I’ve never noticed any anti performer. He does cheese later which is a 9 minute jam session and every section gets their spot on top He’s a true musician
@@ebmusicman84 Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the word, but it can have the most powerful hit when used judiciously , and this was one of those times it punched the meaning home perfectly.
Of all Minchin’s stuff, at least of the pieces I’ve heard, this is the one that most strikes me as being most similar to Tom Lehrer’s work. A bit harsher or more direct perhaps-of course it’s the second decade of the 21st century rather than the 1950s or 60s-but still, to my ear at least, very reminiscent of (The Great) Tom Lehrer.
Poisoning Pigeons in the Park is a perfect Lehrer example when it comes to this song. The structure is so similar, and the extreme levels of wit too. Both songs do a massive 180 turn when the chorus starts. Lehrer loves spring, but fk pigeons let’s kill them with cyanide. Minchin finally accepts God lol joke cos logic and also fk God he’s a c-word.
It’s sad that they made him censor the song. When he drops the c-bomb in the original, it illustrates his utter contempt towards God even if he did exist. Tim is an atheist. But even if God actually existed, he deserves cynicism. It’s like he gets off on human suffering.
I get your point, but it shows a utter ignorance towards judeo-christian theology. It's pretty clear at the very beginning of the story that suffering was/is our fault. (am talking about theology, don't "what-about" me)
@@gabrielalfaia8154 If your post was to my statement. I just took the forced removal of the C word; and thought what could be another reason for the word change? The statement he did kill jesus- at least that’s what I got when he played that tambourine like only TIM could as Jesus was on the cross ? I coulda got it wrong. I was told when the chandelier falls during phantom of the opera and still fell for it. I hope you can have a laugh You know be PRO stuff not just ANTI stuff
@@gabrielalfaia8154 no it doesn't. An omniscient creator would have known his created humans would be susceptible to temptation but still put the temptation in front of them, which would set a course of damnation and suffering for the whole human race for its entire existence, requiring blood atonement to rectify. What an a**hole.
The scale of the song's presentation is a big part of what makes this song so brilliant. Sorry that Tim had to censor "c*nt" in the original lyric for "creep" -- the shock value was perfectly acceptable as an expression of his comic rage. Plus, it doesn't rhyme with "stunt"! An unfortunate compromise -- especially in Australia where (from my understanding) the word is not as blunt as it is elsewhere.
I think this change was made recently. I swear it used to be the c word even recently. I come back to this video every once in a while and it was jarring and unfamiliar.
I'm in two minds, I found the foil of Tim saying "creep" instead at least as funny as - if not maybe even slightly funnier than - what I will describe as 'the original lyric'.🤔
@@Half_Finis Then they aren't doing it very good. According to the bible any time 2 or more ask for something in prayer it will be done. So either nobody has ever got together and prayed for world peace properly, or the bible lies. Personally I think they just got their magic spell wrong.
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When this song first came out I was in final year A-level Philosophy and generally had been scoring C-D in my mock essays and coursework. I used this song as a source in my actual exam and wrote out in full the last couple verses and then related it back to the question on St Thomas Aquinas and Augustine. I quoted Christopher Hitchens, I was like a proper 17 year old edge lord. Still, I got a high B in the exam which got me to pass the entire course
@@thehillshavepiestoot are you saying that Appolorion's apparent attempt at a joke makes him look idiotic or that I am an idiot for not recognising his 'joke'? Because if the latter is the case, I suggest you go and check with your sense of humour.
Creep doesn’t rhyme with stunt Tim? That’s where the line was that day and he respected it. I think often people think he’s offensive for the sake of it and he’s absolutely not.
It's insane how much all these pretty impeccable professionals in the background add to that and they still kinda vanish. Are the strings a bit very quiet or is it just me?
that’s the beauty of the composition my dude, the way it builds from the stand up will all be notated musically to add to the crescendo. it’s not something we are so used to in western ‘pop’ music, but fits within the ‘musical’ category no doubt for the biting wit and satirisation of the form reflecting the incredulity of the argument.
