Found your videos by chance and now hooked. Each time I watch them I feel I have gained so much knowledge and feel Im brave enough to build the 6mx4m office at the end of my 100ft garden. Then reality hits me and reminds me Im so bad at DIY..lol. Really great videos please keep them coming. Thanks for sharing
Great series of videos - will buy the home build pack to help make the right material purchases. Material costs are crazy at moment. Looking forward to the next video. Really clear instructions in the videos. Thanks for sharing your years of knowledge and experience.
Please get some cover caps for those foundation bars, they are cheap/reusable and will save a life. When I was a 22 I tripped and fell on foundation steel and it went rite through my forearm but could have killed me.
Massively inspired to do a garden room myself. I dont really do DIY, but looking at a garden room project done the same way as Mr Griffin but be a massive achievement. Loving the videos of step by step and tips. Top work from a top lad :-)
Nice work Liam. Be good to see the job finished. That laurel hedge is going to be a bugger to cut back in a couple of years given how close it is to the back of the garden room.
Crackin videos mate, I was expecting you to look a bit more like Johnny Vegas but that’s by the by 😁 Very informative all the way through (I’m on my second watch from the start) keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼
Very good instructive videos. Keep them coming. You say the shoes you use are 100mm x 50mm channel which supports 4 x 3 inch timber. I take it that the 3 inch face sits on the 100mm base of the channel. If this is so , is there not lateral movement in the timber due to the 25mm gap between this and the channel flanges? Thanks, Chris
Another good looking job Mr. Griffin. Dedicated team there as well. Good people around you makes the job a lot more easy and pleasing. What I can’t understand is why people use ground-screws?!? Like you say, they are so expensive and that’s only for the base!! If you’re gonna start cladding with Cedar or Siberian larch as well, you’d have been better buying a new house! My base won’t be as strong or as effective as yours, but I’m using dense concrete blocks as my foundation. Cheap, effective and solid. Looking forward to this little series of vids. 👍🏼
Amazing work, I’ve had a wooden framed building done at the end of my garden 9 Meters wide by 4.2 Meters deep it’s been done nice but the attention to detail is no where near as good as yours. I wish I found you before hand. Those rods could you tell me the thickness and length and where you buy them. Cheers 👍.
Hi William! Really enjoy watching these videos! We are planning on building one about 6 by 3 metres. But we want to make it our new living room. We will only put a wood burner in there and the tv and a sofa. Do you think I can use your plans for that too? I assume it’s strong enough but you talk about low occupancy quite some time so I’m wondering if making it al living room may need some more insulation or other adjustments. Hope you find the time to reply! Thanks!
I’ve used one before and the amount of time it’s usable isn’t worth the £1k+ for a sthil one. We generally build near boundaries and 8x out of ten the ground is either stony or roots, and the auger doesn’t like it. Don’t get me wrong, the right ground and it’s a no brainier but the right ground is far and few between, here anyway
Hi Will, loving Yr videos, learning so much. You clearly make high quality rooms. Just want to check, if you are pegging out base 5x3.5 and putting the rods on outside string line, when you add the feet and perimeter, won't the base be bigger than 5x3.5? Concerned as I'll need planning and don't want to contravene the consent. Cheers
Course you can ask, currently that busy, having a guy cutting and drilling off site is not an option, cost related, makes more sense to be on site , cut for the job, then crack on with other stuff,
You ever tried an auger for holes? I bought one for some fencing (cos im a lazy bugger and like buying tools). Really handy tool. Maybe no good above a root but it digs a hole in about 30 seconds.
@@thegardenroomguru do the other guys enjoy digging the holes with a shovel as much as you? I'm sure they're the ones doing it. 😂 Love the videos. Great work.
Hi will great vid as usual , I have a question If my garden is 0.4 acre does it matter how big the garden room is ? For example can I make it 6m x 8m ? Without needing PP? Thank you
Thanks Will. I think previously you said you use zinc coated rods. What grade do you use? I looked them up notice they come in different grades. Cheers
@@thegardenroomguru Sorry, I'm new to the measurements. There seem to be classes (4, 8.8, 10.9 and 12.9) and grades (2, 5 and 8). Do you mean class 8.8 (grade 5) or class 10.9 (grade 8)?
