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- Cornel West gives his commanding proposition to the motion of "This House would Occupy Wall Street"
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Cornel West says that out of all the crimes committed by all the bankers not one of them has been investigated and this is because of the positions of power they hold.
He goes on to say that occupy Wall Street was more like a Jazz quartet than a military band. The reason why there was no single streamlined voice coming out of the movement was because it's the early stages of revolution, their just getting their instruments together so they can find their voices.
Filmed on Thursday 22nd November 2012
MOTION: THIS HOUSE WOULD OCCUPY WALL STREET
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Professor of African-American Studies at Princeton
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I can't believe only thirty three thousand people have seen this in over a year.
He is crazy.
+kingmatt2563 He's smart
Shameful
But, it doubled in only six more!
@@johnsmith1474 👏🏽
Whenever Dr West speaks I feel like I’m in a Black Congregation. I just wanna yell “Amen Brotha West!!” After every single sentence 😂
"Preeeach!"
Lmao
He is fun, but he debates with confusing nonsensical anecdotal statements. He never explains anything with facts or data.
Because Communism is a religion above all else.
He is an astonishing speaker! And a radical truth teller!
Kaloyan Stoyanov Yesssss 🙌🏽
Kaloyan Stoyanov. Actually it's people like him that are race-baiters in America. He's a professor and his one job is to talk about race therefore he has to keep saying racist problem and get black people who are very emotional people anyway all riled up about it. We should end such courses and throw people like him out of a job
@@achemedqureshi458You have to appreciate what he is doing and what he is saying. Parrhesia is to speak truth to power. This is an example of what parrhesia looks like. West is using his right to speech to raise issues about race, class, gender, and power. If you listen to what he is saying you would understand his words.
One of the leading intellectuals in the world
@@achemedqureshi458 Research him before you speak. That's the problem today. Intellectual laziness.
Best line... 7:07 A war criminal with a Nobel peace prize. The elites in the audience hated that truth...
They're not elites in the audience really, relatively speaking anyway.
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for.
His unimpeachable credibility comes from an undeniable core of love for humanity.
Exactly, the solution is a deep cleansing of the corruption, greed and excess that has caused the current situation. Holding the perpetrators truly accountable is essential. The establishment has too much to lose by letting this happen, but we have nothing to lose by losing the established establishment.
Yes, a deep cleansing and an Unconditional Basic Income. Check out my post above for more info.
This guy is awesome
Yes
i love what he says, and I love how he says it. I could listen to this man talk all day long!
It's amazing how everything Mr. West talks about is clear as crystal. His words make sense in today's world, amazing what a pandemic crisis can do to a simpleton like myself. Thnk Cornel West for speaking truth to power
Agree with him or not you have to admire his speaking style.
he's a deluded hysterical street preacher, no
Will Mcloughlin I think he’s more like a tenured professor at Harvard, Princeton, and Yale.... and has more research to back him than any of the propaganda you’ve been led to believe. The truth hurts, that’s why when he speaks people have a knee jerk reaction to him.
Will Mcloughlin you wish that’s you’re 1 percent of what he is. Stick to your warehouse job and leave intellectuals in their space.
What's in your wallet?
@@DMC-ss4cm His a Harvard & Princeton professor. What’s your accomplishments loser?
Seeing the young people clapping with such enthusiasm tells me there's still hope in the future. They will one day pick up the mantle and help create a more just society. Awesome speech, I must have listened to it over 10 times.
cornel west ! the best I have ever heard :) today on words u r my mst favt.
Cornell West is brilliant and speaks the truth! He is most inspiring speaker I have ever heard, on a par with Dr. King - his voice goes right through you!
This is why Dr. Cornel West is the greatest intellectual in the world today without question. Excellent speech and indictment of the plutocratic governments of the UK and the U.S.
He is vivacious and integral for the young people. He is not dangerous but,mendacious for oligarchs. Simply because he tells the intellect truth about their shenanigans amid the human species. I Love Cornel. He does it with love. Perfect for our time.
He doesn't say anything. He just passionately evokes things. This is nothing but a banal word salad.
