You've missed out several upgrades. They've been up gunned with an additional 24cell Sea Ceptor system, replacing Aster 15. So now they carry 48 Aster 30s and 24 CAMMs. The recuperator doesn't work properly, causing catastrophic failure in warm waters This is being fixed with the PIP, the Power Improvement Program Extra diesel gen sets, bigger ones too.
A PLAN Type 055 Destroyer with about 120 milssiles can easily take those Darlings out of the water. Only 8 anti-ship missiles? The 055 can carry dozens of air, land, and anti-ship missiles. Its radar and battle management system is far superior too. 8 anti-ship missiles is a joke. Even PLAN missile boats have more firepower to sink ships.
@@dyong888 Probably but the 055 is a cruiser, this is only a destroyer. That's like saying the Type 054 is no match for the Type 45, of course it isn't, it's a frigate. Both the 055 and the Type 45 are AAW ships, mostly carrying SAMs. You sink ships with aircraft and subs, not other ships. The Type 45 is almost exclusively for SAMs A significant difference between them is technology level. The 055 still requires a dozen individual radar systems to fight and navigate with. Right now the Type 45 is the top of the tech tree with only 2 radar sets, SAMPSON, the worlds most advanced target tracking radar and supplemented with data from the S1850M, an advanced 3D volume search radar which has the ability to detect stealth targets (using low frequency radar) and high and far track for ballistic missile defence. Combined with Aster, the worlds only hit-to-kill SAM family, Aster, which flies at damn near hypersonic speeds (an unclassified Mach 4.5) it is second to none. But it will _always_ lose if you pit it against two enemy ships, won't it? And you know what's worse? When stupid idiots Xi and Putin go around _pointing_ them at us and each other because it makes their pp hard. Pathetic little men who wat to rule as God Kings. Sadly I think the day will come when they realise that just because WE also have guns, there's a difference between invading and repelling an invasion. May their pain and humiliation serve as a lesson to all who come after
The Ministry of Defense has listed the status of each of the Type 45 Destroyers in the fleet. “HMS DEFENDER is currently deployed as part of the Carrier Strike Group (CSG21) while HMS DIAMOND has experienced some technical problems and has been separated from CSG21 for maintenance, inspection and defect rectification. HMS DARING and HMS DUNCAN are undergoing extensive planned maintenance. HMS DAUNTLESS, the first of the Type 45 destroyers to undergo a power enhancement project upgrade, is expected to return to sea for trials this year. HMS DRAGON is undergoing a period of planned maintenance ahead of her new operational commitments.”
from someone who has worked with the Type 45 programme since 2003, some of the comments on capability are hilarious...just goes to show, you really know.......nothing
Recent articles indicate that the Type 45 is having significant problems remaining at sea due to power plant failures that may require all ships of the class be overhauled. Today, it is reported that all 6 Type 45's are presently in port due to power plant issues and are unable to go to sea during the Ukraine crisis. If all of that is true, then the Type 45 may be the best anti-aircraft ship, but if it can't get to sea, then it doesn't really matter.
Well womp womp it’s use around the Red Sea has proven all of these comments, well wrong. It is one of if not the best ship for its role, and has been doing very well
For many years, years, Years. this type has been plagued by breakdown s in its propulsion systems. The real problem is the Royal navy accepted subpar engineering and construction from the company that made and installed them!
the idea with any warship, best or otherwise, is that you can deploy it to sea to do its job. Trouble with the type 45 is that the engines dont work. 6 vessels (most of the fleet) are currently in dock having their engines replaced. The estimated return to service of most is ‘by 2028. 2028!!! So there’s nothing that can stop the type 45? True! Seems like its hard to stop something that’s not going anywhere.
This video seems based on the manufacture's pamphlet. It doesn't provide any insightful particulars of the class. The primary deficiency of the Type 45 class are they were too expensive. The Royal Navy could only afford to buy six when they needed at least 12 vessels. Twelve Type 45 escorts would have been adequate for escorts for the Royal Navy's two new carriers if the Type 45 displayed the reliability that was predicted. However, at the present only one of six are available due to constant propulsion issues. Moreover, the Type 45 doesn't have enough missiles for modern warfare. It was announced that the destroyers' anti-air armament will be enhanced with the addition of a 24 cell silo for Sea Ceptor surface-to-air missiles. This is scheduled for the 2026 to 2032 period. The Aster missiles are used by few navies and few ships resulting it being uneconomic to keep a production line going with continued updates and new missiles. At their core, modern combat systems are vastly complex software. The United States Aegis system is used by many countries and installed in dozens of ships. It is constantly debugged, improved and tested. It will work when required. The Type 45 combat system is so few in numbers that upgrades and realistic tests are hard to afford. It is questionable if it will work when the missiles fly. Finally, the Type 45s don't have Cooperative Engagement (CEC) installed. CEC is a force multiplier that would make up for some of the deficiencies of the class. The British should have purchased the USN's Aegis system and the SM-2 Block IIIC, SM-3, SM-6 and Evolved Sparrow missiles. It would have been cheaper and would have worked when needed.
SM-3 is a must, while SM-2 and SM-6 are redundant and overprized. SM-6 being around $4.5M per missile while SM-2 around half of that. Raytheon should make a naval version of the SkyCepter missile, derived from the Stunner missile used in Davids Sling that have similar range to SM-6 but flies faster at Mach 7.5, while only being around $700k to $1M each. SkyCepter should be around half the prize of SM-2, plus its already been fielded into current Patriot systems in Poland.
@@johnsilver9338, As far as I know, SM-6 cost so much because it attempts to be anti-anything that moves (small, and large ships, missiles, planes, UAVs, birds shitting on your boat) while the Stunner and Barak 8 are mainly anti-air of all sorts without all the radar thing and warhead required to be effective against the ship. The main thing I don't like about the missile is that the 1st thing it sinks for sure is your own economy unless you are the US.
@@nirharpaz1 Actually, even the US Navy wont use SM-6 unless Tomahawks prove inadequate. Tomahawks are only at just around $1M. I get that SM-6 is to ba an all-rounder, but the SM-2 to be more than $2M when a Stunner missile has better performance while being cheaper. But even then SM-6 dont even have infrared homing so its price is not justifiable for its performance. Do the US just straight agree at whatever price tag Raytheon drops at their face. Maybe congress should look into this.
Not just the engines. 2 x 20MW main propulsion has harmonic voltage distortion (19-21%, 4 x NATO STANAG limit if 5%) and common mode voltage in kV due to her Converteam MP VFDs.15 years on, has this been resolved ?
