Is MasterClass A Scam?
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Can you master anything on MasterClass?
BIG THANKS TO:
@SeamusGorman4
@Daxflame
@JamesMarriott
My Second Channel (2 uploads a week)
@EvilPinely
00:00 start
1:53 what brings you to masterclass?
04:16 Mark Cuban (Business)
07:34 Film MasterClasses
08:39 World Leader Classes (Bush/Clinton)
15:26 Kevin Hart (Comedy)
31:30 Usher (Singing)
46:01 Oh no..
47:01 Steph Curry
edited by Owen, my brother and Evil Pinely - Zábava
I took a masterclass in how to be top comment.
I would say that you should’ve paid more attention but I’m scared this comment will bite me in the ass soon
So proud of you
wow, I guess its not a scam
@@tobisouza1294real fuckin soon, in fact
This proves masterclass is real
Knowing that Trump might be friends with Putin is one thing, but knowing that Bush might not be friends with Putin for the sole reason that Putin didn't like his dog is something else.
He really said “we could’ve been besties…but he was mean to my dog ☹️”
Bush says a lot of actually fucked things. Admissions.
Poor Barney didn’t deserve all that 😂
I also wouldn't be friends with someone who wasn't nice to my dog
Must be a based dog then
honestly masterclass is just worth the price to hear how putin made fun of george’s bush for having a small dog lmao
LMAO George's Bush
never edit that lmaoo, george’s bush is golden
@@ames-inthe-grass i realized my mistake after the reply, but yes it makes it better
@@ames-inthe-grass he's a blonde then?
@@Fustercluck0 yes 😂
putin: "my dog can beat up your dog"
bush: "we can't be friends anymore"
both of these men are children
And both were a leader of a global superpower
No, no. He had a point.
nah in this day and age pets are pretty much 2nd class human children.
Everywhere you go, the politicians and generals are the exact same
@100timezcooler nah children are second class children. If you hit your dog you might go to jail. If you hit your kids not only will you probably not go to jail but you'll get to keep the kids you're hitting
Masterclass really does seem to be 5% classes from masters and 95% autobiographical platitudes from people who can't be bothered to write an actual autobiography.
*who can't be bothered to hire a ghostwriter too write an actual autobiography
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426Or people who have already done that and are clawing for a way to make more money with minimal effort
you mean the Hillary Clinton masterclass won’t help me become President? frick!
It would legit be a crime to not point out the insane detail in your cardboard background. I once watched this guy who did commentary and drew funny lil drawings on a piece of card board each video, he ended up being evil but this was a real breath of fresh air :D
i know right!!! i’m glad he’s bringing back the box theme in his stuff
Hmm. Does this evil person have anything similar to this content creator?
@@TheGrimbler maybe??? I wouldnt know, as i have never seen this evil individual in the same room as pinely, so its just hard to compare 2 entirely different people yknow?
I know that guy! He owes us a pencil video.
@@pl3netaryyou can take the boy outta the box, but you can never take the box outta the boy.
The surgery would be very risky, best to just leave it.
Dax Flame took his segment seriously. Should have just taken a comedy class from him instead of Kevin Hart lmao
Imagine if Sam "The Candyman" Hyde was consulted instead
I enjoyed that segment! What an awesome effort, free workshop basically
Kevin Hart's comedy class probably includes a detailed guide on how to beat your wife and get away with it😂
@@KetsubanSoloI would not like to imagine that, thank you.
@@KetsubanSolo The thing is you have to imagine Sam Hyde while your hand is submerged in cold plain cooked spaghetti, like the horror stories at kid's Halloween parties.
lmao Bush being like “yeah being president was pretty cool” and little more when he was president DURING 9/11 is insane
guy comes off as the most narcissistic man on planet earth
@@OlgaZuccati or just the dumbest. Which made it extra funny when George Lucas tripped on himself trying to roast Bush in the Prequel Trilogy
Yeah. The war on terror, the invasion of Iraq, the lies about WMDs in Iraq, institutionalising torture. These are markers of his presidency. His presidency will definitely not go down in the history books as pretty cool.
just because a work accident happened during your job doesn't mean the job wasn't sick af...