I had just finished a wonderful school play and felt so bad I couldn't call my dead parents and tell them about it. Next day going back to clean up I ran into an old friend who looked at me in astonishment, stated she'd dreamt of me last night, having dinner with my parents who were telling her how proud they were of me. She never met them and I hadn't seen her in five years. Tell me nothing's going on here beside the obvious.
He seemed really nervous and didn't perform like he usually does. In another version he smiles and articulates more, while in this one he stutters and makes mistakes, and leaves out certain notes. He is not as enthusiastic in this one either
I find him hilarious usually, but this, though he makes a good point about the trivial things people in 1st world countries expect God to be intimately fascinated with, it's still... a bit harsh. Well, this is art and it makes a good point.
At the end of the day, however, I would venture to bet that Sam goes through life generally happier/more resilient/less resentful than someone as insanely cynical as Tim.
I want to add that I'm not particularly religious and blind faith is something I'm definitely jealous of... That felling of everything will be okay regardless of hard times and that there is a light at the end. Absolutely envious of that.
@@memphetic used to feel the same way. in a lot of cases it's for show though... know a lot of deeply unhappy people of faith. some religions do a real number on people. mine was toxic and I couldn't begin working on myself until I got out. was super cynical at first and these snarky comedians helped me through that phase. Now am MORE resilient, compassionate, grateful and optimistic than I ever was in the church. and if Sam is legit happy, resilient etc, there are secular ways to nurture those traits and see that the "light" is here and now
@@shelbyvillerules9962 Most famous atheists (including Dawkins, who people seem to really take issue with) self-describe as agnostic purely in the technical sense. If presented with overwhelming evidence they would update their beliefs. This is just them conceding that any scientifically-minded person must be open to new evidence. But exceptional claims such as those pertaining to the existence of deities require exceptional evidence. That's the whole point of the song! Some people choose to simply use the word atheist to draw a line between themselves and the wishy-washy agnostic: "I don't believe in god per-se but I believe in something greater". I wouldn't dare to speak for Tim, but I'd imagine he's practically what I'd consider an atheist/staunch agnostic.
Not here to champion any religion or version of the divine, I just want to say this guy looks like a came-to-life Chucky Doll... And he's singing "dumb people will think I seem really smart" songs that would make R. Dawkins blush. Interesting national treasure you have there, Britain.
But.. he is really smart? Listen to the lyricism, or watch his Dark Side performance to see his incredible talent on a piano. What would you even want changed? Maybe his non-conventional stage look (which is arguably less ridiculous than metallica's face paint) works to weed out small-minded people. Food for thought.
Yeah, strikes me too. That some apostles tried to convince us about some god that we know better of. if u cant see the logical fallacy its another lost case.
I did not find this guy funny. Maybe it was just the way he looked. Grunge, Goth???? I thought it was sad when he said he did not believe in God, because "no one had offered him enough evidence to belay his doubts.” I have encountered people who said this to me before. That’s a cop out for not taking the initiative to search for one’s self. My question for this guy is, “How can a person expect to find something, if s/he is not looking for it?" I also thought it was sad that this guy thinks it is funny to make fun of, devalue and belittle people, especially a friend, who have taken the initiative to examine the evidence and who then do believe. Notice the faces of the professional musicians in the orchestra. I thought it was interesting to see they were not laughing at this guy either. In fact, some of them looked uncomfortable with what he was saying. Just not my style of humor.
More than half the world's population do not believe Jesus performed any miracles, including rising from the dead, because no one has offered any evidence.
"“How can a person expect to find something, if s/he is not looking for it?" - Is this a genuine question? Or is it merely a paraphrase of, "How can you convince yourself of something if you're not leading the evidence while simultaneously discarding evidence in the contrary?" People of all religious flavours use this same methodology to arrive at the conclusion that the particular god they've been indoctrinated to believe is the "true" god, while all others are false. So if you've "found god," then ask yourself why didn't you find the god that you *weren't* raised to believe?
" The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and vile in their ways; there is no one who does good.- Psalm 53:1 , In his pride the wicked man does not seek Him; in all his schemes there is no God. - Psalm 10:4
@@lucilaria The Bible is true - it is proven historically and written by men’s inspired by the Holy Spirit, and it is the only book that exposes the motive of the human heart.
