I have an all red Stelvio with red seats and breaks, it’s definitely a head turner. They’re extremely reliable. I put 40,000+ miles and no issues except the battery. Bought a new battery and I haven’t had any problems with mine. I’ve drove from St.Louis to Chicago, Saint Louis to Oklahoma City and Saint Louis to Houston with 0 problems. I used to drive BMW’s but ran into wayyy to many problems with them. I wanted something everybody doesn’t have so Mercedes was out the window. Went to Alfa Romeo and I’m happy with my choice. When people say they’re unreliable, I say they’ve never owned one.
The poor reliability with Alfa Romeo cars, is a historical thing. This Italian manufacturer is not known for building reliable cars, and that is a fact. They may have improved with the new models, however, with most cars, a lot of issues do start showing right at the end of the warranty. If you have reached 60,000 miles and not having any major mechanical issues, then you have bought yourself a winner.
I bought an Alfa Romeo Tonale Sprint model PHEV ( the base model, not the dolled up, expensive Veloce model ) almost a year ago. I was the first to buy one in Canada, and basically bought it off the truck. I paid less then MSRP, and got it less then what a Ford Escape PHEV ( which at the time had a dealer mark up of $3,500 ) was going for, and where a RAV4 Prime ( basically the same price ) was ( and still is ) unavailable, and a 2 year old used Prime was selling for $15,000 more then my out the door price. Other then 9 recalls ( 2 for decals that did not have metric or French on them, that I did myself, 3 for checking high voltage connections were tight, no parts needed, 1 to replace a switch, and 3 for software updates, because where I live the vehicle would not update itself ) I have had zero problems with it, everything is operating above my expectations, and I am getting better electrical range and gas mileage then stated on the Vehicle price sheet. It handles great, looks much nicer then its competition ( I compared the Sprint model against the Escape and Prime, where most reviewers, etc., compare the Veloce model that they are given by the dealers against the BMW X1 or Mercedes GLA, etc. which to me is not a fair comparison ). It is not perfect, just like every vehicle in certain aspects, but I love it, love driving it, glad I bought it rather then any of the half dozen or so other PHEVS I test drove, and I would buy it again. And, it fits nicely in my garage. All new vehicles have there problems, and mine did too, but the dealership I bought mine from, bent over backwards to accommodate me with the recalls, offered me a loaner while my vehicle was being serviced, and Alfa has resolved every issue with my vehicle, some well documented. I cannot say I would have gotten the same treatment from any other manufacturer. Maybe I am lucky with my vehicle, but my whole experience, from buying it through to service, driving, etc., could not have been simpler, easier, stress free, and satisfying.
I thought you were joking when you said "other than 9 recalls... I've had zero problems with it". I'm glad you like the vehicle and that you consider yourself lucky - but I guess if it were me I'd be less than trilled about NINE recalls in a year.
People bitching about affiliation with Dodge need to get over it. There are tons of alliances in the car industry: GM/Honda and Toyota/Subaru on electrics for example and that’s between companies. Within parent companies there are VWs and Audis, Toyotas and Lexus and so many more…and these are both owned by Stellantis. Taking advantage of underpopulated Dodge dealers to distribute an Alfa makes sense to me. If you find a better price/engine/design combo with the Tonale vs Hornet buy what you like and be happy for the options. Otherwise buy something else and be happy without bitching online.
That's the big mistake FCA Stellantis made with this vehicle. It degrades the Alfa Romeo to have a cheaper version called a Dodge. Terrible marketing from the idiots at FCA!
Wooden spoon? My buddy is Italian and he swore at his mom once, only once that I remember, because next thing I knew he had a fork sticking out of his bicep. His father was a hockey player. Nice couple.
@@UnionPacific1997 green , blue or the grey would be my choices. I am torn between the Tonale and the Model Y. No charm or class with model Y and so many on the road
@@rehabmax there's no resale in these so just get one in a configuration you enjoy. The reason car colors suck and are boring Is cause everyone drives them. STOP. Enjoy the vehicle and get a color with some life in it.
