My Clients Left Without Paying Me After We Shot an 8 Man Limit.. I'm Pissed
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You should do a challenge where you use your least favorite choke with your least favorite shells
Not sure on the KS small claims court laws but you could probably take them to small claims and if you produce good evidence then you could probably win your money back
I wish to come hunting can i come 1 week please
If you don’t want to get stiffed you could always ask for half up front and then half when your done so you at least can weed out the people who won’t pay💰
Bobby you need to draft up a binding contract and have an attorney friend if you happen to have one give it a look for its validity and make sure it covers you from any liabilities for injuries and it sees to it that you receive half upon saving any date on your books that is non refundable without a 45 day cancellation and payment IN FULL prior to cracking off the 1st safety IN the blind. No guarantees 0f limits but no refunds, ect.....Good luck buddy. Always enjoy the videos. Smack em and stack em! Rob-Illinois
50% deposit. The remainder is collected when they show up at the lodge or hunting place. ALWAYS get paid in full before the first hunt starts. I've been doing it since 1995
Yeah that was not smart of Bobby to do it in full after the hunt
that seems to be the standard process on outfitted hunts
I ALWAYS have to pay at least a 1 day deposit for a 2 day hunt. I go with guys who used the same guide for 20 years and the rules never changed.
Yes, Always paid in full before the hunt!! My signed agreement says Hunts/limits are NEVER guarantied!!
Dont get burnt twice bobby cant wait for your duck shoot for u to pay out that money and they walk out i be more then piss off thats money out off your pocket
Do people that pay for guided hunts not understand that it isn’t a guaranteed limit every single morning?
The only place I expect to get what I'm hunt is at a game preserve, and even with that I'd expect it to take 2-3 days.
Shit!Not even close,especially with waterfowl!They are migratory birds and we have not one ounce of control on what happens!There have been millions of guided hunts where there was not 1 shot fired!Its part of it!Cherish the good hunts!
@@shaneward473 100 percent! Those who pay money and expect to limit out every morning most likely have no idea what they’re doing. It’s not always about the kill. It’s about enjoying the process and the fellowship with your buddies. Like you said, we have zero control over what migratory birds will decide to do on any given day.
Ya people don’t understand these are wild animals that don’t want to get shot their probably people that say their great hunters and go once a year
A successful hunt or fishing trip is not about the limit. It's about the memories. A real guide will do everything in their power to get you your game, but it's not always possible. You pay for the guide's experience, access to the land and equipment.
I quit guiding because more and more clients wanted an easy guaranteed limit. Then when I used semi tame (ram, hogs, etc.) animals, they started complaining about it being too easy
Hunting is never about filling a tag or limiting out. Memories and good times. I always say, coffee and sunrise with friends and family! That’s what I like
Bingo and AMEN. Another fine man that gets it. Best to you.
Idk, man. I kinda like the eatin' part the most.
Brilliant!
I just went grouse hunting for the first time. I could have filled my limit but I only got 1 because I wanted to make sure I liked the taste before I shot more. I'm not out there just to kill shit.
My father-in-law's name is Tim Crowley. Small world.
Title should be: Clients left without paying THEN we shot an 8 man limit.
Yeah bc apparently the guys who left weren’t shooting shit. Lol. They bounced on his ass. He’ll be fine. CZcams will give em the loot back. Lol.
The guys in this video are the same ones that got smoked the day before.... yall need to listen better.
Guides need to release names when this happens so that other outfitters don't book with people who have the ability to do this.
yuuup put the scumbags on blast
No fly list for guides.
Willing to bet it’s the Sitka guys from the beginning of the video
They probly do it a lot and laugh about it
Why tf d dos them
Always take your money upfront brother. This is super shitty. F those guys.
I can't fathom doing an outfitter business and not requiring payment in full before anything starts
Exsctly! 50% booking deposit on CC or PayPal and 100% the day before during waiver sign. That is shitty! Thank you for making this video.
Yessir
Civil suit which would make their names public information.
I've been on countless guided duck hunts. This ain't a $15k elk hunt. I've never had to pay up front. You always pay at the end.
You did everything right man my hats off to you. Some people you can’t make happy. God will bless you for your hard work. Praying for your success! ✝️❤️
Even my doctors office has a sign that says, "It is customary to pay for services rendered at the time they are received."
