@@V-95K If they would’ve had the graphics of the first trailer they showed, i would’ve gotten the game after my first desynchronization in MK1 😂 but after no real updates when Khameleon dropped, I went on ahead and bought Tekken. No regrets
Exactly there is no legacy . Tekken always feels like Tekken even if they do some different things . Mk they try to build a new game from the ground up which is dumb ASL tbh.
@@kanasas2yeah let’s have the exact same game each time….? I’d rather have something new instead of adding like one new mechanic. I don’t understand why ppl want their sequels to be exactly the same… especially in fighting games where the moves are almost identical between games.. boring
@derekwhite4312 And somehow, Tekken kept their identity while adding things to it and not taking away much. MK can't even stay consistent without dying off after a year.
@Realmktombrady have you ever actually played an mk game ? I disagreed with damn near all of your points in this video. Mk11 is leagues better than mk1 I just bought the game the other day and can already tell you it’s the worst mk. The gameplay is slower, worse combos, dropped features, cameos messed up gameplay, boring characters, art style is pretty but doesn’t feel like mk at all, lame X-rays, no modes, no crypt, terrible costumes, customization I could go on and on only played 3 days havnt even touched invasion or story mode but I can tell you this game makes mk11 look like the 🐐
No it won’t,they turn the comments off so Larry,Curly,and Mo…excuse me “Mo-niece” can frolic and giggle about their shtty little game with no backlash.
I believe the lack of a more evolved Krypt or Konquest mode really hurt the draw for casual fans. SF6 had World Tour mode which was very well received by casuals and raised the bar for what people expected from the single player portion of other fighting games. Invasions in theory sounded cool but in reality it feels like a half fleshed out feature they slapped in at the very end of development.
Absolutely spot on 💯. I LOVE MK! But I'm a very casual fan. I'm more of lore and story guy. Can you imagine if they made a new Konquest mode like the new Prince of Persia Metroidvania genre? It'll be 20 hours minimum. That would be so amazing
I checked steam last night before going to bed. There where approx. 1500 people in Mk1, 2400 in Mk11. 4700 in tekken 7 and 20000 in sf6 .. Pretty bad sign..
technically if you look at steam numbers of MKX & MK11 they have the same (even less retention) than MK1 in the first 5 months. they drop just as (more) drastically from launch to 5th month in. i think people are blowing this out of proportion. seriously look up the first 5 months on steam charts after MKX & MK11's releases if you don't believe me. if it's a bad sign it's a bad sign for all 3 of these games. js. :)) MK is either dead as a whole or maybe it's time to recognize steam playerbase literally means nothing for MK. hell the peak on steam for all their games has been less than 30k. it's not where mk fans play the game.
@@tracycook3556yes as discussed tl death out of the fighting game trinity it bolsters the largest casual audience among the 3. Theres infinitely more casuals on console than pc as to run a game like MK1 youd need a pretty decent rig that would cost more than either console.
If there is one thing I've always noticed with NRS games viewer numbers will be rather high. others are below it. But, the numbers for other titles go up over time and have massive increase. MK numbers are either Stationary or decrease. That's all platforms and tournaments @@tracycook3556
The problem with MK as a game and franchise: even with the massive number of sales, casuals only buy the game out of habit. There's no true love and support for the MK community and the competitive scene but these people to keep the hype of the game alive. What's the point of a million console players daily if none of them enter events, support Pro players' content, or even just watch big & local tournaments. NRS needs invest in what Capcom has been successful at; turning as many casual "drop the game after a week," into "competitive play lover." Because there's no better advertising for a FIGHTING GAME literally about a tournament, then having more people SUPPORT TOURNAMENT PLAY.
This is such a nonsense point, and it does not follow. Not pigeonholing a character into a specific type of playstyle limits player expression? I've had FAR more player expression in this game than I did in Mk9, MKx, and MK11, and I play Sub Zero. Just about every Sub Zero I've played plays differently too. Unfortunately, some people only find success with a playstyle that makes it seem like they hate life.
Heavily disagree, the kameos shouldn't have more of a focus than your actual character. Wish they had just made this a proper tag game and fully fleshed out the movesets to give everyone more options and personality @@vexcxxyalt
@Zimx02 most if not all characters have mostly the same strike/throw/shimmy playstyle in mk1. There is obviously differences from character to character, but most chars have the same core gameplan. If you could play mk11 at a high level, you play mk1 like 70% the same way, just with kameos and meter management. MKX 95% of roster was rushdown 50/50s, MK11 & MK1 most roster is strike/throw/shimmy. Kung Lao kameo gives entire roster near unblockables. I have no idea how you see mk9 that way as it had anti-zoners, zoners, rushdown, armor, trap, mixup/vortex, defensive, footsie, and a bunch of hybrid characters. But to each their own
@@enigmatic7303 also noticed a lot of enhanced moves in mk1 don't have unique animations like in older games, most of them just do more damage or extend the combo. Really feels like everything is so incomplete
im just waiting for a new MK, im not sure why they want to reinvent the wheel 1- NO TIME TRAVEL OR ALTERNATE UNIVERSE 2- good gameplay mechanic, speed it up a little bit 3- MK lore it supposed to be dark a little mysterious 4- just put MK characters i dont want a damn terminator i want sektor 5- make a konquest mode and get rid of micro transactions, boom there i fix MK
U tripping terminator RoboCop predator alien Jason and Leatherface were all super cool. You're right about sektor how u put him in the story with cyrax but not let us use them
@@kanasas2 yes they cool and all but you dont see any other fighthing game with so many guest characters, build your own damn characters and mk has a lot of them, build on mk lore dont put these things to the side to feature homelander…smh
@@don_specialfx2632 I miss the spend bar and roll out of the corner.. if you’re playing a character like Shao, his one armored wake up ain’t gonna save you from the weakest Cage player…
There's about 3 characters that can really keep you locked in the corner. MK1 is better than MK11 100%, 11 was terrible. You have armour options, delayed wake up, hard read pokes or standing jabs to counter a majority of set ups in MK1. It's fighting game basics, MK11 got players too reliant on scrubby gimmicks
The people who made Shaolin Monks and things like Konquest mode are long gone and not on staff at NRS anymore, if they did Shaolin Monks 2 it would be a cinematic story with chapters like every NRS game since MKvDC
Hold on bro…..ain’t no way you said there was no zoning in mk11 when Erron black, Cetrion, Scarlet, and robocop. Whether you agree to it or not they are considered “Zoners” lol. These characters have effective play styles to keep you out, it may not be as egregious as other “zoners” like robocop being slower, good timing and great situational playstyle gets the job done.
He doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. He only sees the pro player side not the casual side. In Mk11 you literally had NO option to do a combo more than 5 hits with scarlet all she can do is zone...
Jax Mk11 character design was tight ass hell. The animation on the quad grab was top tier. The way Jax switches grabs and talk shit after each slam is legendary. I wish Mk11 Jax was in Mk1
Tom is right, if you think that mk11 was good in any regard gameplay wise then you have no idea what a good fighting game is. Mk11 for me also is pure garbage gameplay wise. Never been so disapointed by a game like mk11.
@@heimstaden4588 shh shush....I've been playing fighting games since SF2 in the arcades. I didn't like MK11, but it's definitely not the worst fighting game ever. Go sit down somewhere.
Sadly... Yes. MKX got much more RIGHT than it got wrong... Heck, in retrospect, even its much maligned "Variations" have proven to be the most effective system for diversifying a roster that NRS have come up with. Conversely, MK1 feels more generic than MK11! Be it gameplay and atmosphere, or its guest characters and functionality (online notwithstanding -- NRS just cannot do online), MKX was as close as NRS came to catching lighting in a bottle. Had they released MKX: Remake -- on the ground that they needed more time to baste Ij3 (which is what MK1 started out life as) -- and added some stages (the one thing MKX lacked) and, perhaps, made a few NPC's playable (hacks already allow for it), the game would have sold millions, and set up their future game releases. Instead, MK1 is another nail in the WB-NRS relationship coffin...
I think what people are forgetting is that Mortal Kombat became a mainstream fighting game, not because of its competitiveness, but because of the violence and gore. For the most part, performing fatalities and brutalities are what most people are into.
SF6 I've got 114hrs and counting vs. MK1 only 48hrs and don't plan to come back unless something big changes, and this is from someone whose always been tunnel visioned into the MK IP.
I loved MK11 too, not only for the speed but the game is packed with so much content. Also glad I’m not the only one that feels like MK1 is slow and heavy almost.
