Editor's Note: Sadly, 5 months after posting, a copyright troll has claimed the music used in the first 5 minutes, and thus CZcams has decided it had to be muted to keep the video up. I apologize for this, but it is only limited to a couple sections in the opening 5 minutes, the rest of the video is still unchanged.
He had a line that said “white moderates get uncomfortable and ask why you can’t just protest peacefully”, with the response “why, so you can ignore it” reminds me of my favorite line I’ve ever heard from a comedian named Ben Bernard(welcome to the table-states guy) “What’s the point in protesting if we aren’t giving you a reason to make us stop?”
It's wild to see the exact mindset that King was criticizing on display in response to King's actual criticism. Chatter probably thinks King didn't have anything to say about Vietnam either.
It’s like when I talk to my religious family members about Jesus and how he protected prostitutes and they say “Nuh uh” And then I go and quote the most famous of Jesus quotes that everyone knows I know people who don’t even realize Tupac Shakur was pro choice or that Kurt cobain was a feminist and pro LGBTQ people like Steven crowder who dress up as him and even idolize him but “knows not what it means” as Kurt would say. People whitewash a lot of famous people to make themselves feel better about figures once considered polarizing Like how old racists listen to Elvis or fortunate son without realizing Elvis was hated for “being too black with dancing” or fortunate son being an anti war song Its like how elder millennials vote trump then crank up American idiot, rage against the machine, and System of a Down in their car
@@-Mushroom_Kid- Damn bro are you me? 😂 I can sense your frustration through this post. You had me from the start with Tupac, Kurt and Elvis. Then the Fortunate Son thing guaranteed I HAD to reply lmao. It blows my mind there are still good ol boys who don't know it's an anti-war anthem. It's the same thing as fascists driving around blasting Rage Against the Machine not knowing they are a cog in the machine we're raging against...(LMAO DAMN YOU I STG I WROTE THIS BEFORE FINISHING YOUR POST) You know what's up, Blaze. Don't ever change!
MLK handwrote the Letter From Birmingham Jail in a dark jail cell, writing in the margins of a daily newspaper which announced that the local white Christian pastors he'd been reaching out to in Birmingham, they condemned him over the fake police announcement of his arrest for made-up charges. Later he wrote a book about the experience in that city "Stride Toward Freedom" and the audio is his real voice narrating an audiobook version of his book. Most memorably he wrote "I have nearly reached the regrettable conclusion that the greatest stumbling block in the negro's stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councilor or Ku Klux Klanner, but the White Liberal."
@zorba9660 that's not dishonest. It is relevant and it refers to all white moderates. It is about his disillusion with white people with phony support abroad.
Sorry but implying that Bernie and AOC are liberals is uncharitable delusion. If MLK was alive today, Second Thought would say he is a liberal for preaching non-violent resistance and would rally against him for not being an anarcho-communist
@@LiarJudas666 You can get that letter online and check who it’s refer to. Do a minimum before believing in sly tankies. And FYI MLK supported Isreal and also advocated for Zionists.
22:00 what Hasan says here reminds me of that one Key & Peele sketch where Obama is in a room doing reverse psychology on Republicans because they hate him cuz he’s black. But when put in this context I’m starting to question the validity of that sketch and who it’s really for.
@@Unlyricallyrics I think they're funny but his whole "trying to keep the left in his little bubble" thing is hella problematic. I think that thoughtslime is a much better libertarian socialist than he is.
Because ultimately liberals, especially the boomers think our system is perfect and the only issue to be addressed is - discrimination ( which is necessary but it’s not the only issue )
imagine some girl from germany complaining about "no nazism" in peoples profile and then she would go on saying she had to remove her origin from her profile, thinking that "no nazism" would somehow be the same as "no german"...
“Classic grifter rejecting money to fight for his beliefs”. That easily disproves all the claims of hasan being a grifter. I love you pointed that out @hasan reactions. Again best fan channel! Thank you for your work. You provide context and a ability to watch what I miss. For a father that also works it’s hard to catch hasans whole stream. We should thumps up this channel as much as we can. But don’t forget about hasan’s CZcams channel as well. Non the less thanks good work.
I sent this to Amanda Seales Patreon, I think she'll enjoy it as well. After all, yall both Majority Report fans too. Also, i just wanna say, Piker, this made my day. Thank You!!!! Much Love and Appreciation Your way for who You are n all You do. Your content's Always Important, Enlightening, Awesome and just provides much needed Sanity.