Wow, 17 years, they still seem so new. Type 42s lasted 38 years and it's just a fact of the military in general that some of the hardware struggles to stay online. Just imagine the moving parts of a destroyer and the amount of maintenance they need. The Type 42s I served on had their problems but those were seen to in good time. The Russians are a bit different. They have a habit of mothballing ships and under maintaining the ones in service. Maybe a hangover from the Cold War and their fleet being too large to operate. The RN should be bigger fleet wise that's for sure but i think good effort is put in to keep what we have in good shape. Still good reason to be proud.🇬🇧
yup and they sailed it into Russian waters and almost got it destroyed. That was a hot moment and not the smartest move from Britain unless they just wanted to test the Russian response and it was not well. They where not a fan of british warships in their waters
@@patrikjakobsen2142 1, not in their waters international water's. 2, They sent aircraft after it not submarines subs are a big threat to this ship, planes are not
@@dyong888 Ohhh we're so scared, NOT. china's stuck in it's own waters surrounded by the us and it's allies having made way too many smaller type 054 frigates than it can afford to maintain whilst building more capable ships like the type055 theres a reason the us's main ships are bigger tico cruisers and Burke destroyer's and not perry frigates and Freedom LCS's. Mark my words buddy China is going to realise that it's smaller frigates are no match for american ships and have to mothball them early to pay for larger and more capable ships in smaller numbers so when the USN reaches it's planed 350 ships by 2035 china will be picking up the pieces made by the mistake of building lots of frigates which made the American navy's acquistion sector get it's act together and stop messing arounf with ships like the zumwalt to build more capable ships like the ford, constellation and the new destroyer they just announced. In 15 years Xi will realise that the propoganda of "largest navy in the world" wasn't worth wasting resources on ships incapable of taking on 30 year old burkes and haven't even resulted in more ships than all of the Aukus or quad or just the us + japan making it an embarrasing failure to say the least. I mean now when you look at AUKUS which is what you'll be fighting you have less ships all of which are less capable Also you clearly aren't an aussie or a brit because then you'd know it's POHM's for prisoners of her majesty not pommies which makes no sense i mean what are you calling them prisoners of majesty?
@@zenko247 Its 2.8 mach speed means that it cannot be intercepted by existing missile defence systems (even s400) and its precision makes it lethal to water targets. Although BrahMos was primarily an anti-ship missile, the BrahMos Block III can also engage land-based targets.
The Intercooler and Recuperator are part of the complex gas turbine cycle and give up to 27% efficiency gains at high power demands. WR21 can use up to 60% less fuel than older gas turbine designs such as Olympus across the power range.
They may be well armed, but every one has and is still having engine issues. At the moment not one is operational and all are in port undergoing repairs.
they are not even "well armed" .They are equipped with 1970s expired Harpoon missiles...and dont even have Torpedo tubes to ward off enemy subs, which is a basic capability in any Frigate/Destroyer.
There's no real competition i'm afraid. The UK one is under armed even for its size, the Chinease is on par with the US over-packed ships and is also X2 in displacement compared to the UK one. It may be worth to compare it to Chinese/FREMM frigates
@@nirharpaz1 Yes that's true. The darling class is more comparable to PLAN frigates. The Darling class helps keep the english dreaming about empire.... the murder, drug trafficking, the mercenaries, the gun boat diplomacy... all supported by the royal navy and sanctioned by queen victoria. Today the darling ships will be blown apart with a single hit from PLAN hypersonic missiles and go straight to the bottom. Its compliment of 4 slow, short ranged, lumbering, and easy to shoot down Harpoon anti ship missiles is laughable.
@@dyong888 basically every country with a navy has used gunboat diplomacy. Basically every country with/without a military has used mercenaries or currently uses them. And despite what people believe the empire did more good than bad civilising and bringing Stone Age societies into what was at the time the modern era. Almost like the lack of a strong democratic power intervening in africa has let it go awry….
it carries 48 missiles but can track 1000 targets that leaves 952 targets heading your way,saturation attacks are the way forward there is no ship that can defend against that no matter how much you spend.
Now the GT alternators have been changed and the wartsilas are out im pretty sure theyve fixed 90% of the issues. It was a shame to see all 6 laid up in pompi... as far as im aware most of them are back at sea now i know daring, dauntless and dragon are anyway
It's a lot harder to hit a ship than you think with a long range missile no matter how fast it is especially one that shows on radar the size of a small fishing vessel with its stealthyness, they don't keep still and it has great electronic warfare systems too as last line of defence along with the phalanx Plus after reading up the brahmos is slow AF anyway... Asters way quicker so no it couldn't even if you fired multiple at once
A country that spends more on military than social development? Why would you want to sink an allied ship when it should be China you are worried about?
@@dezrigby6649 if you have seen vids of BrahMos tests, it has a CEP of 1m. In other words its accurate enough to hit a window. And Phalanx? you can barely see BrahMos, it travels 3 times the speed of sound. Good luck with Phalanx
@@alfiemarsh1774 The Chinese are well in check. They will not mess with India unless they want another bloody nose. How about India starts focussing on getting grabbing the thieves who stole and looted from them for 200 years? ;)
@@rohitb5834 well the brahmos's speed is mach 2.8 and the type 45s 2 types of missile aster 15 mach 3. 5 and aster 30 mach 4 5. It can also fire and control more than 30 missiles simultaneously and the missile systems are being upgraded even more so.. There is no chance in hell that one of those missiles would get anywhere near.. Might struggle against torpedoes though as its really for anti air only
Can anyone tell me up to what range a cruse missile launched from a ship can attack another ship. The missile need guidance from the ship right?? So its certainly has a maximum range that it a hit right??
It depends on the missile. Every missile has it’s own specifications for range, warhead size and max speed. The manufacturer will make some of these specs available to the general public. To make things more complicated, a missile will have many evolutions and versions over the decades that upgrade these specs. The general rule is that ship launched missiles have a range from 75 to 180 nautical miles. This is way beyond the horizon for any ship. Modern missiles have a navigation computer, maps, gyroscopes and GPS guidance that will guide the missile to an area of interest and a combination of sensors to locate targets and engage them. The idea is that a ship can tell a missile to go that way and attack and the missile can use a radar or other sensors to locate and engage a target of interest. If the ship and the missile don’t have satellite communication, then the ship can’t update the guidance beyond a range because…physics and geography. So the missile navigates by itself.