Just giving a different perspective regarding the rear wipers that you guys always zonked 😆 My family owned a wagon before having those top mounted wipers, problem was: you'll never had a clean wipe! Because the water&snow you scooped up, it still always leak back down making the rear windshield unclean. U see what i mean? 😑
I ordered a Hornet R/T, it arrived at the dealership with so many software issues and no timeline to correct, I did not take delivery. Subsequently purchased a Tonale Ti. Zero issues and certified technicians at the local Alfa dealership when needed. On pricing, I leased the Tonale and got the $7,500 tax credit. Regarding power, the Tonale has the same horsepower as the hornet ( 285 vs. 288). The hornet 288 includes the powershot feature. Why the torque differences ?? Lastly, all your review are outstanding!
Joe, the new Tonale is a great looking SUV. That being said....FCA should have never made this into the Dodge Hornet which is identical to this for thousands less! This vehicle should cost no more than $2-3k grand more than the Dodge. Its the same car! As for is this better than the Mercedes GLA? Yes. Alfa has great Italian style and decent reliability. I own the Stelvio and I would not trade my Stelvio for this smaller model that costs way more. Its not worth the money.
Congrats on the title Steven! Now was that spaghetti just by itself or was it mixed with red or what sauce? Another fun video. I LOVE the wheels on this thing. They stand out across the competition and always catches my eye when I see one in public. Good job outta you Joe.
Great review sir as always and agree with all your issues. I definitely give the price a Zonk. When you can typically get a Stelvio Veloce for the same price (with discounts that are usually on them) I think that is the better choice unless you just have to have the plug in hybrid. I'd say the Veloce should be $45k or so and it would be an excellent choice in my opinion.
Joe: With all the 'on throttle' you did in this video, you didn't touch the D-N-A adjustments...where things can go Dynamic - Natural - Advanced {Efficiency} ... Is there any other Tonale video you'll be doing? Any idea when to expect a '25 of these? Mr. Cameraman: Congratulations on the pasta eating contest!
12:15 Alfa Romeo does have metal rest for the left foot on the Stelvio (at least on some trims). They took some clues from the Stelvio for the Tonale, I don't know why they decided to leave that one out.
Their models have been very reliable for more than 20 years. But when you ask anyone, it it's Italian, they have reliability concerns. ...those concerns are exclusive for those who actually don't have and never had one, which are the vast majority of course. Those who have or had one don't share the same opinion.
Paddle shifters are a must for me (on ICE vehicles). I had both fixed on the steering wheel or on the center console and I like both set ups. But I have to say that fixed on the center console are better for casual driving in manual mode on tight curves and roundabouts where we usually lift one hand of the wheel. ...as well as on more aggressive driving with some power slides (that I believe the electronic will not allow us on this car). 😊
Nice car but top trim needs to cap out at 45-50k. So many other options at that price point that are better and have a better track record of long term reliability
Every other brand has better reliability ...everybody knows that. Everybody of course, that never actually have or had one. It's time people stop this nonsense, it's killing the Italian auto industry.
The Dodge hornet feels way different from the tonale...interior and even exterior. the Alfa feels sharper, a bit more responsive and more refined it feels more premium.
This Compared with : - BMW X1 - Audi Q3 - Mercedes GLA - Dodge Hornet - Ford Puma - Chevrolet Trax - Toyota CHR - Nissan Kicks - Honda HRV - Kia Seltos - Hyundai Kona - Mazda CX 30 - And More
...can't you choose another display configuration to avoid the backward move styling on the dashboard? Digital displays usualy have more than one setup to choose from.
Is the Alfa Tonale the luxury variant of the Dodge Hornet? Like how the Lexus UX is to the Toyota CH-R, or the Lincoln Corsair is to the Ford Escape? Or is the Tonale just a rebadged Hornet?
You got to give it to the Italians they really know how to do style. Its beautiful . What is a concern is going to be the reliability, they have not been able to prove that they can build a vehicle that are reliable and dependable. After all this is what's left over from Fiat
I like the white roof. Don't care for the blacked out roofs generally. Agree plug in hybrid best choice for most people. Looks good but some misses. By the way Joe 6ft isn't really that tall.
Only about 15% of American men are 6’ tall or greater. So, for 85% of guys it’s something I bet they’d be happy with. I’m 6’-2”, and because I’m used to it I don’t really think I’m that tall but as it turns out less than 4% of American men are that tall or greater. It’s a real thing.
