Landing A Cessna 172 | Flight Training | How to Airplane ✈️
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2019
- Part 2 ....Private pilot student working on takeoffs & landings. This was flight lesson 2 and the student was doing awesome!
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If that was only his second flight he's doing pretty well that's a sign of a great instructor
Thanks! He did awesome !
NERO AVIATION Yes I agree, great instructor talks the student through well.
Man. I remember my first instructor. It was horrific. He was constantly on edge and got upset pretty quick. I endured that for about ten hours. After that I told him to look for someone else. The second instructor was much, much better. But I never had an instructor like this student. That would`ve been awesome. This instructor knows how to calm down the student and get his attention. Polite and competent. Now, and I can see that everybody here agrees, that`s how it should be.
Yeah it makes it tough to learn when your instructor is wound up. Glad you didn’t just accept it like a lot of student do. If your not clicking with your instructor then try another don’t settle if you can help it.
I actually have had a few students that don’t like how I teach/instruct, but it’s all about the student learning so I don’t take offense (to each his own.)
Thank you for the awesome comment ! I appreciate it !!!
Newbies only vocabulary is, "OKAY.... Riiiight.... yup, Riiiiiiiiight. :)
Uh huh
Bobby cuz if you used more words the plane would crash due to being task saturated 😂 what you want to say is What the heck are u talking about?
When I start my lessons I’m going to say.... “if you say so!!!”
Say what??
Just looked at the student's death grip and turning the yolk as if that turns the airplane on the ground. We all were there, lovely!
Where was the egg yolk? On the yoke?
I did that, too! On my very first lesson I did the death grip with both hands in level flight at 1200ft when a sudden hearty gust of wind blew the tail upward and nosed us down a bit. That spooked me for a moment--it was actually my first time in a small plane in anything more than calm winds.
The ol’ white knuckle death grip. Three fingers is the goal.
haha steering the yoke on the ground that made my day
Awesome instructor. Very patient, and willing to let the student land "poorly" so that he can learn to do it well.
Very good flight instruction (not to mention cool headed on that last landing). Good video for anyone interested in taking flight lessons. Flying the aircraft is actually very simple. It's the very heavy multitasking that makes it challenging to the new students. But no worries, it soon becomes easier when your internal copilot (muscle memory) begins to control the aircraft, allowing you to concentrate on other important things. But yes at first it is overwhelming (airspeed, course corrections, hold altitude, bank angle, RPM's, traffic, trim, course, attitude, engine guage scan....).
I took a flight lesson in the same type aircraft. Ours had the glass panels though.
This was amazing to watch, I love the analogies, practicality yet keeping it light hearted but serious at the same time. Perfect instructor
This instructor is fantastic! Calm and collective and giving all the right info
Although yoke input is needed while taxing in windy conditions. I would suggest having this student sit on his hands during taxing for a while. The yoke is not a steering wheel. 👍🏽
You sound like the flight instructor I wish I would of had back when I first took a couple flying lessons more years ago than I want to think about. Who knows, maybe I would have kept it up and fulfilled a dream and got my license!
Fun video! I'll keep watching, thanks!
You can still do it tho.
Do it man!!! Never too late!👍👍...I had my private pilot for 10 years, then finally got my instrument and then commercial . Best thing I could have done
. Plus o learned so much
It's never too late. Flying can be a great hobby (although expensive). Don't give up on your dreams.
My thoughts exactly! I also quit after a while (10 hrs) partially because I had a young instructor with very little patience and personality. It was over 30 years ago and it still bothers me to this day that I never went back. Now I can't afford it.
LOL,,, Oren says, it was UGLY but I didnt touch a thing.. LOVE IT... Hes an amazing instructor. I brought him to TN twice to instruct me on my landings that I was struggling with using a local instructor..
Thank you. I'm really grateful for your videos I fly at Thun and find these extremely helpful in my student endeavors!!
I want that instructor. What a calm and great person to learn from!
i wish you still made videos like these. I'm prepping for my ppl and this is really helping me calm my nerves. its really showing me what to expect with no filters. thank you for posting this!