Only a trash person would do something like that.
Amen!!
Absolutely right
I agree!!!
@Ron Stone how is it fishy they didn’t want to pay because there shoot wasn’t going the best so they left please explain how that story doesn’t sound right.
I've never been on a guided hunt that isn't completely paid before any hunting takes place.
Honestly. You pay whether you bag or not. Business is business
No kill no pay .. rule in texas
100%
@@johndoeglogloku5333 and how do u expect outfitters to stay open if it’s no kill no pay lol
@@johndoeglogloku5333 I don't believe that at all for waterfowl guides...You can do a lot of things as a guide, making the birds fly isn't one of them. No Kill, no pay = No guide business. For waterfowl anyway. I've heard of guides offering for the client to come back at a deep discount if the hunt doesn't work out but they have expenses whether you kill or not.
Ma-Mama said that Bobby’s clients are ornery because they got all that Sitka gear but no money to pay Bobby
😂🤣😂☠️☠️☠️
funniest thing i’ve heard todat
...got all that expensive gear, but no waterfowl 😂 😂
They are the devil!! Lol!
No, Vicky Valencourt is the devil Bobby.
I appreciate you showing this! This is why I enjoy the channel, you keep it real and raw. Most people choose to show only the "positive" experiences on their social media account and that just ain't Bobby. Those dudes will get their's one way or another.
Contact the sheriff in the county you live in and file theft of service charges. Since you are technically a self run business providing a service for a set price it’s easily documented. If they refuse to pay you that’s a cut and dry charge. Depending on the amount of money each owed, charges can be a misdemeanor or felony charge.
@David Whitfield if his guide service or anything other guide services in the area say anything along the lines of birds not guaranteed etc he 100% has a case. On top of staying at the lodge, if a liability waiver is signed that’s a contract for services rendered regardless of satisfaction.
$1,000 is a felony in most places
Robert revisore: The fact is, his client didn't hunt, because the guide failed to provide enough targets. It's not like the guy took a bag of ducks, then ran off without paying. You go to a barber shop and the barber cuts half your hair, are you paying the full price. Fuck no, you ain't paying him a fucking dime....right?
@@timhallas4275 Wrong again. The guide is obligated to attempt to create opportunities, but he is not Dr. Doolittle.
@@timhallas4275 The service your paying for in a guided hunt is for the guide to take you out and share his experience. You aren't paying for the guarantee of killing ducks. Any hunter knows there is a reasonable expectation that you won't kill anything when you hunt.
A few months ago I drove 6 hours to NOLA, went fly fishing for reds all day on a skiff, didn't catch a damn fish, then happily paid the man the other half of the $700 price tag plus 20% tip. He did everything he could to put the odds in our favor but the bad weather and morning tournament, both completely out of his control, messed up the fishing for us. Is what it is. The hunting and fishing guide world isn't that big and a shitty reputation as a client can pop up when you least expect it.
But at least you got out and enjoyed bein out in nature
Like the old cliche goes, that's why they call it fishing, not catching. And that's why they call it hunting, not finding.
Pay a man $200 to cut your grass in time for the big family picnic on Friday, and it rains every day that week except Friday. He doesn't cut grass in the rain. You going to pay him $200? $100? $50?... No, you ain't paying him a fucking dime.
Casey Jones.... so this guide took you fishing on a bad weather day, on a lake that was just fished out by a tournament.... and you gave him $840. You better check with your mother.... there is some reason you rode the short bus, and she didn't tell you.
@@timhallas4275 No, he actually cancelled the week before because it was windy/dreary outside. The weekend he cancelled there was a redfish tournament in the Biloxi marsh, the first redfish tournament of the year following 9 months of cancelled tournaments in both Louisiana and Texas following Covid. Every guy and their brother from Texas drove to Chalmette to fish that tournament and blew out the grass. It was up to me whether I cancelled the 2nd week or not, and I didn't want to. He was very clear that the fishing was no good and the weather was not ideal. He has bills to pay, just like me, and he did his best and worked 2 hours past the 8 hours I had paid for. I'm not someone who needs another person to blame when I don't catch fish. If Bill Dance or Flip Pallot can get skunked, so can I, and it isn't the guide's fault.