A very nice vehicle. Extremely clever inside; very high tech. Stellantis clearly has capacity limits because the pricing on this car is way too high, so they must not care about volume. Probably don't have the factory capacity to push a lot of units to the USA. It is a bit too small for American tastes. In europe this is as big as you want because of their cramped cities. But here in the USA, why constrain yourself to a small car? A car that would be way more desirable in Europe or Asia.
Uconnect systems have the worst camera resolution. Our 2023 durango patrol vehicles are awful. Also it looks to much like the Hornet with Alfa Romeo slapped on it.
An Alfa is never better at luxury than Mercedes. It's going to compete with Audi and BMW at handling, however. They used to have character. One based on a Stellantis chassis, well, Alfa would have to put in the work to make it feel like an Alfa.
I have an all red Stelvio with red seats and breaks, it’s definitely a head turner. They’re extremely reliable. I put 40,000+ miles and no issues except the battery. Bought a new battery and I haven’t had any problems with mine. I’ve drove from St.Louis to Chicago, Saint Louis to Oklahoma City and Saint Louis to Houston with 0 problems. I used to drive BMW’s but ran into wayyy to many problems with them. I wanted something everybody doesn’t have so Mercedes was out the window. Went to Alfa Romeo and I’m happy with my choice. When people say they’re unreliable, I say they’ve never owned one.
The Italian cars are only badmouthed pure jealousy because the Italian cars have always been more reliable than the German Nazi garbage.
Ah yes, everyone drives a Mercedes. 😂 I kid. Sounds like you enjoy the Alfa; that's great.
How much is an oil change?
The poor reliability with Alfa Romeo cars, is a historical thing. This Italian manufacturer is not known for building reliable cars, and that is a fact. They may have improved with the new models, however, with most cars, a lot of issues do start showing right at the end of the warranty. If you have reached 60,000 miles and not having any major mechanical issues, then you have bought yourself a winner.
@@AshleyJohnson-sh1kr $200 at the dealer, $30 at jiffy lube/mom & pop joint and free if you do it yourself. The choice is yours
I bought an Alfa Romeo Tonale Sprint model PHEV ( the base model, not the dolled up, expensive Veloce model ) almost a year ago. I was the first to buy one in Canada, and basically bought it off the truck. I paid less then MSRP, and got it less then what a Ford Escape PHEV ( which at the time had a dealer mark up of $3,500 ) was going for, and where a RAV4 Prime ( basically the same price ) was ( and still is ) unavailable, and a 2 year old used Prime was selling for $15,000 more then my out the door price. Other then 9 recalls ( 2 for decals that did not have metric or French on them, that I did myself, 3 for checking high voltage connections were tight, no parts needed, 1 to replace a switch, and 3 for software updates, because where I live the vehicle would not update itself ) I have had zero problems with it, everything is operating above my expectations, and I am getting better electrical range and gas mileage then stated on the Vehicle price sheet. It handles great, looks much nicer then its competition ( I compared the Sprint model against the Escape and Prime, where most reviewers, etc., compare the Veloce model that they are given by the dealers against the BMW X1 or Mercedes GLA, etc. which to me is not a fair comparison ). It is not perfect, just like every vehicle in certain aspects, but I love it, love driving it, glad I bought it rather then any of the half dozen or so other PHEVS I test drove, and I would buy it again. And, it fits nicely in my garage.
All new vehicles have there problems, and mine did too, but the dealership I bought mine from, bent over backwards to accommodate me with the recalls, offered me a loaner while my vehicle was being serviced, and Alfa has resolved every issue with my vehicle, some well documented. I cannot say I would have gotten the same treatment from any other manufacturer.
Maybe I am lucky with my vehicle, but my whole experience, from buying it through to service, driving, etc., could not have been simpler, easier, stress free, and satisfying.
I thought you were joking when you said "other than 9 recalls... I've had zero problems with it". I'm glad you like the vehicle and that you consider yourself lucky - but I guess if it were me I'd be less than trilled about NINE recalls in a year.