@@jaskaransethy tell that to the millions of dead Iraqis he bombed during his "War on Terror." You know, the one where they lied about having justification?
The stand up guy was actually very nice and helpful and proof that you wasted money on masterclass
Can you dumb it down for me?
@@KetsubanSolo Simplify. I don't get it. Can you use words i understand?
How's your pet doing?
@@melanora Bigger, stronger, and faster than Barney.
i agree but most people don't have a successful stand up guy to go over a joke with. Most people buy master classes because they don't have other means to obtain the information their trying to learn.
No one's talking about how funny the bit with pinely and the comedian was. I genuinely couldn't tell if he was in on the bit or trying to let pinely down gently and I think thats a product of the comedic genius
This cannot be real 🤣 this is painful, he's either in on it, or he is just the nicest guy on earth who's really trying to help the most pitiful comic he's ever encountered.
He is in on the bit. 😂
Dax is extremely earnest but he also understands comedy
Bush was talking about Putin like a lost lover😭
He did say Putin had "kind eyes" or some shite like that.
bushputin breakup arc is so sad
14:40 sure former presidents are humans too, but i found it real funny when bush started talking about how hurt he was by putin "dissing" his dog
It's also telling how petty and childish world leaders can be, like Hillary sulking over a job that she never got and Putin being a manchild about his big strong dog lmao
He shows his soft side and it’s nice but that man has ordered the deaths of so many people 😭😭😭😭
"sure former presidents are humans too" I don't fully agree with that statement, especially in Bush's case
Barney didn’t deserve that lol he didn’t do anything 😂
the way he rightly has humanity & empathy for his dog but not for the way he has ruined & destroyed so much for so many.
The only thing I learned is that a lot of people were mean to George W. Bush's dog.
That story would definitely have eased my annoyance at paying for Masterclass. 😂
i almost forgot pinely existed, got so used to evil pinely thought he was the only one
Lol this is how I figured you that this was not an evil pinely video and checked the run time.
same here
He is. This is Evil Pinely. He's been quietly replaced.
the bit with the comedian was actually better advice than literally any masterclass course shown in this video lmao
"I'm gonna teach you how to edge" -Mark Cuban 4:40
He's making the classic edging face while he says it
"I wanna do a performance at the end of this which will blow my audience" - Pinely, 32:52
rookie pay me and i’ll teach you
@@instantsus_ please put this on a t-shirt so I can buy it
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 i’m edging to this
I could not stop laughing at the Putin/Bush dog drama. Did not expect that from this video but it’s so fucking funny oml
“he dissed him” is so fucking funny 😂 justice for Barney
Putin also used his dog to scare Merkel after he found out she is afraid of them.
This proves that the funniest things are the ones you are not trying to be funny. Bush is no comedian but man that was like part of a standup
Pinely: if you named it, I sucked it-
Me: omg same
Pinely: -I sucked at it
Me: oh nm
that was my reaction too. i was like “oooh me too!” 😭
Still same tbh
it's at 69 likes & i haven't the heart to change it.
Ok but Bush being self conscious about his dog when walking with Putin was pretty funny
That George Bush dog rant read exactly like the american psycho business card scene.
Reminded of the time Werner Herzog was asked about his masterclass work and he said what he really wanted to do was start a film school to teach people to pick locks and forge documents because sometimes you need to film in places that you're not allowed to be in.
tbh, I took multiple Master Classes as a gift from an estranged rich family member, or I would have never had the ability to afford it. that said, I took the following and genuinely adored them:
-Frank Gehry (Architecture)
-R.L. Stine (Middle Grade Horror Fiction writing) [this was life-changing, included an actual Q&A livestream with just him and the twenty or so students in the class that week. it felt like being in his office talking about writing with him!!]
-Aaron Sorkin (screenwriting)
I learned a LOT. I see a lot of Master Classes that look pretty silly but there were a lot more I would have finished if I had had the time before the membership expired.