@@mayaoktavia5709 lmao that's rich, historically accurate you say? Pray tell, when did Noah save all the itsy bitsy animals with that big old arc of his? Historically speaking I mean.
Half of what he said isn't how he works and a lot of christians have a poor understanding of God. In a nutshell: Science and religion go hand in hand, if it doesn't "obey" the strict rules of science, it's not going to happen, prayer can help in some ways, it can be healthy to talk about things to anything, with that many people asking to heal and believing, there's nothing to say that the eye didn't heal via a miracle, which is collective belief in something this is a thing that does happen. God is in another dimension, yes he is powerful, but this dimension even demons can hardly do anything, heck you can see how the world is going, Satan doesn't have to do a thing. God cannot interfere with the sick, if that is your path, God cannot interfere with the starving in Africa because that's a man made problem, he's not here to serve us, if your son was in trouble you would help him how you can, but you wouldn't bail them out, interfering with this is voiding the laws of science that are in place to keep things structured. Here's a poor example: Think of it as like you're doing math, and you cheat and look up the answer but don't show any working , and that answer needed the calculations shown in order to operate, that's you interfering with something and it breaks. God is loving yes, but he is also wrathful, and if someone makes a choice to not feed a country then that's on them, God has nothing to do with saving all of them. Can you imagine if he did? and miracles were the norm? We'd be relying on him for -everything- and then people would be complaining about why is God interfering, I want to do it this way! Hope that answers some questions, I won't pretend to know everything here, this is just from my personal journey of trying to find answers.
@@ebmusicman84 Evil is something we made to interpret right from wrong. In china you can get dog meat on the street, that in itself isn't inherently bad or good, despite it being a dog. It's that type of thinking you must wrap your head around, that's how you become enlightened, there's might be poor reception to God in this day and age, doesn't mean you should dismiss the idea of him not existing.
I love the fact that Sam pissed Tim off SO much he went home and wrote a full orchestration piece in order to flame him!
A SAMBA no less 😂😂
The orchestration came later. Plus there is no way to be sure the story is true.
That's not samba. @@crazyratlady3026
I love how you can tell who in the orchestra hates the fact they have to play this and who's just LOVING it and trying not to laugh the whole time
I’ve never noticed any anti performer. He does cheese later which is a 9 minute jam session and every section gets their spot on top
He’s a true musician
"focus on the the bills focus on the bills"...
To bad Tim uses his talents to mock the One who granted them to him.
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You mean TONY?
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@@harrylime9611 never heard him mention evolution in that at all ?, he was just mocking a fictional character the whole song
Rhyming "stunt" with "creep" was a nice touch lol
The original was actually c*nt but they censored it
Bit of a shame tbh, wonder why he changed it
@@ebmusicman84 Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of the word, but it can have the most powerful hit when used judiciously , and this was one of those times it punched the meaning home perfectly.
:) Especially while including "fuck" in the song.
some say it was supposed to be cunt, but he has to censor it
Don't worry
I'm going to get my church congregation to say a group prayer on Sam's behalf to heal him of his burns
Awesome! The fact that it will do absolutely NOTHING to help Sam is a perfect result.
Brilliantly exposes the lunacy of divine intervention.
Tim Minchin is utterly fantastic. There's no way to express how good Tim is at being funny and musical and he's a hardliner atheist to boot!
God-given talents I guess. Kidding. If he was born with no hands and tongue it would be God-given also. Lucky c*nt.
Oh fuck. It’s Bo’s angrier older brother!
Correction; it’s the man that made Bo’s career viable to begin with
Tim is on his own level - Truly brilliant!
Of all Minchin’s stuff, at least of the pieces I’ve heard, this is the one that most strikes me as being most similar to Tom Lehrer’s work. A bit harsher or more direct perhaps-of course it’s the second decade of the 21st century rather than the 1950s or 60s-but still, to my ear at least, very reminiscent of (The Great) Tom Lehrer.
It does have a similar vibe.
Like some of the stretched rhymes
And obscure synonyms.