Hey Rosemary thank you for watching. Don’t stress you’ll do great ! Fly more and have fun.
I have 5 terabytes of video ! I just got new editing software and my braces come off next month ( so i can do voice overs again).
Ill try to get videos up on a regular basis this year ! I need to hire a editor lol.
Ill see if I cant make another landing video asap (they seem to be the most popular anyway).
Here is a list of private pilot check ride prep. I go over it a few days before my students go on their check-rides. Maybe see if you have a local “cheat sheet” or “gouge” also.
docs.google.com/file/d/1JwwTS3Ct0HreG-zxvsBfZrg_mKuWVh0r/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword
I love the instructor and the student.
That’s one chill instructor. Mine was good, too. Miss those days!
Death grip white knuckles on the yoke. Been there done that! Lol
Just did my demo ride in a 172 yesterday. Watching this is great review and prep for my next lesson. Thank you so much for sharing.
Awesome ! Have fun !!! Thanks for watching !
Having the student flying in the round out controlling drift and touchdown and manipulating power over a long distance is extremely helpful. I love requesting long landings on an non busy 10,000 foot runway.
Yeah the power out “plop” over and over again is not really teaching them how to land but how to time the Cessnas landing so it’s soft. Where as using power your landing the plane when you want not just when the plane quits flying.
Just be careful with the slow flight down the runway, there’s a reason the ACS says 1500 ft. I always tell my students not to do it on their own. It’s a great teaching tool though and you don’t see many instructors that even know to use it.
I remember this all so well ...
Great instructor and amazing landings for lesson two.
What a beautiful and clean Cessna!
Great instructor letting you fly the plane and instructing throughout.
Wow. This was beyond helpful to me. Thanks! Learning to fly and land in a sim. I successfully landed in grass without knowing how to land, took off again, then crashed trying to land on the actual run way. lol. This helped me understand how to use flaps and confirmed how fiddly this plane is. Subbed. It also gave me anxiety. :)
I get stressed all the lights off using headset in my sim at home. sims are good training tools !
Have fun and landing in sims can be harder then real life ... not enough feedback. Sims are all visual so its challenging to land.
Awesome instructing buddy. You just taught this guy to land like an airliner.
I’m taking that as a complement lol .
Thanks for watching!
Wow what a crazy landing! But he did it.
How fun! Looking forward to Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 after watching this (getting a little too old for the real thing)
What's the update on the availability ?
It cracked me up so hard 5:10😂😂😂 But I feel you man. I feel you as a fellow CFI. I was like “nooo......pppeeee right rudder right right right...!!!!”.
Lol 😂 thanks for watching! Got a little squirrelly there for a second.
Wow! Second flight! More like 8th flight. Y'all are both great!
I like the confidence of the instructor... "That was all you!" and it wasn't down the line landing.
Wow! This is an excellent instructor! JA
wow i would love to have a flight instructer like that he is very nice and he can fly well which means he must have a very experienced and good flight instructer
Sometimes I ask student to move hands from a control column during ground roll for better understanding that it is not used for directional control on the ground.
Yeah, treating the yoke like a steering wheel can be a tough habit to break.
Hmmm I'm actually gonna try that. Can't keep their hand on the throttle or focus on the pedals... So they will only get to touch those and I have the yoke for this takeoff lmfao
Fun. Thanks!
Good job! Great instructor!
If I ever take flying lessons that's going to be me wanting to (over)correct for every little bump in the air--while gripping the yoke like a vice!
One of the best Cessna 172..
Great instructor
Remember my first landing, was a bumpy weather, not a perfect center line, but it was landing you remember for all of your life.
I had an awesome instructor as this one, very calm and knows exactly what to say and what to do to make you become kickass pilot!
And the best thing he teach me is "You can always go around"! It's way better to G/A in case of something and be able to fly the bird again, just use this. Not looking good even if you are on glideslope and centerline, but your feeling is not the best, just, go around!
Great advice! “You can always go around” Student can get in the mindset that go arounds mean they are failing when in fact it shows they are in control and making good decisions. I like to see go arounds !
Thanks for watching!
