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Everything Wrong with Gundam Battle Operations 2 [PC]
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- #gundam #gbo2 #ガンダム #ガンダムエボリューション
I find it funny google thinks this is a mobile Game
Intro 0:00
Network NO work 0:24
Pay for Cake Analogy 2:53
Gameplay is Gudders 8:17
Gunpla Contest 12:53
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ABOUT
GBO2 is a free-to-play team battle action game based on the "Mobile Suit Gundam" series of the Universal Century. Whether by land or by space, lay waste to your foes using either your favorite Mobile Suit or roam the battlefield as infantry and capture important objectives.
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"Kampfer has the best counter, change my mind."
Most 4 stars units: aight, bet
Schuzrum Galluss: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be LEGENDARY
Dolmel: Amateurs...
@@tbc1880 byarlant custom: bitch, you challenging me? Watch me flip
stay out of range shoot legs watch it limp then kill it. end of story
A few points I’d like to comment on:
Pay2win: Although some units are pay2win, Atlas, Unicorn units. I have few good high cost units, but I still do relatively well. B/c most people I fought spam melee which makes it easy to counter and fight them.
Stun and unit intricacies:
Assuming you’re just starting the game, think of gbo2 as a fighting game when it comes to mechanics, skills, weapon details(shots to stun, cd, wtc). Especially when you’re starting out, try to play on the safer side unless you know what you’re doing. As you said, you’ll need to goto training field to test out units and weapons. Imagine each unit as a character in smash bros, you won’t master all of them. However, you need to be aware of what they’re capable of, which means you need to experience fighting them and reading their skills, stats, weapons, in various situations.
Unit levels and their usage:
Although you’re put at a large disadvantage when you’re playing units of lv 3-5, imo it’s better than a unit you’re completely clueless with. Of course, there are cases where your first game with a unit will turn out well b/c fundamentals never fail you, but at higher costs the amount of skill of both the unit and player skyrockets. So, I’d recommend only using lv3-5 for cost 500 and lower matches.
Again, you’ll have a different experience and will need to adjust(take all advice with a grain of salt). Aside from that Bandai please fix your network.
levels also level up the cost, so aside from some 300 cost level 4 potatoes, everything is pretty leveled out.
the problem of gbo2 is that its super laggy and poorly optimized
Nope, netcode & cheap servers are the real issue
@@fabamatic
It was both
Im playing in 15 fps
GACHA cringe
This is why I still play Universal Century Gundam Online, sadly still after all these years the only true PC Gundam game.
My experience as a console player: Honestly PS4 matchmaking has its problems too. It’s nowhere near as common as on PC, but it’s not perfect on console either.
Also there are multiple instances of getting hit when you are supposed to be behind a wall. And don’t get me started on the counter timing. It’s at least nearly as bad as on the PC port.
I personally don’t feel like the monetization is that bad, but I can totally understand people who have a problem with the fact that a lot of suits are pay to win.
The gameplay is fun, but the stuns can be incredibly annoying. Also a good amount of matches can be very one sided with one team getting steamrolled often.
Lastly, supports have it rough. Especially if the enemy team has stealth suits. Pixy, Black Rider, Agguguy. ESPECIALLY Agguguy. If you’re a support and you get meleed once you’re going right back to spawn.
um achktuslly supports should fear the zee zulu because haha funny scuba wolverine make hp go bye bye
memes aside
heavy attacks
heavy attacks are the enemy of all
that and suits w guaranteed topple melee
those are absolutely high fucking priority
Only raid I truly fear at low cost is schruzum gallus
@@Murdocktopus no need to fear it it’s inevitable
same way efreet raids dominate lower cost matches
or the silver haze
As a GBO2 player on PS4 who submitted mutiple complaints and suggestion to Bandai Namco, I am glad the PC community is giving the game mass amount of negative reviews because the way the game is designed make it very hard for non-hardcore gundam fans to enjoy let alone the fans that keep on playing it hoping for the better. As I told a Bandai Namco representative, PC gaming is held to a higher standard that the bs they pull on console barely tolerable. If the game wants to do well on PC it has to be updated with community feedback and hoping said feedback with improvement get extended to the PS4 version as well.
Also add skill based matchmaking. I’m tired of getting into a lobby with ultra try hards that 5v1 a guy with low health
I could not agree better than this because pc's normally have better hardware than a console because every time I boot up the game I feel like I'm actually right there hearing my mobile suit launch (honestly I'm suprised my game runs fairly decently, I have an old ps4 and internet trasmitting from a tiny chain of islands in the middle of the ocean), and if the computer version was up to a well playable standard and unlocks the higher levels of potential it has we could see so much more come out from this game.
@@imconfuseddl1436 Its not just hardware, but things such as PVP instead of dedicated servers or a broken inconvience system that does not encourage teamwork, communication, or even separate the weakest and strongest units in a cost level.
Me too,
Already veteran about 4 years now 😂
I really loved this game on ps4 but after receiving a 5 day ban from game disconnects I had nothing to do with I'm pretty damn bummed out, its insane how the servers claim I have a 3/5 connection on wired fibreop internet when no other game in my steam library of 400+ titles has ever given me more than 60ms ping to its servers lmao
I know a group of players who made bot accs to review bomb the game. Some of the reviews look familiar so I think it could be them.
Why tho?
I understand the game being bad to some people, but making bot accounts to just negatively review bomb a game is just so ridiculous.
bots or not as a PS4 player the game has alot of design flaws such as not encouraging teamwork nor objective gameplay, a unbalance cost system that allow advanced MS from mutiple conflict eras to be together in a match that older MS get curb stopped regardless of pilot skills, infantry and vehicles are under used, and PVP system is trash.
