"What Is This All About?" | 'Woke' Music Course Addresses 'Racist And Eurocentric Structures'

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  • čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
  • Kevin O'Sullivan and Ella Whelan discuss the Royal College of Music's course on 'whiteness and racism in classical music', with Kevin questioning the course's focus on elitism and whiteness, while Ella sees it as an exciting opportunity to learn about the complexities of classical music.
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Komentáře • 119

  • @keithsewell8389
    @keithsewell8389 Před 19 dny +38

    I respectfully suggest that everyone decompress by listening to some Johan Sebastian Bach.

  • @brianmidmore2221
    @brianmidmore2221 Před 19 dny +10

    If classical music is racist then The RCM should stop teaching it. Then where would they be? You can only go so far with Reggae.

  • @jean-marcevans1439
    @jean-marcevans1439 Před 19 dny +14

    Another example of chickens for KFC. The job of the Royal College of Music is to promote classical music not diss it through bonkers identity politics. This is just utter BS. Whoever came up with this and whoever OKayed it should be sacked.

    • @joycemanning1254
      @joycemanning1254 Před 19 dny +2

      Those who wrote this ridiculous program and those who taught it should be fired!

    • @jeffsimon9594
      @jeffsimon9594 Před 16 dny

      @@joycemanning1254 I think I could find the culprits just by scanning the surnames of the senior staff

  • @pauljohnson6233
    @pauljohnson6233 Před 19 dny +21

    White Europeans were writing masterpieces performed in Gothic cathedrals that are still standing today before Africa had even built two story buildings. Before colonisation, while Stradivarius, Guarneri, and Amati were transforming wood into multi million pound instruments, African were only banging two sticks together. All that's fine, but let's not pretend there's any equivalence.

    • @kennymacdonald5313
      @kennymacdonald5313 Před 18 dny +5

      They hadn't even discovered the wheel

    • @markzvomuya8589
      @markzvomuya8589 Před 14 dny

      Typical racists drivel...its heart warming though to see the west declining through your greediness ,hubris ...soon the Global south will be dominant

  • @Thereishope664
    @Thereishope664 Před 19 dny +40

    They're all a sandwich short of a picnic.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 19 dny

      "What Is This All About?" | 'Woke' Music Course Addresses 'Racist And Eurocentric Structures 1102am 6.6.24 jeeeez...... everyone's racist in the classical world now, then? ha well.... guilty of being white is a decent statement to make these days.... minor threat.

    • @jill-ti7oe
      @jill-ti7oe Před 19 dny +3

      I think the picnic basket is empty.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 19 dny

      @@jill-ti7oe some reference to the AWOL yogi the woke police are searching for?

  • @alisoneidson2838
    @alisoneidson2838 Před 19 dny +17

    How dare things be Eurocentric in a european country!

  • @icreateworlds
    @icreateworlds Před 19 dny +13

    Monty Python couldn’t even have come up with this! 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnbowkett80
    @johnbowkett80 Před 19 dny +19

    Don't bother stopping the world ...... I'm getting off anyway . 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @ktsf81
    @ktsf81 Před 19 dny +14

    I’ll be so glad when this divisive stuff is relegated to history. It just breeds resentment and victimhood/shame. No wonder more young people than ever are suffering mental health issues and signed off work if this is the mentality that is encouraged in further education.

    • @Doutsoldome
      @Doutsoldome Před 18 dny

      Indeed. It's very sad.

    • @jeffsimon9594
      @jeffsimon9594 Před 16 dny

      Problem is a very powerful worldwide tribe is pushing it

  • @rvastrik
    @rvastrik Před 15 dny +1

    It is extremely sad when creative freedom, creative heritage is attacked. So what else makes a person a person.

  • @meljones5108
    @meljones5108 Před 19 dny +6

    Why not ask someone from the Royal college to appear to answer your questions? How crazy are we becoming!!!

    • @hudsonbear5038
      @hudsonbear5038 Před 19 dny +2

      They might of done. But like so many establishments they choose not to defend something they simple cannot defend as they know it's complete twoddle but it appeals to a certain group...