My first takeoff was behind a FedEx DC10 in Memphis and my first landing on that flight was in front of a FedEx DC10. The takeoff didn’t bother me but seeing that huge plane to my left as I turned final scared the crap out of me.
I've only set foot in a private plane once, and it was as a passenger. I felt like throwing up the entire time thanks to a *really* windy day. So as someone with effectively 0 experience flying planes, even *I* have to agree with the other commenters. He seems like a great instructor even to someone like me with no experience whatsoever! Somebody press Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, we need like, at least a hundred more of this guy!
Thank you !
Awesome video. You should be proud!
that was awesome
thanks!
Being a pilot is my dream and I could learn something from your videos about flying so thanks and keep up the good work also your a great flight instructor
Thank you!
You won’t regret getting your pilots license! (Your bank account might regret it, but you won’t lol ).
I have a student that pretty much taught him self to land watching my videos. He hired me after watching all my videos over and over and surprisingly he learned a lot from them all I had to do was work on his confidence to implement it and tweak a little here and there.
Don’t use videos for learning purposes for flight it might help knowing what knots is or what altitude is if u want to learn u need to learn and be there yourself be in that seat flying that plane taking off and having an instructor
Awesome.
Fantastic instructor
From all the comments below I feel like I was blessed with a great primary instructor - a young kid right out of Embry Riddle who had patience, a calm and calming demeanor,
Brian Longen, who was a fantastic instructor. My recurrent instructor is every bit as good, Dustin Showalter! I'm very lucky and wish all new pilot wannabees could be as fortunate. When I started IFR training I already knew what a good instructor is and how they should conduct themselves so when I got a complete jerk of an instructor for IFR I fired him after 1 lesson and found a good one. I never did finish IFR but I'm not dead yet so maybe it's still a possibility.
Second flight and he's landing? Wow! I am on my 4th flight and I have been taking off but haven't landed yet. That might be coming soon though. Great instructor!
Thanks ! He struggled later don’t worry lots of bad landings in later lessons lol.
Landings are harder when you try to land. The Cessna 172 should get half the credit for most landings anyway ( the good half at that).
Thanks for watching!
Stay light on the controls and as you flare keep building back pressure until it looks like takeoff ... maybe a 1/4 or less of the runway will be visible over the cowling. As you build back pressure you also have to build right rudder pressure to keep the nose straight.
Also don’t “ try to land” just burn off the airspeed just above the ground until it sets down gently.
Now forget all that ...fly more and have fun !
I’ve just started my flying lesson.
Great instructor!
I like these instructors
Nice, I'm enjoying watching this video, Your CFI is really good.
Thanks ! I’m actually the CFI so lots of videos on the channel like this one!
Thank you for watching and the complement !
The instructor is great 😊😊👍👍
Good flight instructor!
excellent instructor, not freaking out the student.
Thanks for upload..good job
Waaay fun! Thanks for vid.
Thanks! More videos on the way !
Practice.. practice.. practice!!!
Fantastic instruction. Learning a ton from listening and watching
Can't wait 'til im old enough to fly
Well I got nervous there for a second. For a second lesson that was good. I just love those C-172s. They are so nobile.
Yeah, C172s are pretty amazing! Forty plus years of student landings and they are still flying great!
@@NEROAviation Thanks you Nero
Excellent
Awesome
Great video! Just wondering how you hook you hook up your GoPro, do you stick it on a mount then tape it to the ceiling of the plane?
Suction cup to the top of the front window. I have a 12inch arm on my suction mount and it works well with the go pro. Just make sure you get the hands in the video ! I have deleted a lot of boring video that just shows the front panel and the view out the window.
I didn't get to see all the video but the instructor is very good his job.
The student was fishing on the controls because he is not into trimming the airplane. Over control is typical to a new pilot, awesome work guys!
Yeah that’s right there is no mention of trimming the airplane at any moment or through the video ! Maybe that comes with the time
Excellent instruction. I had a crabby old guy that made no bones about it that he was doing it because he couldn’t retire, and he made it pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there. Almost no instruction other than “rudder, watch the horizon, speed etc” I got they my solo and stopped. Wanting to get back to it.