@@Tom3744 I agree
@@DarthT15 some just hate the game for its poor system and design, it’s understandable but also unfair for the dev team seeing as they always release something new each week, which is more than evolution.
Really funny watching someone who's never played GBO2 talk about it. Nice video.
Mood
What PC gamers are experiencing now is exactly how the game launched on PS4 all them years ago, all the same problems, don't expect it to get fixed anytime soon either.
For me the game works fine 98% of the time after the maintenance. 90% of the neg on steam right now are from day 1 when the severs weren't working for a lot of people. And there is a disturbing amount of people that are on wi-fi and are surprised when it's a problem. And can unit 5 equip any other beam rifle? I don't have an encyclopedia in my head for this game yet.
In game? the G Unit 5 only gets the Hyper Beam Rifle and a Hyper Bazooka. Outside of the game? I'd have to get back to you on that.
You are wrong about wi-fi
You clearly know nothing about networking. WIFI is NOT a problem when it comes to gaming noob. WIFI adds minimal latency, so little latency that it isn't even noticeable.
@@user-xh8ot6xm5w The poor that can't afford a wire dose not get to speak.
I completely disagree with the levels thing and “pay to win”. I feel like the developers have down a great job optimizing the units based on their levels and add skills and stats to MS the higher their level. The GP02 is a good example. They recently buffed that to where a lv4 GP02 is a competent selection in a 700 cost room.
And pay win? You have to know how to use the MS too. You can have a really strong unit but if you don’t know how to play the MS a lower tier MS can wreck you if it’s being controlled by a skilled player with more experience.
Let's not forget that all the units evenutually come to the DP store where you don't have to roll for them and can buy them outright with currency you earn and a certain rank requirement which also offers a decent progression in the terms of untis you get.
are you dumb how is this game not p2w when newer unit has more tool to stun you or has way more skill and has more advantage. THIS IS A GACHA game if you say this is not p2w you are just biasd
Damn agree
Its not pay to win actually
Even you got very good units
Its still need good execution
Some sweet builds at the end.
Thanks for giving your honest opinion on the game. It's tempting but not one I'm going to play just yet.
Go ahead and jump in. If your net connection isn't a potato you'll play it just fine.
@@skvltdmedia is more of a time thing. I move in a couple weeks is why I'm not going to start it just yet lol
Get ready to get owned by veteran players
I dont know how long you've been playing this game, but man, so many hot takes from you.
I do agree gbo2 has problem for newcomer, sometimes newcomer gets bullied to the point where they cant move at all till they die (its called stun lock, its a team effort from veteran player, the only way to get away from this is either emergency evasion or ypur own teammate interferences)
But 1st point, this game is not pay to win, 700 cost unicorn is still shit if you dont know how to play, and when you get to A rank players, you will see even less unicorn player now. So no, this game is not pay to win, yeah sure its got good MS skill, but its a team game, unicorn cannot do shit if gets bombarded from support MS. Your comment is the one common beginner's mistake to play this game. Do not play solo. This is not like COD where you can solo all the way to the end. Every weapon has a downtime. There is also 3 type relation between type, advantage hit more and disadvantage eat damage more. So raid slashing support hurts like hell.
2nd point, high lvl ms still has its merit. I dont know how to prove it to you, but maaaannn I fucking love play the standard GM lvl 5 in 300 cost. High level ms has lots of parts slot. So I pumped the range attack. With beam spray gun from distance, 300 cost MS mostly balistic defense, so pyuhpyuh hurts like hell, especially to raid MS lol.
So no, its not useless. Generally up to lvl 3 is still user friendly. Lvl 4 above you need to have deep knowledge how to use the MS. I used to play with Super Gundam lvl 4 in 700 cost and still very good to use.
3rd point, not a gripe, but more like sharing, generally you should test the MS in free practice first before join the match, because.. as i mentioned in the beginning, sometimes the veteran being bully, you get stunlock due to your inadequate knowledge to the MS you use.
At the end, Its nice that you still enjoy the game with all the hot takes you have lol. But please do not mistake this game like super fast paced COD style. Every type has its role and the game really emphasize team work. Support stay back and snipe as much as you can. Raid go hunt support. General be the tank, protect your Support and do not disturb your Raid.
Other advice, you guys dont need to chase kill. Just stagger your enemy as much as you can, especially the one chasing your teammate. This all are the basic advice for beginners, from here your match will become much much much enjoyable. Good luck and have fun. And yes, steam version has a lot of homework, still a bit heavy and not smooth enough.
see u get it
all points i bitch about to people fucking constantly
your comment is def from someone whose been sitting at a-s rank and knows the struggles of randoms bs latency and understanding suit knowledge and experience matter
I mostly agree with you. I'm a new player, playing on pc. I went into the game with low expectations, mostly because of it being a port and having gacha mechanics. Now, the server's instability and performance issues can't be ignored but there is a very unique and interesting game underneath those problems. Like you said, I don't find the game pay2win; MS with 4 stars are good, but not really enough to win on their own. I never lost a game and felt that it was because the other team simply had a better MS. High level suits are also not useless, especially if you are very used to them and play them well. My friend is playing MP Guncannon at cost 500 and doing fairly well.
The game is very punishing, and I've been victim of the stun lock team gank you mentioned more than once. It can be annoying but I do understand that it's usually my mistake or simply being outplayed by the enemy team. The game is pretty tactical after all, and victory really depends on the entire team working together, covering each other's weaknesses and exploiting the enemy's.
