pledis has been getting better at management in the past 2-3 years, hopefully the reboot AS like they did with Nu’est but ditch the concept of graduation and addition
So kahi will be judges for this season ?
are you watching this after kaeun not debuting???
@@ksector7902 i hope too😭😭
@Dean Kim she deserves more
Its really hurt me
Yes :( i don't hate i*zone, but i don't love the line Up I need more kaeun :(
@@nathalymendez6920 let's hope the best for gaeunn😭
カウンちゃんデビュー出来なてないことが不思議。
てか、もういいじゃん全員でデビューしてほしいわ
개인적으로 허윤진은 이때가 가장 예뻣다고 생각합니다 보자마자 어떻게 저렇게 예쁜 사람이 있지? 싶었음
고급스럽게 예쁘심
この2人は実力も可愛さも完璧なのに、、
いつかこの2人の努力が報われて欲しい😭😭
歯がでかい矢吹なこの代わりに加入してほしかった
こっちの方が実力あるのに
顔と体が小さいんだよ☺️
Heo Yoonjin deserved a better grade
Kaeun and AS deserved a comeback
배우로 전향한 모습보고 감탄했어요.
아이돌 상이라고 생각했는데 배우 상이었나봐요. 학교 선생님 역보고 너무 우아하고 예뻐서 몇번을 돌려봤어요
가은이 결국 플디 나와서 앨범냈죠... 음색 예뻐서 첫사랑 노래때 진짜 좋아했는데ㅜㅜ
こんなに苦労してきた人が操作されるってつらい
カウンちゃんには幸せになってほしい
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I came here after knowing that Gaeun orginally placed 5th in the final line up of Iz*one.
Glad that Produce will likely to never happen again. They just use trainees for their personal interest and gain money.
What is the real final line up ranking?? Where can I know?
@Farah Syahidaaa the real final ranking was not released but all i know is that gaeun was actually fifth place (and chowon was sixth as well).
@@syadcanfly There was no final ranking revealed. The only released to the public is the name of the trainees that whose vote is manipulated and those who supposed to be in the final ranking.
Gaeun and Chowon was supposed to be placed 5th and 6th respectively. Imagine how they felt being cheated due to mnet being snakes.
@@masakazuhiruko550 that is why i never support izone as a permanent group it will hurt these two girls so much😭
마음 아파 최종5위였는데 본인 자리 뺏기고 활동 못하고 ㅜㅜ
KAEUN AND AFTER SCHOOL DESERVE A COMEBACK AFTER SO SONG :(😭
저렇게 춤추면서 노래 하는게 너무 신기!!!목소리도 넘 매력적
Wow, it's my first time hearing Kaeun's voice this clearly, she was very maknae in AS but now she is able to shine and you can't deny she has that AfterSchool aura and moves and a classic Pledis girl trainee/idol body.
아니 얘들아..이거하고 무대트라우마 생겼대잖아.이제 가수의 삶을 보여주지 못하고 배우자로 전향하겠대 준영아 니가 이렇게 1사람의 삶을 바꿔논거야.진짜 천벌받아라
아오.. 힘든 사람 희망고문하고 이게 뭐냐 진짜 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 쓰레기새끼들
배우자..? 배우요?
I know Kaeun truly deserves her spot. But how can they just shine the light on her while ignoring Yunjin. Yunjin didn't get any solo screentime and she deserved a better ranking! Both of them slayed though🔥 #TeamPledis fighting 💪❤
Amelia Bukhory YunJin had 2:42
That's only one second, but it is
this is just the first ep?
Firstly, no, Yunjin is not a replacement for Kyla. Kyla still has a contract and her sister already said she'll go back to Korea to rejoin Pristin eventually. Secondly, Pledis has opened worldwide audition for more than a year now, and Yunjin was picked from it, since she has like 4-6 months of training. Thirdly, Kaeun is with AS and AS is dead for who knows how long, yet she's here. They wouldn't bring her back without a purpose. Imo, they're gonna revamp After School, adding new members and ending this god forsaken idea of graduation system.
