Quran Contradictions Debunked EP 5: No One Bears Your Sins? Or Some Will Bear Your Sins?

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • In this video I debunk God Logic's video on his claim there is a contradiction in the Quran about who bears whose sins.

Komentáře • 38

  • @PeaceJusticeCompassion

    Mashallah great explanation

  • @EPHRAIMMUTHIMBWA
    @EPHRAIMMUTHIMBWA Před měsícem +4

    Brother plz dont ever delete your videos there of great help especially the video you did on the semen comes from the backbone one

  • @sba374
    @sba374 Před měsícem +3

    Amazing work 😊

  • @dragonfly5334
    @dragonfly5334 Před měsícem +2

    Good job showing what the verses are really saying, thanks for sharing this :D

  • @hexerous
    @hexerous Před měsícem

    Barakallh feekum

  • @khayalie_pulao
    @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

    Not sure why my comments is not appearing. Probably some issue with Yt auto filtering.
    @PureQuranGuidance
    *[17: 15] Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another*
    *[6: 164] And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another.*
    *[16: 25] That they may carry their own burdens in full on the day of resurrection and of the burdens of those they misled.*
    Notice that in verses 17: 15 and 6: 164 it is mentioned that whatever one earns is for them only (whether its good or bad).
    This clearly contradicts 16: 25, according to which some of the burden of those who were misguided will be borne by both the miguider and the misguided.
    Which means that what the misguided earns will not only be for his own soul but will also be for the soul of the Misguider.
    So there is still a contradiction in Quran.

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem

      You are reading the verses to try and create a contradiction.
      16:25 and 29:13 Allah tells us what a soul earns:
      [16: 25] That they may carry their own burdens in full on the day of resurrection and of the burdens of those they misled.
      [29:13] But surely they will carry their weight and weight with their weight.
      According to Allah this what a soul earns ^ And it is only against itself (17:15,6:164)= no other soul can come and take it on the day of judgement.
      There is no contradiction.

    • @khayalie_pulao
      @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

      @@PureQuranGuidance So you agree that that in verse 17: 15 and 6: 164 Allah says that what one earns is *ONLY* for himself (whether good or bad).
      But according to 16: 25 what a misguided person earns is not only for himself but is also for the misguider. Clear contradiction.
      This is also clear injustice.

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem

      That’s not what I said. Go back and read again.

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem

      No that’s not what I said. Go back and read

    • @khayalie_pulao
      @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

      @@PureQuranGuidance [6: 164] And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself.
      Which means that what one earns is ONLY AND ONLY for himself and noone else. This excludes both possibilities of another person bearing the burden of the one who earns it:
      1. In which original soul's burden is reduced as result of sharing
      2. In which original soul's burden remains same but another person also bears the same burden.
      But 16: 25 says another person will also bear the burden of the misguided which means that what misguided earns will also be against the misguider in addition to the misguided.
      Note that I am not disagreeing with you on your point that the burden of the misguided will not be reduced. In fact I am agreeing that this is what Quran means but even that contradicts with 6: 164 and 17: 15.

  • @khayalie_pulao
    @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

    A simple question: is the additional burden their own or someone else's?

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem

      29:13 But surely they will carry their weight and weight with their weight.
      16:25 That they may carry their own burdens in full on the day of resurrection and of the burdens of those they misled.
      The additional burden they need to carry is of those they misled. But is now their total burdens they need to carry on the day of judgement.
      The verses however makes it clear it doesn't take away from those they misled (reducing the load for them, then that would contradict 35:18) and is only additional weight they need to carry (weight with their weight).
      This makes up their total burden to carry.
      35:18 And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And if a heavily laden soul calls [another] to [carry some of] its load, nothing of it will be carried, even if he should be a close relative...
      And no bearer of burden helps another with their burdens on the day of judgement. Everyone carries their own total weight/burdens
      .

    • @khayalie_pulao
      @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

      ​@@PureQuranGuidance *[**17:15**] Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another*
      *[6:164] And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another.*
      *[**16:25**] That they may carry their own burdens in full on the day of resurrection and of the burdens of those they misled.*
      Notice that in verses 17:15 and 6:164 it is mentioned that whatever one earns is for them only (whether its good or bad).
      This clearly contradicts 16:25, according to which some of the burden of those who were misguided will be borne by both the miguider and the misguided.
      Which means that what the misguided earns will not only be for his own soul but will also be for the soul of the Misguider.
      So there is still a contradiction in Quran.