I'm surely biased as a Gundam fan, and having such a wide variety of MS you can play and customize really helps increase my love for the game, but the gameplay itself is enough to keep me interested, although it's certainly not for everyone.
Yes also a little bit of advice to new players as well, don't jump into high cost match straight when you are still a rookie, in 700 cost match I saw a lot of new Unicorns and Phenex pilots simply has no clue what they are doing and in the end gets stomped by players, you are better of sticking with low cost match like 250-500 match, learn the movement and weapons loadout for each MS is important as well. Also learn when to engage and disengage as well
@@StalkRay animation/boost cancel is the biggest thing to learn in this game for high tier solo play oh and proper wep swapping w hot swap and swap cancels
u wanna make the most out of downing an enemy or wanna juggle them this is key
Matchmaking failures.
Their netcode is trash.
They need to improve their netcode or make separate servers for Asia, US, and Europe.
just dont say that on the subreddit or get ready for “DUR ITS PLAYER HOSTED”
yeah cept all the servers being in japan means the game pick’s hosts usually closer to them so they get better latency and ping to the main servers while u all get shit connection to them and the match lol
its a shit system period
@@Nomadic_Gaming If it is player hosted that means it is peer 2 peer, no servers are used. Learn how networking works. It can NOT be player hosted & server too.
Gundam games just seem to be inherently cursed no matter what platform they're on and GBO2 is no exception. Besides the matchmaking/network/server problems, people definitely hate it a lot because of the stun mechanics that I keep seeing people complain about, and that on top of it being a gacha. Some also say it's even pay-to-win which is not entirely false but not entirely true either. Hopefully they'll actually properly optimise and fix the game or else it'll probably die off like Gundam Evolution did.
Perseverance coupled with a Goal can make it possible to supercede that "Bad Matchup". Knowing where to apply your MS's strengths and how to disengage with opponent's. Now finally RESEARCH the MS's weapons and skills before committing your ingame zenny, you dont earn much per match early on.
I love this game too but the penalty by blaming us when they messed up is real BS.
Wasn't aware about the P2w factor is that bad, but I've been in a grunt match were i was wiped out by brute force. Also the lag has had me countered after successfully hacking twice and gave damage too.
Gbo2 is hardly p2w.
Half the time it's a suit like the zee zulu or schuzrum gallus that absolutely fucking slams you.
Yeah I was going to say it really isn't all that p2w. You can't really get anything that's drastically better through the supply drops. I've been topping the scoreboards without spending a dime.
I pulled Banshee and Unicorn in my first 10 pull.
The free one or half-off one? Because there you go.
@@skvltdmedia The full one
@@Jikuri Still. Free gacha, per se, got the "best" pull.
I agree with some of this video. The networking and matchmaking is terrible, the ui is too. But to be honest, "pay to win" is a bit much. Sure you can buy tokens to have a *chance* at getting better stuff, but it isnt guarenteed. You also cannot outright but stuff with tokens, same with parts. Only supply drops. And yeah, newer suits are better, but you could also just not play at that cost. Playing against a unicorn or a banshee is painful, but i can 100 percent guarentee that the unicorn will lose a 1v2. Just play with your team. Player skill will top pretty much any suit. And if it doesnt, coordinate with your team to get an advantage, simple as that. Hell, iv ebarely even seen any unicorns, or banshees, its all been the kshatriya. Which is good, but not as good as the other two.
The problem with not playing at certain cost is how randomize the cost match system is. I don't like how I open up both rated and quick match to see 450 plus cost matches on one day and have to wait 2 hours for a refresh to get the cost match I want. Plus ground combat is much easier than space due to the latter having most of the overpowered futuristic MS that if all you have and play are older MS from the One Year War era than tough luck.
You can test a suit, and "refund" it
buy a suit (doesnt work on gacha) then go to testing ground and if you dont like it alt+f4, you can go to training ground without the game auto save for you and if you alt f4 the game wont save before you close the game too.
Great video a tip for you though: Some Beam Rifles especially the older ones have to charge before they can stun. You were firing your Beam Rifles a little early on the unit 5. Also give the bazooka a try on it, make securing the stun easier for you, and unit 5 favors close to melee range over mid to long. :)
The fact that this game already had network issues when it was on console, informed me of what to expect on PC.
I love GBO2, but it's a very bare-minimum effort title.
About the 4 star thing. The only DOMINANT 4 stars are phenex, the sazabi that released on console just recently, sinanju, banshee, and Kshatriya. All the others are mostly just solid. 4 stars are not THAT op, and there's a lot more OP 3 star units in the game that just do something absurdly stupid. Like Black Rider, White Rider, Red Rider. Units that specialize so hard they dominate in a specific area. There are plenty of units that work well in the 600-700 range, and there arent any 4 stars that are NOT 700. Strategy matters much more than just throwing a bunch of 4 stars at your enemies.
"A cake isn't complete without frostings or toppings"
*Inhale*
Cheesecake, Poundcake, Chocolate Lava Cake, Coffee cake, and thats just off the top of my head.