That's literally me. Like, there was a video on a different channel, and even tho I was certain that this was from last night, I was like, I'll check the stream first, cuz I haven't seen Hasan reactions upload it, and now that they have, I'm here without checking the stream, cuz they upload stuff before the next stream. Also, here the video is more than an hour, and the other one I saw was about 30 minutes, so I'm really glad that I decided not to watch it on a different channel. This is literally the best fan channel. And not only when talking about Hasan fan channels, but as a whole. One love ❤️
@@raven_g6667 for the price, I was very pleased with the service. I found out within a few hours because there was a Second Thought video on my feed on YT, so when I switched over, I couldn't find any of his content. After googling and finding the reason on a Reddit page (terrible arguments there-so offensive), I immediately unsubscribed. So yeah, I've been off the platform since October.
Regarding the reform aspect: I definitely agree. However, it may be hard to find the right support system/community that is more forgiving and patient. I'm not sure if that exists right now. And it's so easy to fall back into their old ways of thinking. There are individuals but groups are more fraught. That does go back to Hasan's point about people who are actually interested in learning will push through and have to patient as well (not his exact words obvs). From that Jubilee episode and Shapiro interview, I'm pretty sure Destiny doesn't have a compass, even his fey liberalism seems like a veneer with no real ideology or thought. Except for maybe the contrarianism. He seems like Tim Pool to me.
Sure it gets exhausting to tell people Who don’t believe you have a right to exist that you have a right to exist. But the white nationalists have that patience to convince you to believe what they believe. It’s all about knowing what battles to choose knowing who is set in their ways and who is actually just misinformed and listening to propaganda.
my mind was changed by hasan, funny enough though, I always felt there was something wrong with liberals and conservatives, i was a giant centrist, it was only after watching hasan for many months that i realised it was the structures and the inherent contradictions of capitalism that was creating my suspicions for either side, the solution was never in liberalism. People's minds can be changed, but i wonder how it happens for others, i already had a feeling something was off, it took me time to realise it was systemic, and shake away the capitalist dogma and american exceptionalism.
For me I started out very conservative as a kid and teen then gradually started calling myself leftist socially and right wing economically. But then I started to do more research on what that actually even meant, and at the same time got introduced to hasan by him reacting to Ben shapiro and watching him rly challenged my idea of socialism cus I rly didn’t know anything about it before
That's not "defeatist" approach Hasan. If you know your enemies and liberals are among them, you'll have more chance to win the war and carry the revolution to victory (I'm assuming you're a revolutionary socialist). According to your logic Lenin was a defeatist too then, because he declared the liberals also the enemy.
Hasan doesn't see revolution as realistic, so he's playing the long game trying to prepare future generations for it. I also don't really see it as realistic (for the US specifically) but I still think we should advocate for it. You never know when the contradictions reach a breaking point. They say everything seems impossible until it happens.
@@Alex_Barbosa A revolution is impossible right now because the work hasn't been done to make it possible. It takes years to train a disciplined organization of revolutionaries.
@@Alex_Barbosa Hasan self-identifies as a "revisionist Marxist" and Democratic Socialist. He is categorically NOT trying to work towards revolution as much as I wish otherwise.
@@tankiegirl Hasan on various lefty podcasts well as sometimes in his streams and interviews defends reformist stance, which means a gradual transition towards a socialist society. But that doesn't mean he is against a revolution, he understandably thinks a revolution is extremely unlikely in a world of capitalist hegemony, let alone the US. I myself also think revolution today is risky and in some cases dangerous, but I do think that so long there is enough class consciousness, of capitalism being an obsolete system, it might be a good option. After all Liberal and Mercantilist ideals grew for centuries before culminating in the French bourgeois revolution.
I am not a neo liberal, but i do believe that violence, always generates counter-violence. I know its easy for me to say that aggressively protesting is not the right way (privileged in almost every aspect of life), but change takes time, thats always been the case. You cant expect people to change their opinion on important questions, just because of facts, statistics or what ever, even when they are well founded. People tend to confuse their opinions with their ego and feel personaly attacked when someone comes by and tries to convince them of something. That applies to everyone, doesn't matter which political views they hold. Its a very hard learning to decouple your self worth from the opinions you hold, but a very important step for us as a society. Also you have to keep in mind, its something every generation has to learn again for themselves, so our society is bound to evolve in waves. It enables us to listen instead of continuously repeating the same points. I know we have to start somewhere, but hatefully demanding rights or going to war wont ever bear healthy long-term change, it just will radicalize people that would otherwise listen. People aren't inherently hateful.