    • @khayalie_pulao
      @khayalie_pulao Před měsícem

      @@PureQuranGuidance
      *[**17:15**] Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another*
      *[6:164] And every soul earns not [blame] except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another.*
      *[**16:25**] That they may carry their own burdens in full on the day of resurrection and of the burdens of those they misled.*
      Notice that in verses 17:15 and 6:164 it is mentioned that whatever one earns is for them only (whether its good or bad).
      This clearly contradicts 16:25, according to which some of the burden of those who were misguided will be borne by both the miguider and the misguided.
      Which means that what the misguided earns will not only be for his own soul but will also be for the soul of the Misguider.
      So there is still a contradiction in Quran.

  • @faswfesafdfdas970
    @faswfesafdfdas970 Před měsícem

    Can you make a video on the verse that talks about the jews calling Ezra son of God (when no jew ever said so, without using sunni sources)? Also, I'm loving your videos! 💪

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem +2

      There is no need to make a video on this topic. This is not a contradiction with the Quran's narrative. This is a contradiction with mainstream history. The Quran claims the Jews at Muhammed's time and before said that Ezra is the son of God. What the Jews believe today does not mean they believed the same thing in the past. How can anyone know for sure? (besides God) And today people only claim they never said it or believed it in the past. And assert also the bible they have today is what they had back then.
      And that the Quran confirms it. When it does not. I will make a video on this though. "does the Quran tell us it confirms the old testament and the gospels"

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem +1

      So this would come under reason 1 for rejection:
      1. People will use a falsehood to say the Quran is wrong.
      18:56 And We send not the messengers except as bringers of good tidings and warners.
      And those who disbelieve dispute by [using] falsehood to [attempt to] invalidate thereby the truth and have taken My verses, and that of which they are warned, in ridicule.
      Quran asserts that's what they said at Muhamed's time. Today people say they never said it without proof.

    • @faswfesafdfdas970
      @faswfesafdfdas970 Před měsícem

      @@PureQuranGuidance you know that we have 2 outcomes here, they either changed it as you said, or they actually never changed anything and can be an outter concept, like the jews themselves calling themselves ''children of God'' and using Ezra as an example of such. And 18:56 would not fit in the debater's perspective

    • @PureQuranGuidance
      @PureQuranGuidance  Před měsícem +2

      ​@@faswfesafdfdas970 Since the debater can not prove they never said it. They can not say the Quran is wrong.
      10:36 And most of them follow not except assumption. Indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do.
      They are only following assumption.

    • @asdiciple
      @asdiciple Před měsícem

      @@PureQuranGuidancedo any of the Jewish sages in Muhammads time attest to this idea?

  • @fivenightsatfreddys9369
    @fivenightsatfreddys9369 Před měsícem

    Doglogic you cannot just pick quran verses and throw them here. That's why we have tafsirs not only translations

  • @lsx7611
    @lsx7611 Před měsícem +1

    Repent Jesus Saves

  • @ameer.thelion
    @ameer.thelion Před měsícem

    You should debate Muslim lantern

    • @owncraticpath
      @owncraticpath Před měsícem

      As a warning, ML according to Muhammad from God who debated him erased part of the arguments of him, i don't trust ML, sadly because i think on many issues he is a good debater, but when it comes to sect issues he serves his sect.
      I recommend you this video on honestly what was twisting stuff from ML: czcams.com/video/VjxGbAxeUUg/video.html
      And i truly say this with weight in my chest... but yes ML did lie, and i think he knew it.
      Because he knows, did i expect it from him? No, i actually liked his channel, he sounds convincing in everything he says...
      Anyways... but if he wants to debate in a middle platform with someone at his level, sure they should.
      But ML controls his platform and can kick out people.
      That's the issue.
      The most prepared person i know to defend this position is brother Sam Gerrans, but he is not into debating, he's more of a man of work...
      Which tbh i shoould probably copy from him since i waste too much time in comment sections, as it's becoming clear.
      Anyways.
      Check the video, if you want, since it does adress the arguments of ML against the Qur'an only position, many are debunked clearly, others you could perhaps still debate them...
      But yeah, hear both sides... otherwise if you only hear his, if you don't know the Qur'an or Arabic he will say what is not true and you won't even notice...

    • @kkunknownkk
      @kkunknownkk Před měsícem

      whats the benefit of being quran only would you say?