Also, fair criticism, not totally wrong, but if they have it so you just 'click to select' then they're gonna have to further nest all the customization menus somewhere else, and you you decide you want to take a suit out for a match, but haven't put parts on it yet, or haven't painted it yet, or someone is dragging their heels on customizing, you're gonna have to go more menus deep to work on those. It does have a purpose.
so so so many things wrong w this vid
4stars are not pay to win
you can pay for a step up which garauntees one when those come up sure thats whale stuff and it comes w whale optional parts yet
they arent pay to win
you can get a new 4 star and still be trash and play like shit or your teams brain dead and u still lose if you are decent w the suit
the whale option parts
none of them are required and the only one that most call a must is the psycho frame because funnel lock on times which is a limited number of suits and really it is nice but that part constantly gets put into bonus option part pulls or step ups
the rest are all very very specific
overtune parts give u more of a stat based on suit level which side tangent rq the idea of only using lvl 1/2 suits……
lmfao
no
higher level suits get way more slots even w less skills it allows them to really stack on stats and compete with a few cost range exceptions 500-600 being that range where its a lil iffy
700 lvl 4/5 suits are some of the strongest suits because massive slots for parts and simple strong kits and high stats
back on point the only one of the overtune series that is worth whaling and i have them all is heavy armor given the sold all def boost u get w lvl 3-5 suits but u can live without it its just the one id say among them is worth getting most the dmg ones are ok but not needed the hp walk speed single def ones are all meh the thruster one is ok too has uses
the other whale parts are psycho frame which is only something u use w funnel suits for lock speed
psycho pack which idk what it does i have it no one uses it
educational computer is next whale part
its ok u get dmg up and dmg taken down and it increases its bonus halfway thru a timed match which is decent but not mandatory
latest whale part gives bonus based on enhancement levels which hitting the top level is a ton of dp mechanic cases time and hanger time
so its not mandatory and benefits people w maxed maxed suits usually long time players
so yeah option parts whale wise not pay to win at best pay to help higher level suits have nicer part options
last tangent on pay to win
only suit ive ever seen that was p2w was launch unicorn
that thing was so fucking broken anyone could be a menace with it
now not so much although it is still strong
also lets talk the idea of the code fairy sidegame unlock suits being pay to win since yall will get them eventually
they all come at one cost
they are unique
they are decent to one or two being great but only in great hands
as for 4 stars being better then other suits and star rating being an indication of power
lmfao
no just no
theres plenty of suits who as suit level goes up w cost go down in rarity and still maintain being extremely lethal
and theres some suits bb really needs to not have at their base cost because they are busted as fuck (S gundam and mass production zz are 600 cost monsters and the MPZZ is a fucking 2 star btw its a fucking absolute monster of a suit u learn it you are gunna fuck shit up)
the worst gatcha shit is alt weapons
sometimes they dont even mention one being available in banners tbh
but alot of alt weps for specific suits when they drop are awesome and usually 2-3 star which makes pulling them fucking hell
thats the scummiest gatcha stuff they do and thats not p2w but whale or get lucky to have a suits full weapons to play w (its primary gun or melee alt weps nothing sub wep wise as those cant be changed)
the argument for lvl 1/2 suits at cost btw is because usually most suits do best at those ranges but as i said BB loves making higher level suits get new skills stats and slots lately
the hyaku shiki buff made the 700 cost one actually useable dmg wise again where before it was just a zippy outdated but tanky raid
now it can chunk people
as for the stun melee meta
no one likes to discuss it save me and crazies but chain stun and team shooting is the real meta
team work and focusing down people will snowball matches fast and just because u have melee doesnt mean u need to melee
if a suits melee stat is shit and u have a kit full of guns
at best stun then knockdown then shoot dont try to second downswing your melee dmg is ass vs your gun dmg and kit so be aware of your suits kit and general design play to its strengths
i agree w you about suit testing
we used to have buy stuff w tickets or dp then u could go practice match only and just hard close the game since practice didnt save on start
idk wtf they undid that but whatever we do need suit and weapon practice before u buy/spin i 100-% agree
tackle/parry is ass
get ready for jp players to have s for days when they shouldnt and people crying latency
no its bb giving them better shit tested this w a buddy who has a korean acct and jp account like actual ones so he could get gundam games us doesnt have (breaker 3)
jp have bullshittery out the wazoo hit detection and boxes that are bullshit as pilots and extended melee reach in suits or extender effects (ever notice them have w ground to wave effect after a downswing on certain suits u dont have that hits u miles away that isnt latency its bb and bandai being anti western xenophobes)
so yeah also dont expect any jp players to be banned
ever
even if they throw and get kicked repeatedly
they do not get banned period
it’s a myth and they will throw they will play like shit and give up when a match goes south
you’ll quickly see the difference in west vs east players its a night and day dif w the exception of eastern sweaty players being sweaty trash snd over aggressive
or gods who carry and need to be focused
learn how to not play like a scrub who sees suit types as classes
not all raids are melee rushers and some are ranged based mid liners some are flankers
same goes for gens some are ranged and dont do well in the frontline some are rushdown meant to flank or break a line not hold it
not all supports are snipers and even if they are stay w your gd team somewhat or risk getting ganked
most supports do well staying w team and focusing stuns snd dps
one or two are scrappy enuf to actually go for stun melee knockdowns cuz of balancers and decent melee so they can dip into frontline to help control it and then back off
like i said learn ur suits
dont let an enemy team spawn trap u hold fucking beacons
take beacons
or die your choice
dont treat the game likes its cod and just kill hunt
play as teammates save each other then back off and do not leave a 2v1 cuz the enemy could kill whoever u leave behind because i didn’t wanna risk not getting killshot
its a team game
winning matters
not ur kills
losing but first place in the match score wise still gets u rank points lost so dont be dumb
