Drone News: NYC Drone Approval? Aloft Air Control API, Mysterious Drone Leaks
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Welcome to your weekly UAS news update, we have 3 stories for you this week; NYC is proposing an approval process to fly drones in the city, Aloft Air control has released their API, and some drone leaks.
Lets get to it!
00:00 Introduction
00:22 NYC Proposing an Approval to Fly Drones
08:36 New Aloft Air Control API
15:08 Mysterious Drone Leaks
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Our friends over at aloft have announced that their LAANC system can now be integrated using an API.
If you aren’t familiar, and API stands for Application programming interface, and allows a third party to integrate product into their system.
This means that drone manufacturers, corporations, and software suppliers will be able to integrate LAANC and fleet management directly into their software.
This is a really cool addition to Aloft’s already powerful software, and we’re interested to see which manufacturers pick this up to integrate LAANC directly into their apps!
And your final story this week are some drone leaks!
We’ve got leaks on the rumored DJI Air 3 and also an interesting email about a potential Autel Robotics release.
Starting with the Air 3, Amazon and B&H both appear to have leaked the DJI Air 3 via advertisements, confirming an upcoming launch.
Unfortunately, there’s no pricing or specs, but we expect it to be a 1” sensor and priced right around $1000.
These specs would put it in-between the Mavic 3 Classic and the Mini 3 Pro.
We’ll keep you updated when we see more!
And Autel, who may soon be releasing a larger drone to compete with the Matrice 300 and 350.
In a press release this week, the company announced that new products on display at the Energy Drone+Robotics summit in Houston would include the Autel Alpha and the Autel Titan…
These are both so far unreleased drones that may be on display at the event.
That’s it, thanks to everyone who tuned in for this week’s live event!
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If you have to notify City Council members then it ought to be required that the City Council members pass a test showing that they understand drone regulations and practices.
NYC's process for being able to fly a drone sounds like how Louis Rossman described the process of opening a business in NYC.
As a Part 107 educator, I can only say that something like this is an example where a city is simply creating an unachievable ordinance that is designed to limit drone use to zero simply because the terms of the ordinance are unachievable. Forget about all the particulars for a moment and focus on the advanced notice criteria. Part 107 operations require weather minima in order to commence with a flight. If anyone can tell me the weather 30 days in advance, please contact me immediately! This is another example of gov't overreach stifling innovation. I personally met with members of the NYC City Council and all they were interested to do with drones is send them out in to the city and scan apartment buildings (using technology that doesn't exist) in order to make sure building owners were paying the correct amount of taxes based on occupancy. Absurd. So here's a forecast: licensed Part 107 Operators will never be able to legally fly a drone in NYC.
Or instead they will just fly without asking permission because the process is insane, which would accomplish the opposite of what the ordinance is trying to do...
@@PilotInstitute exactly. Waste of time and the people’s resource. They forget who they work for.
They just open up drone flights
This government people need to put their shoes of a regular person who loves to fly a drone, and not cause any problems to anyone. Just fly the drone safely, and take pictures and video and that’s it. Too many rules too many laws that are ridiculously dumb and stupid. The sheep can not do this can not do that; however, the wolves can do anything they want. Specifically the NYC wolves. Dumb very dumb way of thinking and acting New York officials. This’s why people and the world don’t like you. Let me tell you what the answer is. Work with us. Let’s fly our drones, and will fly them safely and have a good time doing it. Don’t put walls in front of us? People brake the walls if they see one. Or just simply dig a hole and go under or around it. This doesn’t solve the problem. On the contrary, you just opened a can of worms. A BIG CAN OF WORMS. Dumb people
Thank you Greg! ;-) T (Today, we have implemented our "Data Privacy Policy for Aerial Drone Photography." Thanks for the nudge!)
Thanks Greg nice overview..
I love the long format. More of these, please.
We do those when warranted. Otherwise we try to keep it concise.
The DroneXL article about the NYC proposal is where you can find the method of contacting NYC about submitting your comments.
how is this done in LA or Denver or Schmicago?
To the CEO of Aloft, How about making it able to get approval for a location I am not at, in advance of my flight. And make it able to log flights outside of controlled airspace, so I can be seen on sectional charts. And I want to be able to use it on my desktop by going to a URL. These are the problems I have had with using your app since I moved over from AirMap. Thanks, Commercial Drone Pilot.
You can do all that (except I think log flights outside controlled airspace). We have a free deep dive course on our website on Aircontrol, it might help you navigate all the functions.