As my guide says “I’m a guide, not a god.”
Hang in there bob your amazing at what you do man just take the good with the bad.100% respect.
I am ashamed that sportsmen would do such a low class thing like not paying Bobby
They’re not sportsmen, they’re poachers. Or no better than that anyway.
They are not sportsmen. They're scumbags.
Sportsmen have standards and morals in life, and live by them. This is nothing that an Old Fashion Ass Whoopen wouldn’t educate out back the barn !! 🙈
They are not sportsman or hunters I can tell you with confidence they didn't grow up hunting.
Those were not sportsman
They just got to realize that that’s hunting, you can’t always have a good hunt. I feel your frustration, keep up the amazing work bob!!
I agree with you your either going to have a good hunt or your not it all depends on how the birds act
I know I can't kill or catch something everytime it's part of it there's a reason you can't get it at a grocery store
It’s called hunting for a reason. If u got birds every time it’d be called killin!
That’s why it’s called “ hunting “ not “ killing “
Ya hunting not filming for my channel while with clients
This sucks man. I just stumbled onto this video, but you seem like a genuine dude who goes above and beyond for his clients. God bless brother, and all the best for your company and future.
Take them to court and get what you’re owed, plus legal expenses.
You spend more on a small claims case than you'll receive. Even if the court rules in your favor and you receive a judgment against someone it doesn't mean that you're going to get the money.
@@KC-in9px yeah that isn't true. Amazingly cheap to file in small claims court
@@jj18057 Oh but you're wrong. Lol
@@jj18057 You are a lawyer? in all 50 states? Tell me more.
@@TwoAcresandaMule 🙄
That’s really unlucky Bobby hope everything gets payed ! Keep us posted
You can't control when or how the geese or ducks act, don't beat yourself up man! You fo a great job filming and by the sounds of it you are an awesome guide too!
Nothing wrong with sharing names and home towns; let everyone know who the d-bags are.
Brian Blom I'd post names and whatever e lose I have of them and I'd also get all info I could on them and the world will know THIER character
Actually there is a lot wrong with that and can be used in court soooo
@David Whitfield Bullshit. There's nothing wrong with posting their names and what town their from you just can't post personal info like their e-mail, address, phone number.. Educate yourself man!!
@@Triggadan - Rule of thumb...you can sue anyone for anything but I'm not sure your would win here. Doxing tends NOT to be illegal, if the information exposed lies within the public domain, and it was obtained using legal methods, soooo.
@@MrBrianblom doxing is 100% illegal. Lay off the crack pipe dawg
Our hunting dogs are more loyal, and trustworthy than most people , Bobby..You are a good man and will get what you lost , 3 fold..Blessings to You !
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a “money up front” policy. Business is business and like you said, you can’t afford to absorb losses like that.
That said, my opinion is this... give them a chance to make it right and if they don’t/won’t I’d put them on BIGTIME blast! Names, pictures, city/state where they live. Not so much for revenge but if they’ll do that to you they’ll do it to other people, guides, etc.
Alright, maybe don't totally dox people. Names or just telling surrounding outfitters is one thing but the internet works in destructive ways.
@@liamsweeney9240 wonder if you’d still feel that way if they owed YOU a thousand dollars.
Agreed!
@@WikkedR1 $1,000 isn't worth somebody getting hurt like the internet can hurt people. I respect Bobby a hell of a lot more for looking inward to fix the situation rather than outward. It's a sure sign of a thoughtful and intelligent person...the kind of person I can genuinely respect. The world could use a lot more folks like that these days.
thats a great way to open yourself up to a defamation lawsuit which will cost him a lot more than the 1000$ he lost. just let it go and learn from it.
I went out for a turkey day hunt, didn't shoot anything and still paid the $250. You aren't always gonna get what you want.
@Bird Dawg give me the address and I’ll be there when the season arrives!
Everyone takes a loss every now and again bo. Lesson learned and move forward to continue succeeding. Love and support from NC 💯 keep doing you bo
#JusticeforBobby
Thanks for always being a stand up guy and providing badass footage, they’ll gets theirs Bobby!