I agree with the first 2 lines, you are too priviliged to understand this stuff and so your opinion came out as extremely dumb and ignorant, the worst situation you've ever been in is "mildly inconvenienced" so you think thats the reason why people protest or riot or go to war, it never crossed your mind that perhaps people turn violent because they are being slaughtered when they act peacefully, you feel so good about yourself preaching peaceful ways to the oppressed but never questioning the violence of the oppressor, before you say "hatefully demanding rights isn't good" how about you say "hatefully taking away rights isn't good" ? This dude wants people to just keep dying without resisting because otherwise liberals won't listen, ain't nobody got time to convince someone who can't tell right from wrong.
Damn, ST had that smoke for Bernie. While I totally agree his stance on Israel is beyond reproach. Dude has is not a fake leftist. He's a real one with a huge HUGE blindspot. Again, you can think it's disqualifying, but being intellectually honest, he's no Fetterman.
Supporting genocide isn't a blind spot. Supporting genocide means he's not a leftist. Do you westerners simply not see people in the global south as human beings is that it? This is a freaking genocide that he's supporting
You're so impressed by mild policies it's crazy. Americans would glaze the Strasser brothers if they were American politicians today, they were economically more radical than Bernie too.
He doesn’t. He’s pointing out that liberals are conflating zionism with Judaism and using the word Zionist as a substitute for antisemitic slurs. A good example is anytime someone calls him a Zionist. He’s stated clearly a million times how much he is against what the Israeli government is doing and that he agrees that Palestinians should stop being turned into skeletons, but people still sling the word Zionist at him.
@@doctorriptide2264 yeah but he specifically pointed out a tweet from frogan about her Zionist therapist and just assumed she just meant jew and was trying to hide antisemitism. What if she was a conservative Cristian Zionist? That didn't even cross ethens mind
@@doctorriptide2264Ethan is definitely NOT a Zionist, but he is certainly using the “all lives matter” argument, and liberal takes as described in this video when the issue comes up. Only to turn around and act like an “I’m just asking questions” Andy. Again, doesn’t make him a Zionist, he’s just a little dumb.
you should watch the film Battle of Algiers, shows you the battle against imperialism and dignity is not clean but nesccary at times. would love to hear your comments on it.
it’s an ethnicized religion. ethnicity and race are nebulous social constructs, religion is ironically more concrete. anti-Semites hate Jewish people in a racist manner, not out of disagreement over religious views. another good example is how Islamophobia is also a form of racist bigotry because it’s really anti-Arab sentiment. Islamophobic people will target Sikhs just for having darker skin and wearing a turban, despite turbans not even being really related to Islam
another good way to explain this is how Nazis don’t consider Jewish people to be white. it isn’t based on anything real, it’s just a way to find “acceptable” targets for subjugation and extermination
Oh, NOW I see what this is! YOU edit a buncha the shit Hasan says, lol! I thought this WAS his channel! I sub to it, but haven't bothered with it for a while. Anyhow, very cool, and subbing now to YOURS here as well!
People like Second Thought are the ones to watch out for. If you grow up learning absolutism as a the valid way to see the world, whether it's left or right, you will never have the necessary amount of support and ability to enact change. You essentially sound like the religious right calling you fallen sinners and that you need to repent; lest you face divine punishment. In Second Thought's heaven, it's the state that will cast you into the lake of fire. That's why JT's use of patronizing and dehumanizing language towards those that just live their lives in the system will lead to his irrelevance. People do not like to be chastised or preached to if they are struggling much more than he is.
Second Thought is referring to people who pretend to have leftist views but will be vocal against any radical actions to push for change, essentially they want to be perceived as progressives while they put all of their efforts into maintaining the status quo, progressives in principal, conservatives in practice.
disagree conservatives often believe their nonsense so they have hope for change for the better liberals know what they are doing is wrong and choose to do it anyway.
20:08 listen i dont give a shit about “the squad” or electoral politics in general really but this previous point felt a bit dishonest. he showed articles about AOC and the squad while referring to “more liberal democrats” and then said that every democratic senator voted for the aid package. The squad isn’t in the Senate. Maybe they also voted for the package. I wouldn’t be surprised tbh. I just think stuff like this is lazy bc it _looks_ dishonest. Maybe most people don’t watch this kind of thing that closely but Ive noticed a few things like this. Even the opening lines. If i was a reddit style liberal I would feel like he’s trying to talk to me like I’m a baby. Even though I agree that liberals honestly do think to some degree that MLK just gave a speech so good he ended Jim Crow, it still sounds like a straw man. It’s like condescending and theres really no effort on his part to justify it. idk why I’m writing this I guess bad rhetoric bothers me.