latency can fuck u so dont get caught crutching on dodge rolls
maneuver armor and boosting out of a shit show if u can meaning not being melee juggled is something u should always learn as some suits gen and raid have MA but no dodge and supports ur fucked so boost and pray
also boost and spam tackle try to get a counter
but crutching dodge roll will hurt u long run use it if u got it but if u can escape a situation without burning it dont burn it
ton more tips i can drop but my rant about shit u said wrong is over and idk why i went off on a tangent over pointers for people
the game does have lots of issues hopefully pc review bomb makes them wake up and fix it because under the problems is a fuckin fun gundam game a really good skeleton and structure that works pvp and pve which we need some of honestly
Man this is the most sktizo comment I've ever had I appreciate you bro
@@Axelottol69 its only skitzo till u start seeing the bs man
like i said had i not tested it w a buddy who has authentic jp and korean psn accounts i woulda kept thinking im nuts but its not latency its fucking bs
now that its on pc i wanna see someone get ahold of the full game code west and east versions and dig around and see if theres any other home team advantage bs
ill say this btw get ready to enjoy when u run into full blown cheaters tho
since u can’t report enemy players and gl w them doing jack even if u send clips of it to them
ive seen people on console straight wall hacking infinate ammo and thrust altered stun buildup values on themselves allll sorts of bs
its not common but u run into it bb doesnt do jack about it
ive seen pilots insta arm bombs shoot rockets back to back while arming a bomb and have s while arming too just allll sorts of scummery
skitzo takes and experiences asides
the rest of my rant still holds true
a 4 star in someones hands who is ass wont make them better then a good player running their enhanced 2 star lvl 4/5 stat stacked suit and a god tier player can be sacked by trash teammates even in the most meta bs suit
rn unicorn is pretty strong and newbs can be a pain in it but also just as much to their team as the enemy its probably the only 4 star id say can be considered close to pay to win its mostly pay to have a crutch
look at 4 star supports
dag took bloody multiple buffs to be decent to solid in good hands
kshatryia is a floating target who gets carried by its frontline period
and the sazabi ff is actually really solid if played right but it can also get delted by any half decent raid
ezz is pretty nasty if u learn it otherwise it is not newb friendly same w the zaku 4 ip
those are the best 4 stars rn and atlas and they all need good pilot skill to use right
so like i said no pay to win just pay to skip rng
i will say hopefully pc gets a catch up so the whale custom parts are available to ya
they arent must have but they are nice and situational otherwise most are dp and rank which tbh rank locking custom parts and a few higher level (not used often or at all) ones being rank and recycle ticket shop only is cancer that is scummy gatcha shit u didn’t mention
the fact the RT shop and the medal system is bs
why are some parts and suits that are rt only never in rotation less u have gold/plat medal? it’s exploitation to make u wanna shell money out or go brain dead grinding out custom matches for monthly missions
Even if the game didn't have networking problems and didn't have stability issues I still just don't really like how they've structured the game. I understand they need to monetize a "free" game, but the lack of PvE like you said makes it terrible. I also just don't like the nonsense mismatch of mobile suits. I would have preferred lore friendly matchups (or mode) like EF vs Zeon. Back to PS2 games for my Gundam fix, I guess.
for me, GBO2 had become SO much worse after the zeta gundam era onward started giving suits more and more easy access to stagger leading to MORE of the stagger melee or worse yet, stun locking, let me tell you, there's nothing i hate more than STUN LOCK!! i'd rather get killed by barbatos in gundam evolution a thousand times! than to get stun locked ever again in GBO
that and the fact that if you dare to play a support your basically dead in the water all because supports are the slowest suits in the game and they don't have access to the dodge and the counter is kinda jank, so if you see a raid or general coming towards you and you are staggered, you are as good as dead at that point.
gundam evolution isn't perfect, but it's the MUCH better game in my opinion.
the only time the game is poorly working is before a match while playing inside a match the only time I see issues is if another player has mcdonalds internet and that happens in tons of games.
The only thing this dude is right about is the bad network connection on PC everything else fool of shit.
Its pretty good now for matchmaking
Except clan server cannot be used
I agree wholeheartedly. For all the decent gameplay loop GBO2 has, everything else is literal dogshit that I don't want to drag myself through just to have matchmaking fail on me the entire morning and have to hear "gOoD wORk oUt tHEre!" Literally only played 3 custom matches the entire morning, and I gave up, uninstalled and went back to G-EVO and MBON. These two games work, which is more than I can say for GBO2 for the foreseeable future.
5:03
The only time I use MS with a level higher than 2 is in 300 cost for the Zaku 2. At 300, the Z2 is level 5. It has a chunky amount of health, but basically no skills.
Jokes on you, I'm using Gyan and win 8/10 of the matches SIEG ZEON
every full charged shot in your video caused a stun... right after saying it didn't.
Use your vulcans on the MK2, you gotta fill that 6 seconds
No one going to mention the Glitch that made not only me but a lot of people not even be able to test the game on a match,when you are about to start the match,after the pilot enters the suit and roll out,when the loading screen starts the game just refuses to load in the match and crashes,thus causing the free ban situation,training mode works fine though,i literally didn't even manage to play with other people because of that,it's just so bad.I Wouldn't consider the game that pay to win too(i already played GBO2 on my friend ps4)
Alright, but somehow getting those 10-15+ second charge times and eating someones health bar in one shot *muah* peak dopamine
I'm going to argue the Pay to win. I have the Phenex and Unicorn on steam. I got both of them for finishing daily missions and using the free tokens to get the drops. You can get good mobile suits and Gundams by just playing the game. Along with that even if you have one of the top tier units it doesn't do jack if you aren't familiar with it or know how to use it. Like I said I have the Phenex and Unicorn and I get my teeth ran every time I sortie in them because I don't know what I'm doing. The same can be said for the lower end units. If you're familiar with the unit you're playing you can dance around the higher end units.