Good stuff
At least they have a few dedicated parks to fly drones which require AMA membership if I am not mistaken: Calvert Vaux in Brooklyn for example. It is not different in Washington DC where we cannot fly drones in town. I see a point of limiting drone flights in NYC with the many tall buildings and the near impossible flying conditions with so much moving traffic. But, for this Part 107 is already sufficient to keep drones from flying unsafely.
There needs to be a path to allow commercial flights.
When is the event that Autel is going to show these new drones?
The NYC process is likely to increase the amount of non-authorized flight. And that is more dangerous that coming up with sensible procedures and regulations that work in NYC's unique airspace and in everyone's best interest.
Greg I’m flying up here at night and I’ve seen a few actually a lot of drones ? Go by with a light that doesn’t seem bright at all blinking ? And mine are !!! I thought All strobes are to be seen why am I seeing others that are not ?
I love Aloft. I use it very, very often. The only recommendation I would have is to convert a location's decimal degrees to degrees, minutes, and seconds for the Dronezone input, since I use it to determine where everything is too.. As far as Autel, I would still like to see the remote ID solution they promised last year for their V1/V2 drones. They promised a module.
Did they promise RID for v1 and v2?? I thought they came out to say that those chips weren't gonna be compatible with RID. At least that what I was told by one of their reps.
@@PilotInstitute No, one of their people promised that they were going to create a reasonably priced remote ID module, but that was just on a podcast. I only heard it once and never heard another word about it.
As a roofing professional I use my drone extensively to inspect properties. Cities overriding the FAA rules is detrimental to my work. However I would also argue 0-75 ft should be controlled by the property owner. This would allow pilots with the owners permission to inspect a property for the owner. And give the owner more rights to the airspace immediately around their land while not interfering with FAA controlled airspace. No plane or copter should ever be that low. No drone pilot should be that low over other peoples land as well adding some privacy to the people.
Are you sure Jon Hegranes isn't really Tony Stewart? LOL.
Shhhh, don't tell anyone.
Does Aloft collect and attach your personal information to your Remote I.D??
To be fair, if any city as a collective has a shared reason to be nervous about unknown aircraft flying over their heads, it's probably New York City.
That having been said, there does exist a version of this law that I think makes sense. Something along the lines of appointing a UAV committee for each borough, making the registration fee refundable after the mission is completed, including waivers for sub 250 gram drones...
So what is the deal with all of the relators in NYC using their own drone footage to sell all those penthouses? There are dozens of them at a time.
Where would you even fly in NYC? If you're Part 107 you need an FAA waver for flying over people and vehicles and a recreational flyer can't fly over them as it is. Where in NYC would you not be flying over people or vehicles?
It seems to me that having drones in a city would benefit its tourist industry. They'd get so much free publicity on the many non-commercial platforms that are becoming increasingly more utilized by the general public. A lot of these cities spend big $$$ advertising how cool they are to visit. I'd say having some incredible drone footage from various independent sources like the social media platforms would augment their paid-for advertising (of which more and more are created by drones anyway).
I can understand the implications of things like possible interference with helicopter traffic (both commercial and public safety). But I still think that having great drone footage on the multitude of social platforms - esp. those not monetizing/107 sites - would benefit the city.
Air control app in the Apple Store is 9 months old. No new releases
This is not a new app release, this is a new feature release outside the app.
I never had success using Aloft Air Control... been trying but fail everytime.. I just dont get it.
What are you having issues with? I fly drones commercially for cell tower inspections and might be able to help you out.
@@elkotend thanks for your reply. 1. I start the apps on my iphone. 2. Add a mission. 3. I check all Preflight Checklist. 4. I choose answers for Part 107 Assessment. 5. Then the apps give me "your risk level score". 6. I click NEXT. 7. Then it will ask me to connect to the aircraft. It stops there. How do I connect to the aircraft? I am using a DJI RC Pro.
I thought everyone moved out of NYC.
I bought an Evo lite + drone and I live in a GEO zone, I have to ask for permission to fly
This is probably a dumb question - sorry -, but how does Casey do it?
Illegally. That's also why he's been in trouble with the FAA in the past.
What legal athority does NYC have to enforce drones from flying? Whats to stop any other US city from doing the same? Isn't it the FAA that regualates Airspace? Or is the focus of the orrdinace prohibiting landing and take off from city property their only legal way of enfofement? What if you OWN the property you are landing and taking off from?