As a conservative, I love watching these vids. It gives me solace to know that the left is much more divided and ideologically scatterbrained than the right is. People like Second Thought are a great gift to our movement. 🙂
I love how you think you’re being clever or snarky but you’re just exposing your extremely limited knowledge on politics and lack of intellect 🤡..the “right” can’t even figure out if they hate Jews and their space lasers or if they want to send all our money to Israel 🤦🏽♂️
@@wesleystreet MLK was actually smart about politics, he did not lose his mind every time a politician or even political party did something he disagreed with. He did not believe in Kamikaze politics or personality cult politics. MLK did not view politicians as people we had to like or agree with 100%. He viewed politicians and political parties as tools. Not a collection of personalities. Based on this, there is NO doubt, MLK would have been with Biden.
@@wesleystreet Black people play a far more prominent role in the Biden administration than in the GQP. Biden has appointed a lot of Black people to the federal bench, whereas the GQP is almost 100% white male. But Biden does not pass the purity test for privileged, white "leftists" so it must be full blown trumpian fascism in America to "teach them a lesson".
Sadly , you might have a point . This distinction is way more nuanced in Europe , the French people experienced it first hand with Macron's policy . The bourgeois aspect of Liberalism cannot be understated .
Editor's Note: Sadly, 5 months after posting, a copyright troll has claimed the music used in the first 5 minutes, and thus CZcams has decided it had to be muted to keep the video up. I apologize for this, but it is only limited to a couple sections in the opening 5 minutes, the rest of the video is still unchanged.
He had a line that said “white moderates get uncomfortable and ask why you can’t just protest peacefully”, with the response “why, so you can ignore it” reminds me of my favorite line I’ve ever heard from a comedian named Ben Bernard(welcome to the table-states guy)
“What’s the point in protesting if we aren’t giving you a reason to make us stop?”
_"Terror without virtue is murderous, virtue without terror is powerless"_
- Maximilien Robespierre, _7th of May 1794_
Hmmm.......@@landosllim4576
Yeah, I remember that line every time I think about this
The little boy who was stabbed by his landlord in Chicago, was indeed Palestinian.
(((landlord)))
The Landlord wasn't also Jewish. It was a White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, whom are the dominant majority among the ruling class.
@@eges72 Why is Anglo-Saxon such a big deal?
@@user-yh1nm1vy3i cuz they love qulon eyezing things
::Man literally reading words:: Chatter: "He never said that" 😂
It's wild to see the exact mindset that King was criticizing on display in response to King's actual criticism. Chatter probably thinks King didn't have anything to say about Vietnam either.
It’s like when I talk to my religious family members about Jesus and how he protected prostitutes and they say “Nuh uh”
And then I go and quote the most famous of Jesus quotes that everyone knows
I know people who don’t even realize Tupac Shakur was pro choice or that Kurt cobain was a feminist and pro LGBTQ people like Steven crowder who dress up as him and even idolize him but “knows not what it means” as Kurt would say.
People whitewash a lot of famous people to make themselves feel better about figures once considered polarizing
Like how old racists listen to Elvis or fortunate son without realizing Elvis was hated for “being too black with dancing” or fortunate son being an anti war song
Its like how elder millennials vote trump then crank up American idiot, rage against the machine, and System of a Down in their car
Liberals and NeoCons are allergic to factual data and history.
@@-Mushroom_Kid- Damn bro are you me? 😂 I can sense your frustration through this post. You had me from the start with Tupac, Kurt and Elvis. Then the Fortunate Son thing guaranteed I HAD to reply lmao. It blows my mind there are still good ol boys who don't know it's an anti-war anthem. It's the same thing as fascists driving around blasting Rage Against the Machine not knowing they are a cog in the machine we're raging against...(LMAO DAMN YOU I STG I WROTE THIS BEFORE FINISHING YOUR POST) You know what's up, Blaze. Don't ever change!
@@-Mushroom_Kid- tupac wasn't just pro choice, the man was literally a member of the baltimore chapter of the young communist league USA in his youth
MLK handwrote the Letter From Birmingham Jail in a dark jail cell, writing in the margins of a daily newspaper which announced that the local white Christian pastors he'd been reaching out to in Birmingham, they condemned him over the fake police announcement of his arrest for made-up charges.
Later he wrote a book about the experience in that city "Stride Toward Freedom" and the audio is his real voice narrating an audiobook version of his book.
Most memorably he wrote "I have nearly reached the regrettable conclusion that the greatest stumbling block in the negro's stride toward freedom is not the White Citizens Councilor or Ku Klux Klanner, but the White Liberal."
Everyone needs a wingman.
