Didn't think Osteo, Lament AND Divinity would get nerfed, but here we are.
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- bungie dropped a fat weapon tuning update for final shape. i was out all day, so i couldn't record until now. i read the article and give a quick take on everything happening. i'm sorry it's so long, but i had a lot to say. i wanted to call this "final shape patch notes to read and fall asleep to," for the record. it's funny, but not much of an attention grabber.
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Lament catching a stray is the weirdest change to me, it's not even the highest DPS sword in the game and it still has extremely inconsistent tracking which results in even lower damage output
True, but it's damage isn't changing that much. It's getting the benefit of the overall sword damage buff but it is getting a charged heavy damage nerf. I'm not sure how that works out in terms of DPS. The real nerf is to the healing, which is somewhat understandable because it makes using it in things like Ghosts of the Deep and Crota's End a trivial choice for relevant encounters. As long as the damage works out similar, I don't think this is too bad.
Another annoying about Bungie's attention to it is that a while back (maybe a year ago, or longer) they fixed the whiffing on airborne enemies just for it to break the very next season, and they just never bothered with it again.
weapon still broken with high frame rates but destiny developers dont work so
This def feels like another case of hurr durr high usage = nerf which shouldnt always be the case maybe buff the other exotic swords lol
It’s the best sword in the game and has been for years
Datto: I love pulse rifles! One of my best friends is a pulse rifle
Is it Jez? I think it's Jez. It's probably Jez.
Let me know if it's Jez.
😅😅😅778😅😮😮@@seriouslyigiveup😅😅
Haha yeah I had the same thought
This comment made me chuckle. But yes the switch up from pulse rifles are dog to I love pulse rifles is pretty ridiculous 😂
I heard this in Shane Gillis's impression. Lol
Onslaught was basically 1 year of weapon data for Bungie in 1 month. That's optimal.
Holy crap it actually does centralise the 'How do players see these weapons' MASSIVELY
This is a neat way of looking at it
Huh. That's why they didn't want to release everything early during Into the Light. They mainly wanted to get info about the non patch weapons and builds. That is A LOT of info fs.
Except they would've seen Indebted Kindness being a top 3 weapon. Literally never had someone use Osteo or Lament in my runs.
@@manynukes11 was more of a joke. I'm guessing one+ month out was not enough to fully utilize the data from Onslaught, and Bungie probably had most of these changes already in mind. But, for the future, or even for Final Shape, they probably stumbled upon the realization that Onslaught prints weapon and armor data. You can go in and use almost anything and get tons of kills, but the harder levels do start to narrow down choices. That in-activity transition from freedom to "meta" is unique data and is at a scale they haven't been able to see before, not to mention the sheer volume of kills that occur.
Lament: beat out by 4 legendary swords
Bungie: Let’s nerf lament
It's use case in day one raids for high damage and really high survivability made it far to strong.
There's 100% going to be a close range boss in TFS raid and this is a preemptive nerf.
@@mp-ck4jh yet people can just use the swords that were already better. A blanket sword nerf would have made sense for what you suggest
@bugg6597 it wasn't a damage issue the 20% heavy nerf will be negligible to total damage. The big issue was top 5 sword damage with infinite health while doing it
@@bugg6597 It's not about the damage, it's about the survivability, Lament's damage was nerfed yeah but the biggest nerf was to the healing. The raid boss will probably have some stomp or AOE that Lament was out healing so Bungie made this nerf.
SWEATY CONFETTI IS BACK BABY
Fucking HUGE!!!
Sweaty confetti enjoyers stay winning
Literally slapping that on every weapon I own cause why the fuck not!
YOOOOGE
my Conmemoration: a gun so packed up in all stats that it doesn't need any mod, from the day it dropped... and having a hell of a good time with confetti since then
9:37 -The Datto AI becomes self aware
The patch-note reader and idea giver gained conscious 💀
Lmao first time I’ve ever seen Datto stop mid video for smt so small
This was such a stoner moment, but AFAIK Datto doesn't smoke. 😅
Lolll
@@Hugh_Jasespecially because he wasn’t talking any faster than normal, at all lmao
I like how he told Danielle that SHE was going through a tunnel.