Good start to the series of this new build your doing and looking forward to the rest that’s coming. How much do the m24 rods work out including the washer? Also the the 100x50 steel for the shoes in what length do you buy then cut down? Thanks for tour help Liam
Ground screws are £30 each. Also the foundation is way over spec for the load. I’d use some engineering tables and save yourself some time and money. You needed about half of those posts for that size build and it would have still been over spec.
They pissed that base in a few hours,Most of these jobs are at the back of a garden 150ft away from the road,that size base would be around 10 to 12 ton in hardcore and aggregate,all the barrow in then getting rid of the earth,your on another planet mate if you think that's easier than there current method
Why dont you use a powered augur for drilling the ground rod holes? Ive not tried one yet but they look good. How long does the evolution blades last cutting channel regularly?
There only any good in virgin soil, hit a brick or root and they are useless, 95% of the time they wouldn’t do the job for us! Besides, it keeps the guys fit 🤣
Hi Will, I have a solid base already built that I'd like to use & drains very well. What would you recommend would be the best way to start the base? Thanks in advance.
@@thegardenroomguru Thanks for all the info Will. I also have a solid base but it's not level - would you just use offcuts to level the frame, or is there a bespoke product?
Hi William, great channel, your videos are priceless for the DIY builder. I can't tell you how many times I've watched them over and over. The missus hears your voice more than mine hehe. I'm wondering if you would recomment these as a replacement to the M24 rods for the piles? www.toolstation.com/concrete-in-sleeper-base-anchor-bracket/p75498 I'm almost about to purchase one of your packs, I just need to decide which size. But I don't have the facilities or tooling to cut and drill steel so I was thinking about using the steel anchors cemented in. Fix the anchor to the timber and offer it into the cement, adjust the level with packers or a jack and let it set in situ. Does this sound ok? I would appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Top work.
Hi, I wouldn’t use them on a commercial job mate, there’s such a lot of weight bearing down, I’ll show under the build and how the timber is compressed onto our steel shoes when this ones built. I think they are more suited to sheds or summer houses tbh , having said that, the way your proposing to do it would work fine, but I’d struggle to sleep if I used them on a commercial job 🙈
Hi Liam, I can't decide between 7m x 3.5m or 7m x 4m - is there any further issues that I should be aware of when going 4m? I don't want to have to use steel for the roof or anything like that, which is my worry if going 4m. I've seen you build quite a few 3.5m deep rooms, are these more than enough for a pool table? Thanks
@@AccountantDoesDIY Yes good point Chris, CLS would be an option. Personally I use 2" X 4" for outside walls (or even 2" X 5") and only CLS if untreated for partition wall. Both viable options just depends on spec and budget, just take into consideration what insulation you intend to use for the walls.
Just a quick one Liam. I'm about to insulate my roof and was wandering how far you send it through the soffit on the front elevation, do you go all the way to the fascia timber or just to the side walls cheers
On a cold roof (and Will's hybrid) the ceiling insulation should run over the wall insulation - sandwich the wall plate. No point insulating the overhangs. Edit: On the hybrid system the insulation is pushed up to the deck so you will actually have to make the wall insulation (above plate) meet up with the ceiling insulation.
Found your videos by chance and now hooked. Each time I watch them I feel I have gained so much knowledge and feel Im brave enough to build the 6mx4m office at the end of my 100ft garden. Then reality hits me and reminds me Im so bad at DIY..lol. Really great videos please keep them coming. Thanks for sharing
Love the channel, William; at last, someone who feckin knows what they're talking about. Onwards and upwards.
Nice to see you introducing the team, nobody is ever stood still, always working! 👍
They are a good set
Nice one Will, appreciate the time taken to make the videos, looking forward to the next one 👍🏻🍺
Unreal mate keep doing vids like this split into episodes of you building each project. Proper class keep it up
Great series of videos - will buy the home build pack to help make the right material purchases. Material costs are crazy at moment. Looking forward to the next video. Really clear instructions in the videos. Thanks for sharing your years of knowledge and experience.
Please get some cover caps for those foundation bars, they are cheap/reusable and will save a life. When I was a 22 I tripped and fell on foundation steel and it went rite through my forearm but could have killed me.