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for.
overpowering wave of vague generalities and moralistic slogans in which nothing is worked through in a systematic way.
Look at the change in audience's body posture between the beginning and 7 minutes in.
People leaning, craning forward, to absorb as much as possible, the man to his right leaning back to take it all in, like he's at an Al Green show.
This man is in the real-life Justice league, along with Hitchens .
So powerful, I fuckin love this man.
I don't agree with him on everything but he is absolutely brilliant, and it is refreshing to hear him speak.
Cornel West is the best public speaker I know! Amazing Performance!
A beautiful man. A privilege to witness his testament of our times 🙏
The Occupy movement should focus on demanding an Unconditional Basic Income funded by a Financial Transaction Tax (a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction). A UBI is much simpler and more efficient than manipulating banks and corporations to try to create jobs (an economic ideology that has proven itself futile)
An Unconditional Basic Income is an adequate amount of basic income that gets automatically deposited into everyone's bank account every month (roughly the equivalent of a US $10 per hour job). The same amount to everyone, rich or poor, working or not. And with NO MEANS TESTING, so NO new government bureaucracies.
The simplicity of the idea is it's beauty. It's an idea that has been supported by both left and right leaning politicians as a way to eliminate poverty and avert violent revolution.
Switzerland is holding a referendum on this. If it passes, every Swiss citizen will receive an Unconditional Basic Income, rich or poor, working or not.
Wherever a UBI has been tried, people worked more, not less, and started small businesses. That's because the money was adequate enough that they didn't need to go into debt to the banks to ask for a startup loan. Wherever an ADEQUATE UBI was tried, crime decreased and health care costs went down and the overall economy improved.
The reason an Unconditional Basic Income is different than a minimum wage is because employers do not pay for a UBI. It would be funded by a Financial Transaction Tax which is a tiny percentage taken off every stock market transaction. That way employers won't raise prices and decrease jobs. In fact, a UBI would create MORE jobs because there would be more people buying products. Business would increase! Instant stimulation WITHOUT government intervention!
Because there is NO MEANS TESTING, no extra bureaucracy would be needed. It could be run by one computer that deposits money into EVERYONE'S bank account automatically. We have many unpaid workers in our society. Volunteers, artists, musicians, homemakers, grandmothers, etc. It's now time that they were valued monetarily by society.
It's time for REAL change - an Unconditional Basic Income! But politicians won't do anything this radically positive without a grassroots uprising from the people DEMANDING a UBI. So tell your friends and help make the UBI go viral!
i disagree
Incredible speaker. The truth will set you free!
Completely agree. Dr. West is an expert at discussing problematic issues but completely lost when it comes to speaking on realistic solutions. He has a way of being extremely entertaining and sounding like the most intelligent man in the room without ever really saying anything of substance. It's old school pimp talk with an academic twist.
Exactly. Incoherent intelegible ramblings. He never makes an actual point. He just says a bunch of bumper sticker slogans with poetic reverence. It amazes me people find him to be an intellectual
LOVE THIS LEARNING
I love this man. All the way from South Africa. I had hope that one day I'd be in his class or lecture but with Coronavirus that's never going to happen.
He's an EXCELLENT speaker and everything he said was the truth, so I'm curious to know what it is that you don't agree with.
Cornell West carrier and how people find his mindless incoherent ramblings to somehow be intelegible, let alone intelligent. He speaks with a poetic reverence but never makes an actual point or stays on topic for more than a few seconds.
HA! I love this! Dr. Cornel West @ his best again! "All Hail Cornel West!"
Curious to know what the outcome of the debate was?
Dr. Cornel West, the GALAXY's AMBASSADOR -CHANNELING THE ANGELS' VOICES in English, but torpedos all hearts with his heaven sent love and truth, the people's prophet, indeed!
Who, what spirit, contagious and inspiring!
A Gem 💎 I just discovered
Amen! Wow! Well said! Thank you
YES man!
Thanks
Truly, truly great.
What a fantastic orator!
Mass production was developed in the Springfield and Harper Ferry armories. Containerization was developed by the Navy and remained subsidized by defense spending long into its commercialization. Automation and Machine tools were developed by military engineers. N/C developed with public financing at MIT and air force labs.