"I'm NOT a dumb Titan :("
9:38 This is an extremely Danielle-pilled, anxiety-filled tangent. Love that.
finally, my 15,000 kill cerberus has new life. Danielle, I and the rest of the cerberus crew can rejoice
Me, at the start of a crucible match to my team: “don’t worry guys, I’ll put on div for this encounter”
The weird thing about the Kinetic boss damage nerf is that Kinetics aren't able to be surge matched with your heavy. Stasis/Strand weapons with the same optimal perks as their kinetic counterparts will instantly outclass the kinetics now (at least, until they fix the kinetic overcharge from subclass surge matching not working)
Not to also mention, this nerf may also hit things like Witherhoard and Mountaintop by, if we go off kinetic buffs in the past combined, an almost 15% or more damage change. Cause it specifies Kinetic weapons but doesnt exclude exotics and the sorts.
So if this ends up being the case then damn.
@@XanderZeidel Which will also mean, say goodbye to non DPS heavies that rely on using specials while your heavy deals passive damage (like Dragons Breath)
this week at bungie, revision zero buffs, part 5000
mercules slowly making it more meta with each patch
Idk ... they wouldn't have nerfed Kinetic damage to bosses
I love the gun and I'm glad it keeps getting buffed but it was pretty OP at launch. Idk why Bungie thinks it needs more buffs. If it's a usage thing, the problem is that there are just way too many good kinetic exotic primaries. It's literally sharing a slot with a craftable Outbreak ffs, of course its usage isn't that high.
@@underscore_5450 It's not OP in the slightest. I wouldn't use Outbreak or Revision Zero, not even in Grandmaster Strikes due to Wishender being flatly superior and options like Izanagi or Supremacy or Witherhoard carry way more potential for damage rotations. Outbreak shines when 5 other guardians use it but even then it's not meta. The kinetic nerf affects the pulse rifles too but because they are getting like 30% buff the total output is a bit better. This is Bungie nerfing current meta builds that might outperform new weapons in TFS.
All this and 1k still can’t even be given a 7% damage buff 😢 they just don’t want us to use that thing
it got the reserves buff tho. its actually alright dps supposedly with ember of ashes to cause an ignition every shot as well, just not total damage wise, so the reserves buff pumped that up
Why does 1000 Yard Stare need a damage buff?
@@TheFirstCurse11k voices bruh
It blows my mind that they don’t just give it controlled burst
@@Kiwaaka very good idea I like
The Colony might actually be fun now
Warlocks: “la cretura”
My threadling, swarmers and colony hive mind build manifesting an unending wave of violence on my foes
(No seriously, weavewalk with this buffed colony active in an ad clear encounter, you will likely spam out threadling after threadling)
It’s good because if there’s one thing Destiny 2 lacks it’s a way to clear out large numbers of minor enemies.
I hope so. It's a good looking exotic, but I never use it because it sucks.
That does make using it very tempting.
One bot kill gives you additional bots that'll seek enemies. Depending on the situation it basically doubles your magazine capacity.
I'M CALLING IT NOW! the final shape raid will have an encounter where sword dps is needed, thats why lament is getting nerfed
I feel like there's gonna be a boss like Rhulk or Caiatl that moves around a lot
@@jackalexandecaital? you don’t use swords for her wym…
@@sirjamjam101you def can’t read well and are jumping to conclusions on that one. He said bosses that move around a lot. Reading comprehension issue
@@sirjamjam101 i mean you can, most people just dont
@@jaredelliott5778 yeah but no one does so… that’s my point…
Lament had no reason to get nerfed. It was a good weapon that was also in a meta full of Rockets, Linears, and GLs.
Insane choice by Bungie, wtf are they thinking
@@butternutsauce Might align with some other future changes, who knows.