You never truly own any property. You only rent it from the government, bank or both. Even if you think you own it, you still have to abide by the laws in place from the government whos jurisdiction its in.
I think if you are a 107 and takeoff and land from a actual airfield then the local lawmakers should have to pound sand.
Can someone draft a statement we can collectively send to NYC?
It's better if you tell your individual story actually.
I am posting this as a chicken because so many UAV pilots think that there is no such thing as bodily privacy rights especially when it comes to commercial filming. You are not allowed to capture a photo or video and post it if the person did not consent and can be recognized (IE facial recognition). Obviously, there are a few exceptions to this, but you should inquire to journalist for how they deal with it. SO, if you can enhance the image and get a face you can't use it commercially. This is a section that creates a lot of conflicts with law enforcement that don't know UAV laws and regulations. Another big conflict starter is ID. You are required to have you part 107 license and I'm pretty sure you're required to present it to and law enforcement or public official when requested. It's just good practice regardless.
Now, what you are seeing with this new law is the fallout from a lawsuit that was apparently won at the federal level on 6/6/23 against NYC. The company that won the lawsuit is called XIZMO MEDIA. They are boasting on their website that they are the only ones allowed to fly in NYC now which is also untrue. If you wanted to challenge NYC you can also win some rights to fly and this is why NYC is changing their code. We can thank XIZMO for the most likely costly victory, but we don't have to believe the exclusive statement.
This is the exact code NYC is using:
"f. Air traffic rules. It shall be unlawful for any person to navigate an aircraft within the limits of the city in any manner prohibited by any provision of, or contrary to the rules and regulations of, the federal aviation administration."
The FAA declared this:
"Cities and municipalities are not permitted to have their own rules or regulations governing the operation of aircraft.
However, as indicated, they may generally determine the location of aircraft landing sites through their land use powers."
So, you can fly and take off from private property and win against NYC in Federal court BUT, you better not crash without enough insurance or proof that somebody intercepted your UAV in some way. If you do the FAA win fully investigate your accident report and if you didn't file one, you're done. So, what safe options does that give you in a crowded city with mostly crowded streets. Obviously, you want an uncrowded area and need a drone that meets the kinetic energy requirements, propeller safety, and RID from the FAA or is under 249g. Your flight plan would be something like straight up and down or something quite close to you landing spot due to VLOS. Unless you're lucky enough to pay off a tall building owner to take off from the roof.
All that being said, your options are still quite limited. People crying about private property being photographed without permission have no defense especially if all visible address information is redacted. That pretty much means no pictures or textures should show 123 Fake St(Mainly the number part). People with concern about your UAV photographing them if their face is recognizable do have rights. Remember these ethics so all of the part 107 community can continue having the privilege to fly. Check it up with lawyer too if you want to.
Casey Neistat flies his drone all over the city.
I took (with my Mini 3 Pro) off in Central Park one day and in less than a New York minute, a Karen was in my face!
I plan on going back and flying again. City law is less trouble than the FAA, and I'll take my chances. :)
Wish FAA would step in and override. It’s their air space.
The FAA never does that. I don't think the FAA has ever sued a city or state. I don't even know if they would have legal standing To sue since the FAA is not a victim, we are the victims. That would be an interesting question for a lawyer.
If we don't like it we have to sue the city similar to Mr. Singer versus Newton Massachusetts.
Greg can I fly in this New York air quality????
You typically can't fly in NYC in the first place, but if you're operating under part 107, you need 3SM visibility, which you won't have in NYC. I don't recommend flying right now, especially at night.
Not in ny city! In upstate ny I was talking about will anything affect the motor the air quality better here !!
@@TheItalianWays you still need 3SM visibility. If you have that you can fly (in Upstate) assuming not in controlled air space / can get LAANC approval. At night you need the Anti-collision light that can be seen from 3SM.
I’ve been flying for two years I have all that stuff. Thanks. I don’t need any of your help strobe at night. I got 15 strobes all set. Thanks.
@@TheItalianWays Since it did not seem you were aware of the 3SM visibility requirement I thought you were new to flying drones. Good luck
DJI could just remove the ridiculous extra step to unlock their buggy geofencing. Won't buy another DJI unless they remove it.
Im still trying to understand why dji feels its their responsibility to enact geofencing unless it was a US government/faa dictate to them.