Yeah, I played MK11 like crazy. I think I have more hours logged on MK1 at this point, but that was just to grind out the characters. I would honestly rather play MK11. I don't miss the Krypt (I think it's boring and pointless) but I did enjoy the variety of towers and especially the co-op towers. Why they cut that, I don't know. I also just feel like MK1 is just always trying to pry more money out of me and it is annoying. I'm happy to pay for things (sometimes), but this feels like they are constantly bombarding me with "give us more money, more money, more money!" and that gets under my skin.
So as someone who doesn't follow "MK" much at all...yeah, even I've been feeling like something has been up with "MK1". Like, I barely hear anyone talking about the game in general. And even past that, the little that I have heard has largely has been negative. Divisive story, lack of game modes, assists being unbalanced (something about Jax causing an unblockable loop at a tournament), surprisingly bad online, the Switch version, the lottery system, disappointing guest choices, etc. And again, I'm like ultra-casual when it comes to "MK". But even in comparison, "MKX" and"MK11" both had far more buzz surrounding them even well after this amount of time after their releases. It's to the point I somewhat forget "MK1" even released not too long ago
MK VS DC was probably more fun and has more replay value than MK1 that's a sad fact. Maybe the gaming industry will finally turn to listening go back to the good old ways if a titan like Mortal Kombat falls. So I'm okay with that
There is something i have noticed the past few years that games are getting praised at launch and after a while people then go...actually it is not as good as we thought and seems on many genres, Halo infinite, New world, Diablo 4 as well as Mk1
Yep, to much pre-release hype. Then it drops, people are propaganda juiced, and then reality sets in that its really not all that. Especially the folk that paid for premium or collectors on these games.
Communication that street fighter and tekken has with their communities is a reflection of how much both developers care about their players and game as opposed to the money.....wb about the money
The clash intros, air to air combos, fatal blow starts off just like injustice supermove. Yeah it's safe to say they switched up at some point in development...
i played mk11 every day till mk1 came out, but I'm not a pro. So this maybe an unpopular option, but I personally like the gameplay of mk11 way more than mk1. All mk1 has is chip damage and big combos . MK11 was more tactical, and you could actually punish people for mistakes. My ultimate game would be mk11 but with breakers and air combos
Facts and no top tier characters every character should be equal but be differentiated by their specials and normal strings. I’m tired of losing matches simply because I’m fighting a better character
i'm a bit puzzled whenever i see lots of video stating that MK1 is more fun , yet trashes every single mechanics it added or changed , or don't even like the character roster .
@@ZarathosDaimaoh the main problem with most of the NRS games is that there’s such a huge gap between the top characters and the lesser characters. The game becomes stale because in order to win you have to use certain characters and copy and paste the same strategies to win.
20:25 I think I understand what you, and Max are saying and you may not necessarily disagree. But MK11 is actually faster than MK1 in its gameplay. However because there is more to lookout for in MK1, it may not feel that way in the moment. I went back to play a few matches on MK11, and the game did in fact feel very fast to me, coming from MK1, although still slower than MKX. The animations in MK1 are a lot more drawn out [slowed down from the first hit], and I have noticed the high number of timeouts in high lvl MK1 games as compared to 11. I remember when MK1 first came out and I sent my sister some of my footage, one of her first comments was she noticed how sluggish the game looked compared to 11, which says a lot since she barely plays these game and even she could notice that. Would encourage you to see for yourself
MK1 has faster movement speed and the pace of neutral is faster than 11s. What is slower in MK1 compared to 11 is the speed of animations which make combos feel slower.
Tom really hates mk11 so that's a big reason why he may not be able to see that. Even the frame data supports 11 being faster multiple characters had 9 frame mids . I think in mk1 Johnny is the only person with a 9 frame mid and a 6 frame d1.
@@awesometaco8001 I wouldn't agree on faster neutral, and the movement feel character dependent, but on average with block dashing taken into consideration- about the same as 11. I agree with you: the slower animations are so slow- and so many strings are 3-4+ hits whereas in 11 most strings you had 2 hits to hit confirm
@@awesometaco8001MK11 movement varied by each character, some had faster dashes, but the fastest characters in that game moved FAST. I’m talking wave dashing with Fujin, Mileena, Rain, etc. they were extremely fast. Idk if anyone in MK1 rivals that, maybe Johnny, but I think there’s more consistent better movement across the roster in 1, but it’s not as fast as the fastest in 11 if that makes sense.
I love the video tom but your a little to blame as well. Casual players made these complaints in season one. Your response was we suck at the game. You even made that video about competitive vs Casuals players. Now that the casual players have moved on its how do we save the game? I'm not sure but more cameo usage isn't it. Your views on the casual players gave rise to people like fate. While most people don't like him including me he was saying how the casual community felt. Pro players called him an idiot and it felt like you called all casual players idiots for not enjoying the game. If you see this comment know that I like you as a creator but yeah your a little at fault too
What are the "sales" for big pharma, junk food, ꞇꜧוֹIꓒ trafficking? The "sales" are good, right?... So, that makes the products "good" too, correct? (See what I did there? 😏)
@@Rodniikun If you cannot understand an *analogy,* I cannot help you any further, and your case must escalated to a lower level service department... 😑
@@Rodniikun To translate the stupid for you. He’s saying just because a game sells well doesn’t mean it good. There is some legitimacy to this line of thinking but to WB executives it doesn’t really matter.
As a HUGE MK fanboy, MK1 is the first game that made me quit playing after 3 months... The Kameo System is just bad for the game. Characters have no Identity beside pairing into some safe gimmick to win online. Maybe I will come back for Ermac since i gave em the money for it. There is soo much wrong with the polish and modes, and ye the online is unplayable. Looking at the Suicide Squad game, seems like WB Games is the new canncer ruining some great development Studios. Guess they dont care, they got my money.
Mk11 is fun to me… not as much as mk1 but still I enjoy it. But I don’t play fighting games seriously besides mk games.. you’re trippin if you seriously think mk11 is the worst fighting game ever. Not even close
Slowly abandoned by the both the casual and hardcore FGC, but instantly dropped by the mainstream. The FGC shows up for its games, even if the games all sell less combined
It's like a endless cycle, mk1 mk2 mk3 then mk4 made the franchise crash. Then they comes back from the dead with 3d era with huge content, cool story, great visuals, a revamped Mortal Kombat, MKDA, MKD, and MKA. Then again they crash with MKvsDC. MK9 comes out, revitalize the franchise like never before, huge success and i mean not only in the sells department, MK is praise again as a good fighters. MKX follow this trend, as always with good new feature (stance), run is back, everyone like to watch the game in tournaments. MK11 suffer from design flaws, political stuff no one care about but overall in the end, mk11 is just not the best mk, like Armageddon was. According to what we see now right now, MK1 may be another "crash" for the franchise.
It's definitely a problem cause of zoning and kameos. 1st thing coming to mind is scorpion. A lot of it is waiting for the spear, dash a bit, duck the sareena, dash up a bit more, wavedash a bit more, they jump kick into spear or empty jump and grab. Like man I'm not gonna say I'm good at the game but I also won't say it's a skill issue when you get hit by shit you react to..... because of input delay So all these kameos make you be slow in your approach.... dudes walking back, you throw a few projectiles and you trade with frost kameo..... And this is besides the point already but these omni-man players that you start beating up just decide to get mad and abuse the lao hat and the overhead superman so they can then proceed to teabag at the end of a round....🙄
MK11 felt faster in my opinion. Even outside charscters that disrespect neutral like kotal, fujin, kabal, Jacqui (that you mentioned). Wave dashing felt more fluid and (for lack of better term) "speedy". Characters like kollector and jax while slow could dash block far more effectively than characters in mk1. Idk if that is caused by the crappy netcode in mk1, but i think it could olay a factor.
@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 This! Idk how people don't get this and try to blame corporate greed for everything. NRS is full of boomers that curate the safest character designs, still think stupid match modifiers and things like AI matches make the game fun. They didn't get the message in the 3rd game in the row that we don't give a shit. They have no idea how to make a game ingaging for casuals & hardcore players alike.
@@arch5701i dont think a lot of the veterans are left in NRS anyways. Plus I'm not sure if those working in NRS actually have fighting game knowledge they might have ideas but don't have the skill to implement them.
Your closing sentiments really hit home. Just hearing "BRO THEY UNLEASHED EVERYTHING THEY REALLY POWERED UP THE GAME!" Immediately brought a smile to my face. Im one of those people who have the FGC DNA and got love for all them beyond a casual sense and it makes me just as happy as it would a casual player. The community seems to be on the samw page with what we all want! Unfortunate that the game MUST falter before any true change happens.
MK11 needed the SFV treatment... We should've still gotten dlc content for that game and MK1 should've been released in 2025. MK1 is a watered down version of MK11 and looks and feels very mobile cheap. It's honestly painful to be a MK fan right now. It's embarrassing.