And the history of the 1st world is the history of protectionism and socialism: from the American system to Bismarck, from MITI to General Park.
There's some facts for ya.
My tought exactly, Brother West
he's such a great speaker
No one should be suffering
The standing ovation says it all.
We need to move away for a society in which wealth is the sole motivation for achievement and the sole criteria in determining human value.
A now prophetic,prolific voice well required at this very moment in time and space.......in the world!!
Where is his speech like that in america to americans but still such great ability to say exactly what he means to say. Teaching.Reality.Under.The.Heavens.TRUTH
Such a cool sounding amd looking intellectual and speaker
I love the way this man speaks.
Awesome!
He is so awesome the Camera raised its hand haha
This Men is telling us to put emotions into our Lifes. Express what is Inside. There is a Vulcano in Each of Us
The people in the chamber will probably never act upon what Cornel West is implicating because they are the very people he is criticizing or in some way related to them.
You are absolutely right. Just look at some of them in the video, especially the ones behind West. They couldn't digest his food completely.
I agree. Wholeheartedly
i love listening to cornel west because he gives to you straight.. dont miss the message by being pre occupied with the messenger
what an inspiration for everyone...
great!!!
I agree.
There is such a thing as a propositional statement. I studied propositional logic as part of my Computer Science degree. It was not an academic debate on the subtlety of what certain concepts mean. For this debate the 'layman's' definition sufficed.
By the 50s West Germany had surrounded itself with protective tariffs, created an all-around social insurance system, and established a government cartel for coal and steel.
The corn bill was in 1844- 150 years after constant protectionism made England the only industrial state. Japan's economy was government planned up until the 1980s by the MITI. And the welfare state began in the 19th early 20th centuries by Bismarck in Germany and Lloyd George etc. and now everyone lives longer and happier.
merci a lot
What a great speech 🎤
Great speaker and i can certainly understand his views, and myself have a conflict with this topic. However, a lot of the major wealth is generational, which means the money came from someone working hard long ago to set up their family's future. I know there are different problems with that but do we want to take the money away from the descendants who didn't actually earn the money? Would that mean you support taking the money that Madam C.J. Walker's descendants have, or just the white ones? Do your children not get to benefit from your hard work? And at what amount do we start all this? There are a lot of millionaires out there.
Telling the Truth in front of the British Upper Class
Don't concentrate on the style that he delivers his message but what the message is what he is saying is more important then just a performance.
A propositional statement is one of:
A simple proposition denoted by a capital letter, e.g. ‘A’.
A negation of a propositional statement
e.g. A : “not A” (You can google it)
An academic definition is one used by experts that understand the broader literature and the complexity of a term in his field of study. Terms used by the man in the street are obviously different. However, social justice implies a fairer society to most people so it did not need to be defined for this type of debate.
true
Well said, Dr West, a brilliant speech!
He draws from everything and everyone in creating a philosophical outlook that has no definite form, takes no position on anything, and can’t seem to make a clear and precise statement as to what he actually stands for. An overpowering wave of vague generalities and moralistic slogans in which nothing is worked through in a systematic way.
What you see in America (and even 3rd world countries) today, a system based on corpratism and coercion, is not true free market capitalism. We blame corporations for the enormous wealth gap (rightfully so), but the government is the one propping them up through coercion. An educated public is what is truly important. In a truly free system, unions will ward off those inhumane conditions you speak of, and the american dream will shine true because education will level the playing field.
this type of charismatic speaker is something you will never hear in britain. Britsh people are too stuck up when they speak. it doesnt sound real at all. here we have absolute heart and fire
whenever I listen to Cornel West I always get a big stupid grin on my face
Look in the audience and see your kindred souls.
periodt.
great fair man tells it like it is,
God, was there a rebuttal to this? Or did they just die on the spot?
There was a great response (though I wouldn't necessarily call it a rebuttal).
Cornel West gave a great speech from the heart. Daniel Hannan gave a great speech from the mind.
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A war criminal with a Nobel Peace Prize. That's powerful stuff. We Americans need to hear it lots more often.