It’s like QSS. It got nerfed because of usage rates imo
They're preemptively keeping it from being the new meta. Nerfing rockets, GLs and LFRs (especially with the Div Nerf) would make it too good compared to the weapons that are harder to use
Maybe they nerfed it cuz of pantheon atraks being the second good thing along with parasite
Deterministic Chaos needs a mag size boost and a reserves boost to really make it worth using your power + exotic slot on
And an increase to reload speed. Tired of exotics with slow as molasses reload speed
It needs the thunderlord trait for sure or change rate of fire be faster also needs massive damage buff
Necrotic Warlocks have already moved over to thorn since the catalyst dropped. With all the hand cannon buffs recently, and the fact that they are multiplicative with the Exotic Primary Ammo buff, very few of us stayed on striga.
Its osteo striga or nothing.
@@calus_bath_waterOsteo sucks now. Feels so weak compared to Thorn
@@Primorion nuh uh
my lvl 280 BXR is crying tears of joy right now. Love these pulse changes
damn! my level 195 bxr is jealous
My uncrafted bxr isn't jealous... it's in my vault dusty cuz i hate it😂 idk why, just never liked the feel lol rapid fires have always been my shit that's probably why haha
Rapid fires are my jam as well.@@alexcurtis8132
Gonna turn into an Exotic in GM's
Damn i need to up my ante
If deterministic chaos is supposed to be a champion gun, then I want suppression on my 16th shot. Maybe a catalyst that moves weaken to every 8th, and then introduces suppression at the 16th, so you get a big bullet at the end triggering all 3 effects
Personally I'd like for the catalyst to have Repulsor Brace and while you have an overshield any enemies damaged by volatile explosions caused by deterministic chaos are suppressed. Really lean into that void 3.0 synergy.
Still nothing about my dear wavesplitter. One day you'll have a catalyst my love :(
Cool shader you've got on your shirt Datto!
That's his dog.
@@seriouslyigiveupand that’s a joke 😭😭😭
@@ewaggatron haha
I had that exact change in mind for deterministic chaos a week ago when I watched a video on forgotten exotics. Make it the void counterpart to thunderlord and I'll finally consider using it. Now all i need is for xenophage to stun unstops and somehow synergize with solar verbs and we'll have the d1 exotic lmg trio spiced up for d2 after almost 8 years
It should do what thunderlord does and all bullets weaken
@@ericx6969 I don't think you would need that much more weaken unless you could, specifically with this gun, stack either a greater weaken effect or a longer lasting weaken with each weakening shot.
This is my happiest change. I’m so excited to use deterministic as my heavy on void now.
@@alaskayoung3413I wouldn’t be. Deterministic chaos does about half the dps that thunder lord does. Even with this change it will only increase the number of volatile explosions which deal about 5k per hit on a boss from 3 per reload to 12 per reload.
For comparison thunderlord against aetheon before tp does 630k damage (that’s without a weaken), deterministic chaos does 330k. This will not close the gap in any meaningful way.
In terms of enemy clear it’s also still worse than commemoration or hammerhead.
It’s still a dead gun.
@@daveb7049 true but I’m also factoring in the team play of weakening and having a anti champ mod for free especially on void which is like the least anti champ stuff built into the kit.
Lament , just like the fighting lion , just got shot for no reason.
wth r u saying FL is good 💀
Bungie looking at Lament the same way Yuul looked at Xol. Targeting my boy for no reason
(Yuul was hungry)
Funny that the three best exotics made available by making shadowkeep, beyond light, and witch queen free are all getting nerfed...
I wonder if it's because their usage went up 🤔 Bungie's balancing ethos is so fucked
The Bastion change seems really cool, it's like a combo of one-two punch and trench barrel now.
So you're saying that BoW Titan has a new toy to play with?
@@angelousmortis8041with how they changed weapons, you can bet that they murdered banner of war
Bastion + Karnenstien Armlets is going to go hard
Ophidian Spathe Hunters are gonna be stomping.
Currently devastated about the Deconstruct nerf. I have an Albedo Wing with Replenishing Aegis and Deconstruct and it had SUPERB sustained tanking.
Absolutely sucks that they decided to nerf it instead of fixing the bug with explosive weapons.
Absolutely killed deconstruct as a perk imo...