But my guess is that they don't have plans for it so soon, as the final group of P48 will promote for more than two years. Kaeun is more known than Yunjin and will obv get the sad situation+KR center boost, so I think she may end up debuting alone. If this happens, Yunjin can come back to training and by the time Kaeun comes back, she'll have 2+ years of training and the distance between Pristin's debut and this AS revamp will be bigger. That seems more reasonable to me.
heyitsmira yes it make sense tbh especially pledis learnt this is how they can help it idols to be fame again. btw pledis has a lot of talents, yujin definitely will be in af.
what did yunjin get?? she’s well good at singing i’m rooting for her
6yrs 6month. Kaeun's gaze and body gestures tells her long training time is didn't lie. I think she will be in the final line up.
Sad but no :( i cried when she didn't get in
no she's not:(
Me too i was so disappointed she didnt make it..she really deserve to debut again..
i cry for kaeun didnt make it :( i cry like this too for jr and samuel at pd101 s2 :(
Seeing Kaeun and Kahi in this situation makes me feel sad....Let's support Kaeun guys💓
Phạm Ngọc Anh it's like the whole nuest and kahi during season 2 again
and i hope she's gonna succeed too 💛
I think it is even more heartbreaking since Kaeun joined After School which Kahi used to be the leader of
Her skill is no joke since she gets A and i believe she will shine even more in the future ❤
I think that she will make it, and would be a great leader bc she knows Japanese too and have more years of training
jiggukme yep she has everything to be a good leader but i hope MNET won't do st bad like evil edit to her...
가은아 너가 노력한만큼 빛을 바라는 날이
올거야…지금도 여러 작품을 통해 팬들 앞에 보이려는 모습이 너무 감사해🥰
ㅠㅠㅠ 가은이...
가은이 잘되라고 투표도 막 하고 그랬었는데....ㅠㅠㅠ...
진짜 천벌받아라 이것들아 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
가은이 실력도 좋고 핵존예였는데 저런 결과나오고 아직도 빛을 못보고 있는게 천불난다.
이가은 떨어졌을 때 악개들 하던 말
"만인의 차애픽이라 1픽싸움에선 밀릴 거 예상됐다"
5위인데 조작으로 떨어진게 ;;;;;말도안돼
Pledis is only good at casting. That's it.
Agree.
Pledis is good at recruiting trainees, but Pledis sucks at promoting their groups.
Totally!
tonettaayy _ you have to wait first..
Pledis manage to find amazing trainees it woaahs me and my friends always complimented them on that but their treatment was terrible and so we would get mad
Rank:
Kaeun:5th
YoonJin: 19th
idk them (sorry) who is who?
Thùy Linh Đỗ how do you know
Matty Kaeun is the short haired girl, Yoojin is the one with a pony tail.
Matty short hair is kaeun, long hair is yoonjin
jessica jessie twitter
두분의 노력과 실력이 어떤 모양으로든 보상 받는 날이 꼭 오길..
일단 허윤진은 르세라핌으로 승천했고...
이가은만 뜨면 된다ㅠㅠ
비율 모임......진짜 둘이 데뷔하면 좋았을듯...
I swear to God, MNet must have decided to add Kahi at the very last moment just for the sake of this drama.
Well more drama, more rating
모니카대위 op said kahi not kaeun lol
She's a good mentor. I think she wast not added jus for this. Lol. She's one of the biggest reason why Afterschool exists.
Jinwoon Jeong she was literally added just for this episode though 'one day special trainer'
Taylie I was hoping she’d just be a regular part of the show. She was great in the other two seasons too
가희 진짜 심란하고 슬펐겠다. 자기 졸업하고 들어온 후배가 수년을 컴백만 기다리면서 있다가 스승과 제자로 만났으니...
I don't know.. But poor Kaeun.. But more pitiful when KAHI the first generation After School look at youngest After School Now 🤧🤧🤧🤧 need to join this show
Seventeen Xoxo the look she gave was like "I'm surprised" but maybe it was just me
It’s sad that she was in the finals lineup but got eliminated by chart manipulation but MNET.
Yes and also MIRU.
가은이 이런 ㅜ실력인데 ㅡ5년을 방치 햇다니,,,화 난다
애초에 개어이없는게 아이즈원에 안어울린데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 니네가 생각하는 아이즈원 이미지가 대체 뭔데? 제작진 입맛에 맞게 골라논 애들이 아이즈원인데 걔네들이랑 안맞는다고 뭐라하는게 ㄹㅇ 웃기다.. 찐순위 애들로 데뷔했으면 아이즈원 이미지가 아예 달라졌을 수도 있는데 지금 아이즈원 이미지랑 안맞아 ㅇㅈㄹ ㅋㅋㅋ 그럼 뭐해... 그게 다 주작으로 이루어진 이미지 인데..