People bitching about affiliation with Dodge need to get over it. There are tons of alliances in the car industry: GM/Honda and Toyota/Subaru on electrics for example and that’s between companies. Within parent companies there are VWs and Audis, Toyotas and Lexus and so many more…and these are both owned by Stellantis. Taking advantage of underpopulated Dodge dealers to distribute an Alfa makes sense to me. If you find a better price/engine/design combo with the Tonale vs Hornet buy what you like and be happy for the options. Otherwise buy something else and be happy without bitching online.
Lol people gonna compare this car to the dodge hornet for a long time
because thats what it is
That's the big mistake FCA Stellantis made with this vehicle. It degrades the Alfa Romeo to have a cheaper version called a Dodge. Terrible marketing from the idiots at FCA!
How the hell is this more expensive than the Mazda CX-90 PHEV Premium we just leased? This needed to be $45K loaded to sell.
comparing mazda to ITALIAN ALFA? cmon man )))
Now my dream SUV!
yikes
😂
Nice looking lil vehicle
Wooden spoon? My buddy is Italian and he swore at his mom once, only once that I remember, because next thing I knew he had a fork sticking out of his bicep.
His father was a hockey player. Nice couple.
That color is off da chain
I laughed a few times watching this, the rearview wiper ,under the hood, the non-panoramic sunroof😂😂😂😂😂
I really do like the Tonale. I wonder how the resale value will hold up, or will it drop $20,000 in 2 years.
It will so get one in a bold color like the dark green one. Your not buying an Alfa Romeo for resale value in mind
@@UnionPacific1997 green , blue or the grey would be my choices. I am torn between the Tonale and the Model Y. No charm or class with model Y and so many on the road
@@rehabmax there's no resale in these so just get one in a configuration you enjoy. The reason car colors suck and are boring Is cause everyone drives them. STOP. Enjoy the vehicle and get a color with some life in it.
I’m Bidens Economy…. The value will definitely drop 📉
Apparently the 118 people that bought one in America think so!
Just giving a different perspective regarding the rear wipers that you guys always zonked 😆 My family owned a wagon before having those top mounted wipers, problem was: you'll never had a clean wipe! Because the water&snow you scooped up, it still always leak back down making the rear windshield unclean. U see what i mean? 😑
56,000 for a dodge hornet dressed in Dolce and Gabbana. Gtfu outta here.......love ya Joe, awesome content as always...
I ordered a Hornet R/T, it arrived at the dealership with so many software issues and no timeline to correct, I did not take delivery. Subsequently purchased a Tonale Ti. Zero issues and certified technicians at the local Alfa dealership when needed. On pricing, I leased the Tonale and got the $7,500 tax credit. Regarding power, the Tonale has the same horsepower as the hornet ( 285 vs. 288). The hornet 288 includes the powershot feature. Why the torque differences ??
Lastly, all your review are outstanding!
Interesting 🧐 I was thinking about getting a hornet RT if not aQF
If Alfa Romeo had a German emblem, it would be even better than German cars...
Joe, the new Tonale is a great looking SUV. That being said....FCA should have never made this into the Dodge Hornet which is identical to this for thousands less! This vehicle should cost no more than $2-3k grand more than the Dodge. Its the same car! As for is this better than the Mercedes GLA? Yes. Alfa has great Italian style and decent reliability. I own the Stelvio and I would not trade my Stelvio for this smaller model that costs way more. Its not worth the money.
Congrats on the title Steven! Now was that spaghetti just by itself or was it mixed with red or what sauce? Another fun video. I LOVE the wheels on this thing. They stand out across the competition and always catches my eye when I see one in public. Good job outta you Joe.
Interesting Italian plugin hybrid
The perfect car for taking trips to Olive Garden
Great review sir as always and agree with all your issues. I definitely give the price a Zonk. When you can typically get a Stelvio Veloce for the same price (with discounts that are usually on them) I think that is the better choice unless you just have to have the plug in hybrid. I'd say the Veloce should be $45k or so and it would be an excellent choice in my opinion.
I am considering this PHEV seriously for the first time!
Joe: With all the 'on throttle' you did in this video, you didn't touch the D-N-A adjustments...where things can go Dynamic - Natural - Advanced {Efficiency} ... Is there any other Tonale video you'll be doing?
Any idea when to expect a '25 of these?
Mr. Cameraman: Congratulations on the pasta eating contest!