Can i ask you what the ammo glitch did that bungie mentioned?
@@itsbooshie well, impact damage and explosive damage would count s 2 hits, and hitting multiple enemies with one explosion would count as multiple hits, refunding ammo if you hit enough enemies
It really wasn't that broken
On the bright side, my BXR is going to SHRED in GMs. I'm excited.
10:44 for the people who care about things that actually matter
Thanks, no idea what this "datto" guy is reading came here for the doggo
Brim is smarter in PvE than 95% of the player-base simply by being in the same room as Datto.
I am pretty allergic to most animals, so don't give a shit about pets, but I enjoy Brim moments more than most Destiny content.
Not sure if I missed you mentioning it, but these aren't big buffs to damage for weapons. They're removing the damage mods, so everything is losing 8.9% against some enemy. So hand cannons getting a 5% buff to damage ends up being a 3.9% aggregate nerf, probably against red bars as most would have a minor spec on. For Fusions, snipers, glaives, and linears they're all getting nerfed for majors/bosses (whichever spec you'd run). So only those getting a 20% buff are really getting a buff, and it ends up being 11% since no spec mods.
They aren’t outright removing the damage mods, they are putting the bonuses from those mods into the weapons so there won’t be a need to use them anymore
They aren't putting the bonuses for those mods into the weapons, they said they're buffing the damage to weapons almost universally in the article, then they listed the damage increases below, which is what I was talking about. In his video Datto was acting like some weapon types were getting a good buff, example some at 10%, but after accounting for the loss of damage from a mod it's only a 1.1% buff for the enemy type you would most likely have used that weapon for. And like I said, those getting a 5% buff are actually getting nerfed by losing 3.9% in damage.
@@drphumbles I see what you mean I re-read that part of the article and I misinterpreted it the first time thinking that they were gonna build the damage into most of the weapons. That’s interesting
I'm glad everyone's opinion came out right as I was going to bed so I can sleep soundly.
We have 7 exotic pulse rifles. 5 are kinetic, 2 are void. Bungie, bruh… Give us some variety if pulses are getting buffed… Make two of those kinetics strand & stasis. Or somethin…
So true. Of the kinetic pulse rifles, I can think of only 2 that should actually stay kinetic, and that's Revision Zero and Outbreak.
No Time should have and would have been a stasis weapon on launch, but Bungie didn't start making stasis weapons until 3 seasons later.
Bad Juju would be awesome as strand, but would also be great with Osmosis/Permeability.
Part of the problem is that with the new "element identity" and subclass 3.0, Bungie feels like every weapon with an element has to have subclass tie-ins. We don't just get elemental exotics that do cool unique stuff, they have to have debuffs or buffs (look at any exotic released or changed in the past year)
So all these old kinetic primary weapons that don't have subclass tie-ins just stay boring, even if they could be really interesting if just given an element.
Vigilance Wing could be Solar. No TimeTE could become arc or stasis?
@@cobefriend7797 red death is going to be solar
consider hand cannons
Bungie has always been bad at diversifying weapons with different energy types.
Cerberus is a 70% damage buff in its alternate mode, but with over half the ROF.
With them removing its ROF and range penalties, it’ll be an absolute monster. 100% recommend people keep an eye out for it.
Quick note on Chill Clip. Even with only requiring 2 shots to freeze, Aurvandil being a high-impact means it's still slower to freeze than the 3 shots from Riptide. Deliverance and Burden of Guilt will be faster, however.
"Pulse rifles are for less skilled players due to them being easier to use and intended for safer engagement distances"
"Pulse rifles don't really have a place in the game anymore"
"Pulse rifles are dog"
"I love pulse rifles"
-Datto 2018-2024
I feel like this felt like an amazing video. Probably seeing Datto as excited brougth the video so up.
My lvl 605 Osteo (85,000 kills) is contemplating jumping off the edge of the Throne World and ending itself
Wow, you have more than me on Osteo.
Hear me out, bastion for consecration build. See an unstoppable, fire a bastion shot, stun it, gain extra damage and then do a consecration and one shot it
Bastion for BoW Titan.