MK11 was boring at anything above a basic level of gameplay -- it was too stilted, and felt like a "linear" fighting game, compared to MKX's "open world". Having said that, the MK11 being a more or less "komplete" product, makes comparisons unfair; especially given MK1 was released in effective beta, and it still unfinished in even fundamental aspects, like online functionality, offline content, a fully-fledged roster _et al.._
I hate MK1. I played every MK since the 90s, I really love the MK franchise, I love the characters and the story. I dont care about E-Sports or "the pros" and I dont care about 50% combos. So, I love MK11 more. I really hate Invasion Mode. Its like a mobile game, its grindy and boring. I loved the towers of time and the krypt in MK11 more. I hate kamos and I hate the character designs and the god damn ugly skins, even the shop ones. I wish I could refund this crap game on steam. I loved every MK before 1. They ruin my interest in the franchise with that crap game. DLC wont save the game.
Yeah with its pace , some of us can only notice and focus on the kameo unbalance . Within a chaotic game like MvC or Dbfighterz , it's obviously there but the fun is hiding the forest , at least long enough
Actually, the game _Was_ Ij3, only re-purposed at the eleventh hour, due to the cancellation of the Justice League 2 film. Ed Boon admitted to as much, just qualifying the fact behind _"We'd have needed two more years to complete Ij3, and WB could not wait that long"._
@@shoahkhan5670 Would make sense with all the Super Hero characters. Its easy to assume theyre adding all these super heros to test out a new injustice (omni man, etc)
Every char. in MK games is a potential "Zoner", because projectiles don't clash, and the all have projectiles! Heck, the characters are so idiotically designed that most are also "teleporters" 🤣
The difference between Maximilian and people who only make videos talking about how much MK1 sucks: Maximilian makes videos for a love for all videos rather than focusing on hating one, AND Maximilian said he really likes the game...
Why do people have so much hate for mk11? I personally think it’s a great game with lots of content, stellar graphics and skins. I have allot of fun playing it even till this day. And those fatalities and fatal blows are violent as hell.
HOLD UP A MINUTE TOM... You may not like MK11 as a "Fighting Game" BUT as a Mortal Kombat Game it's absolutely Amazing! Being able to create 5 different variations, & create their names & make some of them MK related names & things only the most loyal MK fans know! & get! 😊. All the different Outros & Intros I loved! And I know this stuff is more MK relevant then it is fighting game relevant.... But what can I say, I'm a way bigger fan of Mortal Kombat, then I am a fighting games... 😊 Thanks for your videos & updates Tom! Love your Content!
100% MK feels like an eternity to find matches! Especially over other fighters out there like GGS Tekken 7 and sf6, for me at least. Just sitting there to get declined or have the game desync after 1 round completely makes me not even want to waste my time in the mode. I feel like it felt the same in MK 11 as well. I know I play on PC so the player base is much smaller than Xbox and PS and there lies another one of the issues is that cross-play doesn't exist for my platform and based off of MK11 it will most likely be the same as that game. Just kinda feels bad,
Maybe its weird to say but I feel genuinely nostalgic for the early MK11 days. Just getting to explore the krypt for the first time, unlocking all the heads to get the secret room, grinding character towers, I just miss it
Absolutely. The game was rushed and is a repurposing of Injustice 3 -- facts, alone, which point to the game being "officially" dropped within 24 months; and much sooner in reality. If they are still releasing DLC in 2026, I'll dance the jig naked at the Super Bowl... They will announce "Kombat Pack 2" with the story expansion, in the middle of this year, then milk that for 12 months, as the core developers a steadily moved to another project (if they have not moved on already).
Imo Mortal Kombat 9 was peak to me. I kept buying the new ones thinking that the experience would be compare to that one. It was so good I got my friends in college who don't play fightings hooked on it and actually get good. The game was complex enough and simple enough. Archtypes in that game were clear and it was pretty balanced, with the exception of Kratos. Microtransactions were nonexistent. The character roster was fantastic. NRS changes too much for no reason.
I think WB wanted NRS to test the waters with the microtransactions in MK9. Then WB told them to push a little bit with MKX. Then we know how it went to MK11 and worse with MK1. Would've been nice if NRS took the core fighting fundamentals of MK9 and improved it with the next games. But alas they had the keep on changing the gameplay/mechanics with each game.
Haven't finished the video but this narrative that pros & content creators matter less because they're "less than 1%" is false, objectively. Together, they hold more influence than any other single entity in the community. Millions of people tune in for their opinion on all platforms. This includes large youtubers and reporters outside the community. They influence a massive chunk of a game's marketing. They have to be satisfied if a competitive game is to last.
You my friend are absolutely right, unpopular opinion but I don't think mk1 is that bad. But because pro players and content creators/influencers have been banging on that it's bad game for a while now everyone in the community now thinks the same even though some casuals actually don't have an issue with the game. The problem MK has is it's only audience is in the west and fgc is basically the opinions of the west. FGC is always complaining even SF6 has had some backlash the difference is other parts of the world don't care and keep those games alive. So while the west tried to talk smack about sf6 the Asian Market don't care and are keeping the game alive mk doesn't have that it just has the west as an audience. The sheep mentally in the FGC is quite bad as you said people literally hang on to the words of fgc content creators to decide if a fighting game is good on or not instead of if they themselves enjoy it.
The first videos I watched of this I game I felt like it was unfinished. I didnt even think the game was real when all the clips gotnreleased and it was getting promoted.
Have you seen that 90% completed hidden tag mode in the game's files? That's how I imagined the kameos to be before launch, game looks fast and fun as shit. I'll be over here patiently waiting for "Mortal Kombat 1+2"
This is going to be my TLDR take on MK1: I didn't love MK11 but I was a top 1% player for the length of time I cared to play it. (I am also biased to MK11 bc of all the great people I met through the game. It was bc of MK11 and the people that played it that I made it through some of the hardest times of my life) It took me no longer than 4 days to figure out that I would not have any fun playing MK1 because I immediately could see how much kameos made the game. Yes we had more than our fair share of complaints about MK11, but I will say that even that game provided a tiny bit more in terms of gameplay than MK1. Especially in the majority of MK1 it does not seem to matter what the general frame data for characters is, we are funneled into watching kameos used as safety. Regardless of what any character in the game can do we mostly see the same gameplan out of a lot of characters in terms of how they use the kameo system. A big complaint people had about MK11 was how the meter system rewarded people for doing nothing but waiting.....I see no difference here in this game for the most part. While meter is built differently in this game kameos regenerate quickly and fill that gap and continue to reward sloppy gameplay by keeping players safe after any "risk" they take. While MK11 didn't offer the best creativity we've ever seen it did offer more character depth than I feel we see in MK1. I actually loved how given the MK11 climate we still saw strong communities for each character. (I was very active with the community during MK11 and I loved the little groups each character had behind them) Obviously the top players will still find ways to be amazing at the newest game, but I feel that this game doesn't have too much in terms of gameplay to retain those players that aren't the absolute top tier. I know people have debates about buffing/nerfing certain things about our NRS games, but given the foundation we have here with MK1 I don't feel like any amount of fixing NRS can provide will scratch that itch we have as players of their game. These are just my opinions, please feel free to let me know your points of view
Mk1 is my first fighting game ever. I really like the online play, I think it's ok in balancing and extremely fun. I just don't get the criticisms. Of course, the game is rushed, it lacks content, net code is no good, desyncs are annoying, invasions are boring, cosmetics lack variety etc etc. But the actual gameplay, which is the only thing I care about, is great to me, I can't get enough
1. Neglect the pro scene to pander to a casual audience 2. Neglect the general consensus of the player community 3. Ignore the entire fanbase 4. Make social media comments asking "which kameo will you be using this week"
That is what dragon fighters did, the team made every character good and everyone just said what the channel host just said "The Game is Crazy as they just Powered Everyone Up"
To elaborate on your point around 12:00 I completely dropped this game because it didn’t have online leaderboards for towers.(or at least I couldn’t find them)
The only things NRS has to do is: • Fix online Netcode and Dsyncs. • Buff bottom half of the characters to Johnny/Ashrah/Geras/Kung Lao/Sindel's strength and Buff Kameos to Khameleons strength and utility. • Offline single player modes need fixed like Invasions Mode and Towers need 5X the XP gained & koins. If not make invasions the Krypt when expansion comes out. But just increasing rewards per win so it's not grindfest it would mostly fix it. Then they can add modes, more features, then give characters more customization & more good skins instead of color swaps. Then add 1 more or 2 additional gear pieces to have better options for customizing your characters. Kameos/DLC need more customization.