Is it just me or are Joe’s shoulders on point. Suss the definition.
I got my hands on this gorgeous suv hybrid to test drive the other day and over all was amazing how the Eletric car works with the gas engine
Thanks for sharing your great experience with that!
Joe, you are the best! Love love, love your reviews and commentary! 🙌🏾
Cough cough, Hornet! Haha cheers Kirk
imagine having to buy a battery after 5 years for 10K 😂 owners will be at the dealership like “we did it joe”
12:15 Alfa Romeo does have metal rest for the left foot on the Stelvio (at least on some trims). They took some clues from the Stelvio for the Tonale, I don't know why they decided to leave that one out.
"upside down triangle" 🤣
Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the good work and I love the video 👍
Hey Joe the engine sound of the Tonale in the video sounds really good. Is this one of the better sounding 4 cylinders ?
Beautiful SUV. I hope its reliability is better than other of their models. Great video. 👍
Their models have been very reliable for more than 20 years. But when you ask anyone, it it's Italian, they have reliability concerns. ...those concerns are exclusive for those who actually don't have and never had one, which are the vast majority of course. Those who have or had one don't share the same opinion.
Who is telling you such nonsense? Italian cars are among the most reliable in the world.
Cool SUV
HEY RAITIS RIDES I HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING MY NOTIFICATIONS WHEN YOU A NEW VIDEO
Paddle shifters are a must for me (on ICE vehicles). I had both fixed on the steering wheel or on the center console and I like both set ups.
But I have to say that fixed on the center console are better for casual driving in manual mode on tight curves and roundabouts where we usually lift one hand of the wheel. ...as well as on more aggressive driving with some power slides (that I believe the electronic will not allow us on this car). 😊
If they wouldve fixed the infotainment system I would have gone for this
I don't care what anyone says Alfas are beautiful cars
Nice car but top trim needs to cap out at 45-50k. So many other options at that price point that are better and have a better track record of long term reliability
Every other brand has better reliability ...everybody knows that.
Everybody of course, that never actually have or had one.
It's time people stop this nonsense, it's killing the Italian auto industry.
I love the rim
Great review, Sir!!
The Dodge hornet feels way different from the tonale...interior and even exterior. the Alfa feels sharper, a bit more responsive and more refined it feels more premium.
This Compared with :
- BMW X1
- Audi Q3
- Mercedes GLA
- Dodge Hornet
- Ford Puma
- Chevrolet Trax
- Toyota CHR
- Nissan Kicks
- Honda HRV
- Kia Seltos
- Hyundai Kona
- Mazda CX 30
- And More
I love the design of this Alfa Romeo but the driving experience doesn't look very pleasant.
Alfa needs a better dealer network. Would sell more vehicles.
...can't you choose another display configuration to avoid the backward move styling on the dashboard? Digital displays usualy have more than one setup to choose from.
Yes you can. You have 3 designs available, including the classic setup.
Nice car but I noticed why does the steering wheel looks like it came off of a Acura?
I’ll keep my Stelvio thanks
Me too, this tiny thing is wayyyy over priced and people know its also a Dodge Hornet. Shameful marketing from FCA
Is the Alfa Tonale the luxury variant of the Dodge Hornet? Like how the Lexus UX is to the Toyota CH-R, or the Lincoln Corsair is to the Ford Escape? Or is the Tonale just a rebadged Hornet?
The Tonale came first from what I know. The Hornet, IMO, is a cheapened Tonale.
Ooo the wooden spoon 🥄 😱.. 😂😂😂😂
this car is cool but i just hate the way these look at the grille. the triangles just are not it
Nice car
Yes, This is a right vehicle for me to buy one.
Other great review from Joe!!!
I know it’s almost like he’s done the same thing every day for the last five years
Joe ~ just trying to figure out how or why pickle ball has become so popular. tony
You got to give it to the Italians they really know how to do style. Its beautiful . What is a concern is going to be the reliability, they have not been able to prove that they can build a vehicle that are reliable and dependable. After all this is what's left over from Fiat
Lovely vehicle. Take Care Joe/Lori/Stephen.
Compass?
Why this guy hates rear wipers so much, if there’s no wiper… it’s like you have no couches in your living room, it’s plain like something’s missing!