    • @owncraticpath
      @owncraticpath Před měsícem

      @@kkunknownkk What's the benefit of being upon truth and not following fabrications which will cause you to sin... well, not sinning? Understanding the Qur'an better since many sects cover up meanings of words with their narratives...
      The benefit is being more guided, God willing, closer to truth.
      Being able to obey the messenger as it actually should be done, instead of obeying fabricators and their agendas while thinking you are obeying the messenger...
      Being able to follow the Prophet better, by imitating his example in the Qur'an, instead of losing time with false narratives or imitating superfluous stuff like how he cleaned his teeth, if such narratives were true even...

    • @kkunknownkk
      @kkunknownkk Před měsícem

      @@owncraticpath I meant regardless of what's true, what are the perks of being Quran only because I would be devastated if the hadith were fake. But how do you make sense of the prophecies mentioned in the hadith?
      Also we do not contradict the Quran so even if we're wrong we would we should be safe from hell right?

    • @owncraticpath
      @owncraticpath Před měsícem

      @@kkunknownkk I also though about that.
      But if you realize how fabrications work, then you know they claim the person said it, and the person doing it has more knowledge, for isntance, i can write a gospel where Jesus predicts the second temple being destroyed, nobody here doubts Isa ibn Maryam being a prophet, but still i would be spreading falsehood, and sure if i write it after the second temple is destroyed, it makes sense for me to know that.
      The "prophecy" of the mongols for instance, i don't know if the writter of that narration truly heard someone from before pass that, or if he fabricated it after the invasion...
      What i want us to do is realize just because some people say something is true it doesn't mean it is.
      The narrations do contradict the Qur'an in many places, people just never read the books of narrations on their own, they only hear preachers brother, just like Christians, we have been fed up snippets.
      Nobody denies there is good in narrations, there is good even in the writtings of false prophets like Paul of Tarsus!
      The issue is with the worst of it, when it comes down to it, also note their position, the salafiya, some of them claim rejectin one "sahih" hadith is kufur... as if the compilators were gods who are infallable... the more learned are not so extreme, but still insist in the authority of it...
      One example, which i think is quite clear, is the Qur'an talking about people before saying "the fire won't touch us except for days counted"
      Aka, hell is not eternal for us.
      Then this is denied in the Qur'an.
      But they why do sunnis think the exact same thing?
      Because of ahadiths outside and after the Qur'an which claim now sunnis will not be in hell "except for days counted"
      Then you have surah 105 and others, which if you read them alone, your interpretation will make total sense, 105 being about the people of Lut.
      Because al fil doesn't only mean elephant, and the word for birds like fly is a word which also doesn't only mean that.
      Suddently when you look up other meanings of words, you see this fits better...
      But no, narrations say elephant army...
      There are more.
      Now, what you do is your thing.
      I doubted a bit also, when i saw people with wild interpretations, but later i still come to take this position because you see errors in Sunnism also.
      So, what do we do?
      The only place where i don't find errors is the Qur'an.
      Interpretations of it sure any text can be misinterpreted.
      Ahadiths besides it, they are admittedly manmade, like the gospels, they are not reliable in my opinion because they are not given authority by Allah nor by the prophet himself...
      The Prophets never saw Mark, Matthew, Luke and John, nor Sahih al Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, etc... or the Talmud also
      ..
      And Qur'an 6:112 mentions tbe enemies of the prophets saying things to delule people...
      Every prophet had it, and if one uses reason, it's obvious that this deceptive speech is in the ahadiths, as sahih, TO TEST US...
      Had Allah subhana wa taala willed, they wouldn't have been able to do it... but it's there for a reason, to test you and me.
      Stoning also, note how they play games with the preservation of the Qur'an only to please their desires of murd3ring people where the Qur'an says lashing and includes clearly married people... so it's not only unmarried...
      Yet no, they claim a verse got eaten by a goat or something, BUT it's still valid...
      So it kinda got abrogated but they still do it... see the nonsense?
      That's how the shaytan infiltrates the Qur'an without being able to touch it.
      You said you are fine, well idk, but if you murd3r a believer intentionally according to the Qur'an you will go to hell... eternally...
      So, people will literally go to hell because they followed other than the Qur'an for law, thinking they were good doers...
      This is what the first verses of al Baqara mention...
      We now quote it for the zi0nists, which is good, but sunnis also do it...
      They spread corruption on the land and then say "we are just following the sunnah" , they are the corrupters but don't realize it...
      There is more, sure you will lose friend, be alone, probably, but if the garden isn't worth it, what is?
      Keep researching, in sha Allah you will take the way of Ibrahim alaihi salam, hanifa, inclined to the truth no matter what happens.
      Do what you can.
      Peace