You've got me interested, especially with Pyrogale.
Is it still considered one shot when you've already shot Bastion?🤔
43:07 Swashbuckler***
Thank you for sharing. This was great! 💚
Titles have been on point datto. Also, intros, very nice. Thank you for your service.
Missed opportunity to give Symmetry Seekers back their Overload intrinsic...😢
Or any kind of arc verb
It's sad bro :(
@@theveryamericaneagle3657 even sadder is the touch of malice buffs are probably worse
I'm not exactly a 'Desconstruct Expert'™, but I did get a Ros Arago roll w Subsistence and Deconstruct and it's actually been REALLY fun to play around with! A lot of people kinda gloss over the fact that it refills the mag in addition to the damage boost, and paired with Subsistence it's kinda like having two ammo perks and a minor damage perk! Very fun.
We woo decon go brrrrrrrrrrrrr
Deconstruct changes don’t really affect primaries. but the changes will kill the use on any heavy or special weapons because every other reload perk will be more beneficial.
Ager's stonks going up next season, and I'm here for it. Super excited to try Appetence and Incisor as well. Basically any trace rifle.
I'm an Ager's main, so I'm gonna have a blast. I did use Osteo on my Hunter tho.
Love these long videos. Great to watch at work just enjoy hearing you talk Destiny. Thanks man
Strange they mention the fundamentals and Borealis when that sniper is in desperate need of an overhaul. Hell where’s the love for Sturm. So many y1 exotics in strange places and still to this day haven’t been touched
IMO they should've made it so that high impact fusions just freeze on landing all bolts, it takes WAY too long to charge two shots when compared to Deliverance getting two off before a Aruvandil can even halfway charge its second shot.
This would also give Conditional Finality a bit more competition.
I'll keep using Riptide, by the time I charge the second shot of that omlon fusion a GM champ can clap my cheeks, tbag and harass me in DMs
@@antiimperialista5764 i only really dusted it off for the stasis surge on pantheon tbh lol but if it could freeze in one burst it'd be super good precharged
ngl the phone call with his Cerberus expert slapped me in the face and called me single
DMT - controller 🎮 user here. I was cleaning up with DMT during these last two Iron Banner weeks. 50/50 hipfire vs. FP. Looking forward to seeing how these changes improve things more.
Keep this in mind:
"Also note that, because Exotic weapons can't equip mods, this gives them a larger relative buff than Legendaries, e.g., Riskrunner's maximum possible damage is increased 10% versus red bars, but Shayura's Wrath's is increased by 3% in effect because it can no longer slot a Minor Spec mod. "
So Riskrunner is getting the 10% SMG buff, but losing the exotic red bar buff from 40 to 30%. So its only gettting a 2-3% buff over that it is doing now.
Hand Cannons are getting a nerf technically. Legendaries are losing minor spec (7%) but getting a 5% buff. So its getting a 2-3% nerf. Which legendary HCs didn't need. Exotic HCs are getting a 5% nerf since 40 to 30% exotic red bar buff decrease, but then getting the 5% buff.
Nothing like some unnecessary nerfs to put a dent in all the goodwill they made with into the light
32:15 - this little interaction is so beautiful and wholesome!
Loving the intros, I feel like ur humor would absolutely slap in video essays.
Deconstruct + sticky on Edge Transit gave you +80% total effective reserves, if you landed every hit. Not a dps increase, just an overall damage increase.
Now it'll be a hyper-niche damage perk in a column full of general use damage perks... so it's dead.
Such a shame, I was loving my decon edge transit.
So glad to be seeing the Pulse changes. Outbreak craftable but also I'll be able to put this shiny Blast Furnace I grinded for to good use.
Also gigantic huge RIP for Deconstruct. My favorite perk for what it did. It might still be fun on primaries for some shenanigans like Rewind + Deconstruct but it's sad that it won't be as great on things like Tusk. It'll still be good imo in terms of the free reload but man, sad it got touched.