The Range is mainly governed by your ability to find then track a Target - if you can do that and your Missile has a 500 mile Range the 500 miles it is.
The "Daring" type is the most advanced ship the UK has at its disposal because it was build to detect earlier air threats and its comunications platforms are the most advanced the Navy has as today so the United Kingdom needs more of them to strengthen it Defences.
@@sourabhgupta4853 yes though one problem all say less vls less vls I want to say that first brahmos is very large and bulky and second we still don't have a perfect vls system. But come on we have stealth and having 16 brahmos is better than 32 tomahawk and with Barak 8 I must say Barak 8 can destroy tactical ballistic missile and it has a long range of 150 km and we have a dedicated anti submarine suite also
@@saishaktipanda let me add another fact. This ship doesn even have Torpedo tubes lol. Vishakapatnam has 6 533mm Torpedo tubes and ASW rocket launchers. It has the best ASW capability in the world. Even other Western/Asian destroyers have 324mm Light torpedos with inferior capabilities.
A very big call to suggest that nothing can stop any naval ship these days. Given that anti ship offensive weaponry has by far outpaced the defensive weaponry of the most modern naval ships. The Navy used to be considered the safest military arm, but not anymore.
After ten years and new upgrades to weapons and engines etc, and still not fit for purpose, if it all kicks off with Russia i think we need to keep all our ships well out of the way!
I don't really get it. It's a 7800ton ship! The Israeli 2000ton Sa'ar 6 for instance carries 56 long-range AA missiles, cannon, large heli, 16 anti-ship missiles and still got a spare room for torpedos and 40 extra interceptors (Iron Dome) How come this flagship carries 8 harpoons and 48 missiles? the size doesn't add up for me. The 1000ton Sa'ar 5 carries 32 AA missiles, 8 Harpoons, and a medium-size heli, no gun. it's about 75% of the armament on a 1/8 size ship. Now, I know that Israel is famous for packing its ship to be armed as f**k, but even compared to the US Fremm based frigate (about the same displacement) and the Korean and Chinese ones this ship seems a bit lightly armed IMHO.
Ships that try to do everything end up doing nothing well. Also, tons of explosives stored on board are a bigger threat to survivability. the RN knows what it is doing. The ship was underarmed in the beginning, due to budgetary constraints, but is now improving. Originally it was to have no anti ship until needed.. that is because it was supposed to do one thing. Shoot down planes and do it better than anything else afloat would do.
The submarine defense may be an issue for the Type 45 from what I understand if they become deployed in the South China Sea... It is pretty clear given satellite imagery in the region that the Chinese fleet has been "semi-covertly" mass producing submarines ever since 2017. They likely tend to keep their submarine numbers concealed in case a conflict starts in the region. Still, the British have substantial Naval warfare experience and are unlikely to deploy lone destroyers lacking in escort submarine defense and surface defense ships. They would likely keep sufficient distance to prevent excessive risk from the NBC attacks, but also keep sufficient coverage as to defend the Type 45 via area denial from within their approximate proximity.
@@EmperorLionflame No need to send PLAN subs. Just salvos of anti-ship missiles, hypersonic ones, DF antiship ballistic missiles will make short work of it. Even PLAN missile boats carry more anti-ship missiles than the Darling's 4 outdated and slow harpoons. With PLAN those missile boats travelling at high speed, anglo subs will find it extremely hard to keep up.
@@EmperorLionflame I'm glad you feel that way. I hope such confidence or lack thereof in the PLAN is pervasive across the english fleet. There shouldn't then be any hesitation to sail all around the SCS, drop anchor, or even up near the coast. Come.
@@EmperorLionflame Also no way to detect the darling at range? You must be unaware of the range of assets the PLA has. Anyways there's no reason for the english to be on the other side of the world from their home island and barking near the great Middle Kingdom. Unless they are looking for another fight.
@@EmperorLionflame wah.... NATO is coming. hahahha Lionflame. what a stupid name. Russia will nuke you guys to the stone age if you are stupid enough to launch an attack. BTW SCS does belong to China.... see next post.
China is on the side of International Law. Not the fake western "rules based order". We subscribe to the UN. And so should the 5 eyes. Did you know NATO and the neo-nazis are collaborating over Ukraine. U must know....
Absolute garbage channel! Type 45 destroyer has been a huge fiasco! Every single ship in the class has suffered catastrophic power failures during deployment. Thank goodness the UK was not involved in any conflicts at the time, otherwise there could have been a catastrophic loss of life! The ships have spent more time in port than on the high seas! The cost of fixing the problem is huge and increases the overall cost of an already very over-priced class! Everyone who was involved in the design of the class and who signed off on the project should have been fired and never allowed to work on UK warships again. The companies involved should be fined for the costs of the fix and also barred from working on UK warship programmes ever again!
The propulsion plant is a garbage. Only works in colds waters, and the combat sistem is a military versión of Windows 2000, very, very hackeable. Sorry for my bad english.
@@paultanton4307 No publicly reported failures. Whether there have been failures hushed up, who knows? Even if that not the case, one out of six is still a terrible success rate. Good job we don't rely on these warships to do essential work like escorting our highly vulnerable carriers. Oh wait...
Which is bollocks. The propulsion system works in all waters. If you understood how IEP works, it would help. Try not to follow the crap posted in the reliable old internet.
@@danielmonk7451 doesnt matter. to the uneducated and misinformed side of the world over there, these missiles are the best because they are not made in China.
A few days ago the british aircraft carrier got a shock when russian migs screamed over the flight deck before they even had time to react thinking hyposonic missiles were going to hit plus the US carrier group fled the med for the adriatic after spending 10 days trying to find a kaliber nuke russian sub sad
@Drew Peacock Aegis SM-3 can intercept even at initial boost phase given the right condition. Its the only one to be succesfully tested against an ICBM.
@Drew Peacock SM-3 is a midcourse interceptor. Its Block IIA has a terminal speed of Mach 15. They are the fastest interceptors out there. Not even Russia's A-135 or China's DN-3 could do that. It has the capability to intercept at initial phase and it was actually the Russians who said that. This is why Russia and China were so adamant to produce hypersonic weapons to counter this. Hypersonic weapons are also a hype. Its no holy grail. A hypersonic glide vehicle omits lots of heat around its body giving off a very bright infrared signature that low observable satellites can pickup. They are susceptible to interceptors with infrared homing guidance. Actually, ballistic missiles with a depressed trajectory are much faster if not the same. Plus Russia's Avangard and China's DF-ZF cant be deployed considering they use ballistic missile as their carrier. The enemy wont know if it will only be used just as a carrier for the glide vehicle or if its a preemptive nuclear strike, so it will always lead to an all out nuclear response. If i remember correctly, Japan didnt want the Aegis Onshore SM-3 because the large boosters will fall off hitting their mainland. But their destroyers are equipped with SM-3. Japan also has a hand in manufacturing SM-3 Block IIA.