I fly in an authorization zone. Its class E airspace with a 700 foot floor. The FAA doesnt care about my drone flying since I'm limited to a 400 foot ceiling. However I have to submit an unlock through DJI for it, which is approved instantly through their website. However then I have to activate the unlock in the DJI Fly app, IF I have cell reception which is spotty. I contacted them and have gotten an annual unlock for the area. Their responses to the other concerns were less than helpful.
However its absurd that DJI feels the need for this. Give me a warning that I have to acknowledge as a registered user to accept the responsibility for the flight. That is ALL they should be doing. I have no problem with a reminder like that as it helps with situational awareness.
@@MysticalDragon73 No other brand does it that I'm aware of.
How are these local bans even legal?
The FAA has jurisdiction over the airspace - but before the drone takes off and after it lands, it's entirely on the locality. It's frustrating, and I dislike those rules, but that's how it works.
@@j_ny so they're restricting where you launch from, not flying over.
@@markkempton4579 Precisely. That's all that the locality can do - control the ground - and they, just like many other localities around the country, are doing it. In NYC's case, it's via a law that's been on the books since 1948 that nobody really thought about too much for model aircraft over the years, until drones became common in recent years.
Airspace-wise, there are actually quite a lot of spots within NYC where the FAA has no issue with drones in the airspace - whether spots that could be instantly LAANC-approved in most areas, or some that wouldn't even require LAANC over some parts of Brooklyn, lower Manhattan, and I think some of Staten Island. But NYC doesn't let us get up into, or down from, that space at all, even when the FAA has no problem with it once it's in the air. That's the frustration.
@@j_ny can't you launch from private property? They can't control what you do from your own land.
@@markkempton4579 They absolutely can restrict that. Being on private property does not exempt people anywhere from federal, state, or local laws - a criminal act on the street doesn't become completely legal just because it's done on one's own property. National, state, and local laws still apply at home. Under New York City law, taking off or landing an aircraft of any size is a misdemeanor criminal offense, except from designated places. Private homes, offices, skyscrapers, etc. are not designated places by default.
Even if it were somehow possible to accumulate enough land in NYC to build an airfield or helipad, one would have to get it approved as a designated place, or get a temporary permit.
Hahaha. It's nearly as bad as trying to fly a drone in Paris.
I prefer civil discourse here, as they will continue to make it harder and harder.
👍🏼 It’s COMPLETELY LEGAL to MOD your older DJI drones to ELIMINATE NFZ Nonsense.
If you choose to fly it in NYC, please use your own discretion and always fly safely.
Wonder how Casey does it. 🤔
Illegally. He got in trouble with the FAA before.
NYC=$$$$$ , hoop, hoop, more hoops never fails, sounds like lots of letters need to be written to hopefully help guide them.
"Fear" is a powerful force. We need to alleviate the people's fear if we want these silly restrictions to stop and go away.
I don't see a bill like this being introduced here in Utah but then again there made some ridiculous laws in past history and those laws don't even apply here in 2023 or at any point in history.😂
I’m going out I want to fly !!! Night ops ! Lol ❤
NY is just too populated. I am fine with no drones flying around NY unless it's law enforcement or a production company. The last thing I want to see is someone flying a drone in Time Square. Yes, I pilot drones and fly rc aircraft.
I would add commercial services to this. They could use drones for various inspections.
There are so many much-less populated areas of NYC. NYC is not just Manhattan. There are vast swaths of places in the outer boroughs, even some parts of Manhattan, where people can safely fly as long as they do so within FAA rules. The FAA's rules cover safe flight pretty responsibly on their own. For now, the blanket instruction is "if you see a drone, call 911." That's absolutely ridiculous, and it could get someone badly hurt if there's a disproportionate response to someone flying a toy or operating in a way that's otherwise responsible - or even if there's a misunderstanding about an approved production, or even a misunderstanding about people flying in one of those five approved airfields.
The problem is that if New York City can do it so can every single City. NYC is misusing land-use authority to deny access to the National Airspace
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Yup, and that's why people are out there pleading with cities not to do that. Most places have found common-sense ways to deal with it, such as "the FAA's rules are fine, let the FAA handle it." If I understand correctly (and I may be wrong), NJ passed laws at the state level essentially saying this, AND also saying that localities can't pass stricter restrictions than that. This makes things easy in NJ.