White moderates*
The tinder article is literally copy pasted from the “conservative can’t get bitches” articles but find/replace the word “conservative” with “Zionist”
Gives me faith in young people.
Thats what Birthright is for...
forgot there was a second thought vid, loved that stunlock
When the video opens with an excerpt from letter from Birmingham jail, I know it'll be heat
But he dishonestly left out the part who MLK was referring to.
@zorba9660 that's not dishonest. It is relevant and it refers to all white moderates. It is about his disillusion with white people with phony support abroad.
Sorry but implying that Bernie and AOC are liberals is uncharitable delusion. If MLK was alive today, Second Thought would say he is a liberal for preaching non-violent resistance and would rally against him for not being an anarcho-communist
@@zorba9660and who would that be??
@@LiarJudas666 You can get that letter online and check who it’s refer to. Do a minimum before believing in sly tankies. And FYI MLK supported Isreal and also advocated for Zionists.
22:00 what Hasan says here reminds me of that one Key & Peele sketch where Obama is in a room doing reverse psychology on Republicans because they hate him cuz he’s black. But when put in this context I’m starting to question the validity of that sketch and who it’s really for.
obama was the white liberal's pawn.
Letter from Birmingham Jail is a banger, it takes about 15 mins to read, go check it out if you haven’t.
Hasan is hands down the funniest lefty commentator.
he is really funny, I also think the boys on chapo trap house are very funny if not funnier jsyk
Not saying he's better but if we only go by 'funny', vaush is by far funniest.
@@Unlyricallyrics Not even close tbh.
Shark3ozero is the funniest, yall trippin
@@Unlyricallyrics I think they're funny but his whole "trying to keep the left in his little bubble" thing is hella problematic. I think that thoughtslime is a much better libertarian socialist than he is.
Literally the best channel ever.
One love ❤️
One love! One love!
Second thought ! Then maybe this
When King wrote the , Breaking the Silence ,” speech, the liberals balked .
Because ultimately liberals, especially the boomers think our system is perfect and the only issue to be addressed is - discrimination ( which is necessary but it’s not the only issue )
Malcom X is such a legend.
I can confirm…
…first date in the U.K. is now - fish, chips and genocide apology.
Second thought popped the fuck off in this one
Looks like he got you liberals right
imagine some girl from germany complaining about "no nazism" in peoples profile and then she would go on saying she had to remove her origin from her profile, thinking that "no nazism" would somehow be the same as "no german"...
“Classic grifter rejecting money to fight for his beliefs”. That easily disproves all the claims of hasan being a grifter. I love you pointed that out @hasan reactions. Again best fan channel! Thank you for your work. You provide context and a ability to watch what I miss. For a father that also works it’s hard to catch hasans whole stream. We should thumps up this channel as much as we can. But don’t forget about hasan’s CZcams channel as well. Non the less thanks good work.
I sent this to Amanda Seales Patreon, I think she'll enjoy it as well. After all, yall both Majority Report fans too.
Also, i just wanna say, Piker, this made my day. Thank You!!!! Much Love and Appreciation Your way for who You are n all You do. Your content's Always Important, Enlightening, Awesome and just provides much needed Sanity.
The way Hasan ignores that his friend Ethan is exactly everything he’s describing 💀
The story about Zionist not getting dates is the modern equivalent of natural selection 😂
Anyone else see other hasan channels post something and check if it's here to watch first?
That's literally me. Like, there was a video on a different channel, and even tho I was certain that this was from last night, I was like, I'll check the stream first, cuz I haven't seen Hasan reactions upload it, and now that they have, I'm here without checking the stream, cuz they upload stuff before the next stream. Also, here the video is more than an hour, and the other one I saw was about 30 minutes, so I'm really glad that I decided not to watch it on a different channel.
This is literally the best fan channel. And not only when talking about Hasan fan channels, but as a whole.
One love ❤️
there are pros and cons to other channels. this one is all pros tho
‘gets eaten by a shark’ is really good for shorter-form clips
38:30 is crazy hes looking at the under 25 slider
When they said editor at large they meant to say large editor...
ok the tinder article looks like a damn seinfeld episode lmao
I had Nebula and I liked it, but left as soon as JT’s channel was booted.
I never got the service. I wanted to but when I found out they kicked JT, I decided not to. No hate to any of the creators there tho
@@raven_g6667 for the price, I was very pleased with the service. I found out within a few hours because there was a Second Thought video on my feed on YT, so when I switched over, I couldn't find any of his content. After googling and finding the reason on a Reddit page (terrible arguments there-so offensive), I immediately unsubscribed. So yeah, I've been off the platform since October.