@Drew Peacock If SM-3 isnt able to intercept b4 the glide vehicle separates from the carrier it will be up to THAAD or SM-6. SM-6 will also be fitted with IR seeker. If THAAD fails, it will be up to Patriot with SkyCepter missiles derived from Stunner missiles equipped with infrared homing. After that, it will be the PAC-3 missiles. If SM-6 fails, it will be up to SM-2, Sparrow and Rolling Airframe Missiles. THAAD is also going to get an extended range upgrade. SM-6 will also be made faster. Last line of defense is the CIWS and laser and microwave.
There should have been 12 but instead they cancelled half the contract, at the same time moth balled the carriers we had at the time 😒 now we have a tiny destroyer/frigate fleet
@@paultanton4307 watch the Admiral on the bbc documentary before they were built. It was 13 simples sorry to inform you of the lucky number lol From Great Britain
You've missed out several upgrades.
They've been up gunned with an additional 24cell Sea Ceptor system, replacing Aster 15.
So now they carry 48 Aster 30s and 24 CAMMs.
The recuperator doesn't work properly, causing catastrophic failure in warm waters
This is being fixed with the PIP, the Power Improvement Program
Extra diesel gen sets, bigger ones too.
@Ran Brainhole
Sadly they were a billion each.
Once the PIP is completed though, they'll be right up there, it's SAM systems are second to none.
@@MostlyPennyCat On paper non combat proven yet!
A PLAN Type 055 Destroyer with about 120 milssiles can easily take those Darlings out of the water. Only 8 anti-ship missiles? The 055 can carry dozens of air, land, and anti-ship missiles. Its radar and battle management system is far superior too. 8 anti-ship missiles is a joke. Even PLAN missile boats have more firepower to sink ships.
@@dyong888 Don’t be ridiculous China bot. Everything made in China is, well it’s made in China. Enough said.
@@dyong888
Probably but the 055 is a cruiser, this is only a destroyer.
That's like saying the Type 054 is no match for the Type 45, of course it isn't, it's a frigate.
Both the 055 and the Type 45 are AAW ships, mostly carrying SAMs.
You sink ships with aircraft and subs, not other ships.
The Type 45 is almost exclusively for SAMs
A significant difference between them is technology level.
The 055 still requires a dozen individual radar systems to fight and navigate with.
Right now the Type 45 is the top of the tech tree with only 2 radar sets, SAMPSON, the worlds most advanced target tracking radar and supplemented with data from the S1850M, an advanced 3D volume search radar which has the ability to detect stealth targets (using low frequency radar) and high and far track for ballistic missile defence.
Combined with Aster, the worlds only hit-to-kill SAM family, Aster, which flies at damn near hypersonic speeds (an unclassified Mach 4.5) it is second to none.
But it will _always_ lose if you pit it against two enemy ships, won't it?
And you know what's worse?
When stupid idiots Xi and Putin go around _pointing_ them at us and each other because it makes their pp hard.
Pathetic little men who wat to rule as God Kings.
Sadly I think the day will come when they realise that just because WE also have guns, there's a difference between invading and repelling an invasion.
May their pain and humiliation serve as a lesson to all who come after
The Ministry of Defense has listed the status of each of the Type 45 Destroyers in the fleet.
“HMS DEFENDER is currently deployed as part of the Carrier Strike Group (CSG21) while
HMS DIAMOND has experienced some technical problems and has been separated from CSG21 for maintenance, inspection and defect rectification.
HMS DARING and HMS DUNCAN are undergoing extensive planned maintenance.
HMS DAUNTLESS, the first of the Type 45 destroyers to undergo a power enhancement project upgrade, is expected to return to sea for trials this year.
HMS DRAGON is undergoing a period of planned maintenance ahead of her new operational commitments.”
British engineering. Bloody good, when it works
@@mattkerr3508 Hmm.. I think I would call engineering bloody good if it worked more. Ours always seems to have problems with reliability.
@@mattkerr3508 when they are not drunk gluing bolts
from someone who has worked with the Type 45 programme since 2003, some of the comments on capability are hilarious...just goes to show, you really know.......nothing
So are you saying its better or worse than the comment claim?
from someone who has a vested interest I wont accept any comment ... of course the toy I built is better than yours
Such a great ship only one out of six were fully operational throughout the year in 2021 how embarrassing, come on MOD respect the Royal Navy
Great stuff British friends. More please. What a beautiful ship and power 💪. Salute from Germany
Recent articles indicate that the Type 45 is having significant problems remaining at sea due to power plant failures that may require all ships of the class be overhauled. Today, it is reported that all 6 Type 45's are presently in port due to power plant issues and are unable to go to sea during the Ukraine crisis.
If all of that is true, then the Type 45 may be the best anti-aircraft ship, but if it can't get to sea, then it doesn't really matter.
'Recent articles'. You mean, clickbait bullshit authored by speculative 'defence journalists'?
Well womp womp it’s use around the Red Sea has proven all of these comments, well wrong. It is one of if not the best ship for its role, and has been doing very well
For many years, years, Years. this type has been plagued by breakdown s in its propulsion systems. The real problem is the Royal navy accepted subpar engineering and construction from the company that made and installed them!
"Nothing can stop the Type 45?" Really? Yes it can. Its engines😂😂
Yeah, don’t go into warm waters.
bit like us brits claim we can handle warm places but really were just well suited to the cold and drizzle.
That is true lol
They're fixing them now, they'll be done by 2028, which is too long imo
Can it handle a couple of Exocets?
the idea with any warship, best or otherwise, is that you can deploy it to sea to do its job. Trouble with the type 45 is that the engines dont work. 6 vessels (most of the fleet) are currently in dock having their engines replaced. The estimated return to service of most is ‘by 2028. 2028!!! So there’s nothing that can stop the type 45? True! Seems like its hard to stop something that’s not going anywhere.
yeah already stopped by their failures
i am very happy to heard this...Great ..Big Up Britain
Please make a video on Visakhapatnam class destroyer
Yes they are definitely better than this Destroyers except radars
@@sourabhgupta4853 Vishakhapatnam's AESA radars can track hundreds of targets as far as 500 kms.