I use the heavy GL from guardian games in Onslaught (beside boss phases) especially when I'm paired with rank 6-7 randos, with chain reaction it is a very good panic button for times when my teammates get overwhelmed and a swarm of enemies are coming from all front a bit too close to the point. So I'm hyped it's getting buffed.
I also have a "chill clip/4th time" burst linear fusion that I can't wait to try out with the improved stasis and buffs to recoil…
I know I should keep my expectations in check but I’m hyped about TFS and tons of Datto content!
Great way to give legendary gls and rockets a 7% nerf without having to actually put in the notes
I'm so pissed about the Deconstruct nerf... The ammo regen was the only reason I kept using Tusk 😭
Super cool this Datto guy read the new patch notes during this Brim video. Nice lil bonus.
This video format and length is my jam 😊
You gotta take into account that these buffs are much smaller than the percentages on screen with the removal of the spec suite.
The 5% buff to handcannons is actually a nerf with the removal of minor spec.
Edit: Also, nagi?!
If you ran minor, sure, but not everyone did for every hand cannon
I don't feel like Hand Cannons even needed Minor Spec.
I'm more surprised it was common to run minor spec. I just put major on everything and boss on heavy. I guess this was such common information that I never heard anyone talk about it? Oh well, it's leaving anyway.
The damage will get added in because they said they’ll add in the mod damage *almost universally* and are just showing additional buffs
@@Cryptic211this isn't actually true. The quote is literally "We've increased base weapon damage almost universally...and have retired the following weapon mods". This is in reference to the buffs that are detailed in the following sections. As written, it is NOT saying they're giving weapons the spec bonuses in addition to the listed buffs.
41:09 Would love to see this change on lucky pants.
Loved the ‘phone a friend’ would enjoy seeing this implemented into more videos somehow ❤
ive been using the stasis heavy waveframe gl from neomuna for some stasis builds of mine for a while and am interested to see how much more potent that weapon's ad clear potential will be with the waveframe and chain reaction changes
That Lament nerf was just cruel, its healing already wasn’t enough to keep you alive for Crota or whatever without a well, and it’s now outclassed by multiple legendary swords for damage
The div nerf seems over kill and that osteo nerf is gonna be devastating. 4 seconds might not seem that long but we all know how long that ends up being in reality
Not really honestly. It's just gonna stop people crutching it for tormentors. Still gonna be fine for standing still boss dps situations
@@oxsila 75%, it’s gonna take almost twice as long for the cadge to appear. Sure it’s still gonna be good but like when time is damage why use it over tractor
@@FireStriker_ Yeah you just hold it down now instead of tapping it and it'll be up before you know it. It's just you'll burn through the ammo really quickly
@@oxsila actually the nerf isn’t to feathering the trigger but to how long it takes for the cadge to appear making you hold it for longer before you can start feathering.
Just use Thorn. It’s way better than osteo now. Or use nechrochasm after it gets buffs. The thrall explosions also spread poison when used with necrotic grips.
It also spreads poison and creates the thrall explosions off of body shot kills, without needing precision kills if you melee an enemy with necrotic grips before killing them with it. So with the buffs it’ll also be better than osteo.
The osteo necrotic build really helped in solar 3.0 release and dominated in void 3.0 for legend witch queen giving infinite devour uptick i only used it with strand for a little bit before switching to skyburner mantle of harmony. As for the deterministic thank god for the buff i love it on my void titan with doomfang.
I like the mod changes. You could use backup mag or even quick access sling. If people are having trouble activating bait and switch they can use quick access sling to swap shoot quicker. I like It. I like all the weapon changes. You already use div a lot on warlock and in certain types of encounters where you just never miss the boss. Plus the ammo economy with cenotaph for div is amazing so. I think it will make the new exotics coming out more appealing and people will want to chase for those. It’s exciting.
Also I would like to say. Yes more radiant stuff in the artifact next season most likely. We get the new warlock solar super. The solar exotic sniper. And the battle pass weapon is red death as a solar gun. A burst weapon to. So red death will be insane. If we don’t get solar I would be surprised. Dragons breath was the pass weapon this season so we got solar. When centrifuge was the weapon we had arc.