I'd like to add that yes it can be pay to win because buying the ten rolls gives you a boost to better drops, but my point still stands. You can get the good suits by just playing and if you're not familiar with it that 700 point Unicorn is going to get it's teeth ran in by a 600 Dom.
yeah gacha unit is p2w it's 0.5% for 4star some just luck on boost campaign
@@oratank a boost of 0.5 percent. Wowza. Might as well give the suits for free at that point, am I right?
@TheHatGuy bro even a 4 star gonna get it's pockets run by the average 2 or 3 star
@@theneef174 Exactly! A 4 start has all those fancy gadgets and gizmos but are useless unless you know how to use them.
"Supports are pretty bad"
Wot? Supports are baller! Thats (Mostly) the only class I play, and I tend to have a good top 3 (if not top 5) play of most matches.
Its all the matter of Playstyle :3
I was one of the people who got banned for a day, I think a full day ban is too much after TWO disconnections
Dude that 4 day ban is just basically bandai saying go frck yourself. Its like they don't want people to olay the game. I've gotten a 4 day ban twice now due to sudden disconnects. 4 DAYS IS EXCESSIVE!!
I dont agree with the pay to win thing, dont wanna fight Banshee dont que up for 700? 500- Are more fun anyways.
agreed! Some of my most fun matches have been 550 or lower. especially the 300s. actually feels like just grunt suits battling it out.
been playing this game since it came out on ps4, lovin it to the end. Bugs & all 😆😆😆
But except those terribly players and get you lost sometimes
the game run silky smooth for me, did take forever to get in a match tho
I totally agree with you. This feels like a ps2/ps3 era game with its messy and laggy ui. It doesn't help the fact all I get is loading simulators every time I am trying to play a match which could revolve around me getting into the matchmaking menu and then choosing a suit in that laggy menu to be kicked out into restricted lobby after a long ass loading screen and then repeating the process for a long time before being slapped with a one day ban. I totally couldn't stand the gameplay of stunning and waiting for cool downs for everything.
To those saying this isn't p2w with noobs losing with 4 stars, as Axe said, the fact that these 4 stars are there in the game based fully on pvp is exactly how mobile games with pvp with gacha systems are exactly p2w with power creep and newer suits outclassing the older. Your arguments of inexperienced players not knowing to use 4 stars are irrelevant when suits keep getting outclassed and power creeped by newer suits without any balance changes or patches. Cope harder please.
Uh, powercreep? My guy, 4 star suits are always on a similar playing field, it's not like a new 4 star like the sazabi comes out and the last one is useless. The unicorn and banshee are still top picks. And other suits like the nu gundam, or the enhanced zz gundam are still really good. And yeah, if you suck, having a better suit wont save you. That's just how it is.
Thank you for mentioning Planetside 2 and giving this honest review of this game
well surprisingly the game is quite smooth on a rtx 4070 laptop
I hab unicorn :D (got em after 10 single rolls)
This was not an acceptable launch. I hope they can fix the stability issues because the gameplay is good.
Bandai should listen to the reviews. Statistically GBO2 has more players than Gundam Evolution they should fix the issues fast.
Fr and 2 failed PC games does not look good at all
Man even on PS5 it’s almost the same with the match making it’s crazy how you have to wait and at times 80% of the time it fails lol I like the game but mannn do they need a overhaul on all platforms. I agree with you sir.
I wouldn't want to call this game too p2w, the custom parts give minute bonuses and cost slots. If I can wreck a Unicorn with a Zee Zulu or even a lvl 3 Zock in mix-up. Though I argue the higher rarity mobile suits are about as balanced as a can of salt, as in poor balance.
Well,i enjoy it A LOT.
And i've so bad connection that i can only play against pc. BUT I'M HAVING CRAZY FUN!!!
Really missed gundam seed destiny on my ps2. That one is the best gundam game of all time
One time my sazabi and nu were bugged. The nu was missing its head and sazabi was missing its legs and lower arms
match making only fails when you are in the D ranks which sucks because the hackers make it so you can't climb out, so space battles are pretty much a no go, I got to C in ground but like it seems like its times of day when people are on using hacking software and I mean, it makes the game so unfun when its just cheaters playing cheaters, I can bet lots of kids are getting hacks for the game and saying they just have them to combat the hackers, but they don't really need them, like if the game was not Gundam it would probably have a better userbase of beyond 14 year old boys.
Ngl hackers on games makes me wish i had a console to play the game
The problem of gbo2 is how slow everything is.
Help me,every ms is focusing on me to kill me,what i do?
The PC Port is what the PS4/5 has to deal with on the regular, but amplified. I refuse to touch the PC port until everything is fixed. Probably means never will be played since the Devs give little to no cares except for what is in your wallet.
I agree with the first part of the video and most of the gameplay related things you bring up but I don't mean to be rude but you sound like you never played gbo2 till pc and its not the suit that matters nor is it the lvl of the suits it is the player I have played for years on ps4 and have tried the pc port which is not worth it but I can not agree with you calling it pay to win when it is not.
The ban feature from network alone is questionable, why??