@@rohitb5834 I thought this uk Destroyer have 1000km range but actually Vishakapatnam is better than this in every aspect 🇮🇳
Nothing can stop them. Except for engine malfunction every year
It’s almost like ships have issues. 🤦♂️
All in dock - engines are knackered and now of all times!
Cool title "sea lord"
Actually kind of sounds like a gay pornstars name
@@jacoblongbrake8230 dear god no
This video seems based on the manufacture's pamphlet. It doesn't provide any insightful particulars of the class. The primary deficiency of the Type 45 class are they were too expensive. The Royal Navy could only afford to buy six when they needed at least 12 vessels. Twelve Type 45 escorts would have been adequate for escorts for the Royal Navy's two new carriers if the Type 45 displayed the reliability that was predicted. However, at the present only one of six are available due to constant propulsion issues. Moreover, the Type 45 doesn't have enough missiles for modern warfare. It was announced that the destroyers' anti-air armament will be enhanced with the addition of a 24 cell silo for Sea Ceptor surface-to-air missiles. This is scheduled for the 2026 to 2032 period. The Aster missiles are used by few navies and few ships resulting it being uneconomic to keep a production line going with continued updates and new missiles. At their core, modern combat systems are vastly complex software. The United States Aegis system is used by many countries and installed in dozens of ships. It is constantly debugged, improved and tested. It will work when required. The Type 45 combat system is so few in numbers that upgrades and realistic tests are hard to afford. It is questionable if it will work when the missiles fly. Finally, the Type 45s don't have Cooperative Engagement (CEC) installed. CEC is a force multiplier that would make up for some of the deficiencies of the class. The British should have purchased the USN's Aegis system and the SM-2 Block IIIC, SM-3, SM-6 and Evolved Sparrow missiles. It would have been cheaper and would have worked when needed.
but it unsinkable and even can fly 😅👍
SM-3 is a must, while SM-2 and SM-6 are redundant and overprized. SM-6 being around $4.5M per missile while SM-2 around half of that. Raytheon should make a naval version of the SkyCepter missile, derived from the Stunner missile used in Davids Sling that have similar range to SM-6 but flies faster at Mach 7.5, while only being around $700k to $1M each. SkyCepter should be around half the prize of SM-2, plus its already been fielded into current Patriot systems in Poland.
@@johnsilver9338, As far as I know, SM-6 cost so much because it attempts to be anti-anything that moves (small, and large ships, missiles, planes, UAVs, birds shitting on your boat) while the Stunner and Barak 8 are mainly anti-air of all sorts without all the radar thing and warhead required to be effective against the ship.
The main thing I don't like about the missile is that the 1st thing it sinks for sure is your own economy unless you are the US.
@@nirharpaz1 Actually, even the US Navy wont use SM-6 unless Tomahawks prove inadequate. Tomahawks are only at just around $1M. I get that SM-6 is to ba an all-rounder, but the SM-2 to be more than $2M when a Stunner missile has better performance while being cheaper. But even then SM-6 dont even have infrared homing so its price is not justifiable for its performance. Do the US just straight agree at whatever price tag Raytheon drops at their face. Maybe congress should look into this.
@WWeronko The Type 45 as you describe, sort of reminds me of the US's early Mk.14 BuOrd fiasco, in a future hindsighted way...
Nothing .... Really ???? you make my day :)
India:Two brahmos simultaneously can stop it.😎
Russia:Hold my vodka! Zircon missile in bound.100% kill rate
One...
@@EmperorLionflame It's the US debt nobody can afford.....
Not just the engines. 2 x 20MW main propulsion has harmonic voltage distortion (19-21%, 4 x NATO STANAG limit if 5%) and common mode voltage in kV due to her Converteam MP VFDs.15 years on, has this been resolved ?
That's what they want you to think
Can you believe Hms daring is 17 years old now ! And she’s spent more time laid up than at sea 😢
Wow, 17 years, they still seem so new. Type 42s lasted 38 years and it's just a fact of the military in general that some of the hardware struggles to stay online. Just imagine the moving parts of a destroyer and the amount of maintenance they need. The Type 42s I served on had their problems but those were seen to in good time. The Russians are a bit different. They have a habit of mothballing ships and under maintaining the ones in service. Maybe a hangover from the Cold War and their fleet being too large to operate. The RN should be bigger fleet wise that's for sure but i think good effort is put in to keep what we have in good shape. Still good reason to be proud.🇬🇧
Don't always keep up with everything, but I do know in July 2021: there was only ONE type 45 sea worthy, operational, and at sea.
yup and they sailed it into Russian waters and almost got it destroyed. That was a hot moment and not the smartest move from Britain unless they just wanted to test the Russian response and it was not well. They where not a fan of british warships in their waters
@@patrikjakobsen2142 1, not in their waters international water's.
2, They sent aircraft after it not submarines subs are a big threat to this ship, planes are not
The PLAN has 4 055 destroyers. The pommies should stay and defend their waters against Scotland.
@@dyong888 Ohhh we're so scared, NOT. china's stuck in it's own waters surrounded by the us and it's allies having made way too many smaller type 054 frigates than it can afford to maintain whilst building more capable ships like the type055 theres a reason the us's main ships are bigger tico cruisers and Burke destroyer's and not perry frigates and Freedom LCS's.
Mark my words buddy China is going to realise that it's smaller frigates are no match for american ships and have to mothball them early to pay for larger and more capable ships in smaller numbers so when the USN reaches it's planed 350 ships by 2035 china will be picking up the pieces made by the mistake of building lots of frigates which made the American navy's acquistion sector get it's act together and stop messing arounf with ships like the zumwalt to build more capable ships like the ford, constellation and the new destroyer they just announced.
In 15 years Xi will realise that the propoganda of "largest navy in the world" wasn't worth wasting resources on ships incapable of taking on 30 year old burkes and haven't even resulted in more ships than all of the Aukus or quad or just the us + japan making it an embarrasing failure to say the least. I mean now when you look at AUKUS which is what you'll be fighting you have less ships all of which are less capable
Also you clearly aren't an aussie or a brit because then you'd know it's POHM's for prisoners of her majesty not pommies which makes no sense i mean what are you calling them prisoners of majesty?
@@patrikjakobsen2142 it didn't almost get destroyed
Can it face the Brahmos missile?
Nothing can stop Brahmos.......
@@adithyank.a5959 Prove it. How many ships have they destroyed?????
Yes !.