He's on MeansTV now. A much better platform by comparison.
Why did they boot JT
@@carlos_herrera his "militant" views on Gaza.
Saturday morning. Let's go!! This is crazy!
Regarding the reform aspect: I definitely agree. However, it may be hard to find the right support system/community that is more forgiving and patient. I'm not sure if that exists right now. And it's so easy to fall back into their old ways of thinking. There are individuals but groups are more fraught. That does go back to Hasan's point about people who are actually interested in learning will push through and have to patient as well (not his exact words obvs). From that Jubilee episode and Shapiro interview, I'm pretty sure Destiny doesn't have a compass, even his fey liberalism seems like a veneer with no real ideology or thought. Except for maybe the contrarianism. He seems like Tim Pool to me.
October 7th made me realize that liberalism as it operates now is more of a team sport with a general belief system.
Sure it gets exhausting to tell people Who don’t believe you have a right to exist that you have a right to exist. But the white nationalists have that patience to convince you to believe what they believe. It’s all about knowing what battles to choose knowing who is set in their ways and who is actually just misinformed and listening to propaganda.
Second thought with the Disco Elysium ass soundtrack, my socialist heart is bleeding.
my mind was changed by hasan, funny enough though, I always felt there was something wrong with liberals and conservatives, i was a giant centrist, it was only after watching hasan for many months that i realised it was the structures and the inherent contradictions of capitalism that was creating my suspicions for either side, the solution was never in liberalism. People's minds can be changed, but i wonder how it happens for others, i already had a feeling something was off, it took me time to realise it was systemic, and shake away the capitalist dogma and american exceptionalism.
For me I started out very conservative as a kid and teen then gradually started calling myself leftist socially and right wing economically. But then I started to do more research on what that actually even meant, and at the same time got introduced to hasan by him reacting to Ben shapiro and watching him rly challenged my idea of socialism cus I rly didn’t know anything about it before
That's not "defeatist" approach Hasan. If you know your enemies and liberals are among them, you'll have more chance to win the war and carry the revolution to victory (I'm assuming you're a revolutionary socialist). According to your logic Lenin was a defeatist too then, because he declared the liberals also the enemy.
Hasan isn't a revolutionary unfortunately
Hasan doesn't see revolution as realistic, so he's playing the long game trying to prepare future generations for it.
I also don't really see it as realistic (for the US specifically) but I still think we should advocate for it. You never know when the contradictions reach a breaking point. They say everything seems impossible until it happens.
@@Alex_Barbosa A revolution is impossible right now because the work hasn't been done to make it possible. It takes years to train a disciplined organization of revolutionaries.
@@Alex_Barbosa Hasan self-identifies as a "revisionist Marxist" and Democratic Socialist. He is categorically NOT trying to work towards revolution as much as I wish otherwise.
@@tankiegirl Hasan on various lefty podcasts well as sometimes in his streams and interviews defends reformist stance, which means a gradual transition towards a socialist society. But that doesn't mean he is against a revolution, he understandably thinks a revolution is extremely unlikely in a world of capitalist hegemony, let alone the US.
I myself also think revolution today is risky and in some cases dangerous, but I do think that so long there is enough class consciousness, of capitalism being an obsolete system, it might be a good option. After all Liberal and Mercantilist ideals grew for centuries before culminating in the French bourgeois revolution.
Im more of a Malcom x guy frfr but the white moderate quote from MLK is my favorite quote of all time. It rings in my black ass head everyday
Loving it
You love it!
I like how Second thought doesn’t mention the difference between classical liberals (or neoliberals) and Keynesian-New deal Liberals
this summaries the western morality so well
I am not a neo liberal, but i do believe that violence, always generates counter-violence. I know its easy for me to say that aggressively protesting is not the right way (privileged in almost every aspect of life), but change takes time, thats always been the case. You cant expect people to change their opinion on important questions, just because of facts, statistics or what ever, even when they are well founded. People tend to confuse their opinions with their ego and feel personaly attacked when someone comes by and tries to convince them of something. That applies to everyone, doesn't matter which political views they hold. Its a very hard learning to decouple your self worth from the opinions you hold, but a very important step for us as a society. Also you have to keep in mind, its something every generation has to learn again for themselves, so our society is bound to evolve in waves. It enables us to listen instead of continuously repeating the same points. I know we have to start somewhere, but hatefully demanding rights or going to war wont ever bear healthy long-term change, it just will radicalize people that would otherwise listen. People aren't inherently hateful.