I can't believe your rich relative didn't e even let you finish the gift!
I took Neil Gaiman's masterclass on creative writing and I would highly recommend it to anyone who can afford it
@@noodlepoodle3582i would have really liked that Pinely tried the writing ones because in my heart the writers they hire are more likely to actually share advice and not just shallow self-help, so i guess ill have to save money in orden to find out, but your comment gives me hope
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 XD It was a year, I just lost my motivation so it's on me!
R.L. Stine ?? 🥺
I think any class be it masterclass or skillshare, etc. are really great for creative endeavors... but for business, money making, becoming a politician (dear God that's an awful class idea for the record) every class is useless at best and a straight up scam at worse.
I think part of the issue is a lot of real business skills aren’t taught outside university because they’re too unethical.
EDIT: I would NEVER use them, and I think a lot of these paid classes would be better if they focused on business ethics.
@@Lacewisethat’s true but practical skills are also hard to market these days. Either they are so specialized that almost nobody will pay to learn them or the skill has already been taught much better in a CZcams video. Business skills especially can be hard to teach because there’s no roadmap that says do this and succeed. And well masterclass seems to have a problem saying that it will be more like learn these skills, then work really hard, hope to get lucky and eventually you’ll be moderately wealthy. But you don’t need mark cuban to teach you that, any small business owner can teach that but they aren’t big names that draw attention. So mark cuban is relegated to teaching his extremely personalized journey to success that was 90% luck and 10% skill, and that’s not a dig against mark cuban, he probably would have been wealthy regardless but making a million dollars for owning a small up and coming tech startup is like winning the lottery 3 times in a row sort of luck.
@@sparks6177 I don’t think the second part is true. A lot of CZcams videos teaching practical skills are terrible. Sometimes because the CZcamsr is new to teaching, but more often because they don’t expect their audience to rely on CZcams videos to learn a skill. A lot of them also, relatedly, either assume you have background knowledge or that you can figure out the how to put the essential knowledge together with advanced beginner knowledge. (Skipping over “novice”territory altogether.) This quickly bumps into “trade secrets” by which I mean, things that professionals won’t tell you unless you’re in training (or, in the modern era, are reading a book or paying for a class). You _can_ still find a lot of that stuff if you’re willing to look through hundreds of hours of material and three different mediums. But not all of it. And that adds a significant amount of time to learning.
Paid services like Masterclass are meant to sort through that for you and bring a lot of those tips (that have dissipated over many year) and Masterclass specifically takes it up a notch by specifically recruiting people who are famously successful in their field and all of whom have public speaking/workshop/training employees credentials.
And even then, I'd struggle to find any mainstream skill that can't be 'mastered' (at least to the skill level you'd get from Master Class) for free from other sources. Seriously, the resources for animation, coding, music production, etc, that are available on youtube alone are insane. I can decide I want to learn some video editing for a project, and stumble on a video showing how to almost flawlessly recreate special effects from the latest Marvel movie and it's completely free.
@@NTelling This is not true, neither of these comments are but CZcams deleted my last comment explaining why and I’m not writing it out again: suffice to say, if you want to become a professional (or reach a semiprofessional level) free resources are not enough.
So this is what evil pinely was hiding behind the cardboard all this time.
As a low empathy autistic the idea of just finding empathy in a treasure chest both intrigues and terrifies me
Actually, that's how it works for everyone. You just didn't find the box 😎
As a high empathy autistic I wish I could take it out and stash it in a box for a fucking rest sometimes...
It would probably go like most items and sit in your inventory.
0 “fell off” comments in 19 minutes, spam commenters have fell off.