@@zenko247 Its 2.8 mach speed means that it cannot be intercepted by existing missile defence systems (even s400) and its precision makes it lethal to water targets. Although BrahMos was primarily an anti-ship missile, the BrahMos Block III can also engage land-based targets.
@@adithyank.a5959 ALL BULLSHIT till used in battle PS check speed and range of Aster 30
Starship: Nothing can stop us now. Great song.
And now the type 83 is in development
It would be nice if they would sort out the propulsion system out.
out, out
are these the ones all in dock due to engine problems?
All 6 in dock. Nothing can stop them 😂😂😂
So how many type 45 have had the cell upgrades for missiles,,,I’m looking at one now and can’t see them
None yet - looking till at least 2024 onwards for that upgrade to be carried out.
I dunno, the intercooler and the recuperator do a damn fine job of stopping the Ds.
Fixed now but they should never have used the WR-21.
The Intercooler and Recuperator are part of the complex gas turbine cycle and give up to 27% efficiency gains at high power demands. WR21 can use up to 60% less fuel than older gas turbine designs such as Olympus across the power range.
Not fixed yet at all, and won’t be for years!
@@johnwood1948 Dauntless has her new recuperator fit right now and embarks on sea trials shortly. Daring next, then subsequent ships to follow
@@fa0676 Perhaps then they should have gone CODOG then? WR21 are a dead end as the RN is the only customer.
@@clangerbasher Nope. WR21 are highly power dense and offer huge fuel efficiencies across all power phases.
One brahmos
Or zircon can change this title
I love these videos as I love reading the comments sections! 😄 Sooooooooo many dickhead know-it-alls it's awesome
well a slightly warm sea seems to screw it up
That's why all six are in dock in Portsmouth while a war pending. Generator and electrical power quality problems..
Warm waters seem to put a stop to them it seems.
Nice ships 🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧
It may be full of electronic gizmos, but looks more like a Tonka Toy compared to my last ever ship, HMS Defender, D114, a greyhound of the seas.
Not like there is any competition between the two
They may be well armed, but every one has and is still having engine issues. At the moment not one is operational and all are in port undergoing repairs.
they are not even "well armed" .They are equipped with 1970s expired Harpoon missiles...and dont even have Torpedo tubes to ward off enemy subs, which is a basic capability in any Frigate/Destroyer.
@@rohitb5834 then again the type 45 operates in an escort fleet therefore would have astute class submarines protecting it in the waters below
@@thwalesproductions good for you. All other Destroyers are self sufficient and dont need fleet protection .
Would love to see a comparison between the Type 55 and this
They won't do such a video. Makes the english look bad.
There's no real competition i'm afraid.
The UK one is under armed even for its size, the Chinease is on par with the US over-packed ships and is also X2 in displacement compared to the UK one.
It may be worth to compare it to Chinese/FREMM frigates
@@nirharpaz1 Yes that's true. The darling class is more comparable to PLAN frigates. The Darling class helps keep the english dreaming about empire.... the murder, drug trafficking, the mercenaries, the gun boat diplomacy... all supported by the royal navy and sanctioned by queen victoria.
Today the darling ships will be blown apart with a single hit from PLAN hypersonic missiles and go straight to the bottom.
Its compliment of 4 slow, short ranged, lumbering, and easy to shoot down Harpoon anti ship missiles is laughable.
@@dyong888 🥔😂
@@dyong888 basically every country with a navy has used gunboat diplomacy. Basically every country with/without a military has used mercenaries or currently uses them. And despite what people believe the empire did more good than bad civilising and bringing Stone Age societies into what was at the time the modern era. Almost like the lack of a strong democratic power intervening in africa has let it go awry….
Apart from faults on its propulsion system?
THATS A REAL LAUGH THAT IS ABOUT NOTHING CAN STOP A TYPE 45 DESTROYER
"Most capable destroyer ever". I sense the smugnsss of submariners everywhere.
it carries 48 missiles but can track 1000 targets that leaves 952 targets heading your way,saturation attacks are the way forward there is no ship that can defend against that no matter how much you spend.
We shall see
The combined entire Russian navy doesn't have 952 missiles , tf are you talking about .
Iranians have that many missiles and drones
HMS Duncan is also a type 45 destroyer
The engine.
I cannot persuade myself to appreciate the shape of the ship...
Wym? It’s a good looking ship
@@oldgreggscreamybaileys6618 like a man wearing an awkward tall hat which will fall in a moment...
I think its beautiful
Zircon Hypersonic Cruise Missile; "Hold my beer"
All six destroyers are now in port for repairs. UK has no air defence destroyers at at sea when Europe is at the brink of war. None.
brink of war? we are not fighting russia
@@Armed-Forever Since I posted my comment, there is war in Europe and we are helping Ukraine. It has since become a proxy war.
That could come at any moment. For both you and US (USA).@@Armed-Forever
DF-17:Hold my beer
Now the GT alternators have been changed and the wartsilas are out im pretty sure theyve fixed 90% of the issues. It was a shame to see all 6 laid up in pompi... as far as im aware most of them are back at sea now i know daring, dauntless and dragon are anyway
Creo que las fragatas basadas en el concepto de Navantia F-100 son superiores
Perhaps, as long as a tug is close by to tow them into battle.
Except reliability.....as of yesterday all six are in port in the UK being repaired.
Needs a modern ASM. Great against flying targets.
Some ASM's would be nice - even old ones - Harpoon has been removed and given to Ukraine.
They are excellent however we just don't have enough.....
Regardless of the capability, or the reliability problems, the UK simply doesn't have enough surface ships.
how does it handle 3 zircons?
Nothing except maybe a supersonic missle traveling at wave height that pops up at the last moment giving the ships defenses no time to react.
Except the ship is designed to stop that exact type of attack.
Brahmos missile can stop this ship very easily 😎
It's a lot harder to hit a ship than you think with a long range missile no matter how fast it is especially one that shows on radar the size of a small fishing vessel with its stealthyness, they don't keep still and it has great electronic warfare systems too as last line of defence along with the phalanx
Plus after reading up the brahmos is slow AF anyway... Asters way quicker so no it couldn't even if you fired multiple at once
A country that spends more on military than social development? Why would you want to sink an allied ship when it should be China you are worried about?
@@dezrigby6649 if you have seen vids of BrahMos tests, it has a CEP of 1m. In other words its accurate enough to hit a window.
And Phalanx? you can barely see BrahMos, it travels 3 times the speed of sound. Good luck with Phalanx
@@alfiemarsh1774 The Chinese are well in check. They will not mess with India unless they want another bloody nose.