You and your whole team are awesome people, I cant believe anyone would do yall like that. Dont let it get to you Bobby you'll make that money back 10 times over. You are bigger and better than the guys that left on you without paying, dont let petty people get to you my friend. Dont sweat the little things!✌
“Welcome to the lodge. Pay the nice lady over there.” Move on Bobby and keep on doing what you guys do.
Love the video, don’t love bad hunters. Every guide service I’ve used I’ve had to have my balance due before the hunt. I’ve also been on paid hunts that I haven’t fired a shot. It happens. And hasn’t deterred me from using that guide service either. Keep up with the great videos
You know it's good when someone says "NOT FOR CHILDREN"
Name names. I don’t want the outfitter I work for booking those lowlifes. Now get balance from all hunters before first hunt.
Exactly! Give them the opportunity to make it right, otherwise blackball them.
That’s why it’s called hunting and not killing
Dang man that sucks I wonder why that would do that, love the stuff man don’t let this keep you down maybe I’ll come over to hunt with you some day 😁
I once went to a different state where my Family lived to visit and go on a Turkey hunt. My Dad and my brothers decided to pay a guid to take us in so we could have a better chance at tagging birds.
It was a tough day and a tough hunt. We ended the day with only on bird even being sighted. I never even saw a bird. But we still paid the Guid for his services.
I spent 33 years in law enforcement and I’ve been hunting for almost 47 years. There is one thing I always preach. NEVER screw over a fellow hunter and ALWAYS be a good steward of the land. We have enough haters out there after us. Hunters/fishermen “women” are a brotherhood/sisterhood. We need to respect each other. What they did is theft of services. Most of all they broke a sacred code. I hope they paid you, I feel bad and I don’t even know you. God will reward you and then some.
What's being prior LEO have ANYTHING to do with this? Lol.
@@ryandavids1129 He wants you to thank him. 🤣
@@MrMalicious5 lol. That's exactly what he wants. Our society had got so big on the, everyone who's, military, first responders, nurses, and teachers etc are HEROES. I'm sick of it. Do your job, do it well, and shut up. Stop looking for a reward.
Don’t feel bad man, I’d still go even if we didn’t shoot a single bird. Heck with em!
That’s a bruh moment very unfortunate that people act like that
Man you’re an awesome dude. It’s so not your fault, you simply did everything you could. At the end of the day it’s hunting. No one can hunt perfect everytime. You are damn good at being damn close.
That’s retail theft.... hope it’s not a recurring situation for ya! Good for you posting the hunt that day! 😎. As a business owner I wish you the best and good luck rest of the season! 🥂
Theft of services. File charges.
Can’t file a charge if no contract is signed 101 on running a business.
@@jessicagratton1529 I've had people arrested for theft of service as a waiter.
Always get your money before you clients come, tough lesson to learn.
Sorry that happened to you Brother. I guess that’s a Life lesson. Sux! I just started watching and I really enjoy your video. Hang in there. Love to ya Bro. Keep looking up.
Live and learn. Good coaching opportunity. It's about managing expectations and having a solid contract while taking payments up front. Perhaps offering a discount or some type of repeat shoot when expectations were managed properly but still not met. 🤷♀️
If they signed a Contract, file a claim in the County in which they live with their local Magistrate, Clerk of Courts, Sherrif.......any questions contact me for advice
Shame them. Put up their mugs and make sure they either pay you or that they don't burn someone else. You have their names! I would use shame the hell out of those con men.
Thanks for the videos Bob. I hate to hear someone would do that.
Love the videos. I tried to look in to booking a hunt for this fall and couldn't figure it out. You guys should set up a mobile friendly website. It would definitely make things easier!!! I'm ready to come out and knock some birds down!
That sucks, some people just don't get it, it's a sport sometimes you win big sometimes you don't, but to leave without settling up is just flat out wrong. Bobby and the guys work hard to give the best hunts they can possibly do. Give them the respect they have earned. Keep up the awesome work guy's you do an amazing job.
I have seen on the internet that on a three day hunt one good one, one OK one, and one not so good one is the average. It would be great to have bangers every day but that is not the real world. ?Hunting is a gamble sometimes you win big others you lose. You are paid to do the work, scout, get permission, provide the decoys. You did your job they should pay.
I can't believe that people would have the audacity to do something like that, especially after the hospitality and just straight up class you showed them.