Thank god
Holy shit an original fell off comment
3 hours ago is crazy😭
372 likes on the comment in 6 hours. Bro fell off
@@dim5750 L you
Pinely trying to pronounce sous vide immediately improved my day 😂
i followed a writing masterclass with/tips from neil gaiman, and that worked really well for me... but it's just a coincidence that i needed a similar writing process that he uses AND he's actually very good at writing
Yeah I liked that one a lot! NK Jemisin's was really great too- I think because they're actually masters of their craft & aren't just there because of their fame (but granted I didn't pay full price for my subscription- no subscription is worth that price😭)
@@starrr365 if i was going to go through several of the classes it could be worth the price, but so many of these aren't interesting enough to watch hours of 😭
Even listening to him talk about his process is super interesting
Same here. Neil is the only writer who I can really relate to their process. That's neat seeing another fan of him in the wild like this lol
Neil Gaiman is the best
Pinely and Dax perfectly meshing their awkward sense of existence made me want a podcast with them. Absolutely perfect for each other.
Bush bro is so hurt by his dog being dissed by Putin that he probably thinks about it at least once a day lmao
Angrily yelling “you know what I did today?! Usher had me run in a park!” Has me actually crying laughing
The Neil Gaiman and David Lynch classes are great.
So... the ones given by actual masters of their crafts...
Funnily enough an author whose skill is conveying information, and a director who directs people to do things just so...
Sounds like they might have transferrable skills
Neil Gaiman's masterclass is something I'd pay for tbh
If anyone is interested in David Lynch’s class, his book Catching the Big Fish covers pretty much all of the same info but with a much more reasonable price tag than a Masterclass subscription!
I did the RuPaul and Anna Wintour one and it was such a bad experience. It was self important people acting like stuff that you can get from your crazy uncle or grandma is mind blowing. They also really pump themselves up and it is so cringe.
I love RuPaul for a lot of reasons but being a relatable helpful caring person is not one of them 😂
Wintour was born into a family with a ton of print media connections. I don't think that's teachable.
Find someone who looks at you like James looks at Pinely singing a real song after trolling for 15 mins.
I forgot how much Dax Flame makes every single interaction absolutely hilarious
That price tag made me forget about ever using master class. I literally forgot it existed
This isn't Orr anymore, this is a big shot celebrity
Thats what ive been saying
I think ultimately even if they weren't trying to make a scam website. Masterclass is something that inevitably becomes a scam because most celebrities don't know how to teach, they don't have the motivation to sit down for a long time and actually consider how stuff should be taught so the result is kind of haphazard and incomplete. And because its celebrities it's expensive for what it is.
Like with someone like Gordon Ramsay, sure he's a good cook, but you could probably learn more from an experienced cooking teacher or even as CZcams has proven, a competent home cook. We don't even need to speculate about this, Gordon Ramsay posts to CZcams and yet there are so many better CZcams channels for learning how to cook than his
Someone bought be a membership as a gift for a year- this is exactly what I found as well. The Gordon Ramsey class was good- but nothing you can’t learn for free here or in a cookbook. Just doesn’t seem worth the cost when so much cooking tutorials and guides are available elsewhere.
The blurring out of Mark Cuban's feet sent me 😂😂
big up pinely uploading at midnight when i just got home with my doner kebab
Ah love bumping into you guys randomly! Hi from Bradford, enjoy the doner!
Whats a doner kebab?
@@dannyg.4421 a dirty drunken delicacy
@TPD okay fine, I will find this and eat this. I will report back later
@@dannyg.4421 you definitely should, with ALL the chilli sauce, it’s good shit!
I don't know about you guys, but I learned how to obtain world domination from Pinky and The Brain from MasterClass.
Well at least one of them is a genius. That other guy though, I hear he's a little nuts
Actually Pinely sounded like he was getting close with that last try on singing the jook joint song, just needs to remember to push with his diaphragm.
Bruh your commentary on singing for someone and having to make it into a joke was the most relateable. Singing, like actually trying and not just goofing off, is so vulnerable.
I was scrolling through instagram with my gf when a Masterclass ad about "How to get better sex" shows up and she instantly side eyed me.
oof dude 😅
I liked how Dax built up the funny comment into a full stand-up bit. It shows how to build up to a routine, how to play with the wording and delivery.
Dax flame was an excellent addition to this video
One, I did not expect to get a Muppets song stuck in my head - I'm not mad about it.