The opinion is here during bed time
Bungie just out here nerfing shit for no good reason
I just realized that with the grave robber change, if you have trench barrel on it as well, like it rolled on the Scourge shotgun back in the day, with the recent trench barrel rework you might be able to endlessly chain reloads while reproc’ing trench barrel at the same time
Still needs a kill
The changes to osmosis and permeability sound cool for prismatic. They could release a weapon that has both perks in different columns and it could be fun
As a sidearm enjoyer, holy shit.
My survivability sidearm healclip/frenzy qsc sidearm going to do work.
If I could ever a Heal Clip and Incandescent Heliocentric QSC I'd be so ecstatic 😭
@@Storebror492i dont even use mine anymore cuz i got the lunas and it has like 79 reload its a faster reload than my helio im still tryna get a better helio
In a game full of DPS boosting perks. It was nice to have a total-damage boosting perk like deconstruct.
It's a bit disappointing but oh well.
10:44 The highlight of this vid. Thats so fukin adorable :') Brimstone: The Goodest Of Bois
33:27 Datto LMFAO THANK YOU.
I've had a soft spot for Colony for a long time, but not used it because it's q gimmick. Definitely have to try it out again because I loved that thing so much
This just in, adept weapons are even closer to not being better than the regular versions at all
With adept back up mag, they can literally be worse, let’s goooooo thank you bungie!
@@w1zz0k12maybe wait for them to adress it, theyve got a million things to do bruh
This is the thing people aren’t getting. No point in going into a master raid, grinding it for the roll I want, enhancing it and having an adept mod as the cherry on top. All that grinding literally for nothing now, thanks bungie. (Adept mods now are only for some specials, some heavy, but mostly pvp )
@@deamonangel6*only pvp*. The only thing viable in PvE for these weapons now is adept handling IF its a swap weapon
@@mutantraze3681adept charge time is good on applicable weapons. Faster charge time with no downsides is good and now it’s not even competing with a spec mod
I'm kinda surprised by the triple nerf to wave frames
Yeah chain on specials got pummeled
The nerfs aren’t that bad though. That traded range for radius. The increased radius means the CR nerf won’t be that noticeable
I mean, I get it. Even without using forbearance, special waveframes are just so free for ad clear. You barely have to think
Thank you, Brim, for co-hosting another segment of Bungie finally recognizing pulse rifles. All the dads and future dads will remember this occasion
46:06 deconstruct slaps against stuff like Fallen turrets and brigs(maybe spider walkers too?). Been enjoying using it in Zero hour.
Div and Striga were already bleeding out and bungie showed up to further their wounds.
its not a striga problem its an smg problem all smgs are weak af 😱
Why are people acting like Osteo and Div were ass and didn’t need nerfs? They have literally been the meta since they dropped 😭😭😭😭
@@Magnum-qq5bzDiv used to be overused, but then it caught a nerf big enough to make tractor cannon the debuff for the majority of bosses. At this point div is at its best on 4 bosses and gms. This nerf isn't to bad, but it makes it a bit awkward which kind of makes a weapon that is supposed to be easy to use into a harder weapon to use for less results.
@@Magnum-qq5bz they have already been nerfed. Pretty hard at that. Neither of them are currently performing anywhere near the top of their respective roles. So many other add clear weapons currently dump on Striga right now and Rockets/GL's dump on Div strat damage.
@@Magnum-qq5bz This man just said Osteo is meta 😭😭😭😭Hero Nightfall Warrior over here
"Sighs in another osteo nerf" 😢
I feel like the nerf is being implemented because of both its ability to clear rooms of ads as well as Exotic Class Items becoming a thing.
That 33:34 comment got me good. Just the hard cut to maddo with the red face and the whiney voice. Fucking amazing. Perfectly played but.
I actually like the Truth changes, due to the previous reserves changes I’ve already been using High Impacts and Precisions more than Aggressives or Adaptives in everything except straight DPS situations. The extra rockets let you use your heavy way more often, and you don’t really need the extra 10-15% damage from the latter two when it doesn’t make a difference in the number of rockets to kill a champion or something
I don't have Divinity, and I kind of don't want to get it now.