Its funny cause i played mkx the other day and i played 97 games with a guy and didnt notice a thing if i play more 10 or more games in mk1 i feel bored and exhausted i cant even watch the tournaments for mk1 unless its grand finals cause i cant stomach the game that long
Has anybody ever heard Tom use the word falter??? Ever since Max said it in the video, Tom keeps looking for opportunities to use the word himself LMAO
I liked mk11 I wasn't bored at all but hey I'm in the minority . Mk1 the cameo stuff is just a gimmicky thing that ends up being boring because it's implemented in a shit way . Online I guess I'm lucky because I don't have any problems finding games but I do get the de sync which is unacceptable .
Yeah I put a ridiculous amount of hours into MK11 and never really got bored. I’m done with MK1 already and redownloading MK11 as I type. There is only so much stormcell into kano I can take before it puts me to sleep
@@EMdemo No way you mean he actually did want a reaction video is supposed to be normally these types of videos are just people talking over the video being reacted to
Mk11 had Terminator as its main grappler and fittingly enough also mk11 had a Robocop as its main zoner Jax has always been a grappler in every MK game
Awesome points. I know lots of people komplaining about mk 1. It's obviously gonna be better over time. Hoping for 1v1 to kome back. Then everyone will be jumping back on and praising. I'll always be a fan. Always have been since mk 1 and 2 on Sega. I totally see your points as well. Totally agree
I think i told my friend is the round thing witht the icon of the character Kameleon is tranforming should go that as timer to indicate the next tranformation is coming
I enjoyed mk11 far more than mk1. MK1’s movement is weird, the jumping is too floaty. I’d be here typing all damn day if I said everything I didn’t like about. MKX was the best, give me more of that.
I honestly don't see why NRS couldn't just make a traditional Tag Team VS mode like in MK9 and make the Kameo characters playable. Like I understand trying to make a sequel with a whole new set of mechanics to keep it interesting, but I feel like the MK11 had a better time with keeping players interested due to the custom variations, despite the breakaway mechanic being a terrible way to escape being juggled.
I beg to differ. The kameos' little life should also be a lifebar around their meter or under the main characters lifebar. It should also be separated from the characters' health when it comes to damage. If a kameo gets hit the number of times that their life is, they should be knocked out for the remainder of the round. If you get flawless blocks, you should be able to build that life meter back up fully to bring the kameo back into play. Including nullifying damage, changing frame data to more punishable data, and less pushback. A kameo getting hit shouldn't take from a flawless victory, neither. They should give us double flawless if both remain untouched and quadruple flawless victory if you can do it both rounds. That will bring a new level of excitement for all players. Kameos need to be adjusted upwards to be on the same level as Strker, Lao, and pre-patched Cyrax. The characters also need to be buffed up to the levels of Cage, Kenshi, Geras, Mileena, Ashra, Li Mei, and pre-patch Raiden/Baraka (I'll give my reasons on my selections later). On the kameo having the ability to be brought back to life. In the second round, if the kameo is hit by a killing shots like (physical hits, projectiles, fatal blows into, or a classic uppercut brutal). The players should have the ability to kill the kameos, too, with a brutality to eliminate them from coming back in the possible last round. From a string, projectiles with brutality requirements, or D2s. Some characters need hit regions adjustments as well, like Quan Chi S2 should be a mid, Scorpion, S4 should also be a mid, Tanya drill should be a low, etc. The same could be said for the kameos, too. Fatal blows need less pushback on them and should be death on block, no questions ask. Some characters need expressive freedom like reptile with his force balls not having options and taking so long to recover from it that he can't move with them on screen. I can go on all day, especially with the reason I listed the characters I have above. If anyone is interested in that, just ask me what's up?
Mk1 made me buy my first Tekken game. Thank you 😂
I'm trying hard to not go down that path
Same here
Im thinking of doing the same man.
The only thing that keeps me away from buying Tekken is the art style
@@V-95K If they would’ve had the graphics of the first trailer they showed, i would’ve gotten the game after my first desynchronization in MK1 😂 but after no real updates when Khameleon dropped, I went on ahead and bought Tekken. No regrets
i hate how every MK has to be drastically different from the last. all they had to do was go back and make a mk9/x style game and everyone is happy.
Exactly there is no legacy . Tekken always feels like Tekken even if they do some different things . Mk they try to build a new game from the ground up which is dumb ASL tbh.
@@kanasas2yeah let’s have the exact same game each time….? I’d rather have something new instead of adding like one new mechanic. I don’t understand why ppl want their sequels to be exactly the same… especially in fighting games where the moves are almost identical between games.. boring
@@derekwhite4312 Yea lets have a dramatically different game that is bound to break upon release instead of adding upon a game that everyone loves.
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@derekwhite4312 And somehow, Tekken kept their identity while adding things to it and not taking away much. MK can't even stay consistent without dying off after a year.
I feel like NRS just can’t make good fighting games anymore. The last ‘really good’ game NRS released was MKX.
I think MK1 has better gameplay than MKX. The product itself is trash but the core gameplay is the best NRS has ever done imo.
No lie tho MKX still is the best fighting game of all time tho
Mkx was not a good fighting game stop it lol
Mkx has such a "savage" feel to all the combos I miss that. That's the best way to describe it. It had soul
Crazy how nrs is willing to recycle features like fatal blows or krushing blows/ xrays but won't bother adding the run feature back.
Miss MK9 days bad.
I haven't bought an MK game since 9 and definitely feel like I haven't missed out.
Good for u bud
I haven't bought an MK game since 9 as well.
@@ThePTurtle115 You missed out quite a lot on X
@Realmktombrady have you ever actually played an mk game ? I disagreed with damn near all of your points in this video. Mk11 is leagues better than mk1 I just bought the game the other day and can already tell you it’s the worst mk. The gameplay is slower, worse combos, dropped features, cameos messed up gameplay, boring characters, art style is pretty but doesn’t feel like mk at all, lame X-rays, no modes, no crypt, terrible costumes, customization I could go on and on only played 3 days havnt even touched invasion or story mode but I can tell you this game makes mk11 look like the 🐐
I think Hector Sanchez was a BIG reason of MK9’s success. His role and touch with the fans did many positive things for the game.
The next kombat kast is going to be awkward moment 😂
No it won’t,they turn the comments off so Larry,Curly,and Mo…excuse me “Mo-niece” can frolic and giggle about their shtty little game with no backlash.
I doubt they have one tbh
It’s pre recorded
Are you implying that it's not awkward every time? haha
Did d they have one for Chameleon?
I believe the lack of a more evolved Krypt or Konquest mode really hurt the draw for casual fans. SF6 had World Tour mode which was very well received by casuals and raised the bar for what people expected from the single player portion of other fighting games. Invasions in theory sounded cool but in reality it feels like a half fleshed out feature they slapped in at the very end of development.
Absolutely spot on 💯. I LOVE MK! But I'm a very casual fan. I'm more of lore and story guy.
Can you imagine if they made a new Konquest mode like the new Prince of Persia Metroidvania genre? It'll be 20 hours minimum. That would be so amazing
Bruh, mk mobile has a krypt that's literally Invasions without the story.. I think they stole Invasions from their mobile game
the Konquest mode is so boring
You could’ve gave me sub zero mythologies part 2 as Konquest mode and I would’ve super happy. Invasions is worse than special forces smh
SF6 is the most accessible entry for newbies whilst still being Incredibly difficult to master.... Plus the whole reworked engine is something else.
NRS WE WANTED A TAG TEAM GAME MODE NOT AN ASSIST ONLY GAME
Let me re-phrase that:
NRS, WE WANTED MK9 SPLICED WITH MKX, NOT THE TRASH THAT HAS BEEN THE BORING MK11 AND BROKEN TRASH, MK1.
@@shoahkhan5670 fr fr
Mk9 was so good
NRS Devs: OK, so to be clear...
You guys *DONT* want tag team right? Okay, you heard them Ed. We did all we can do .¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I checked steam last night before going to bed. There where approx. 1500 people in Mk1, 2400 in Mk11. 4700 in tekken 7 and 20000 in sf6 .. Pretty bad sign..
technically if you look at steam numbers of MKX & MK11 they have the same (even less retention) than MK1 in the first 5 months. they drop just as (more) drastically from launch to 5th month in. i think people are blowing this out of proportion. seriously look up the first 5 months on steam charts after MKX & MK11's releases if you don't believe me.
if it's a bad sign it's a bad sign for all 3 of these games. js. :)) MK is either dead as a whole or maybe it's time to recognize steam playerbase literally means nothing for MK. hell the peak on steam for all their games has been less than 30k. it's not where mk fans play the game.
@@tracycook3556yes as discussed tl death out of the fighting game trinity it bolsters the largest casual audience among the 3. Theres infinitely more casuals on console than pc as to run a game like MK1 youd need a pretty decent rig that would cost more than either console.