Two, I lost it at James saying, "oh, you really don't have to do that" upon you saying you'd try another song. Truly a best friend. I hope Usher taught you the power of friendship. I know Kermit did.
I like the section with Dax. You fully nailed the vibe of a masterclass. A masterclass is like a lesson but with a very advanced teacher. The only way for a masterclass to work is if the teacher is fully engrossed in the students improvement.
orr's voice is actually nice, he just doesn't have vocal control
... yet
i love how earnestly Dax gave him advice
The music part was interesting, it seemed like Usher was actually trying but there's only so much he can do without actually interacting with a student. You have a very sweet voice and you probably could do well if you pursued in-person lessons.
Also The Rainbow Connection is hard that song requires a really relaxed tone over a wide range
32:30 I can not believe you used the title theme of the finding nemo games, and that i immediately recognized it
"if you named it, I sucked it" Pinely 2024
I find it funny that Ushers song on how to sing has noticeable autotune
Dog measuring contest.
Man, if there's one person who definitely shouldn't be giving lessons on leadership and the best way of achieving your goals, it's someone who has tried to be president twice and failed both times.
The "baby sounds" warm up, from what I know, is just something for better breath control (which can indirectly impact your voice).
moreso for warming up muscles
it's actually more complicated than that, it's called a semi occluded vocal tract exercise (aka SOVT) and helps with a LOT of stuff by basically being a way to warm up the same processes with less air and intensity than full on singing requires
The story about Bush, Putin and their dogs were amazing, I don't understand why it exists in a masterclass, but it's information I'm happy to have learned.
Why is this GW Bush clip talking about his dog being dissed not viral?! That's the funniest shit I've seen in a while.
The “billed annually” part is where it all breaks down for me. I literally cannot afford that 😂
“Putin emasculated my dog right in front of me, so I don’t like him anymore 🥺” we shouldn’t listen to rich people anymore
Dax is a sweetheart man! You can tell, he’s overcome alot of anxiety.
I feel like younger me would have been harsh/judgmental to that type of persona, and I’m glad I’ve overcome that inclination, but I still don’t understand fully where it comes/came from, some type of insecurity I’m sure. But Dax’s wholesome vibes are life!
Pinely, I think you’ve got some real potential for singing! I’m being 100% genuine. I don’t think telling people to try copying someone / a group that’s like top tier, well, I’m not sure that’s the best way to find your voice and learn the basics of singing and breathwork! You’ve a lovely voice and I want to hear it singing free 🤩
Alternate punchline for comedy attempt #1- "I was benched so much, they called me 'Bench Appearo'"
Pinley i'm so glad you're bringing your art back into your videos! it was one of my favorite things about your content back in the day and i was disappointed when you moved away from it.
I remember when I kept getting a masterclass ads that started with "It was dark in the wolf's stomach." it was about a wrighters masterclass. Then the ads suddenly stopped after seeing at least one a day for seemingly months.
Omg same! Although from what I hear a lot of the writing masterclasses are pretty good. I've only taken Neil Gaiman's class and I really enjoyed it.
First: The fact this took a month is so impressive!! Admire the work you took into making and editing this!
Second: Dax Flame was my favorite segment! You can really see the improvement around 30:00. I was definitely giggling and kicking my feet lol.
Lastly, being out of your comfort zone about singing is so real to see. I’ll scream my broken cords in my car alone 😂
I’d love to do karaoke tho. Rip to whoever hears me 😭
TLDR: No but also, yes
Bush saying "diss" sent me 💀
Love the painted cardboard background for this video, it's genuinely beautiful!!
its a little concerning how many of these entrepreneurs start their inspirational speeches with how as children they scammed people, like reselling shit for double the price isn’t impressive it’s unethical and yet they still try to peddle it as if they were ahead of their time and businesspeople in the making..