I don’t agree this is Pay 2 Win game… I play this for years on PS4, I keep token and upgrade slowly. Now I am so strong without spending money 😮
The network is absolute trash. I’m sitting on a 5 day ban right now because my game got dc’d. The gameplay loop is great but I can’t tolerate such awful network combined with unjust bans in conjunction with progression throttling since you are in “penalty” mode once the game lets you back in
For me if people want to stop to play GBO2 for a while until server issues is fixed is a good choice. But in my opinion, even though you want to stop GBO2, don't forget to log in and grab those rewards. If you not collecting those tokens now. You will regret once there's a limited banner with your favourite MS.
GBO2 has already been out for almost 5 years a this point, how long will this pc port last before Bamco decide to shut it all down in favour of GBO3?
interesting to see a new player perspective. i dont think i need to go on an essay tangent to explain anything, seeing as the comments are filled with them, so i'll just give my 2 cents on the game in general. very fun game, but unfortunately plagued with issues that can't really be fixed so easily. a lot of these issues come down to the game's core decisions or age, which can't really be changed. frustrating stun/melee mechanics, performance, and UI (the latter is sooo bad on pc) all stick out to me. however, i think the joy of the game comes from the fact that so many suits are viable even though its a gacha-type game. like, outside of 700, or 600 lobbies with atlas or something (screw atlas btw), the difference between suit performance isn't actually as big as you'd think. and even then, buffs/nerfs regularly happen (for suits of all rarities, costs, and levels), so strength disparities are lessened. for example, both gp02 units have FLIGHT now, and god, its so cool. if you ask me, now is still a good time to get into GBO2, because the server issues, while still horrendous, are lightening up. and there's not much reason to worry about meta as a new player because you will be matched with similarly ranked players anyway, so starter lobbies, with the current player numbers, will be completely fine to learn in. just, uhhh, yeah, it'd be nice if the devs were more active about fixing level 3+ suits... some are playable, while others are complete utter garbage, and even then, you preferably want the high level weapons, which a lot of the time, need to be rolled in the gacha or in daily crates.
just hoping the game will work well and people can actually enjoy it, and hopefully by the time i can play it will already have been working and have a thriving pc community
What they should've done is either improve the servers or just make a new game and improve on everything
This game is pretty good on ps4, sadly Bandai doesn’t know what cross play is so I can’t play with any pc friends. But I have found that in gbo2 it is really hard to get a good team. I literally had one game where I looked at my phone for one minute while I was getting ready to sortie and almost my entire team changed to supports. So you can imagine how that game went. But gbo2 is a lot of experimenting with either amazing results or stun hell. My main tip in this game is to find a mobile suit with good stun and a special melee animation.something like efreet nacht.
Game runs perfectly for me. Been playing gbo2 since release on ps4 and played gbo1.
No issues so far on pc all max settings rarely get connection issues
Consider yourself lucky
I have never heard someone be so wrong about so many things😅
The game is laggy but when I get into matches I have no issues at all. I played a bunch with my friends recently and haven’t had issues like the ones you’re mentioning. The players teleporting thing you mentioned happened once, but if you’ve played the PS5 version I’d say that’s a feature at this point
Yeah, to me it feels like they should have made a more refined "GBO3" for PC, but this game is great fun despite so many problems and all the monetization thrown in your face. I appreciate the selection available to free players, and the ability to stay out of the gacha whale tiers.
2:20 oh hey, that's me!
The servers are so bad that playing ballistic centered suits are just not worth playing. I've seen direct hits from a bazooka just disappear into the void doing no damage. Melee aswell, Direct hits, no damage. meanwhile i get hit by saber slashes from miles away or hit by bazooka shots while i'm behind cover.....
The game works about 85% of the time for me, though connection issues are really a big gripe I got with this game.
I keep getting involuntarily disconnected mid-game, and because of that, I get penalized with a ban on Ranked and Non-ranked matches .
The worst part is the players everyone thinks they are a fucking gundam pilot goes in trying to 1 vs 3. Then you have the players so desperate for kills 3 people will try to kill one person while you are being gang raped.
No one no knows the meaning of teamwork, strategy, or holding a defense position.
My favorite part is when your team is about to win and all they have to do is not die and people are still playing aggressively the last 30 seconds end up dying causing you to lose the match
After all this I still enjoy the game tho
This game has quite a bit of problems but you definitely got some shit wrong in this video. The first one being about Unit 5 BR not being able to stun. It can stun if you charge it, which I didn't see you do once in this video. Granted Bst's does take a ridiculous amount of time to charge up, though he was added in the game before everyone had a 0 charge stun weapon.
switched to using a vpn and have had no problems finding games :)
I hope they fix the game I would hate for them to take the game off of steam
Game is lots of fun. I main the dom tropen and gm cold district. Enjoy low cost unit rooms, as i try to avoid whale fights (not a fan of gacha, i did roll a unicorn from the free gacha bs but its as mint as an unopened action figure).
But yea, agree with pretty much what you said. Matchmaker is rubbish. And the npc greeting : good work out there after 100x just gets on my nerves. I had to mute her until the match is found.
lol im one of the folks that got kicked from a game... decided its time to sleep... wake up next day to a 4 day ban... 2 more days go to ....
👏 👏 👏.....word of the wise PLUG IN YOUR PLATFORM DIRECTLY TO YOUR ROUTER. then watch as wifi-connected players drop from games! randomly
raids/ generals/ supports/ are equally good you just gotta not play shit and be a good ally to your team
There are more general and raids than there are support MS. When the raid and general type can tank a direct explosive blast to the legs when charging straight at the support unit then that is bad game design when the game rewards reckless frontal charge instead of stealthy flanking. Support types are slow and have little to no close range defense that they are heavily dependent on their team who often abandons them.