Get your private! It’s totally worth it!
I hope my first landings on this sunday are as good as these.
I think Rob Schneider said it best ....” You can do it! “ .
Thanks for watching and best of luck ! Good landings or bad landings just have fun and fly more !
Any landing where the wheels are on the ground is a good landing! LOL
Glenn Anderson and, how did it go?
wow.. I am nervous just watching.. I can't imagine how my first flight will be... Good flying
Hopefully you’ll have a blast ! Have fun !
That’s my home airfield! I’ve been doing my flight training across the way from you at Spana
Its an awesome area to learn in ! So many awesome landmarks, cool airspace , and airports all over! Say hi to Colton
Phenomenal
No need for Trim? Auto trim?
I did my first landing a couple months ago, let just say I slammed the ground.
Enjoying your videos man thank you.
Everyone slams a few landings. I have had more than my fair share of hard landings. Keep at it!
My first landing was perfect, I got lucky, and my CFI made sure that there were no crosswinds at all that day. The next few were a little rough. I never spilled his coffee though.
Dang I hope I pick it up as easy as this kid. First flight on monday! (I've got 5 un logged hours at the controls so itll hopefully be easy)
Just have fun ! You’ll do great !
You also might listen to LiveATC.net .Radio calls are usually the hardest part for new pilots ... that or landing lol 😂. Don’t worry about it for the first flight though.
@@NEROAviation that's a great tip thanks. I'm flying out of a rather large towered airport so that will probably be helpful.
Oh man, reminded me of my first time taking off. Cool instructor!
Awesome for your second flight. I just did my first and completely bombed 😂
I’m sure it wasn’t that bad... and if a student does too well I have to show them all the wrong ways anyway. Just have fun and keep at it!
Awesome I’ll check it out !
Hello Mr CFII. On take off roll, at what airspeed (or what point) should one begin to build back pressure to avoid the side swings that occurred on the first take off? I have been having a problem with these minor swings especially in windy conditions.
Just a CFI... CFII is an instrument instructor.
I like to build back pressure little by little as the controls “come alive “ . Air is moving over the control surface as you start your takeoff roll ... try to feel it.
Usually about 40 knots You should feel the controls easily. And the plane wants to fly soon after. At about 40 knots ( in a Cessna ) you should be building back pressure to the same point you hold for climb out pitch angle ... if your going further than that your wasting motion and pulling the plane off the ground and then your fixing the issue by pushing forward.
When I fly I try to limit
wasted motion and look for ways to minimize my control inputs in order to improve my own piloting.
best of luck!
If it’s real windy that’s a matter of experience and you’ll just have to learn to ride the wind.
172 you rotate at 55 level the nose until speed builds up and climb out at 75.
Purchase a POH for the plane you're training in and read it. CFI's not only expect you to do a little studying on your own it will vastly cut down on the time you spend getting your license.
for a cessna 172, about 55 knots
if your radio frequency is set to the airport ATC tower, how do you communicate to the tower without pressing any buttons? Do you say ' Tower ' at the beginning of what your gonna say / request?
We don’t have a tower at our local airport. We press the mic button right on top of the yoke to activate the radio. You use the thumb to activate it, it’s a tiny little button on outside hand grip.
Maybe in the future we will have hands free but not yet.
Thanks for watching !
Liked it
Even I felt the pressure on the take off
Nice
awesome instructor! my landing wouldve been much worse lol
Nice video. Thank you. Notice that the PUT has his index finger over the throttle friction nut. I am a novice but found I had this problem where the friction nut kept tightening. Eventually figured it out. Now try to keep my finger against but never over the nut. Thanks again.
Thanks ! I usually teach putting a finger on the throttle friction lock so I’ll keep an eye/add a warning in the future.
2nd flight ? Damn that’s a good instructor!
I don’t believe it.
Is it possible to ground loop in a tricycle geared airplane
Anytime your wheels start getting out of line with your direction of travel your at risk of a ground loop. It’s harder to do in a tricycle gear, but not impossible. Student pilots might even find it easy to do lol.