  • @joedellamura9015
    @joedellamura9015 Před 19 dny +4

    And Now For Something Completely Different 😊

  • @alfredathelstan4375
    @alfredathelstan4375 Před 19 dny +7

    defund them FFS

  • @MaggieFuchs
    @MaggieFuchs Před 13 dny +1

    They don't keep what they teach a secret, if it's not for you, then save your money and study in a place that is for you, whether it's Japenese, Indian, African, or whatever kind of music. The world has plenty of choices available.

  • @lmg7503
    @lmg7503 Před 15 dny +1

    All universitys that are not Educatnting it needs to be closed down.

  • @burgesspark685
    @burgesspark685 Před 19 dny +2

    A hundred years ago - they all had to work in the fields to survive
    and the world was better for it !

  • @ConradAinger
    @ConradAinger Před 16 dny +3

    If we play Bach, Mozart and Beethoven backwards, will they then be antiracist?

  • @ivanhowell3461
    @ivanhowell3461 Před 19 dny +4

    So let’s get rid of all modern pop and Rock as it’s based off the blues. Surely it’s all cultural appropriation. That will be next

  • @robkeeleycomposer
    @robkeeleycomposer Před 14 dny

    Love you for your support for classical music Ella.

  • @bh_486
    @bh_486 Před 19 dny +6

    Sonatas for Two Didgeridoos.

  • @RubyMarkLindMilly
    @RubyMarkLindMilly Před 19 dny +4

    Insanity

  • @Cornz38
    @Cornz38 Před 19 dny +8

    Knights in non white minority ethnic ecologically and sustainably sourced with non cruel methods satin, doesn't have the same ring about it...

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 19 dny

      "What Is This All About?" | 'Woke' Music Course Addresses 'Racist And Eurocentric Structures' 1105am 6.6.24 surely that's: knights in non white minority ethnic ecologically and sustainably sourced with non-cruelly sourced fabrics is how it rolls? ................................damn!!!! i'm dreaming of an all inclusive super contrived hyper real non denominational holiday period with some chums is a new un on me....

    • @user-nq1vs4ss9x
      @user-nq1vs4ss9x Před 19 dny +2

      "Knights" in white satin? Not "nights"? What the hell would knghts be doing in white satin? They needed proper armour - not some flimsy satin!

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 19 dny

      @@user-nq1vs4ss9x Comments on ‘"What Is This All About?" | 'Woke' Music Course Addresses 'Racist And Eurocentric Structures'’ 1524pm 6.6.24 dunno. maybe they liked the feel of the tactile nature of the flimsy material vis - a -vis touch to skin ration as opposed to clunky armour? i wouldn't mind finding myself stuck in castle anthrax with those ladies... but then i feel a repressed outlook such as mine is going to end up in giving vent to some form of sexist agenda vis- a - vis look to lady ratio... i see jesus lizard is playing again. man as much as those kids could play.... i have not decided to revisit my teen angst trauma... good luck, though....

    • @Cornz38
      @Cornz38 Před 19 dny

      @@user-nq1vs4ss9x I had always assumed from being a child it was Knights as in Arthurian legend. Dunno why, just did / have...

    • @Cornz38
      @Cornz38 Před 19 dny

      @@user-nq1vs4ss9x Brave Sir Robin would be wearing it.

  • @hugolindum7728
    @hugolindum7728 Před 19 dny +6

    Let Africans write their own classical music….IF THEY CAN.

  • @richardmccrorie5814
    @richardmccrorie5814 Před 19 dny +3

    If classical music is so racist then how does that square with the fact the mason family are happy to play it? Music is for everybody to enjoy. This woke nonsense is an embarrassing divisive disease.🤔🙄

  • @fairygrandma9127
    @fairygrandma9127 Před 19 dny +9

    😂 Hilarious!