I hear you
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This video series is going to be really helpful thanks
Great video Liam, thanks. Hi to the team too 👊
Massively inspired to do a garden room myself. I dont really do DIY, but looking at a garden room project done the same way as Mr Griffin but be a massive achievement. Loving the videos of step by step and tips. Top work from a top lad :-)
Love your enthusiasm and quality 👍
Nice work Liam. Be good to see the job finished. That laurel hedge is going to be a bugger to cut back in a couple of years given how close it is to the back of the garden room.
its all coming out mate, feather edge fence going in
Great team work. 👏👏👏👏
Great video, will watch again tomorrow.
Get a post hole auger. Makes a big difference
Crackin videos mate, I was expecting you to look a bit more like Johnny Vegas but that’s by the by 😁
Very informative all the way through (I’m on my second watch from the start) keep it up 👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼
Thanks , I’m a lttle more polished than Vegas though 😬
Good to see all step 1 Liam..all done in 1 day?? wow great vid as always.keep them coming
Yes mate, timber delivery, toilet delivery, 28 piles, and all the steel cut and ready! Big push the next two days, weather permitting
How did you manage to get through that root?
had that issue when putting up fence and struggled to cut through it?
Great stuff - thanks William and team.
Fab video. How do I go about getting a build pack for this? Thank you.
www.oakwoodgardenrooms.com/new-products/63a55zuc75kc8kqiool0s4bkxrb76i
all the sizes are on the link mate, thanks
Great first video it's all u would want to know well done
Very good instructive videos. Keep them coming. You say the shoes you use are 100mm x 50mm channel which supports 4 x 3 inch timber. I take it that the 3 inch face sits on the 100mm base of the channel. If this is so , is there not lateral movement in the timber due to the 25mm gap between this and the channel flanges? Thanks, Chris
Brill. Cheers Liam.
Another good looking job Mr. Griffin. Dedicated team there as well. Good people around you makes the job a lot more easy and pleasing. What I can’t understand is why people use ground-screws?!? Like you say, they are so expensive and that’s only for the base!! If you’re gonna start cladding with Cedar or Siberian larch as well, you’d have been better buying a new house! My base won’t be as strong or as effective as yours, but I’m using dense concrete blocks as my foundation. Cheap, effective and solid. Looking forward to this little series of vids. 👍🏼
Get yourself a petrol auger perhaps, never used one but if you do a lot of post holes might be worth the investment.
only good on virgin ground, 95% of the time theres rocks, bricks and roots there, grafter works a treat
Great vids. Where you get the steel rods from. Thanks
Amazing work, I’ve had a wooden framed building done at the end of my garden 9 Meters wide by 4.2 Meters deep it’s been done nice but the attention to detail is no where near as good as yours. I wish I found you before hand. Those rods could you tell me the thickness and length and where you buy them. Cheers 👍.
M24 x1mtr, we get them from Bapps bolts 🙌🏻
Great videos and top quality work, I may of missed it but where can you buy the plans? Cheers
Hi William! Really enjoy watching these videos! We are planning on building one about 6 by 3 metres. But we want to make it our new living room. We will only put a wood burner in there and the tv and a sofa. Do you think I can use your plans for that too? I assume it’s strong enough but you talk about low occupancy quite some time so I’m wondering if making it al living room may need some more insulation or other adjustments.
Hope you find the time to reply! Thanks!
Curious as to why you dig the post holes by hand and not use an auger, surely a big time saving there, that aside, love your videos.
I’ve used one before and the amount of time it’s usable isn’t worth the £1k+ for a sthil one.
We generally build near boundaries and 8x out of ten the ground is either stony or roots, and the auger doesn’t like it. Don’t get me wrong, the right ground and it’s a no brainier but the right ground is far and few between, here anyway
@@thegardenroomguru makes sense, thanks for your reply
Can i ask if you can recommend best place to buy the rods, bolts, washers etc? Think your doing a great job and love your channel. Keep it up
Can't this method be used for a wooden frame extension ground floor ?
If you're putting a weed barrier down why do you need to dig out all of the turf as well? won't all the grass just die off?
Hi Will, loving Yr videos, learning so much. You clearly make high quality rooms. Just want to check, if you are pegging out base 5x3.5 and putting the rods on outside string line, when you add the feet and perimeter, won't the base be bigger than 5x3.5? Concerned as I'll need planning and don't want to contravene the consent. Cheers
Yes mate, you can be more accurate, but we always give the customer a bit more real estate for there ££
Ha, love it. Thanks Will
Is there a reason you never use a post hole borer for your holes? Seems like it would save you loads of time.