If there is one thing I've always noticed with NRS games viewer numbers will be rather high. others are below it. But, the numbers for other titles go up over time and have massive increase. MK numbers are either Stationary or decrease. That's all platforms and tournaments @@tracycook3556
Who cares about steam player counts, I never have problems finding matches on ps5
The problem with MK as a game and franchise: even with the massive number of sales, casuals only buy the game out of habit. There's no true love and support for the MK community and the competitive scene but these people to keep the hype of the game alive.
What's the point of a million console players daily if none of them enter events, support Pro players' content, or even just watch big & local tournaments.
NRS needs invest in what Capcom has been successful at; turning as many casual "drop the game after a week," into "competitive play lover." Because there's no better advertising for a FIGHTING GAME literally about a tournament, then having more people SUPPORT TOURNAMENT PLAY.
The problem with having no clear cut archetypes is thay it also significantly limits player expression.
This is such a nonsense point, and it does not follow. Not pigeonholing a character into a specific type of playstyle limits player expression? I've had FAR more player expression in this game than I did in Mk9, MKx, and MK11, and I play Sub Zero. Just about every Sub Zero I've played plays differently too. Unfortunately, some people only find success with a playstyle that makes it seem like they hate life.
Kameo determines the play style in this game which is better imo and give more options for your main
Heavily disagree, the kameos shouldn't have more of a focus than your actual character. Wish they had just made this a proper tag game and fully fleshed out the movesets to give everyone more options and personality @@vexcxxyalt
@Zimx02 most if not all characters have mostly the same strike/throw/shimmy playstyle in mk1. There is obviously differences from character to character, but most chars have the same core gameplan. If you could play mk11 at a high level, you play mk1 like 70% the same way, just with kameos and meter management.
MKX 95% of roster was rushdown 50/50s, MK11 & MK1 most roster is strike/throw/shimmy. Kung Lao kameo gives entire roster near unblockables. I have no idea how you see mk9 that way as it had anti-zoners, zoners, rushdown, armor, trap, mixup/vortex, defensive, footsie, and a bunch of hybrid characters. But to each their own
@@enigmatic7303 also noticed a lot of enhanced moves in mk1 don't have unique animations like in older games, most of them just do more damage or extend the combo. Really feels like everything is so incomplete
im just waiting for a new MK, im not sure why they want to reinvent the wheel
1- NO TIME TRAVEL OR ALTERNATE UNIVERSE
2- good gameplay mechanic, speed it up a little bit
3- MK lore it supposed to be dark a little mysterious
4- just put MK characters i dont want a damn terminator i want sektor
5- make a konquest mode and get rid of micro transactions, boom there i fix MK
U tripping terminator RoboCop predator alien Jason and Leatherface were all super cool. You're right about sektor how u put him in the story with cyrax but not let us use them
@@kanasas2 yes they cool and all but you dont see any other fighthing game with so many guest characters, build your own damn characters and mk has a lot of them, build on mk lore dont put these things to the side to feature homelander…smh
Boi you hit the nail on the head except the guest characters part.
I dont like the trend that WB created with guest characters
Also, music by Dan Forden only and no orchestrated bullshit music.
I’m in the minority here but I like MK 11 better…. This game when you’re in the corner, it’s basically over…
I agree. It's fairly easy to end someone in a corner. A lot of people in the comment section are just bloated! Although given time, mk1 will shape up
@@don_specialfx2632 I miss the spend bar and roll out of the corner.. if you’re playing a character like Shao, his one armored wake up ain’t gonna save you from the weakest Cage player…
_>"This game when you’re in the corner, it’s basically over…"_
Are you talking about Street Fighter 6, or MK1? 😏
Wayyyyyyyyyy better .... Felt more like playing chess
There's about 3 characters that can really keep you locked in the corner. MK1 is better than MK11 100%, 11 was terrible. You have armour options, delayed wake up, hard read pokes or standing jabs to counter a majority of set ups in MK1. It's fighting game basics, MK11 got players too reliant on scrubby gimmicks
Shujinko is by far a slept on kameo. His character design makes the game fun
4:26 bro did MK11 kick your puppy?? LMAO
MK11 sucks. Its a fact.
We need a new Shaolin Monks.
Finally. A man of culture.
The people who made Shaolin Monks and things like Konquest mode are long gone and not on staff at NRS anymore, if they did Shaolin Monks 2 it would be a cinematic story with chapters like every NRS game since MKvDC
I would be nice. But can the current NRS team pull it off? They're having trouble with every game they're releasing.
I would not ask for SM2. Just another property to water down and monetize.
No, now that’s a boring game.
Mk1 definitely watered-down the zoning which I absolutely loved that they did
Play quan chi he feels great
Hold on bro…..ain’t no way you said there was no zoning in mk11 when Erron black, Cetrion, Scarlet, and robocop. Whether you agree to it or not they are considered “Zoners” lol. These characters have effective play styles to keep you out, it may not be as egregious as other “zoners” like robocop being slower, good timing and great situational playstyle gets the job done.
He doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. He only sees the pro player side not the casual side. In Mk11 you literally had NO option to do a combo more than 5 hits with scarlet all she can do is zone...
I was about to say... RoboCop's whole thing WAS zoning.
Jax Mk11 character design was tight ass hell. The animation on the quad grab was top tier. The way Jax switches grabs and talk shit after each slam is legendary. I wish Mk11 Jax was in Mk1
And he got great krushing blow package, you know youre in trouble when he got hot lol. Id nerf his fatal a lil bit though, too fast
I would assume it is based on how many people actually play the character. Barley saw him in mk11
@@susanw1863 Facts
MK11 with MKX gameplay, would have been pinnacle NRS. Alas, instead, we got casualware and now turdware.
@@shoahkhan5670facts😂
I wasn't a huge fan of MK11, but calling it the worst fighting game in history... c'mon now.
Yeah, major exaggeration for effect there, I think!
Nah Tom is 100% on point, it's the worst mainstream fighter I've ever played, unbelievably dry and boring, filled with scrubby mechanics.
@@TheDylbot5000 then you haven't played many. I definitely didn't enjoy it, but the worst ever...? Naw...
Tom is right, if you think that mk11 was good in any regard gameplay wise then you have no idea what a good fighting game is.
Mk11 for me also is pure garbage gameplay wise. Never been so disapointed by a game like mk11.
@@heimstaden4588 shh shush....I've been playing fighting games since SF2 in the arcades. I didn't like MK11, but it's definitely not the worst fighting game ever. Go sit down somewhere.
MK9 And MKX Are All Time GOATS
Facts facts
An actual 2v2 wouldve been better with all the kameos as playable as well
lol I literally just said this. We wanted a tag team mode mode, not a assist only game
Even though I like the Kameos, I agree with this lol
Yea people asked for Tag team, but NRS gave us kameos… 🤦🏻♂️
MKX is the 🐐
Sadly... Yes. MKX got much more RIGHT than it got wrong... Heck, in retrospect, even its much maligned "Variations" have proven to be the most effective system for diversifying a roster that NRS have come up with. Conversely, MK1 feels more generic than MK11! Be it gameplay and atmosphere, or its guest characters and functionality (online notwithstanding -- NRS just cannot do online), MKX was as close as NRS came to catching lighting in a bottle. Had they released MKX: Remake -- on the ground that they needed more time to baste Ij3 (which is what MK1 started out life as) -- and added some stages (the one thing MKX lacked) and, perhaps, made a few NPC's playable (hacks already allow for it), the game would have sold millions, and set up their future game releases. Instead, MK1 is another nail in the WB-NRS relationship coffin...
I think what people are forgetting is that Mortal Kombat became a mainstream fighting game, not because of its competitiveness, but because of the violence and gore. For the most part, performing fatalities and brutalities are what most people are into.
From the wisdom I learned in the very first Mortal Kombat: “Finish Him!” 😭
I just loved mk11 for my homie noob saibot 😭
This is my thoughts EXACTLY!
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His coming back in kp2
@@marklo6283 not fast enough 😂
SF6 I've got 114hrs and counting vs. MK1 only 48hrs and don't plan to come back unless something big changes, and this is from someone whose always been tunnel visioned into the MK IP.
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Man im the opposite ends. I LOVED MK11. That games pace alone was so fast that i fell in love with it. Mk1 it feels like im walking in mud.
Mk 1 is fast af but you have to wave dash. Im not really good at it but i notice top players make the game fast
@@dmtmediabrothers I can wavedash fluently. MK11 wavedashing is faster than MK1
IF you played a character with a wave dash yes. What about the rest of us 😅
I loved MK11 too, not only for the speed but the game is packed with so much content. Also glad I’m not the only one that feels like MK1 is slow and heavy almost.