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 19 dny +2

      "What Is This All About?" | 'Woke' Music Course Addresses 'Racist And Eurocentric Structures' 1109am 6.6.24 i bet my ding-a-ling by chuck berry gets the go ahead, though.... stalin's cultural aesthetics are back by popular demand...

  • @doctorbarbie
    @doctorbarbie Před 19 dny +1

    We dealt with this in the seventies just a way of getting in more money surely. The reason ‘classical’ music is no longer called that but rather ‘western art music’ is to acknowledge this. Indeed so with Women composers.

  • @katieadams279
    @katieadams279 Před 19 dny +3

    Who thinks up these things ? Monty Python ?

    • @johncabell3772
      @johncabell3772 Před 15 dny

      Actually I think Monty Python would have done a fantastic send up sketch on this.

  • @jac6727
    @jac6727 Před 17 dny +1

    Women were also not included in these histories because we weren’t allowed to be educated as the men were in music and the arts. Also in science, math, finances, etc.

  • @graemetonks7825
    @graemetonks7825 Před 19 dny +2

    How does this get the funding. It's the people who green lit this who we need to question.

  • @sifridbassoon
    @sifridbassoon Před 15 dny +1

    I bet the RCM doesn't have any classes on Stephen Foster.

  • @Maccaxxx
    @Maccaxxx Před 19 dny +3

    It doesn't strike a chord with me, what the hell is going to be racist next ?, breathing ?.

    • @hudsonbear5038
      @hudsonbear5038 Před 19 dny

      Don't joke!! they will say Whites are greedy as they use more O2 and says it's white privilege due to colonialism lol

  • @johnbowkett80
    @johnbowkett80 Před 19 dny +3

    'Curries against Racism' ..... 🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @DessieTots
    @DessieTots Před 18 dny

    My God the heat and those infernal drums beating, beating, beating. When will they stop.

  • @stanbewick2685
    @stanbewick2685 Před 19 dny +2

    This young lady is a gem!

  • @curatedcolour7084
    @curatedcolour7084 Před 12 dny

    How about they teach a course on how, despite 200 years of slavery in the US, the African diaspora managed to change the world through the creation of Jazz and blues, which has lead to a whole range of incredible genres like soul and and rnb and pop. So much positivity to be taught and instead they focus on this.

  • @eddiegilbey3846
    @eddiegilbey3846 Před 14 dny +1

    So what is the point of the Royal college of music? If not to learn how music works and studying the best examples. I enjoy blues and jazz. I also enjoy classical orchestral music and opera. Music is music and it complements poetry and dance. It’s a varied art form. It’s not carved from stone. It exists in the head. And is an entirely human art form irrelevant to animals and plants.

  • @d.d.4703
    @d.d.4703 Před 11 dny

    Rap music surpasses the classics and will be around when the latter is long forgotten about. Remember the rapfest at the concert for the 95th birthday of her late Majesty. Didn't know she was such a fan. Was no doubt played by royal request so she could 'bodypop' at Windsor Castle. The BBC didn't disappoint her.

  • @rickaccordion5900
    @rickaccordion5900 Před 14 dny +1

    I wonder how these non-whites would feel about this course: Lang Lang, Yo-yo Ma, Yuja Wang, Sarah Chang (just to mention a few). I'm far more interested in their insight vs. some 'crap' created by a diversity manager (who is most likely a white woman). Aperently, it's only an elective, until Labour wins the election.

  • @iancourtney2983
    @iancourtney2983 Před 19 dny

    Thank you young lady 5:28

  • @raymondelf7520
    @raymondelf7520 Před 19 dny +14

    i just laugh at the word racism lol

  • @morganbartfield5457
    @morganbartfield5457 Před 19 dny +1

    well the western world has only got itself to blame for inventing the piano. if you'd stuck to the penny whistle and gazoo this would never have happened.

    • @rustshoo5068
      @rustshoo5068 Před 19 dny +1

      Yes, it would seem the Western world should never have bothered to provoke the Marxists by being so creative and inventive and artistic.