Poisoning Pigeons in the Park is a perfect Lehrer example when it comes to this song. The structure is so similar, and the extreme levels of wit too. Both songs do a massive 180 turn when the chorus starts. Lehrer loves spring, but fk pigeons let’s kill them with cyanide. Minchin finally accepts God lol joke cos logic and also fk God he’s a c-word.
Your right. Though no one will ever write a song that gives me more joy than Poisoning Pigeons in the Park
@@chrisb.7787 YES! And his Irish Ballad!
True. "Some People Have It Worse Than I" also gives me Lehrer vibes.
It’s sad that they made him censor the song. When he drops the c-bomb in the original, it illustrates his utter contempt towards God even if he did exist. Tim is an atheist. But even if God actually existed, he deserves cynicism. It’s like he gets off on human suffering.
He killed Jesus.
I get your point, but it shows a utter ignorance towards judeo-christian theology. It's pretty clear at the very beginning of the story that suffering was/is our fault. (am talking about theology, don't "what-about" me)
@@gabrielalfaia8154
If your post was to my statement. I just took the forced removal of the C word; and thought what could be another reason for the word change?
The statement he did kill jesus- at least that’s what I got when he played that tambourine like only TIM could as Jesus was on the cross ?
I coulda got it wrong. I was told when the chandelier falls during phantom of the opera and still fell for it.
I hope you can have a laugh
You know be PRO stuff not just ANTI stuff
@@gabrielalfaia8154 no it doesn't. An omniscient creator would have known his created humans would be susceptible to temptation but still put the temptation in front of them, which would set a course of damnation and suffering for the whole human race for its entire existence, requiring blood atonement to rectify. What an a**hole.
He is mocking God. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and vile in their ways; there is no one who does good.
The beauty of this soaring song makes me cry with delight every time I hear it.
The scale of the song's presentation is a big part of what makes this song so brilliant. Sorry that Tim had to censor "c*nt" in the original lyric for "creep" -- the shock value was perfectly acceptable as an expression of his comic rage. Plus, it doesn't rhyme with "stunt"! An unfortunate compromise -- especially in Australia where (from my understanding) the word is not as blunt as it is elsewhere.
Yea here we use it like the word “friend” ahaha
He should have rhymed creep with streak
I think this change was made recently. I swear it used to be the c word even recently. I come back to this video every once in a while and it was jarring and unfamiliar.
i honestly really thought it was gonna be c*nt and was real surprised when it said creep, it would've rhymed so well
I'm in two minds, I found the foil of Tim saying "creep" instead at least as funny as - if not maybe even slightly funnier than - what I will describe as 'the original lyric'.🤔
So have these powerful prayer folks ever thought of, maybe, praying for world peace and world prosperity? Apparently not.
That's most of what they do :)
@@Half_Finis As the bumper sticker says, nothing fails like prayer.
@@Half_Finis Then they aren't doing it very good. According to the bible any time 2 or more ask for something in prayer it will be done. So either nobody has ever got together and prayed for world peace properly, or the bible lies.
Personally I think they just got their magic spell wrong.
@@Rei-Rei Bad password, maybe one bible page went missing.
@Seanus Patricus Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by sarcasm.
Man is a bloody genius.
Only a few people are smart enough to know the genius of this comment, I'm glad my son explained it to me 😂.
Sarcasm level: 1,000
Over 9000 😃
Hard to remember the lyrics and sing this... playing the piano at the same time is particularly impressive
wait so "fuck" is ok on whatever channel this is on, but "cunt" is a no-no?
More likely nixed by the physical venue where this was performed, perhaps.
He says it in the recording at the Royal Albert Hall...
The BBC
...then again with them you can't always say cvnt
...and they employed an undeniable pedophile for two decades.
@@DavidSmith-vr1nbNow you've got me wondering whether his was the first ever use of that word as part of a performance at the RAH ...
Oh, man, they bowdlerized the best line in the song! Boo, censorship!!!
It was a cunning stunt.
@@TheDizzleHawke LOL!!!!
Chris Kirshbaum there’s an uncensored version on CZcams. It’s actually the version I first saw. I’m new to this particular performance.
there's an uncensored version: czcams.com/video/IZeWPScnolo/video.html
It's so good it made me clap! I do not generally get so enthused about comedy. This would be great with a huge dance number.
well that was quite a mouthful! luv it!