Never get Divinity, or get it and tell nobody. You don't want to end up as the div bitch unless you are already extremely low DPS in raids.
You might regret it. Even with this nerf, it trivializes tormentors.
@@snottytoe6957div wasnt a good option in any fight unless you wanted to turn your brain off for master Ir Yut or final boss of GOTD
@@snottytoe6957 As a fish hat div lock I welcome this change.
It's changed from needing 8 ammo to activate the bubble to 14 ammo. It's a 1000 rpm weapon it literally doesn't matter.
Bastion looks like it'll be awesome but Eriana's Vow is still lacking in that it can't break a champions shield with one shot. Like why would you use that when Wish Ender breaks a shield in one shot with infinite ammo. Ignition's on shots on champion shields seems counter intuitive too.
With the removal of spec mods most Legendary Linears are actually getting a nerf not a buff because they would have been doing 7.77% more damage with specs and are only getting a 5% boost to compensate.
The only saving grace is backup mag which only partially offsets the nerf but doesn't stack with some linear mag types.
They probably needed a base 10% buff at base for legendaries for it to be an all around net positive.
With high ground, can you make a sniper's nest somewhere with some stasis crystals and proc it that way or is it not going to count that as actual ground?
brimmmmmmm walking around in the back
i dunno, i feel like going into tfs bungie should've just embraced the "fuck it" mentality and leave everything as-is, and then maybe do some nerfs post tfs. Like lament nerf? really?!
Absolutely agree
So true
Used divinity with lucky pants and a high damage cannon. Hit with dive for a second, then hotswap to hand cannon lol. Was so much fun in pvp.
11:00 I love how brim is just like I want to say hi to the people
Lament getting a nerf means a sword DPS boss in TFS
These changes feel dumb, I was thinking the other day about how good sun shot was but isn’t that it’s too good it’s that sun shot and trinity are good ad clear weapons, they’re satisfying to use because they fit the roll, now instead of giving us more options they’re just gutting them, can’t wait to plink ads with a pulse one by one
Sunshot isn't being gutted. It's gaining 5% more damage, losing 10% of the exotic bonus, and it's splash is being hit by 10%. After the changes, Sunshot will be dealing 97.5% of it's current damage on hits, and its explosion will hit for 87.75% of what it currently does. Hardly gutted
I think it'd be neat to see if something like Mothkeeper's Wraps make a weapon always turn Arc with Osmosis, but at the same time I can understand leaving that alone.
Glad I grabbed a few one-for-all Forbearance in prep for the chain reaction nerf. Though I'll be curious if heavy wave frame GLs take over for ad clear. Heavy comp. with machine guns, so well see.
the deconstructed fix is not surprising. Shit literally created ammo out of thin air, as long as you his 3 enemies with a wave frame.
Someone tell Datto the strand warlock build is better with thorn anyways
Shh. Don't want them to nerf it.
It’s also better with nechrochasm too. I haven’t used osteo in over a year now😂
@@oxsilamy thoughts exactly 😅
Brim out if nowhere always makes ne smile
With the striga nerf, I’m a little unsure how it will work with necrotic grips after the change. Like, the burst will have a cooldown if you trigger it directly from a kill, but if you poison an enemy with the kill-based burst then use striga to kill that poisoned enemy while it’s still on cooldown, will necro still trigger the burst from killing a poisoned enemy? What if you use another weapon to kill something poisoned by osteo? If the osteo nerf DOES affect the functionality of necro, will the other weapons of sorrow be leagues ahead of osteo?
My guess is that necro will still work fine with osteo, but since you need to have a poisoned enemy to start chaining from necro, it will require a little ad management since if you blindly fire and kill all the poisoned targets before they can spread it, you’ll have to wait four seconds before you can start the chain again (or get a melee hit).
I get the pulse rifle hate, but I have been almost exclusively using a incandescent/heal clip adhortative recently. it feels so good to use and obv goes with the seasons solar mods