  • @callumkenmuir2825
    @callumkenmuir2825 Před 14 dny

    Japan, China and Korea have enthusiastically adopted Western classical music and have produced many wonderful musicians. Many Asians study in Europe. As for black people, in general they are not interested in classical music and very few study it, though nothing stops them from doing so. Highlighting skin colour by the RCM is racist in itself and serves no purpose today.

  • @andrewwillgoss8604
    @andrewwillgoss8604 Před 19 dny +3

    Marxism

  • @glennmoreland6457
    @glennmoreland6457 Před 17 dny

    "Wagner"
    Sounding great as always...
    😐🇬🇧

  • @stevemarshall4822
    @stevemarshall4822 Před 16 dny

    Perhaps it should stick to Music.

  • @jeffsimon9594
    @jeffsimon9594 Před 16 dny

    I thought Macca and Stevie sorted this matter out in the early '80s??

  • @kellykreqeli8924
    @kellykreqeli8924 Před 19 dny +4

    Absolutely pathetic

  • @user-gc8pc3ol6l
    @user-gc8pc3ol6l Před 16 dny +1

    I'm Sikh and love classical music esp. Shostakovich and many of the 20th century greats like Mahler, Messiaen. Western classical music by it's by very nature is bound to be Eurocentric and 'white' dominated. It should be appreciated for it's own inherent qualities and universality and as the most complex form of musical expression created by humans. All this sheer wokery and so called colonization of mathematics, literature is just another race grifting pile of nonsense. It's depressing the way this country is going with the tail being wagged by a small minority of lefty loons.

  • @diananorth9619
    @diananorth9619 Před 13 dny

    Are they studying Classical music in terms of the genre or the era? If you're looking at the era, most western classical music was written predominantly white men and women. Doesn't make it racist. The classical genre (style) spans a much broader range of times and composers and has developed over the centuries.

  • @d.d.4703
    @d.d.4703 Před 11 dny

    Maybe trainee doctors should do courses on how white men made the medical breakthroughs of the past, saving millions of lives and easing terrible pain. Don't concentrate on their achievements, just that they were white. Male dominance in everything was how it was in history. It cannot be undone. But, Mary Seacole was the exception - she was the founder of modern medicine remember. Perhaps a more relevant course would be the study of patriarchal socities today, starting with lslam and going right through the third world. You won't find any in the west.

  • @brunumb4914
    @brunumb4914 Před 17 dny

    🙋‍♂ I don't care what they told you in school, Beethoven was black. 😜

  • @yvettedavis2256
    @yvettedavis2256 Před 19 dny +1

    What a load of old bongos

  • @jancaulfield3549
    @jancaulfield3549 Před 12 dny

    All music has different messages

  • @user-tu5ej5lg2c
    @user-tu5ej5lg2c Před 19 dny

    It's a wind up.

  • @lilygal4975
    @lilygal4975 Před 19 dny

    OMG are we going to change the colours of piano keys next because its offending. I sick of having to self fladgullate for our culture. Its STUPIDITY IN ITS HIGHEST FORM. I DESPAIR AT THE WORLDS MAAAADNESS!!!!!!

  • @iancourtney2983
    @iancourtney2983 Před 19 dny +1

    Corns that was funny

  • @reilly-vc1rm
    @reilly-vc1rm Před 6 dny

    Don't like it? Leave.

  • @denise4487
    @denise4487 Před 19 dny

    🙄🥱

  • @paulshorney3465
    @paulshorney3465 Před 14 dny

    Aaaaagggggghhhhhhh 🤢🤮

  • @metgirl5429
    @metgirl5429 Před 19 dny

    😵‍💫🤪😳🤣insanity🤪

  • @kennymacdonald5313
    @kennymacdonald5313 Před 18 dny +1

    What a load of bullshit

  • @ortacreef8557
    @ortacreef8557 Před 19 dny +2

    It's just a stupid left wing virtue signal.

  • @rontaylor995
    @rontaylor995 Před 19 dny +1

    What aload of crap.

  • @peterarmstrong2048
    @peterarmstrong2048 Před 19 dny +1

    What a load of bs