2:45 He made the whole audience taste the high dose of sarcasm in time.
Absolutely brilliant
Omnipotent opthalmologist lives in me brain , rent free, for over 10 years now.
Full show on Netflix (canada)
Awesome stuff.
Tho funny, I like him better stripped down to just him and piano like in "So f. Rock"...
Wow, just wow
Great song!
Never get sick of this one 😂😂
Breathtaking genius.
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When this song first came out I was in final year A-level Philosophy and generally had been scoring C-D in my mock essays and coursework.
I used this song as a source in my actual exam and wrote out in full the last couple verses and then related it back to the question on St Thomas Aquinas and Augustine. I quoted Christopher Hitchens, I was like a proper 17 year old edge lord.
Still, I got a high B in the exam which got me to pass the entire course
Reading this back I'm surprised I didn't turn up to the exam in a fedora and refer to the exam invigilator as "m'lady"
Would love to read that
Thank you Matt
Outstanding
But Stunt doesn’t rhyme with Creep?
This song is also sung with *unt instead of *reep. E.g. check this from Tim Minchin's own channel: czcams.com/video/IZeWPScnolo/video.html
@@Apollorion I think that was the joke.
@@GoogleUser-dwcy I think he made a joke about the joke....... idiot
@@thehillshavepiestoot are you saying that Appolorion's apparent attempt at a joke makes him look idiotic or that I am an idiot for not recognising his 'joke'? Because if the latter is the case, I suggest you go and check with your sense of humour.
@@GoogleUser-dwcy my mistake not aimed at you good sir! It was aimed at apollo
beautiful
😂❤genius amazing.
Do you have ‘Not Perfect’ - I’d be overjoyed if so. Many thanks.
Creep doesn’t rhyme with stunt Tim? That’s where the line was that day and he respected it. I think often people think he’s offensive for the sake of it and he’s absolutely not.
@2:52
I am pretty sure I spotted Sam in the audience - 8:24, purple shirt
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It's insane how much all these pretty impeccable professionals in the background add to that and they still kinda vanish. Are the strings a bit very quiet or is it just me?
that’s the beauty of the composition my dude, the way it builds from the stand up will all be notated musically to add to the crescendo. it’s not something we are so used to in western ‘pop’ music, but fits within the ‘musical’ category no doubt for the biting wit and satirisation of the form reflecting the incredulity of the argument.
Only just realised he substituted "creep" here :)
He’s seriously channeling Victoria Wood and Richard Stilgoe here !
Genius
Brilliant :D
I ❤ Tim, sometimes he reminds me of Gilbert o Sullivan?
I had just finished a wonderful school play and felt so bad I couldn't call my dead parents and tell them about it. Next day going back to clean up I ran into an old friend who looked at me in astonishment, stated she'd dreamt of me last night, having dinner with my parents who were telling her how proud they were of me. She never met them and I hadn't seen her in five years. Tell me nothing's going on here beside the obvious.
Okay. Nothing's going on here beside the obvious.
I’m not gonna lie, cataract surgery is expensive as shit when you are a cash pay customer.
Just saying.
I wonder how many Christians have heard this and then converted to atheism.
I would think precisely none. I s'pose atheism is it's own religion isn't it. Quite trendy for a while.
Actually there's a negative effect of intercessory prayer. Sam's mum was lucky they prayed to the "right" god of the many tens of thousands available.
Is it me or is the timing slightly out?? I’ve seen other versions of this ‘tune’ and something seems off. Can’t put my finger on it tho
He seemed really nervous and didn't perform like he usually does. In another version he smiles and articulates more, while in this one he stutters and makes mistakes, and leaves out certain notes. He is not as enthusiastic in this one either
You can see the Christian women in the orchestra who are ignorant of the facts he's laying down.
Creep?
Sure - I mean, can you think of any other words that start with C and rhyme with stunt?
uncensored version here if you like: czcams.com/video/IZeWPScnolo/video.html
I find him hilarious usually, but this, though he makes a good point about the trivial things people in 1st world countries expect God to be intimately fascinated with, it's still... a bit harsh.
Well, this is art and it makes a good point.