I agree with the first 2 lines, you are too priviliged to understand this stuff and so your opinion came out as extremely dumb and ignorant, the worst situation you've ever been in is "mildly inconvenienced" so you think thats the reason why people protest or riot or go to war, it never crossed your mind that perhaps people turn violent because they are being slaughtered when they act peacefully, you feel so good about yourself preaching peaceful ways to the oppressed but never questioning the violence of the oppressor, before you say "hatefully demanding rights isn't good" how about you say "hatefully taking away rights isn't good" ?
This dude wants people to just keep dying without resisting because otherwise liberals won't listen, ain't nobody got time to convince someone who can't tell right from wrong.
Things are never going to change with people like you in charge, 40000+ killed and they don't care
Ethan loves Hamilton this fits so well 🙄
Damn, ST had that smoke for Bernie. While I totally agree his stance on Israel is beyond reproach. Dude has is not a fake leftist. He's a real one with a huge HUGE blindspot. Again, you can think it's disqualifying, but being intellectually honest, he's no Fetterman.
For the future, beyond reproach means unquestionable
Supporting genocide isn't a blind spot. Supporting genocide means he's not a leftist. Do you westerners simply not see people in the global south as human beings is that it? This is a freaking genocide that he's supporting
Succdems gonna succdem
You're so impressed by mild policies it's crazy. Americans would glaze the Strasser brothers if they were American politicians today, they were economically more radical than Bernie too.
“leftist” is bullshit nowadays anyways.
4:26 Totally agree with what he’s saying. Time to wake up Hasan.
Hinge? More like unhinged.
I can’t believe no one said Tacoma wept about that dummy getting off hinge lol
I hate that ethen has the Zionism = Jewish take
He doesn’t. He’s pointing out that liberals are conflating zionism with Judaism and using the word Zionist as a substitute for antisemitic slurs. A good example is anytime someone calls him a Zionist. He’s stated clearly a million times how much he is against what the Israeli government is doing and that he agrees that Palestinians should stop being turned into skeletons, but people still sling the word Zionist at him.
@@doctorriptide2264 yeah but he specifically pointed out a tweet from frogan about her Zionist therapist and just assumed she just meant jew and was trying to hide antisemitism. What if she was a conservative Cristian Zionist? That didn't even cross ethens mind
If the shoe fits.@@doctorriptide2264
@@doctorriptide2264Ethan is definitely NOT a Zionist, but he is certainly using the “all lives matter” argument, and liberal takes as described in this video when the issue comes up. Only to turn around and act like an “I’m just asking questions” Andy. Again, doesn’t make him a Zionist, he’s just a little dumb.
@@doctorriptide2264no he's still a zionist. join the snarkers you can do it
Hasan's British accent sounds like the cheese obsessed villain from the Box Trolls movie 😂
you should watch the film Battle of Algiers, shows you the battle against imperialism and dignity is not clean but nesccary at times. would love to hear your comments on it.
Great film.
Biden used domain expansion?
Britian had the original domain expansion
Good morning
jumpscared by an NL clip, egg stays winning
Idk why but when Hasan started talking about losing a hobkai starail sponsor I though it was tectone for a second
Liberalism is vibes-based politics
39:30 Hasan’s scream has me cackling
After he saw Destiny and Vaush Hasan was scared that he’d be on here too
They don’t even want each other yet complain about people with alternate beliefs not wanting them.
I'm still confused as to how Jewishness works. It's both a religion and an ethnicity?
it’s an ethnicized religion. ethnicity and race are nebulous social constructs, religion is ironically more concrete. anti-Semites hate Jewish people in a racist manner, not out of disagreement over religious views.
another good example is how Islamophobia is also a form of racist bigotry because it’s really anti-Arab sentiment. Islamophobic people will target Sikhs just for having darker skin and wearing a turban, despite turbans not even being really related to Islam
another good way to explain this is how Nazis don’t consider Jewish people to be white. it isn’t based on anything real, it’s just a way to find “acceptable” targets for subjugation and extermination
what northernlion clip?
11:40
No Zionists could also no evangelicals?
That is much better.
Like Jimmy Dore?
😂😂😂😂 Hinge Profile.
Oh, NOW I see what this is! YOU edit a buncha the shit Hasan says, lol! I thought this WAS his channel! I sub to it, but haven't bothered with it for a while. Anyhow, very cool, and subbing now to YOURS here as well!
29:58
GABE!
These people complaining about 1 tinder like a day. More like one in a month. And it's cam girl lol
i gave up on online dating.... that shit is for the birds
Brooklyn Wept Hasan..