조작 말 나올 때마다 '이가은은 아이즈원 이미지에 안어울려서 떨어졌다' 이 말 꼭 나옴;; 그거에 또 공감을 하는 애들은 지금 아이즈원 팬들.. 참 착잡하네요
이가은 한초원 미루 들어가고 민주 혜원 채원 빠지면 이미지는 얼추 맞아지는데... 아쉬워요
불쌍해
@@Ahoony1223 근데 그렇다고 말로라도 빠지면이라고 말하시면 안돼죠
Ahoony _ 타팬인데도 민주 채원은 섹시 존나 어울림 고급진 섹시? 오히려 장원영 히토미 나코 혜원이 겉도는 느낌임
放送見れなかった人のために書くけど、イガウンがAでホユンジンがC評価でした
s s そうだったんだ。ありがとう
허윤진 데뷔하고 싶어서 어떻게 참았냐?
When I watch the PR video of Yunjin, I think she has the great potential: visual, english, vocal, dance ( i havent watched her dance but she comes from Pledis so she must be good at dance).
But this cut video makes me so mad because Mnet barely pays attention to her and gives her not much time on the screen.
However, this performance is perfect. Their vocals are so stable, their dance is good and they didnt make any false.
#HEOYUNJIN_FIGHTING
Yunjin deserves at least B class
Ý Nhi what the tittle of Yujin PR???
Ms. Dodo Chae you can search "Heo Yoonjin" on youtube. She's the one with short hair and plays ukulele
Ý Nhi AND SHE GOT FREAKING C! HOW FILTHY!
Ý Nhi sameeee. I'm so piss off that Mnet didn't even care to let her shine her talent. I've waited for years to see yunjin in this round.
가은아 꽃길만 걷자 ㅜㅡㅜ
LEE KAEUN FIGHTING♥♥
Kim Taetae lu ko di mana mana ada si njer
Sony Kris dunia emng sempit:v
Weh
BLINK FOR LIFE ehh lu lagi:v
Kim Taetae iya donk soalnya gw suka nonton sambil baca komen :v ehh ketemu elu:v
가장큰 피해자 이가은 지금 완전 떳어야하는데 안타깝다
久しぶりに全部見返してる人👍
I worry about Yunjin if Mnet do this to her, I mean she deserve solo screentime
Chanyeol's Fairy agree
her last promotion was in 2013 she was also after school's newest member. when she was asked what she was doing the whole time she said "i was waiting for the comeback patientlt but it didnt come." (PLEDIS I HATE U) and when she was asked if AS disbanded, "no but seeing as they allowed me to come here makes me think so."
after school deserves better. i still cant believe first love flopped just because it was a sexy concept?? they trained so hard on the pole dancing and all they got was nothing. please support kaeun in this show, its what she deserves after everything.
so saaaaaad i cant😭😭😭
sad
Jinri, Her last promotion with AS was in 2015, czcams.com/video/QWScSWtG6IU/video.html , it always amazes me when people complain about Pledis not supporting their artists when the reality is its the fans not supporting them which killed those groups and posts like these show how poorly AS was supported by their so called "fans" (I HATE YOU DISINGENUOUS FANS!)
All I ever seem to read is how "badly" Pledis is at supporting their groups but when I ask "did you buy their last album?" the most common answer I get is "Well I would have if I had the money..." Yeah, because comebacks are funded by unicorns and rainbows, you don't support your group they don't come back it isn't rocket science!
Jinri No. FIRST LOVE WASN'T A FLOP BECAUSE IT WAS A SEXY CONCEPT. IT WAS A FLOP BECAUSE PLEDIS DECIDE TO HAVE THERE COMEBACK AS THE BIG 3 ARTIST HAVE A COMEBACK TOO. SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT? Big 3 Artist have more recognition that A.S Comeback.