Fundamentalists that want to control the world with the made up words of their spooky incompetent sky daddy deserve our derision.
Why did they edit the video
2:53
Yeah when was this recorded
About 2011 I think www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/tim-minchin-v-the-sydney-symphony-20110329-1cemi.html
Runt? Is God short?
When was this
thats what im asking, like when was this
Early 2010s I think. That or late 2000s
Cretin? Censored.
Oh dear "creep" doesn't rhyme with "stunt"! Tim's lost it...
So silly he used 'creep' rather than what he usually says in this part of the act
It was televised live in prime-time. So it was either "creep" or a "bleep".
How come atheists only focus on Christian faith. Makes songs about Cardinal Pell etc. Nothing about any other religion though.
Not fair.
#ThatsMyBroderick
Most xtians wouldn't get it.
The original is much better
I haven't heard the original, but it makes sense. I always preferred Tom Lehrer's piano solos over his orchestrated versions.
This could be both shocking, fun and provocative in the 60's.. but not now. Good try then.
Sounds a lot like Paul back before he got "on the road"
T 5n
😂😂😂😂
Not this old chestnut-- confusing God with the biblog
Creep?????
At the end of the day, however, I would venture to bet that Sam goes through life generally happier/more resilient/less resentful than someone as insanely cynical as Tim.
of course, that happens when you teach people not to question their believes.
I want to add that I'm not particularly religious and blind faith is something I'm definitely jealous of... That felling of everything will be okay regardless of hard times and that there is a light at the end.
Absolutely envious of that.
@@memphetic used to feel the same way. in a lot of cases it's for show though... know a lot of deeply unhappy people of faith. some religions do a real number on people. mine was toxic and I couldn't begin working on myself until I got out. was super cynical at first and these snarky comedians helped me through that phase. Now am MORE resilient, compassionate, grateful and optimistic than I ever was in the church. and if Sam is legit happy, resilient etc, there are secular ways to nurture those traits and see that the "light" is here and now
I dunno. I watched czcams.com/video/VCYzau2xato/video.html and Tim seems to be able to do pretty real joy too.
It's a fact that more intelligent people are statistically less happy than unintelligent people.
Heidenspaß
(Die glauben aber auch an göttliche Intervention?)
Oh, so Tim’s an atheist then, huh. Regardless, I did really enjoy his song to cardinal pell!
He's not an Atheist, he just doesn't believe in a God.
Riiiiighttt
@@doyjuhl3421 that’s like his whole thing😂
@@shelbyvillerules9962 Most famous atheists (including Dawkins, who people seem to really take issue with) self-describe as agnostic purely in the technical sense. If presented with overwhelming evidence they would update their beliefs. This is just them conceding that any scientifically-minded person must be open to new evidence. But exceptional claims such as those pertaining to the existence of deities require exceptional evidence. That's the whole point of the song! Some people choose to simply use the word atheist to draw a line between themselves and the wishy-washy agnostic: "I don't believe in god per-se but I believe in something greater". I wouldn't dare to speak for Tim, but I'd imagine he's practically what I'd consider an atheist/staunch agnostic.
Why doesn't Tim Minchin do ridiculing religion anymore? I enjoyed him taking the piss.
so quiet
You’ll see….soon. No pun intended.
Not here to champion any religion or version of the divine, I just want to say this guy looks like a came-to-life Chucky Doll... And he's singing "dumb people will think I seem really smart" songs that would make R. Dawkins blush. Interesting national treasure you have there, Britain.
Tim is Australian (and a brilliant genius) I wish we could claim him as one of ours (in the UK where I am)
But.. he is really smart? Listen to the lyricism, or watch his Dark Side performance to see his incredible talent on a piano. What would you even want changed? Maybe his non-conventional stage look (which is arguably less ridiculous than metallica's face paint) works to weed out small-minded people. Food for thought.
He's an Aussie, but we'll have him any day of the week. Proudly.
He's Australian you drongo
Anyone who believes they can at any level weed into the concept of God and dismantle it strikes me as irreconcilably arrogant
Dunno, Tim did it pretty well. There is no god, but if he does exist he's pure evil and can fuck off.