Take care of your guide hear today gone tomorrow!!! Thanks for what u do
first time seeing one of his videos and i dont even hunt or am interested in hunting but this guy seems so nice and chill to watch love it man keep up the work.
Agreed I would share a blind with this guy anytime.
Geesh!! That's a hit man. I work for myself as a frame to finish and everything in between carpenter. Similar to your situation here I've finished a project thinking I'll square up with the customer on what's owed only to discover he/she disappeared or flat out won't pay. Unless one wants or has the means to take legal action you eat it. Most customers/clients won't pay upfront due to those bad eggs who have taken money and ran. Yet seems like everyone forgets that it goes the other way. Clients or customers pull bullshit and screw the company or provider of whatever service.
i'm sure you do, but former builder here, had my own company for 8 yrs until injury ended career, but I don't care how small the change or extra, get it in writing, signed and same thing Contracting(doesn't matter how small the job and the closer the friend, even more important) and be VERY specific in your contracts. I know it saved my ass more then once in my 35 yrs in building...had one customer didn't want to pay me Construction Management fees, so put rt in contract "subcontractors by others"....then she bitched when no electricians, plumbers on job. So I asked "did you hire?" she said "no, that your job"...then I showed her the Contract, it was item number 2 in BIG LETTERS
always gotta pay yourself first. It sucks they had to ruin it for everyone else but never leave it up to the clients bc some don't care that you invested all that time and money some don't care about any of that. pure selfishness. luckily, most people are good and assholes are few and far between so keep up the good work. love the vids have a great season bro!
I have 10 of those headlamps and for everyone watching I highly recommend getting one of those. They are really bright and shine at a great distance!
Doesn’t sound like they left because of a lack of birds, more like something happened or someone said something that pissed them the hell off
Doesn't excuse them. They should grow thicker skin and be adults instead of acting like teenagers. I'm guessing they got pissed because they didn't stay on him on the drive in and got lost for a few minutes. Probably best they left. Anyone with a temper that bad doesn't need to be anywhere near other people while holding a shotgun.
It’s ok Bobby it’s just this week. Regroup and be happy
Bro you bro you got to get your money 💰 Don’t feel bad to have people pay in full when they get their. That’s how it’s supposed to be. And good people like you and me understand. Up front pay will weed out the bad clients that may try to stiff you.
That sucks man. But keep your head up. Your doing great things
Hope you filmed them, make them famous!
We do not know the other side of the story, they would not even be able to defend themself.
“Surprised you let him gooooooooooooo 20 “.
Bobby needs a gold trigger
@@tacosrock11_34 “triggers gold the bird will fold “
Lead the bead
@@coopersmith9748 and she won’t goooooo 20
@@tacosrock11_34,
Humpback Browning. Browning needs to sponsor Bobby!
As a guide, that really bums me out! Put all of that effort in to ensure a good time, despite the tough hunting, only to get burned. That's tough. Keep after it, brother! God Bless!
I think it’s one of the most common things I say is it’s not about what you shoot or catch it’s about getting out and enjoying nature. Can’t believe what these guys did.
Bro I would be so pissed, but other than that man great hunt
Damn! It’s called “hunting”. There’s never a guarantee.
Ya that is what makes hunting fun it is challenging
For Christmas 3 years in a row I have had my mom and grandmother get me dux hat pants and hoodie and this year I got a dux duck call. Love waching vids keep it up
I run a walleye charter here in Michigan on lake Erie.. trust me that won't be the last one that will try to ditch out! But the majority of clients are good people and you have to deal with a few bad apples every now and then! Great video
10:27 I saw you at the place you were eating lol, definitely a good place
Take them to court... And get deposits
It’s not even worth it, after lawyers and stuff, bob would be out thousands
@@benlee7758 i am sure he has a waiver and agreement you have to sign to hunt with him.
Phil Madewell the truth is that Bobby is going to do things different now as he should. He’s a stand up guy and I doubt he would take someone to court over it anyhow. He learned his lesson
Never been on a guided hunt but if I ever do, hope it's with someone that cares as much about their clients as you do.
That's crappy dude, I hope they come to there seance and realize what they did.