That girl sitting behind Hannan is gorgeus
He just cant drop the preacher in him
Toastmasters ain't got nuthin' on Brotha West!
what the fuck is he talking about
+Toxically Masculine You're a bit slow.
+Toxically Masculine Swooooosh.
Malcolm X once spoke at the Oxford Union. The Avello Publishing Journal Editorial Ambassador is Dennis Howard Marks (Balliol College, University of Oxford.
Salvation through loving one another is available to all. I read Galatians 2:11-21 (not only 16) which reinforces that Christians should not avoid wrongdoers or fail to love them. Then I read Ephesians 2:1-10 (not only 8-9) which again reiterates this point. Philippians 3:1-14 (9 isn't even a complete sentence), Paul encourages us to continue to strive for grace You've set a load of questions I've already answered with Matthew 25:31-46. You seem to be obfuscating, but I will answer again.
brilliant
Not once did he offer a solution, a good history lesson and name dropping. I am in agreement with you.
Yeah, and after he was done with Chile it had the most consistently growing economy in all of South America, and he eventually handed the government over to democracy. 100 million died in India under a centralized government that subsidized inefficient methods of labor, taxing the economy heavily and preventing more efficient methods from developing (e.g their textile industry). Compared to Hong Kong for example, which developed far more radically during that time period with 0 subsidization.
Actually, Occupy does have some stated goals and solutions. As for your argument that a "campaign in central park isn't going to fix a damn thing" - tell that to the people who successfully protested in anti-apartheid movements, along with other protest movements around the world that have been so successful.
So true, we as a people are still just trying to get our instruments together. But damnit hurry up.
They at least understand present value. The crisis was caused by a storm of unrealistic expectations on housing by bankers, pensioners, homeowners, real estate agents, businessmen and everyone else. If half the population had shorted these CDOs, the crash would have happened much sooner, but that didn't happen, because the general populace went along with the whole thing. Everyone is to blame.
Dr. West is more effective sitting down.
God bless you Cornel. Love you.
It is very provocative talk that open a window to understand the ideology of white supremacy in Western Culture.
The people who bought them, the houseowners, the real estate agents, the regulators, the government, the depositors, economists the list goes on. And it was retail banks who made the dodgy loans, not the investment banks. If you are going to blame investment banks, retail banks are no less a culprit.
THIS IS THE TRUTH
if they're gathering dust on a shelf, they aren't great solutions. technocrats have a unique form of blindness where they see only those abstractions they have personally studied and ignore all exigencies because to include them reveals how shitty their plans really are. people aren't cogs in a machine. they actively respond to their situation and thus must be willing partners in your solution or else they will work against it.
He seems to make the same mistake as nearly everyone on the Left of only caring about inequality and not caring about overall wealth.
Inequality is only really a problem of culture and psychology. Wealth is a problem of actual good and services. The 2 are completely different.
I don't think he only cares about inequality. I think he cares about poverty too. Also I'd say inequality is a political problem. Democracy usually dies by becoming an aristocracy. They become aristocracy's by huge amounts of wealth getting concentrated in a small group, that small group influences law making which solidifies their positions and then the broods of those families becoming politicians and continue it on down the line. Democracies need good spread out education, and relatively healthy wealth distribution. I think last time wealth inequality was this great in America was around Teddy Roosevelt. He was a great president who broke up all the big financial institutions and rooted out corruption in local gov't.
nOBODY TELLS THEYE ARE SAME. tHEY ARE DIFFERENT AND CONNECTED.
Sorry for spamming posts, but it's awesome that he got a standing ovation. Say what you want about Cornel West, he certainly can enrapture a room full of people.
Thanks for this; I've wondered if Dr West had appeared in the debate chamber with the topic of OWS--well, look at what we've got here.
No the hedge funds and investment banks who invented the products are to blame.
These beautiful Brits struggling so hard to allow the joy and exuberance of resistance to flow through them without repression- the young people are alright.
Cornel West is just brilliant!
I love this man 😁👏
Okay, you get up there, take his place, and enlighten us all... Please
elaborate
Have Dr West or Dr Sowell ever been interviewed by Oprah?
Or is Oprah only interested in interviewing celebraties?