Nl was tge gaot rip
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People like Second Thought are the ones to watch out for. If you grow up learning absolutism as a the valid way to see the world, whether it's left or right, you will never have the necessary amount of support and ability to enact change.
You essentially sound like the religious right calling you fallen sinners and that you need to repent; lest you face divine punishment. In Second Thought's heaven, it's the state that will cast you into the lake of fire.
That's why JT's use of patronizing and dehumanizing language towards those that just live their lives in the system will lead to his irrelevance. People do not like to be chastised or preached to if they are struggling much more than he is.
Second Thought is referring to people who pretend to have leftist views but will be vocal against any radical actions to push for change, essentially they want to be perceived as progressives while they put all of their efforts into maintaining the status quo, progressives in principal, conservatives in practice.
disagree conservatives often believe their nonsense so they have hope for change for the better liberals know what they are doing is wrong and choose to do it anyway.
30:54 This incident is right after oct 7. When students literally cheered for Acts of h@m@s. It’s natural to feel intimidated by that.
I wonder how intimidated Palestinians felt before Oct. 7.
@@wesleystreet So it’s okay to celebrate t*rror attacks on civilians ?! I was just giving a context that the video didn’t mention.
@@zorba9660yes concern troll. Happy now
@@zorba9660 what’s it like being terminally stupid?
@@zorba9660 americkans celebrate israeli oppression and support it
20:08 listen i dont give a shit about “the squad” or electoral politics in general really but this previous point felt a bit dishonest. he showed articles about AOC and the squad while referring to “more liberal democrats” and then said that every democratic senator voted for the aid package. The squad isn’t in the Senate. Maybe they also voted for the package. I wouldn’t be surprised tbh. I just think stuff like this is lazy bc it _looks_ dishonest. Maybe most people don’t watch this kind of thing that closely but Ive noticed a few things like this. Even the opening lines. If i was a reddit style liberal I would feel like he’s trying to talk to me like I’m a baby. Even though I agree that liberals honestly do think to some degree that MLK just gave a speech so good he ended Jim Crow, it still sounds like a straw man. It’s like condescending and theres really no effort on his part to justify it. idk why I’m writing this I guess bad rhetoric bothers me.
Is anything he said incorrect? AOC and the squad are just liberal Democrats
Hasan unironically agreeing this much with tankies not even hiding it anymore.
Tankie is a word as meaningless as your life.
Famous tankies : MLK and Malcolm X
@@tbohn10 reported
wow it took turtle chad a whole hour and a half from the time this video was posted until he got his obligatory comment up. dude is slipping :/
@@TurtleChad1 ❄️
Rich coming from a tankie himbo.
What's a tankie?
@@wesleystreet Anyone to the left of Joe Biden basically
@@wesleystreetIt was originally a pejorative for Marxist-Leninists but now it's an insult to anyone left of liberal
@@wesleystreetThe authoritarian side of the left, as opposed to the libertarian socialists and anarchists.
@@ausername8699
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Cry harder
Absolute fool
If you think white moderates= American liberals then you are missing some points
Who does it mean please do tell us more Mr enlightened
As a conservative, I love watching these vids. It gives me solace to know that the left is much more divided and ideologically scatterbrained than the right is. People like Second Thought are a great gift to our movement. 🙂
I love how you think you’re being clever or snarky but you’re just exposing your extremely limited knowledge on politics and lack of intellect 🤡..the “right” can’t even figure out if they hate Jews and their space lasers or if they want to send all our money to Israel 🤦🏽♂️
Libs are where it is at right now. Libs get it.
MLK loved white moderates.
@@wesleystreet MLK was actually smart about politics, he did not lose his mind every time a politician or even political party did something he disagreed with. He did not believe in Kamikaze politics or personality cult politics. MLK did not view politicians as people we had to like or agree with 100%. He viewed politicians and political parties as tools. Not a collection of personalities. Based on this, there is NO doubt, MLK would have been with Biden.
@@wesleystreet Black people play a far more prominent role in the Biden administration than in the GQP. Biden has appointed a lot of Black people to the federal bench, whereas the GQP is almost 100% white male. But Biden does not pass the purity test for privileged, white "leftists" so it must be full blown trumpian fascism in America to "teach them a lesson".
@@joshallen5225LOL .
wild.
36:38 anyone know if Amy swings both ways?
Yankees in general, not just liberals
excuse you
Sadly , you might have a point .
This distinction is way more nuanced in Europe , the French people experienced it first hand with Macron's policy .
The bourgeois aspect of Liberalism cannot be understated .
This is why I wish the baseball shooter succeeded
Saturday morning. Let's go!! This is crazy!