Yeah, strikes me too. That some apostles tried to convince us about some god that we know better of.
if u cant see the logical fallacy its another lost case.
I did not find this guy funny. Maybe it was just the way he looked. Grunge, Goth???? I thought it was sad when he said he did not believe in God, because "no one had offered him enough evidence to belay his doubts.” I have encountered people who said this to me before. That’s a cop out for not taking the initiative to search for one’s self. My question for this guy is, “How can a person expect to find something, if s/he is not looking for it?" I also thought it was sad that this guy thinks it is funny to make fun of, devalue and belittle people, especially a friend, who have taken the initiative to examine the evidence and who then do believe. Notice the faces of the professional musicians in the orchestra. I thought it was interesting to see they were not laughing at this guy either. In fact, some of them looked uncomfortable with what he was saying. Just not my style of humor.
More than half the world's population do not believe Jesus performed any miracles, including rising from the dead, because no one has offered any evidence.
@@traffic-law Are you searching for evidence? If so, where?
"“How can a person expect to find something, if s/he is not looking for it?"
- Is this a genuine question? Or is it merely a paraphrase of, "How can you convince yourself of something if you're not leading the evidence while simultaneously discarding evidence in the contrary?" People of all religious flavours use this same methodology to arrive at the conclusion that the particular god they've been indoctrinated to believe is the "true" god, while all others are false. So if you've "found god," then ask yourself why didn't you find the god that you *weren't* raised to believe?
" The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and vile in their ways; there is no one who does good.- Psalm 53:1 ,
In his pride the wicked man does not seek Him; in all his schemes there is no God. - Psalm 10:4
There is no god. And if there was he is pure evil and I want nothing to do with him.
U know quoting the bible is irrelevent in this context, because the evidence for the truth of the bible is the contentious argument.
Just a heads up
@@lucilaria The Bible is true - it is proven historically and written by men’s inspired by the Holy Spirit, and it is the only book that exposes the motive of the human heart.
@@lucilaria Preach dude. I feel like Bible Thumpers should just learn to take the piss sometimes.
@@mayaoktavia5709 lmao that's rich, historically accurate you say? Pray tell, when did Noah save all the itsy bitsy animals with that big old arc of his? Historically speaking I mean.
Half of what he said isn't how he works and a lot of christians have a poor understanding of God.
In a nutshell:
Science and religion go hand in hand, if it doesn't "obey" the strict rules of science, it's not going to happen, prayer can help in some ways, it can be healthy to talk about things to anything, with that many people asking to heal and believing, there's nothing to say that the eye didn't heal via a miracle, which is collective belief in something this is a thing that does happen.
God is in another dimension, yes he is powerful, but this dimension even demons can hardly do anything, heck you can see how the world is going, Satan doesn't have to do a thing.
God cannot interfere with the sick, if that is your path, God cannot interfere with the starving in Africa because that's a man made problem, he's not here to serve us, if your son was in trouble you would help him how you can, but you wouldn't bail them out, interfering with this is voiding the laws of science that are in place to keep things structured.
Here's a poor example: Think of it as like you're doing math, and you cheat and look up the answer but don't show any working , and that answer needed the calculations shown in order to operate, that's you interfering with something and it breaks.
God is loving yes, but he is also wrathful, and if someone makes a choice to not feed a country then that's on them, God has nothing to do with saving all of them.
Can you imagine if he did? and miracles were the norm? We'd be relying on him for -everything- and then people would be complaining about why is God interfering, I want to do it this way!
Hope that answers some questions, I won't pretend to know everything here, this is just from my personal journey of trying to find answers.
Seems more sensical that there just is no god. But if there is he's pure evil, and i want nothing to do with him.
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Evil is something we made to interpret right from wrong.
In china you can get dog meat on the street, that in itself isn't inherently bad or good, despite it being a dog.
It's that type of thinking you must wrap your head around, that's how you become enlightened, there's might be poor reception to God in this day and age, doesn't mean you should dismiss the idea of him not existing.
Dude just made his own theology to justify flimsy beliefs hahaha
@@lostvarius Kind of like atheism.
@@mwadewda7974 atheism doesn’t have a theology