How about India starts focussing on getting grabbing the thieves who stole and looted from them for 200 years? ;)
@@rohitb5834 well the brahmos's speed is mach 2.8 and the type 45s 2 types of missile aster 15 mach 3. 5 and aster 30 mach 4 5. It can also fire and control more than 30 missiles simultaneously and the missile systems are being upgraded even more so.. There is no chance in hell that one of those missiles would get anywhere near.. Might struggle against torpedoes though as its really for anti air only
Didn’t it used to run on windows software ?
Can anyone tell me up to what range a cruse missile launched from a ship can attack another ship. The missile need guidance from the ship right?? So its certainly has a maximum range that it a hit right??
It depends on the missile. Every missile has it’s own specifications for range, warhead size and max speed. The manufacturer will make some of these specs available to the general public.
To make things more complicated, a missile will have many evolutions and versions over the decades that upgrade these specs.
The general rule is that ship launched missiles have a range from 75 to 180 nautical miles.
This is way beyond the horizon for any ship. Modern missiles have a navigation computer, maps, gyroscopes and GPS guidance that will guide the missile to an area of interest and a combination of sensors to locate targets and engage them.
The idea is that a ship can tell a missile to go that way and attack and the missile can use a radar or other sensors to locate and engage a target of interest.
If the ship and the missile don’t have satellite communication, then the ship can’t update the guidance beyond a range because…physics and geography. So the missile navigates by itself.
The Range is mainly governed by your ability to find then track a Target - if you can do that and your Missile has a 500 mile Range the 500 miles it is.
Nothing except engine issues on all six of the ships confining them to port!
The engine can 😄
Best ?
We should ask afgans , how they pierce trough best armor
The "Daring" type is the most advanced ship the UK has at its disposal because it was build to detect earlier air threats and its comunications platforms are the most advanced the Navy has as today so the United Kingdom needs more of them to strengthen it Defences.
Nothing can stop the Type 45...except for warm water.
Well, apart from warm waters, when the electrics pack up.
I don’t know about the title of this . It’s been stopped so many times with faulty engines .
Please make a video on Vishakapatnam class Destroyer
They are really much better than this one as they provide better anti surface, anti air and anti submarine capabilities.
@@sourabhgupta4853 yes though one problem all say less vls less vls I want to say that first brahmos is very large and bulky and second we still don't have a perfect vls system.
But come on we have stealth and having 16 brahmos is better than 32 tomahawk and with Barak 8 I must say Barak 8 can destroy tactical ballistic missile and it has a long range of 150 km and we have a dedicated anti submarine suite also
@@saishaktipanda Yes brahmos is big heavy fast and much more distructive, so we have less VLS but it also have anti submarine capabilities
@@saishaktipanda let me add another fact. This ship doesn even have Torpedo tubes lol. Vishakapatnam has 6 533mm Torpedo tubes and ASW rocket launchers. It has the best ASW capability in the world. Even other Western/Asian destroyers have 324mm Light torpedos with inferior capabilities.
@@rohitb5834 yes
A very big call to suggest that nothing can stop any naval ship these days. Given that anti ship offensive weaponry has by far outpaced the defensive weaponry of the most modern naval ships. The Navy used to be considered the safest military arm, but not anymore.
After ten years and new upgrades to weapons and engines etc, and still not fit for purpose, if it all kicks off with Russia i think we need to keep all our ships well out of the way!
@@EmperorLionflame Took some pictures of two of our 45's still in dry-dock getting another refit, so at the moment even a rusty bath is still winning!
I don't really get it.
It's a 7800ton ship!
The Israeli 2000ton Sa'ar 6 for instance carries 56 long-range AA missiles, cannon, large heli, 16 anti-ship missiles and still got a spare room for torpedos and 40 extra interceptors (Iron Dome)
How come this flagship carries 8 harpoons and 48 missiles? the size doesn't add up for me.
The 1000ton Sa'ar 5 carries 32 AA missiles, 8 Harpoons, and a medium-size heli, no gun.
it's about 75% of the armament on a 1/8 size ship.
Now, I know that Israel is famous for packing its ship to be armed as f**k, but even compared to the US Fremm based frigate (about the same displacement) and the Korean and Chinese ones this ship seems a bit lightly armed IMHO.
Ships that try to do everything end up doing nothing well. Also, tons of explosives stored on board are a bigger threat to survivability. the RN knows what it is doing. The ship was underarmed in the beginning, due to budgetary constraints, but is now improving. Originally it was to have no anti ship until needed.. that is because it was supposed to do one thing. Shoot down planes and do it better than anything else afloat would do.
Apart from a sunny day
The submarine defense may be an issue for the Type 45 from what I understand if they become deployed in the South China Sea... It is pretty clear given satellite imagery in the region that the Chinese fleet has been "semi-covertly" mass producing submarines ever since 2017. They likely tend to keep their submarine numbers concealed in case a conflict starts in the region.
Still, the British have substantial Naval warfare experience and are unlikely to deploy lone destroyers lacking in escort submarine defense and surface defense ships. They would likely keep sufficient distance to prevent excessive risk from the NBC attacks, but also keep sufficient coverage as to defend the Type 45 via area denial from within their approximate proximity.
@@EmperorLionflame No need to send PLAN subs. Just salvos of anti-ship missiles, hypersonic ones, DF antiship ballistic missiles will make short work of it. Even PLAN missile boats carry more anti-ship missiles than the Darling's 4 outdated and slow harpoons. With PLAN those missile boats travelling at high speed, anglo subs will find it extremely hard to keep up.
@@EmperorLionflame I'm glad you feel that way. I hope such confidence or lack thereof in the PLAN is pervasive across the english fleet. There shouldn't then be any hesitation to sail all around the SCS, drop anchor, or even up near the coast. Come.
@@EmperorLionflame Also no way to detect the darling at range? You must be unaware of the range of assets the PLA has.
Anyways there's no reason for the english to be on the other side of the world from their home island and barking near the great Middle Kingdom. Unless they are looking for another fight.
@@EmperorLionflame wah.... NATO is coming. hahahha Lionflame. what a stupid name. Russia will nuke you guys to the stone age if you are stupid enough to launch an attack. BTW SCS does belong to China.... see next post.
China is on the side of International Law. Not the fake western "rules based order". We subscribe to the UN. And so should the 5 eyes. Did you know NATO and the neo-nazis are collaborating over Ukraine. U must know....