Yeah, I played MK11 like crazy. I think I have more hours logged on MK1 at this point, but that was just to grind out the characters. I would honestly rather play MK11. I don't miss the Krypt (I think it's boring and pointless) but I did enjoy the variety of towers and especially the co-op towers. Why they cut that, I don't know.
I also just feel like MK1 is just always trying to pry more money out of me and it is annoying. I'm happy to pay for things (sometimes), but this feels like they are constantly bombarding me with "give us more money, more money, more money!" and that gets under my skin.
So as someone who doesn't follow "MK" much at all...yeah, even I've been feeling like something has been up with "MK1".
Like, I barely hear anyone talking about the game in general. And even past that, the little that I have heard has largely has been negative. Divisive story, lack of game modes, assists being unbalanced (something about Jax causing an unblockable loop at a tournament), surprisingly bad online, the Switch version, the lottery system, disappointing guest choices, etc.
And again, I'm like ultra-casual when it comes to "MK". But even in comparison, "MKX" and"MK11" both had far more buzz surrounding them even well after this amount of time after their releases. It's to the point I somewhat forget "MK1" even released not too long ago
The game is trash and there are far better offerings out there... Even going back to previous NRS games, exposes MK1 for how poor the product is.
MK VS DC was probably more fun and has more replay value than MK1 that's a sad fact. Maybe the gaming industry will finally turn to listening go back to the good old ways if a titan like Mortal Kombat falls. So I'm okay with that
There is something i have noticed the past few years that games are getting praised at launch and after a while people then go...actually it is not as good as we thought and seems on many genres, Halo infinite, New world, Diablo 4 as well as Mk1
Yep, to much pre-release hype. Then it drops, people are propaganda juiced, and then reality sets in that its really not all that. Especially the folk that paid for premium or collectors on these games.
Communication that street fighter and tekken has with their communities is a reflection of how much both developers care about their players and game as opposed to the money.....wb about the money
Not sure about Street Fighter developers but I know Harada and Murray really engage their community more.
Everyone bitches about MK1 and micro transactions but SF 6 is even worse , never gets mentioned though does it? Wonder why....
@@ryuno2097 Harada is constantly on Twitter/X sharing information and asking for opinions
And Johnny cage taunting his opponent with the middle finger is symbolic of the giant finger nrs is giving yall
Because SF6 is fucking great and MK1 isnt @@LJAndrews1986
Dude im pretty sure mk1 was gonna be an injustice game.
100%
100
The clash intros, air to air combos, fatal blow starts off just like injustice supermove. Yeah it's safe to say they switched up at some point in development...
Holy shit that makes perfect sense @@ForeverMG
I think they were testing out mk and gonna drop a dc vs game afterward
i played mk11 every day till mk1 came out, but I'm not a pro. So this maybe an unpopular option, but I personally like the gameplay of mk11 way more than mk1. All mk1 has is chip damage and big combos . MK11 was more tactical, and you could actually punish people for mistakes. My ultimate game would be mk11 but with breakers and air combos
Facts and no top tier characters every character should be equal but be differentiated by their specials and normal strings. I’m tired of losing matches simply because I’m fighting a better character
Man i agree nothing wrong with mk11
Mk11 is an amazing game
i'm a bit puzzled whenever i see lots of video stating that MK1 is more fun , yet trashes every single mechanics it added or changed , or don't even like the character roster .
@@ZarathosDaimaoh the main problem with most of the NRS games is that there’s such a huge gap between the top characters and the lesser characters. The game becomes stale because in order to win you have to use certain characters and copy and paste the same strategies to win.
20:25 I think I understand what you, and Max are saying and you may not necessarily disagree. But MK11 is actually faster than MK1 in its gameplay. However because there is more to lookout for in MK1, it may not feel that way in the moment. I went back to play a few matches on MK11, and the game did in fact feel very fast to me, coming from MK1, although still slower than MKX. The animations in MK1 are a lot more drawn out [slowed down from the first hit], and I have noticed the high number of timeouts in high lvl MK1 games as compared to 11. I remember when MK1 first came out and I sent my sister some of my footage, one of her first comments was she noticed how sluggish the game looked compared to 11, which says a lot since she barely plays these game and even she could notice that. Would encourage you to see for yourself
MK1 has faster movement speed and the pace of neutral is faster than 11s. What is slower in MK1 compared to 11 is the speed of animations which make combos feel slower.
Tom really hates mk11 so that's a big reason why he may not be able to see that. Even the frame data supports 11 being faster multiple characters had 9 frame mids . I think in mk1 Johnny is the only person with a 9 frame mid and a 6 frame d1.
@@awesometaco8001 I wouldn't agree on faster neutral, and the movement feel character dependent, but on average with block dashing taken into consideration- about the same as 11. I agree with you: the slower animations are so slow- and so many strings are 3-4+ hits whereas in 11 most strings you had 2 hits to hit confirm
Mk11 and mk1 are both 🗑️
@@awesometaco8001MK11 movement varied by each character, some had faster dashes, but the fastest characters in that game moved FAST. I’m talking wave dashing with Fujin, Mileena, Rain, etc. they were extremely fast. Idk if anyone in MK1 rivals that, maybe Johnny, but I think there’s more consistent better movement across the roster in 1, but it’s not as fast as the fastest in 11 if that makes sense.
I love the video tom but your a little to blame as well. Casual players made these complaints in season one. Your response was we suck at the game. You even made that video about competitive vs Casuals players. Now that the casual players have moved on its how do we save the game? I'm not sure but more cameo usage isn't it. Your views on the casual players gave rise to people like fate. While most people don't like him including me he was saying how the casual community felt. Pro players called him an idiot and it felt like you called all casual players idiots for not enjoying the game. If you see this comment know that I like you as a creator but yeah your a little at fault too
Good point
Actually the current sales are the same for sf6 and mk 1. Both are 3 million, the difference is sf6 still has 100k+ players on steam alone
What are the "sales" for big pharma, junk food, ꞇꜧוֹIꓒ trafficking? The "sales" are good, right?... So, that makes the products "good" too, correct?
(See what I did there? 😏)
@@shoahkhan5670 wtf
@@Rodniikun If you cannot understand an *analogy,* I cannot help you any further, and your case must escalated to a lower level service department... 😑
@@shoahkhan5670Even though i understand what you said that was a horrible ATTEMPT at an analogy.
@@Rodniikun To translate the stupid for you. He’s saying just because a game sells well doesn’t mean it good. There is some legitimacy to this line of thinking but to WB executives it doesn’t really matter.
As a HUGE MK fanboy, MK1 is the first game that made me quit playing after 3 months... The Kameo System is just bad for the game. Characters have no Identity beside pairing into some safe gimmick to win online. Maybe I will come back for Ermac since i gave em the money for it. There is soo much wrong with the polish and modes, and ye the online is unplayable.
Looking at the Suicide Squad game, seems like WB Games is the new canncer ruining some great development Studios. Guess they dont care, they got my money.
As a casual that played thousands of games online mkx. I wanted to play that many games online for Mk1 but it just feels bad online.
Mk11 is fun to me… not as much as mk1 but still I enjoy it. But I don’t play fighting games seriously besides mk games.. you’re trippin if you seriously think mk11 is the worst fighting game ever. Not even close
Glad you reacted to this, definitely interested to hear your take
Slowly abandoned by the both the casual and hardcore FGC, but instantly dropped by the mainstream. The FGC shows up for its games, even if the games all sell less combined
MVCI would beg to differ.
I had more fun on mk11 than this
I agree!
It's like a endless cycle, mk1 mk2 mk3 then mk4 made the franchise crash. Then they comes back from the dead with 3d era with huge content, cool story, great visuals, a revamped Mortal Kombat, MKDA, MKD, and MKA.
Then again they crash with MKvsDC.
MK9 comes out, revitalize the franchise like never before, huge success and i mean not only in the sells department, MK is praise again as a good fighters.
MKX follow this trend, as always with good new feature (stance), run is back, everyone like to watch the game in tournaments.
MK11 suffer from design flaws, political stuff no one care about but overall in the end, mk11 is just not the best mk, like Armageddon was.
According to what we see now right now, MK1 may be another "crash" for the franchise.
Nah bruh Mk11 is definitely faster than mk1, The first thing people noticed with mk1 was how slow it was so idk wat ur talking about
If the speed were the sum total of MK1's problems, it would _almost_ be a good game.
It's definitely a problem cause of zoning and kameos. 1st thing coming to mind is scorpion. A lot of it is waiting for the spear, dash a bit, duck the sareena, dash up a bit more, wavedash a bit more, they jump kick into spear or empty jump and grab.
Like man I'm not gonna say I'm good at the game but I also won't say it's a skill issue when you get hit by shit you react to..... because of input delay
So all these kameos make you be slow in your approach.... dudes walking back, you throw a few projectiles and you trade with frost kameo.....