I NEED to fly again!
Get out and do it! I miss flying after only a few days.
Not sure I can do all this ...oh just recalled. .... actually qualified some years back. Point being, it looks harder than what it is ...but you need lots of practice for the sensations to become 'normal'
Good advice !
“Have fun & fly more “ is pretty much all I usually say for a debrief. It’s amazing how much students learn in less than 100 hrs!
Hello NERO AVIATION, great video, really enjoy it 😎😎😎 One question... Do you apply back pressure when you're on your takeoff roll or do you only apply back pressure when you are at VR?
Hey Josh, I apply pressure on take off roll slowly building it till the plane takes off on its own. I feel the elevator coming alive as the air /aircraft starts to pick up speed. You should end up with the yoke pulled back to the position you’ll need for climb out. I don’t yank the plane off I let it take off and climb out with little to no change in yoke position. If I have to make a change I used too little or too much elevator. I like having positive pressure on my rear landing gear. If you do the Vr and yank method you get a little squirrelly before you start flying depending on wind and the aircraft.
There might be a good reason for the Vr and yank method in larger aircraft I don’t know.
For small aircraft where you can feel your elevator I suggest building pressure slowly until lift off keeping positive pressure on the landing gear.
Thanks for watching and the insightful question !
Thanks for the thorough reply. I really do appreciate it. Keep up the good work captain! 👨✈️ most importantly... stay safe!😎😎😎
Good job 👌, My instructor was yelling at me on my first landing 🤦♂️
I don’t expect it could have been too bad. First landings are always fun!
How long does it take to become accustomed to talking with ATC and Local traffic? I haven’t soloed yet and I’m kind of nervous about saying something wrong. Any tips? Websites?
Don’t worry about it is my advice ... we all mess up. Even ATC messes up now and then.
I would listen to liveATC.net and pretend your one of the planes flying around and copy calls or make them first. It will give you an “ear” for ATC.
I used to listen while driving ... but use cation though lol.
It looked like the takeoff/landing was herky jerky(skiddish from left to right), is that due to pilot inexperience or are these Cessnas that shaky during those periods?
Inexperience, he was playing with his rudder pedals a lot trying to keep it straight and getting a feel for them. He was just learning to taxi so he did well just keeping it headed in the right direction. Its counter intuitive to steer with your feet and it takes a while to do it smoothly.
Nice observation ! Thanks for watching !
Right......
My instructor said that i will probably get to do my first solo in a couple months on my 16th birthday.
Awesome !
I like
Full stop was I was thinking too lol
Can someone who knows a lot about the Cessna 172S or Cessna's in general help me. I'm looking at the Cessna 172S POH and it says, do not prime the engine, if the engine is warm...can someone tell me what is considered as warm?
Usually if it has already had a flight that day I don’t prime. If it doesn’t start after the first try I prime it once and try again. Works on most Cessna 172.
Good luck !
Do you use specific rpms on downwind, base, and final?
Great question sorry for the slow reply !
So we try to fly 80kts on the downwind which keeps us in the flap range. Usually thats 1900-2000 Rpm. And abeam the numbers we reduce it to 1500 and add the flaps starting our decent to landing.
Thanks for watching !
I thought you used the pedals for the rudder to steer on the runway?
You do use the peddles to steer on the ground and they keep your turns coordinated in flight.
On the ground depending on the aircraft design it maneuvers your front wheel and allows for breaking each main wheel independently. The peddles also moves your rudder left and right which helps in flight with keeping cordinated in turns by countering Adverse Yaw. The rudder is also super helpful when fighting a cross wind and keeping your aircraft flying straight down the center line on landing.
If you were being sarcastic lol also as that’s a pretty common comment for students at around lesson 5 or so when the instructor realizes he/she hasn’t emphasized rudder use enough and the student has their feet doing nothing. If it wasn’t sarcastic good thing you caught it now some pilots never really get rudder use if they miss it in primary training they can stay “lazy” about it. It’s a Dpe pet peeve.
Thanks for watching !!!
I can only do this on flight simulator and that's what I will stick to haha.