Absolute garbage channel! Type 45 destroyer has been a huge fiasco! Every single ship in the class has suffered catastrophic power failures during deployment. Thank goodness the UK was not involved in any conflicts at the time, otherwise there could have been a catastrophic loss of life! The ships have spent more time in port than on the high seas! The cost of fixing the problem is huge and increases the overall cost of an already very over-priced class! Everyone who was involved in the design of the class and who signed off on the project should have been fired and never allowed to work on UK warships again. The companies involved should be fined for the costs of the fix and also barred from working on UK warship programmes ever again!
Spot on
The propulsion plant is a garbage. Only works in colds waters, and the combat sistem is a military versión of Windows 2000, very, very hackeable.
Sorry for my bad english.
Not strictly true - HMS Defender performed flawlessly on CSG 21 while the unfortunate HMS Diamond suffered many problems.
@@paultanton4307 No publicly reported failures. Whether there have been failures hushed up, who knows? Even if that not the case, one out of six is still a terrible success rate. Good job we don't rely on these warships to do essential work like escorting our highly vulnerable carriers. Oh wait...
Which is bollocks. The propulsion system works in all waters. If you understood how IEP works, it would help. Try not to follow the crap posted in the reliable old internet.
How does it compare to usa's aliegh Burke?
I heard they have broken down a lot lol
It would only take one DM2A4/SeaHake mod 4 Torpedo to stop it...
Didn't they need massive refits because they're totally broken?
Apart from very hot weather engines don't like the heat
What about Visakhapatnam class destroyer????
Junk WHy???
@@zenko247 kid please go and do your homework..
@@mrmacaidams A ship that has Never left Indian waters and never been in any conflict or ever fired it's weapons in Anger A PAPER TIGER
@@zenko247 she just deployed last month.. And what is about yours weapons when Russian fires shot at hms Duncan.oh world peace..
@@mrmacaidams ooooo last month crew must be so experienced. Why is it Only Indians think they are any good LOL
Nothing can stop it except a well placed missile !!!
lack of water too XD
The title bothers me. I remember, in another life reading, "Titanic; Unsinkable Ship Launched!"
Yeah there’s 5 of them in Portsmouth stopped !
try to compare it with 1-1 fight with much cheaper 500mil Type 052D DDG or the 900million cost type 055DG.
Failure onboard those cheaper ships are least or none reported. Nothing practically could be compared.
The only anti ship weapons on type 45 is tomahawk subsonic cruise missiles and a harpoon missile
@@danielmonk7451 doesnt matter. to the uneducated and misinformed side of the world over there, these missiles are the best because they are not made in China.
I think type 55 is little over a billion now
Every 2 days have Brokens ...
Its the big dissater...¡¡
In this moment all Serie put the a anchor in the port ...
A few days ago the british aircraft carrier got a shock when russian migs screamed over the flight deck before they even had time to react thinking hyposonic missiles were going to hit plus the US carrier group fled the med for the adriatic after spending 10 days trying to find a kaliber nuke russian sub sad
I hate it when people make these statements ! they are great ships but nothing is unsinkable. Please don't tempt fate.
I heard it's a defensive ship only and doesn't have offensive capabilities
Apart from the engine conking out!!🙄
PLA Navy's type-055 laughs 😂
Should carry an Aster missile good for intercepting ballistic missiles and reach high enough to take out satellites.
@Drew Peacock Aegis SM-3 can intercept even at initial boost phase given the right condition. Its the only one to be succesfully tested against an ICBM.
@Drew Peacock Aegis SM-3 whether onshore or offshore are being deployed to South Korea. Japan also.
@Drew Peacock SM-3 is a midcourse interceptor. Its Block IIA has a terminal speed of Mach 15. They are the fastest interceptors out there. Not even Russia's A-135 or China's DN-3 could do that. It has the capability to intercept at initial phase and it was actually the Russians who said that. This is why Russia and China were so adamant to produce hypersonic weapons to counter this. Hypersonic weapons are also a hype. Its no holy grail. A hypersonic glide vehicle omits lots of heat around its body giving off a very bright infrared signature that low observable satellites can pickup. They are susceptible to interceptors with infrared homing guidance. Actually, ballistic missiles with a depressed trajectory are much faster if not the same. Plus Russia's Avangard and China's DF-ZF cant be deployed considering they use ballistic missile as their carrier. The enemy wont know if it will only be used just as a carrier for the glide vehicle or if its a preemptive nuclear strike, so it will always lead to an all out nuclear response. If i remember correctly, Japan didnt want the Aegis Onshore SM-3 because the large boosters will fall off hitting their mainland. But their destroyers are equipped with SM-3. Japan also has a hand in manufacturing SM-3 Block IIA.
@Drew Peacock South Korea is also considering getting SM-3 in response to North Korea.
@Drew Peacock If SM-3 isnt able to intercept b4 the glide vehicle separates from the carrier it will be up to THAAD or SM-6. SM-6 will also be fitted with IR seeker. If THAAD fails, it will be up to Patriot with SkyCepter missiles derived from Stunner missiles equipped with infrared homing. After that, it will be the PAC-3 missiles. If SM-6 fails, it will be up to SM-2, Sparrow and Rolling Airframe Missiles. THAAD is also going to get an extended range upgrade. SM-6 will also be made faster. Last line of defense is the CIWS and laser and microwave.
Didn't a Norwegian frigate capsized after a collision? A big tower is gonna make the ship tipsy.
That tower is very light. Made of carbon fibre and composites. The radar on the top is 4 tons. It's not going to tip over a 8500 ton ship
These aren't NEW, we've had them for 12 years!
They said RMS Titanic was unsinkable!
And it was unsinkable
I hope the fix to the engines work. They fail in the tropics.
Except for flooding, electrical problems or engine failures, which have been crippling this class since its launch
That's while the radars are so high up. Can stack targets while sinking
However they break down a lot, totally unreliable which is a bummer
There should have been 12 but instead they cancelled half the contract, at the same time moth balled the carriers we had at the time 😒 now we have a tiny destroyer/frigate fleet
Actually it was 13 not 12 lol
@@davidrobertson5700 Intention was always 12,never seen any information regarding 13.
@@paultanton4307 watch the Admiral on the bbc documentary before they were built.
It was 13 simples sorry to inform you of the lucky number lol
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@@davidrobertson5700 nope, it was 12.
@@qe6273 wrong, sorry pal. I watched the episode on and old dvdr last night. Sorry mate
Apart from warm water ;)
Except warm water ?
They said the same about the Titanic, don't tempt fate.
your talking about a ship what was built overa 100 years ago lol