And this is besides the point already but these omni-man players that you start beating up just decide to get mad and abuse the lao hat and the overhead superman so they can then proceed to teabag at the end of a round....🙄
MK11 felt faster in my opinion. Even outside charscters that disrespect neutral like kotal, fujin, kabal, Jacqui (that you mentioned). Wave dashing felt more fluid and (for lack of better term) "speedy". Characters like kollector and jax while slow could dash block far more effectively than characters in mk1. Idk if that is caused by the crappy netcode in mk1, but i think it could olay a factor.
Free NRS from WB
what about free mk from nrs?
@@imustconsultwiththeeldergo5906 This! Idk how people don't get this and try to blame corporate greed for everything. NRS is full of boomers that curate the safest character designs, still think stupid match modifiers and things like AI matches make the game fun. They didn't get the message in the 3rd game in the row that we don't give a shit. They have no idea how to make a game ingaging for casuals & hardcore players alike.
@@arch5701i dont think a lot of the veterans are left in NRS anyways. Plus I'm not sure if those working in NRS actually have fighting game knowledge they might have ideas but don't have the skill to implement them.
Your closing sentiments really hit home. Just hearing "BRO THEY UNLEASHED EVERYTHING THEY REALLY POWERED UP THE GAME!" Immediately brought a smile to my face. Im one of those people who have the FGC DNA and got love for all them beyond a casual sense and it makes me just as happy as it would a casual player. The community seems to be on the samw page with what we all want! Unfortunate that the game MUST falter before any true change happens.
MK11 needed the SFV treatment... We should've still gotten dlc content for that game and MK1 should've been released in 2025. MK1 is a watered down version of MK11 and looks and feels very mobile cheap. It's honestly painful to be a MK fan right now. It's embarrassing.
I mean, you're saying MK11 is way more boring and worse than MK1 but most of the video and what's happening now shows the opposite.
MK11 was boring at anything above a basic level of gameplay -- it was too stilted, and felt like a "linear" fighting game, compared to MKX's "open world". Having said that, the MK11 being a more or less "komplete" product, makes comparisons unfair; especially given MK1 was released in effective beta, and it still unfinished in even fundamental aspects, like online functionality, offline content, a fully-fledged roster _et al.._
I hate MK1. I played every MK since the 90s, I really love the MK franchise, I love the characters and the story. I dont care about E-Sports or "the pros" and I dont care about 50% combos. So, I love MK11 more. I really hate Invasion Mode. Its like a mobile game, its grindy and boring. I loved the towers of time and the krypt in MK11 more. I hate kamos and I hate the character designs and the god damn ugly skins, even the shop ones. I wish I could refund this crap game on steam. I loved every MK before 1. They ruin my interest in the franchise with that crap game. DLC wont save the game.
Couldn't agree more 👏🏽
It's an oddly samey slowish tag fighter. Tag games are supposed to be chaos to a degree and out of control. That's what makes them exciting
Yeah with its pace , some of us can only notice and focus on the kameo unbalance . Within a chaotic game like MvC or Dbfighterz , it's obviously there but the fun is hiding the forest , at least long enough
Your MK knowledge is unmached Tom! Keep up the great content!
MK1 is just a beta for their new injustice game
Actually, the game _Was_ Ij3, only re-purposed at the eleventh hour, due to the cancellation of the Justice League 2 film. Ed Boon admitted to as much, just qualifying the fact behind _"We'd have needed two more years to complete Ij3, and WB could not wait that long"._
@@shoahkhan5670 Would make sense with all the Super Hero characters. Its easy to assume theyre adding all these super heros to test out a new injustice (omni man, etc)
Did this mf just say cetrion wasn’t a zoner 😂😂😂 WHAT
Every char. in MK games is a potential "Zoner", because projectiles don't clash, and the all have projectiles! Heck, the characters are so idiotically designed that most are also "teleporters" 🤣
The difference between Maximilian and people who only make videos talking about how much MK1 sucks: Maximilian makes videos for a love for all videos rather than focusing on hating one, AND Maximilian said he really likes the game...
Facts 💯
Why do people have so much hate for mk11? I personally think it’s a great game with lots of content, stellar graphics and skins. I have allot of fun playing it even till this day. And those fatalities and fatal blows are violent as hell.
You are not the only one, i also love MK11.
I play that and injustice 2 more than freaking mk1. They dissapointed us
HOLD UP A MINUTE TOM...
You may not like MK11 as a "Fighting Game" BUT as a Mortal Kombat Game it's absolutely Amazing!
Being able to create 5 different variations, & create their names & make some of them MK related names & things only the most loyal MK fans know! & get! 😊.
All the different Outros & Intros I loved! And I know this stuff is more MK relevant then it is fighting game relevant....
But what can I say, I'm a way bigger fan of Mortal Kombat, then I am a fighting games... 😊
Thanks for your videos & updates Tom! Love your Content!
100% MK feels like an eternity to find matches! Especially over other fighters out there like GGS Tekken 7 and sf6, for me at least. Just sitting there to get declined or have the game desync after 1 round completely makes me not even want to waste my time in the mode. I feel like it felt the same in MK 11 as well. I know I play on PC so the player base is much smaller than Xbox and PS and there lies another one of the issues is that cross-play doesn't exist for my platform and based off of MK11 it will most likely be the same as that game. Just kinda feels bad,
crossplay will exist in literally less than a month just wait. also PC desync has been fixed forever now idk what ur talking about.
Maybe its weird to say but I feel genuinely nostalgic for the early MK11 days. Just getting to explore the krypt for the first time, unlocking all the heads to get the secret room, grinding character towers, I just miss it
damn. 50 mins? about to listen lol
Had two back to back desyncs last night in Kombat league when we were tied up 1-1 going into the final set. Online is the biggest issue.
Idk why but i am feeling nrs will drop support sooner than they did for mk11.
Absolutely. The game was rushed and is a repurposing of Injustice 3 -- facts, alone, which point to the game being "officially" dropped within 24 months; and much sooner in reality. If they are still releasing DLC in 2026, I'll dance the jig naked at the Super Bowl... They will announce "Kombat Pack 2" with the story expansion, in the middle of this year, then milk that for 12 months, as the core developers a steadily moved to another project (if they have not moved on already).
As if.
Can confirm. Casuals are not interested in juggling multiple characters. We're pretty easily overwhelmed. Just let me punch someone.
I personally don’t like bright Disney colors. I miss the dark atmosphere
Theyve made each game slower, and slower from the last every time…they only care about release sales and casuals. Never the players
Imo Mortal Kombat 9 was peak to me. I kept buying the new ones thinking that the experience would be compare to that one. It was so good I got my friends in college who don't play fightings hooked on it and actually get good. The game was complex enough and simple enough. Archtypes in that game were clear and it was pretty balanced, with the exception of Kratos. Microtransactions were nonexistent. The character roster was fantastic. NRS changes too much for no reason.
I think WB wanted NRS to test the waters with the microtransactions in MK9. Then WB told them to push a little bit with MKX. Then we know how it went to MK11 and worse with MK1.
Would've been nice if NRS took the core fighting fundamentals of MK9 and improved it with the next games. But alas they had the keep on changing the gameplay/mechanics with each game.
I better not catch any of you at the premiere of MK2 tbh 😂
Great explaination Tom, keep it up
Haven't finished the video but this narrative that pros & content creators matter less because they're "less than 1%" is false, objectively. Together, they hold more influence than any other single entity in the community. Millions of people tune in for their opinion on all platforms. This includes large youtubers and reporters outside the community.
They influence a massive chunk of a game's marketing. They have to be satisfied if a competitive game is to last.
Agreed, they're basically free advertising or better yet 110 dollar paid fgc influencers
You my friend are absolutely right, unpopular opinion but I don't think mk1 is that bad. But because pro players and content creators/influencers have been banging on that it's bad game for a while now everyone in the community now thinks the same even though some casuals actually don't have an issue with the game.
The problem MK has is it's only audience is in the west and fgc is basically the opinions of the west. FGC is always complaining even SF6 has had some backlash the difference is other parts of the world don't care and keep those games alive. So while the west tried to talk smack about sf6 the Asian Market don't care and are keeping the game alive mk doesn't have that it just has the west as an audience.
The sheep mentally in the FGC is quite bad as you said people literally hang on to the words of fgc content creators to decide if a fighting game is good on or not instead of if they themselves enjoy it.
NRS not listening, we asked for tag team, but they gave us these trash kameos…
And they locked so many fan favourite characters behind Kameos.
The first videos I watched of this I game I felt like it was unfinished. I didnt even think the game was real when all the clips gotnreleased and it was getting promoted.