이가은 팬들은 진짜 아이즈원 싫을 수밖에 없겠다 조작 판정 나고 이가은이 제일 가능성이 있었으니 저 자리는 내 가수 자리인데 하면서 이 갈 듯
이가은 한초원 이채연 갠팬입니다
(과거 쌈무 팬)
내가 댓글 단 줄 알았네
ㄹㅇ 이가은 찐팬이었습니다
데뷔 못한걸 알았을때 바로 주작이라고 눈치깠구요
Pledis always has 2 canditates who a gergous visual and a good leader tho
Season 1 :
Nayoung (leader)💞
Kyulkyung (visual)💞
Season 2 :
Jr (leader)💞
Ren (visual)💞
Season 3 :
Kaeun (leader)💞
Yunjin (visual)💞
But of course all of them such a bunch of talent
I love Ren, but he's not a visual lmao. He's pretty, but Minhyun is the actual visual :)
Nuest are all visual i have to say😂look at the latest MV Dejavu
Minhyun is Visual and the fce is JR.
*face
PLEASE PLEDIS DON'T YOU FUCKING SEND SEUNGCHEOL AND WONWOO HERE. OR ELSE I'LL BURN DOWN MNET.
my baby kaeun and yunjin was so supportive of her even after they received their rankings she was like "u deserved an A u did so well" and continued to compliment her she was so nice and didn't look nervous at all im surprised w her techniques only being a 6 month trainee and being from america she's doing really well i hope everything goes well for both of them
miss chuu lover what nationality is she? what grade did she get
what rank is she in?
miss chuu lover i hope Yunjin debuts. She's got that distinct personality to her 🤗
seventeen's jooheon I know, like only one judge said she did good and it was BYJ. Smh.
seventeen's jooheon No I believe she went to B. Where did it say F?
LEE KAEUN FIGHTING 💕
LEE KAEUN FIGHTING 💕
LEE KAEUN FIGHTING 💕
LEE KAEUN FIGHTING 💕
The fact that mnet crushed her hope I'll never forgive them for this
congrats Kaeun for getting A, but heo yoonjin deserves at least a B, she's so stable and dances perfectly, for a 7 month trainee she's good.
micha cabral what class she got?
micha cabral yunjin is C. right?
pickle noona she got C..
Ikr!! Yoonjin did just as well as Kaeun (if not better). Kaeun got A bcs she's from AS?
Dont worry, there will be a retest after the shows song i think..?
of course Kaeun would get A. i’m so sad and angry. she’s waiting for a comeback still. PLEDIS do something.
Kahi is good mentor and bsj.. Look IOI they are all successful..
carat soup The highest in the program is not A but S....from what i heard. Idk though
Shadow Wolf A-F only
@Shadow Wolf No, the grading is from A to F with the missing E. It was introduced like that in the first episode yesterday.
Shadow Wolf it's the unit.... S and 6-1 Pick level and Chance given level
This is so sad omg
근데 아이즈원 이미지랑 안맞는게아니라 지금 만들어진 이미지랑 안맞는거지 이아이즈원이 아니라 공정하게 만들어진 아이즈원이라면 모든 카테고리가 조화롭게 만들어졌지않아쓸까
I have a feeling that Gaeun would make it into the final line up . Ah pledis should end up their dramas and treart After School better. I hate the fact that after Nuest who cried a lot when they came to PD101S2, then we got Kaeun to did the same thing. If only they pay attention to them more, these babies wouldn't need to sheds their sad tears. FIGHTING GAEUN AND YUNJIN. YOU TWO CAN DO IT.
Sorry for my bad english.
ᄎ ᄎ which group is she from?😢
Noura afterschool
do not be too sure, because you know? this is mnet. I also think like that for jonghyun and samuel first. but see the results?
mnet is snakeu sweetie:( i hate snakeu
but lets hope the best for the girls, tbh i watch this pd48 bcuz of them tho xd
oppa's armpit Yeahhh That's what i Think 😭😭😭😭
She will make it, pledis is now with cj ent (mnet and etc)
kaeun was trying so hard not to cry. i think she really really didn't want people to pity her, she sees this as a opportunity to show her talents, prove herself and i'm sure she will. she was my 2nd bias in after school and it's so obvious she has a lot to show i hope mnet shows that and don't just portray her as the "failed idol" because there is more about kaeun the world needs to see.
now about yunjin; did you all hear that vocals? that voice control? and see that pretty face? the proportions? her dancing? she has everything to get to the a team. mnet clearly wanted to show kaeun's harships but i think that won't stop yunjin of showing her own charms. i'll be supporting both of them and just see what happens
both of them are so talented and deserve to be in final line
本当は受かってたのに可愛そう