@@j_ny
That's correct. I can't recall the code for those laws right now but I did write them on my drone gear so that I can quickly refer people to them if necessary.
unfortunately, despite those state laws some cities have made their own anyway. That leaves us in the same predicament. We have to sue those cities or we can just wait to get a summons and then bring the state and federal laws to court. That should have us found not guilty but it wouldn't resolve all the problems that would arise from having a commercial job shut down by the local cops 😞
To avoid that whole mess we really need to inform these cities that they should remove their laws which conflict with state and federal law. If they don't comply then we should sue them.
Why so much talk about DJI. I understand they are the number one drone manufacturer, but there are other drone manufactures making great drones! I would like to hear more about them also!
You mean like Autel, the company we talked about right after?
@@PilotInstitute Exactly, would love to hear more about other drone manufactures. Pilot Institute was my go to for Part 107 and I watch your videos when one becomes available but as I expressed, I would like to hear more from you on other manufactures. Why, because Pilot Institute gives the best presentations. Thanks for listening!
We talk about them when they are reported but it has been a long time since anyone has released anything, other than DJI and Autel.
do tell us about these other great drone manufacturers and what drones they have available? So far I'm not seeing many feasible options to dji drones.
@@MysticalDragon73 Autel makes very good drones in my opinion. I have an DJI and an Autel both very good drones! I would like to take note that I'm not saying DJI is a inferior drone. They make excellent drones! As a drone pilot I just would like to hear as much about what is going on in the drone world as or when it becomes available. I hope that this will dispell the idea that I'm trash talking DJI! Thank you for your comment!
the city does not have authority over the airspace that surrounds it
It’s not airspace restriction. It’s land restriction.
What has been happening with DJI anyway, it got queit, have they outlawed DJI yet??? I hope someone at least gives us upates every week or so so we can decide ifwe need to look for Made in USA drones that have none of the DJI technology, parts, or programing in them.
Proposed bills take time but it looks like this one will be dead in the water!
shows how clueless you are smh.
Start looking !!! Cause Dji bann not going anywhere! !!
Contixo f35 are nice out of California I have 3 of them work great!!
Just another reason to avoid going to NYC... The state's stance on the 2nd amendment is another reason to avoid being in that state as well.
..Amen. BEST post..
If you have a drone in NYC that looks like a pigeo, flaps like a pigeon, you’ll be fine everybody hates pigeons.
I suspect the reason NY wants all the local elected officials notified is to allow them to anticipate and deal with incoming complaints from the public. If that's a good thing, maybe there's a different or easier way of accomplishing it without all the bureaucracy. I dunno.
I suspect it's so they can solicit bribes. This is NYC government we're talking about. I was born, raised, and lived most of my life there.
⚠️ WRONG ANSWER ! 😉
The notification is required in order to provide ample warning and give the weasel DEMONCRAP politicians time….
To HIDE their crooked dealings and to obfuscate all of their corrupt activities.
Drone Control = similar to “Common Sense” Gun Control.
It’s the method of canceling out Constitutional Protections.
While drones do not possess dedicated Constitutional Protection, the tyranny is just as obvious.
If I was flying near NYC, I’d send my DJI gear to someone doing “mods” to remove DJI’s NFZ Crap. (or buy a $50 buck piece of software to do it myself… IF tech savvy and handy.
If I paid big $$ for a drone product, the manufacturer should absolutely not have the right to enforce ANYTHING on the pilot.
The obligation to comply with all rules and regulations is the Pilot’s job and responsibility.
New York City has 5 bouroughs. I see people flying in the Bronx or Brooklyn, but Manhattan is off limits. Many cities have landing and take off requirements for cinematic productions, with or without UAVs. What they want to do is to make money off this generally old and ugly city, with mediocre modern architecture.
Manhattan is largely off limits already, simply because of the FAA's own rules regarding flights over people, line of sight, and so forth - without really needing interference from outdated NYC laws that ban everything. But could people theoretically go and fly responsibly in places like Van Cortlandt, Pelham Bay, Alley Pond, Cunningham, Flushing Meadows, Marine Park, some parts of Prospect Park? Totally. NYC could absolutely dial its rules way back and still have a pretty good balance of rules in place... instead of just dangerously telling everyone "call 911 if you see a drone anywhere in NYC," which is literally the current NYC policy.
Just another good reason to never visit NY again.
What a joke.
it's all BS just fly the dam toy drone
Blah, I live in NYC. If I fly, it’s from AMA fields or just go outside of the city to fly. NYC sucks, it’s another reason why I will leave this cesspool as soon as I can.