Have you seen that 90% completed hidden tag mode in the game's files? That's how I imagined the kameos to be before launch, game looks fast and fun as shit.
I'll be over here patiently waiting for "Mortal Kombat 1+2"
This is going to be my TLDR take on MK1:
I didn't love MK11 but I was a top 1% player for the length of time I cared to play it.
(I am also biased to MK11 bc of all the great people I met through the game. It was bc of MK11 and the people that played it that I made it through some of the hardest times of my life)
It took me no longer than 4 days to figure out that I would not have any fun playing MK1 because I immediately could see how much kameos made the game. Yes we had more than our fair share of complaints about MK11, but I will say that even that game provided a tiny bit more in terms of gameplay than MK1. Especially in the majority of MK1 it does not seem to matter what the general frame data for characters is, we are funneled into watching kameos used as safety. Regardless of what any character in the game can do we mostly see the same gameplan out of a lot of characters in terms of how they use the kameo system.
A big complaint people had about MK11 was how the meter system rewarded people for doing nothing but waiting.....I see no difference here in this game for the most part. While meter is built differently in this game kameos regenerate quickly and fill that gap and continue to reward sloppy gameplay by keeping players safe after any "risk" they take.
While MK11 didn't offer the best creativity we've ever seen it did offer more character depth than I feel we see in MK1. I actually loved how given the MK11 climate we still saw strong communities for each character. (I was very active with the community during MK11 and I loved the little groups each character had behind them)
Obviously the top players will still find ways to be amazing at the newest game, but I feel that this game doesn't have too much in terms of gameplay to retain those players that aren't the absolute top tier.
I know people have debates about buffing/nerfing certain things about our NRS games, but given the foundation we have here with MK1 I don't feel like any amount of fixing NRS can provide will scratch that itch we have as players of their game.
These are just my opinions, please feel free to let me know your points of view
Mk1 is my first fighting game ever. I really like the online play, I think it's ok in balancing and extremely fun. I just don't get the criticisms. Of course, the game is rushed, it lacks content, net code is no good, desyncs are annoying, invasions are boring, cosmetics lack variety etc etc. But the actual gameplay, which is the only thing I care about, is great to me, I can't get enough
You just listed basically everything. Its a scummy cash grab live service shell of its former identity
1. Neglect the pro scene to pander to a casual audience
2. Neglect the general consensus of the player community
3. Ignore the entire fanbase
4. Make social media comments asking "which kameo will you be using this week"
Is it bad im having really fun playing mk1
MK11 isnt as bad as people make it out to be.
That game was slow and boring
@@tylerda282 they're both garbage, 1 and 11 put me to sleep.
MK11 makes MK1 look like a mobile game
Facts 👏
MK11 looks and plays trash comparing to MK1
YES EXACTLY HOW I SEE IT AS WELL BUT MK 1 has so many flaws as well!@@davidpst
both games are trash
@@davidpst not play you momo the amount of content it had
That is what dragon fighters did, the team made every character good and everyone just said what the channel host just said "The Game is Crazy as they just Powered Everyone Up"
To elaborate on your point around 12:00
I completely dropped this game because it didn’t have online leaderboards for towers.(or at least I couldn’t find them)
The only things NRS has to do is:
• Fix online Netcode and Dsyncs.
• Buff bottom half of the characters to Johnny/Ashrah/Geras/Kung Lao/Sindel's strength and Buff Kameos to Khameleons strength and utility.
• Offline single player modes need fixed like Invasions Mode and Towers need 5X the XP gained & koins. If not make invasions the Krypt when expansion comes out. But just increasing rewards per win so it's not grindfest it would mostly fix it.
Then they can add modes, more features, then give characters more customization & more good skins instead of color swaps. Then add 1 more or 2 additional gear pieces to have better options for customizing your characters. Kameos/DLC need more customization.
Its funny cause i played mkx the other day and i played 97 games with a guy and didnt notice a thing if i play more 10 or more games in mk1 i feel bored and exhausted i cant even watch the tournaments for mk1 unless its grand finals cause i cant stomach the game that long
Has anybody ever heard Tom use the word falter??? Ever since Max said it in the video, Tom keeps looking for opportunities to use the word himself LMAO
i agree with ur stance on mk11 🤣🤣 ive just never heard an actual youtuber come out and say it
I liked mk11 I wasn't bored at all but hey I'm in the minority . Mk1 the cameo stuff is just a gimmicky thing that ends up being boring because it's implemented in a shit way . Online I guess I'm lucky because I don't have any problems finding games but I do get the de sync which is unacceptable .
Yeah I put a ridiculous amount of hours into MK11 and never really got bored. I’m done with MK1 already and redownloading MK11 as I type. There is only so much stormcell into kano I can take before it puts me to sleep
As far as finding matches online, its crazy because on mkx, i still have no issue finding matches 🤷
Max is the goat
Great reaction
How does bro turn a 10 min video into 50 minutes
Playing the video, giving thoughts and pausing and such...?
😂😂
@@EMdemo No way you mean he actually did want a reaction video is supposed to be normally these types of videos are just people talking over the video being reacted to
It seems like MK needs to do what street fighter 5 did in the first part of the game and just completely upgrade the hole game in a patch 😅😅
Last night 240 people were watching others play MK1 on Twitch while SF6 had 15,000
What MK game ever had a true zoner or grappler?
Mkx sonya was decent, and an mkx Quan was pure zoning
They def don't know how to make archetypes .
@@Kennedys_KornerQuan was zoning but he also was a mix character Nrs doesn't know how to make archetypes .
Mk11 had Terminator as its main grappler and fittingly enough also mk11 had a Robocop as its main zoner Jax has always been a grappler in every MK game
I dont see whjy Max's video warranted a reaction video.......
To keep the negativity circlejerk going.
@@LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOMEthis perfectly summarised this dead games community😭😭😭. I don’t get why they just quit if they hate it 🤷♂️
@@slayinbigguce7455
They can't live without hating it, which ironically prevents the game from completely dying since they keep hate-playing it.
Awesome points. I know lots of people komplaining about mk 1. It's obviously gonna be better over time. Hoping for 1v1 to kome back. Then everyone will be jumping back on and praising. I'll always be a fan. Always have been since mk 1 and 2 on Sega. I totally see your points as well. Totally agree
I think i told my friend is the round thing witht the icon of the character Kameleon is tranforming should go that as timer to indicate the next tranformation is coming
I enjoyed mk11 far more than mk1. MK1’s movement is weird, the jumping is too floaty. I’d be here typing all damn day if I said everything I didn’t like about. MKX was the best, give me more of that.
Darrius takes way too long to recover!!!!!!!!
😂
Facts just wish they used the tag in system instead of cameos
I honestly don't see why NRS couldn't just make a traditional Tag Team VS mode like in MK9 and make the Kameo characters playable. Like I understand trying to make a sequel with a whole new set of mechanics to keep it interesting, but I feel like the MK11 had a better time with keeping players interested due to the custom variations, despite the breakaway mechanic being a terrible way to escape being juggled.
I beg to differ. The kameos' little life should also be a lifebar around their meter or under the main characters lifebar. It should also be separated from the characters' health when it comes to damage. If a kameo gets hit the number of times that their life is, they should be knocked out for the remainder of the round.
If you get flawless blocks, you should be able to build that life meter back up fully to bring the kameo back into play. Including nullifying damage, changing frame data to more punishable data, and less pushback. A kameo getting hit shouldn't take from a flawless victory, neither. They should give us double flawless if both remain untouched and quadruple flawless victory if you can do it both rounds.
That will bring a new level of excitement for all players. Kameos need to be adjusted upwards to be on the same level as Strker, Lao, and pre-patched Cyrax. The characters also need to be buffed up to the levels of Cage, Kenshi, Geras, Mileena, Ashra, Li Mei, and pre-patch Raiden/Baraka (I'll give my reasons on my selections later).
On the kameo having the ability to be brought back to life. In the second round, if the kameo is hit by a killing shots like (physical hits, projectiles, fatal blows into, or a classic uppercut brutal). The players should have the ability to kill the kameos, too, with a brutality to eliminate them from coming back in the possible last round. From a string, projectiles with brutality requirements, or D2s.
Some characters need hit regions adjustments as well, like Quan Chi S2 should be a mid, Scorpion, S4 should also be a mid, Tanya drill should be a low, etc. The same could be said for the kameos, too. Fatal blows need less pushback on them and should be death on block, no questions ask. Some characters need expressive freedom like reptile with his force balls not having options and taking so long to recover from it that he can't move with them on screen.
I can go on all day, especially with the reason I listed the characters I have above. If anyone is interested in that, just ask me what's up?
I really hate to be seeing that MK looking 👀 that bad 😮