Take it easy man !!!
Beautiful cars!!
It’s A Dodge Hornet. Period!!!! 🐝
Headlights remind me of the ‘24 Mustang.
Even the gauge reminds of a Stang.
All things being equal I'd rather have a stelvio for about the same money plug-in is a bit of that pain in the ass wish they had a regular hybrid
Benz better choice. Looks better and Mercedes always brings their a game for their interiors and technology
Italian cars are always nice .
And cheap
@@Foreign84 that's right .
La vi y me gustó!
i thought you already reviewed the hornet
60k and 1.3cc wow come on
Good car but that price tag is crazy
I like the white roof. Don't care for the blacked out roofs generally. Agree plug in hybrid best choice for most people. Looks good but some misses. By the way Joe 6ft isn't really that tall.
Only about 15% of American men are 6’ tall or greater. So, for 85% of guys it’s something I bet they’d be happy with. I’m 6’-2”, and because I’m used to it I don’t really think I’m that tall but as it turns out less than 4% of American men are that tall or greater. It’s a real thing.
@@tpolerex7282 14.6 %.
14.5%@@tpolerex7282
considering 6 ft as not tall also ignores more than half of the human population (almost all women)
I've seen a few videos on the Tonale. Looking good with decent features but IMO about $8K overpriced.
I think the Hornet looks better and it should be faster as well since it has more HP and Torque than this.
A very nice vehicle. Extremely clever inside; very high tech. Stellantis clearly has capacity limits because the pricing on this car is way too high, so they must not care about volume. Probably don't have the factory capacity to push a lot of units to the USA. It is a bit too small for American tastes. In europe this is as big as you want because of their cramped cities. But here in the USA, why constrain yourself to a small car? A car that would be way more desirable in Europe or Asia.
Not enough in the interior. My Giulia has the aluminum dead pedal. I think Stelvio is the better choice over this.
I’ll keep my Stelvio.
There all Trash unless you get a Gulia or a 4C or an old Alfa from the 80s
@@UnionPacific1997 the Stelvio is a better reliable vehicle than the Giulia
@@rudfil I'll stick with my 1976 Continental
@@UnionPacific1997 😂
@@rudfil has more room and class anyway like driving a damn sofa
Not having another engine choice will hurt it
LOL Most cars are like that today. From the base model to the top trim they all have the same engines, chassis, suspensions and brakes.
For Black Friday and Christmas's should become cheaper by 3-5K
Never even heard of this car😮
get out of the rock
Nice DODGE HORNET 🐝
It would be interesting if they made a quadriflogio(please correct me if I’m wrong)
I don’t see them selling many of these
An Italian car without an Italian exhaust note, that's a zonk!
Don’t care for the wheels.
Nice and nice ❤beautiful
💯💯💯
Uconnect systems have the worst camera resolution. Our 2023 durango patrol vehicles are awful. Also it looks to much like the Hornet with Alfa Romeo slapped on it.
Hey look it's a fancy Dodge hornet 😂
what is dodge hornet? never heard about it vs ALFA ROMEO
wich is better? this or a Lexus RX 350h premium AWD for the same price.
its like comparing an Italian shoes vs Japanese shoes..Which ones are better you think?))
@@theolympus1851 🤣🤣🤣this was a funny one.
i thought it was a dodge hornet at first lol
Not a bad ride, in my opinion.
I wanna see a head to head match up with its brother the dodge
The wheels are just terrible lol all it needs is a wheel change.
Its a ford escape just a little smaller.
An Alfa is never better at luxury than Mercedes. It's going to compete with Audi and BMW at handling, however. They used to have character. One based on a Stellantis chassis, well, Alfa would have to put in the work to make it feel like an Alfa.
What’s the difference between this and the Dodge Hornet?
About $5000
Tuning, steering, braking.
@@benjaminsmith2287 I doubt it
@@joebrito2066 Look for comparison tests. Same platform doesn't equal same car.
GLA 250 if I have to..
looks kinda like a BMW but still a sick suv
JJ ~ it's different, like me - kinda why I'm attracted to it : P
This is a dogde hornet suv wrap in Alfa Romeo
I hope Alfa finally fixed their reliability issue
Italian cars have always been more reliable than the German Nazi garbage.