Thank you for this glorious upload on my bday pinely, its been a tough one so far, but this is AN HOUR OF CONTENT WOOOO. Im just so glad it isnt evil
AAAA happy birthday !!!!!!!!!!!!
yo happy birthday mate
@@Mushroomelixir Thank u tons :3
@@miguel7888 Thank you!!!! I really appreciate it :))
Happy birthday
loved hearing your eleven attempts at the hemorrhoids joke, thanks pinely! 👏
i have now finished the video and would like to make a correction. there were twelve attempts
seeing dax flame was such a fun surprise!!!! my worlds colliding
i love the cardboard backgrounds i want to eat them
I know right
it’s pronounced “sue veed”, it’s a cooking technique where you vacuum seal meat like steak in a bag and boil it :3c
I’m so proud of you for going out of your comfort zone. James’s adoring face was so precious 😂
This video made me think about this play I saw recently, it was a rendition of the first act of Our Town, acted entirely by beanie babies. The director, casting director, choreographer and “stage manager” (if familiar with the play you’ll know what I mean here) ended up blowing my mind, brilliant play (I really wasn’t sure what to expect sitting at a person’s dinner table with a couple friends and couple friends friends while they held up beanie babies across the table and did voices), and afterward while walking to our respective cars, one of the friend’s friends was like “man I really hate plays and I really hate sincere artistic expressions but that was amazing!” and I found it so funny that she made this conscious decision to do that. Our mutual friend asked her why she hates it and why did she come then and she said “oh it’s just so intimate when people just do something sincere, it makes me so uncomfortable but that’s why I go out of my way to experience others doing it like going to karaoke or open mics, because I could never do that.” Anyhow just a thought on sincerity.
I wrote this fairly poorly but I’m high so my apologies
that friend of a friend is kind of a beautiful person for doing that. I know what she means, I get uncomfortable with that sort of sincerity, and the intimacy that comes with it. so cool and mature of her to seek out that kind of experience anyway, and cool of her to challenge herself. I'm so glad she ended up enjoying it!! I feel like me and a lot of other people need to do the same. cynicism is kind of easy but being genuine can be very hard.
also the beanie baby showing of Our Town sounds incredible
@@blueberrybeyblade it fuckin slapped so hard
On the dog thing, I was just like "What in the neurotypical hell is this?" the whole time.
Im so happy to see your drawings and animations again. They're what brought me to your channel years ago
having dax not be in on the joke was the funniest thing I've seen all week
thank you pinely for being my bisexual awakening
"You name it, I sucked it😎"
- Pinely 2024 0:18
The cardboard background looks so cool!! Thanks for your hard work on this video
truly truly love the section of orr getting legit comedy advice, so interesting to see & experience even as someone not trying to get into the comedy scene. also i love james acaster and see a lot of his style in u (not even derivatively like. similar vibes and i love em)
actually laughed out loud that you censored Mark Cuban's feet lmao
Great video! Loved how in-depth you went and the section with Dax Flame!
Great stuff, home from the dentist (which i always hate going to) and notice a new Pinely vid 😊 Love Evil Pinely but its always awesome to have a long Pinely deep dive to watch!
The energy and work thanks Pinely and I felt the rainbow concection ✨🐸
Why did they think I care about how Samuel L. Jackson talked to his daughter when she was a baby?
Moms have been doing baby talk for thousands of years because babies are dumb and it helps them learn speech. But Samuel L. Jackson thinks he knows more than evolution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I had a 'lecturer' (someone from our industry with no teaching experience) in college who'd come in, turn on a Masterclass video, summarize the Masterclass video, then leave
that sounds terrible i hope you gave them a bad ratemyprofessors review
Was cracking up through the whole section with James, so good
You have such genuine, chill vibes and i love the cardboard backgrounds :)
damn 4 sex bots in 5 minutes new record
I really love your cardboard set, it makes you stand out and its so cool looking!
"SUE VEED"
But, you do you. Love your videos 😂
I love how sincere Dax is, what a great sport! ❤
Love your art style!
It's literally pouring down where I live and i feel like this video descended from clouds through a sunbeam.
A badass sueprhero entrance to save me from this day.
Seeing as you put so much effort in, I pressed the subscribe button twice to let you know how much I love this channel!
Love the basketball theme being brought back for the end, that was a genuinely cool thing