The game is designed on individual kill score count for the overrall team score instead of rewarding players more for teamwork and objective focus such as bomb planting and defusal along with beacon capturing. Most players even in the A to S rank do the same dumb shit which is rush off on their own being kill hungery instead of being supportive and tactical. This led to a team being picked off one by one as the rest get outnumbered and surrounded.
@@Tom3744 yes i know how the game works i've played it for like 2 years now but thanks
I really want to love this game.
But seeing the horrible hud + FPS, awful server connection and DC = Penalty (Oh boy, I thought it would be like Gundam Evolution penalty/ban, nope much worst), I can't...
...Also can't recommend this game (ATM) to my friends or anyone when I found out that they only focus (Some reddits) Japan server and monetization style.
My only complaint with GBO2 is the Connection, Frame Rate, Post Processing and Graphics
First off the Graphics, my Laptop can literally output the Graphics similarly to the PS4 Version and yet somehow in PC it's much worse and it can't even output it to medium settings causing a lot of delays
Second is the Frame Rate, even with the option to set it to 60 FPS it still runs like it's running on 20-30 FPS which is incredible and somehow dumb, like I mentioned above the specs of my laptop are just as good if not better than the PS4
Third Connection the most obvious, I'm not sure who is handling the Servers on Bandai's Side but Holy Crap I haven't seen such awful connection since 2009 on a multiplayer game
Fourth is the Post Processing this basically affects both 1 and 2 and they couldn't even handle that part right, cause of Bandai and BB Studio's Handling of the Models they aren't loaded in properly too
One the p2w, I'm going to disagree. Allot of the 4 stars are meh, and a whole lot of the absolute best units are in the DP store (such as the GM 2, GM3, MK II, Jeagan, and all fo the GP units.) The only tier that I think could be even slightly argued to be pay to win is 700. (Which is not ok, and needs to be fixed, but that's a specific issue).
On the seeing what units can stun or not, you can see all the weapons. And each weapon will tell you if it 'suppresses' (aka stun), or heavy stun. The only thing that doesent explain it is biuld stun.
Other then those 2 points I think this video is pretty darn spot on unfortunately...
Well after i play this game for 2 days i decide to quit even i like gundam
The match making of this game is quite... Hard to swallow , people just took their fav unit n don't care about role . It like play LOL with everyone want to go mid or top lane , 1 of the reason i quit LOL
I feel that you really need a mix of good units and not all of people's favorites are good
@@Axelottol69 i think what i need a match making filter , for example when i pick a unit with support role then the match making will let me team up with other players who play raid n general role . The point is a team with ballance of a role , not too much in 1 role or there no 1 play tat role
armless Unicorn
and honestly, Blue Destiny Gundam Unit 2 is Hella fun for 400 cost 👏 pure melee nuke 👏
I dont know if its just me but i think the failed matchmaking is exaggerated and i run smooth fps no stutters or anything. I do get failed matchmaking occasionally but only slightly more than ps4. I think that they should definitely fix the servers but i dont think the game deserves the horrible reviews its getting.
Oh boy yes, yes it does deserve its current standing.
@@HoloGuise7928 other than the network issues why
They could have made better Gundam shooting game , but seem like bandai is too stingy on budget or maybe they was too invested on that Gundam skinned Overwatch clone game that they didn't have any budget left for this game.
I missed the old good mobile suit gundam online which bandai keep making it JP server exclusive. to the point of IP block/ban that even banned some real japanese player on random.
I would disagree with the banshee or unicorns as you need to know how to play them
days of bans? meanwhile on Gunevo, its only 15min ban lol
Oh man, someone doesn't understand this game whatsoever......
It's a gacha game and Bandai offers plenty of free tokens for daily missions, but anyone and everyone gets equal chances at gacha draws. And just pulling a higher level suit does nothing until you /master/ using it. Just having suits and gear here doesn't do you any good.
Just about every suit is viable at every cost level if you /know how to use it/. There really isn't much of a meta. If you have 3 supports and enemy knows how to use their raids - they will nail your entire team before you even know it. Match ups are blind and make for dynamic battles.
Net code is fine after a week of devs actually caring to fix it unlike many AAAs. It's pretty playable as of Saturday.
And to this day its to-date a properly done mech game that isn't just an Overwatch re-skin to be a shameless cash grab.
How much time you can invest into a massively online, unique game? As much as it takes you get good at it to enjoy it. It's not some lazy re-skin nor a mobile game, so there will always be a learning curve.
no wonder why its not on other consoles XD
Servers? What servers?
They should have continued development on GBO Next instead of this. But since that game got canned I guess this is the only one eh.
GBO2 was subpar to begin with. Bad netcode. Pay to win mobile suits. Bad matchmaking. Bad balancing. Latency issues. Greed. On PC all those issues just become much worse.🤣
A month later the network connection is kinda fixed at the expense of three-fourth of population, and some say the connection got better because of that player decline
The gameplay isn't as good as the PlayStation counterpart since the update is months behind from it, some MS are still OP, some are mostly useless, while on PS they have been patched
Although the game is still fun to play, even just to look at badass MS models, I can't help thinking we witness the end of service in a few years
But hey, still better shit than the actual worthless garbage called Gundam Evolution!
also the Start Dash campaign is going to get expired in a few days
No newcomers will come, the game is starting to cease being on PC
"matchmaking failed" irks me.