Bob your awesome
Keep on keeping on
That’s why it’s called hunting and not killing! I feel ya brother my dad used to guide deer and turkey and you just can’t please everyone.
Is it not legal to shot in Scotland ?
From now on Bobby's gonna be like Eric B. and Rakim: PAID IN FULL
Got it in the truck right now.
I'm gonna have to hit you up and make it out there brother. Looks like a worthwhile trip.
Great vid even though it happened keep up the good work
When are the dux calls gona get restocked?
Love the vids man me and my dad just got into gosse hunting and we love we are from Arkansas we both been watching since 100k .
Arkansas gang
Arkansas is the best
@@lukeyates3134 Arkansas is the best when we have birds
@@Mr_Mamba1 my year has been pretty weak in Arkansas. Yours too?
@@cspruitt3190 I'm in NWA so its always weak😂 but honestly every time but once Ive went out Ive killed at least one and thats mainly public.
People see all the great hunts plastered all over the Internet and get a false perception that every hunt is a banger. They must not have been hunting long enough to know that you can’t control the birds. Props to you Bobby you’re a great guy and don’t take it to heart
BOBBY!!!
take it as lesson learned my friend
Don’t let a few bad apples spoil the pie . They will get bit by karma
Keep up the great content
I like how he walks around his house with his shotgun
You mean you like him walking around the house like an irresponsible fool. You wonder why liberals want gun laws it's because of people like you
Man that is not cool. At all. Messed up people today, keep doing what you’re doing tho Bob!
I went on a guided fishing trip last fall, the guy was very trusting didn't want payment over the phone. Short notice so we didn't have time to mail a check. I made sure he had his cash before his boat trailer touched the ramp just to avoid a bad situation. Yes it was a lot of money but he taught us a lot!! Plus its fun getting familiar with new places when you get to spend a few hours with a local guy. Just my experience. I hope they decide to pay up for you!!
Sickening. Keep that head up Bob!
Maybe you should at least have them pay half up front if not all
Very unfortunate, sorry to hear about that, sometimes people just suck
You could tell that they weren’t vibing early in the morning 😅😅
I did a guided hunt last year we had the guide and 4 guns, we shot 2 geese........we paid in full and tipped the guide. Its about respect and appreciation.
What outfitter/guide pulls up and shoots on a single when they have clients in the field? Lol
Yeah maybe Bobby shot all the birds! Lol....if I was guiding i wouldn't be shooting!
I thought the same thing when I saw that...not cool...but definitely some lessons learned here i believe
Every guide I’ve ever hunted with shot birds
@@9mad0trapper7 guides ive been around will shoot if the birds are plentiful but not on a single when that days hunt has been crappy as it is...not trying to bash Bob(love the vids!) but if I paid that kind of money to hunt and the guide shoots the only bird of the day it would sour my opinion a little jmo
I've only been on 4 guided duck goose hunts.
All in Canada. our guides never hunted or shot...
on our last day we a went skeet shooting and fishing together. I wouldn't want my guide outfitter to shoot single's and on slow bird days... that would be frustrating.
Thats messed up Bobby do they have deposits paid?
No need to apologize, you must protect yourself… almost as important as those waivers.
Payment in full day one boys. That’s how it is every place I go. No shame in it. Head up keep on truckn. Love the channel keep em coming
I recently went on a fishing trip on the Gulf of Mexico(Texas coast) with some buddies. Wasn't a great experience. We felt like our guide wasn't doing his job and we weren't happy at all. Do you know what we did? We paid the man. Do you know what we're not going to do? Not going to use his services again. I'm not comparing you to him and saying that you did a bad job. Sounds like you went out of your way to make it up to them in other ways. Just saying that you have to pay for the service that is provided and, if you weren't satisfied, don't go back.
Half down and rest due when the show up
Same thing happened on fishing charter..I tell people its called fishing not catching. I show you hospitality and a good trip i can lead you to them but can't make you catching them suck when they pull this . Keep up the great work
It seems like you went above and beyond for these people. They just straight up did not want to pay you. Screw them keep on trucking you got this.
If a thousand dollars bothers someone that much they should be working not hunting.
Sad reality
I got the DUX goose call for Christmas and the first hunt with it we shot a 2 man!!🤙🤙
Good for you bro!