Hiya. What’s the thickness of the wall insulation boards. Walls are made up of 4 x2. Loving the videos, really informative.
Hi Guys great videos are the Rods you use stainless steel or zinc coated
Nice job, can i ask why you don’t pre drill and cut the steel channel off site, must be easier to have it all prepared before you turn up
Course you can ask, currently that busy, having a guy cutting and drilling off site is not an option, cost related, makes more sense to be on site , cut for the job, then crack on with other stuff,
I’m in Leeds, I’d happily spend one day a week just drilling and cutting these. Most likely get enough done in one day to last a couple of weeks
You ever tried an auger for holes? I bought one for some fencing (cos im a lazy bugger and like buying tools). Really handy tool. Maybe no good above a root but it digs a hole in about 30 seconds.
ill buy one eventually, but ive a background on the shovel and ill be honest, I like the work
@@thegardenroomguru certainly nothing wrong with that. Keeps you fit and healthy!
@@thegardenroomguru do the other guys enjoy digging the holes with a shovel as much as you? I'm sure they're the ones doing it. 😂
Love the videos. Great work.
Think you could build a brick house on all those piles.
Do you reckon I need a damp proof membrane under my timber base to stop moisture transfer from the soil going up into the celotex and flooring?
Hi will great vid as usual , I have a question
If my garden is 0.4 acre does it matter how big the garden room is ? For example can I make it 6m x 8m ? Without needing PP?
Thank you
can't go over 30m2 mate
Thanks Will. I think previously you said you use zinc coated rods. What grade do you use? I looked them up notice they come in different grades. Cheers
8.8
@@thegardenroomguru Sorry, I'm new to the measurements. There seem to be classes (4, 8.8, 10.9 and 12.9) and grades (2, 5 and 8). Do you mean class 8.8 (grade 5) or class 10.9 (grade 8)?
Just out of interest would you do just the suspended floor off the ground. Thanks
Good start to the series of this new build your doing and looking forward to the rest that’s coming. How much do the m24 rods work out including the washer? Also the the 100x50 steel for the shoes in what length do you buy then cut down? Thanks for tour help Liam
rods are around £10n washer £1, nut 35p, we buy the 100x50 in a 6mtr tenth, so get 40 out of it
Great video content in these videos, are you able to tell me the where you source the rods, and the length you purchase ? Thanks
Awesome job guys! Just wondering thickness was the steel channel and plate you used? I'm still in planning stages here in New Zealand. Cheers
Steel channel is 100x50x by god knows! It’s about 10mm on the 50 upstand and around 8mm on the 100 section, steel washers are 100x100x10
@@thegardenroomguru awesome! Wish you guys were here in NZ too so you could do my place 😁 looking forward to the build
Excellent video as always. Can I just ask? Would it be worthwhile using post create as its fast setting and pre mixed?
It’s not strong enough mate, you could use premix concrete bags,40N, but it would be pricey
@@thegardenroomguru Thanks for that.
Where can you get these sort of rods, can you them and the shoes pre made?
No, no.. Digging holes is in the Strone-age.. Get yourself a decent Stihl auger.. That's the future..Thought this was a solid piece of content. 👍
Hi Liam, what spec steel rods do you use? can you suggest a supplier?
Ground screws are £30 each. Also the foundation is way over spec for the load. I’d use some engineering tables and save yourself some time and money. You needed about half of those posts for that size build and it would have still been over spec.
Rob Ellis we build the best. I cannot say anymore, enjoy your evening
Where can I find your plans ?
Btw great channel!
plans are available at
www.oakwoodgardenrooms.com
thanks
Hey up
are foundation bars stainless or galanized
How much did it cost for all the timbers roughly?
What price would a 7 meter wide x 4m long cost
How would you handle the rod installation on a slope?
I used an auger on mine, sometimes it's a bloody nightmare holding the thing if you hit hard ground or a tree stump it about breaks your bloody wrist
I know mate, grafter smashes them out in a few minutes
I use a 180cm chisel, it can crack through 100mm concrete in a few blows
Personally I prefer using a spoon and fork. Smashes holes in no time
Messimagician83 pmsl, video for you tomorrow 💪
What strength grade are the rods? Zinc or galv?
Shutter . hardcore . concrete delivery. slab done these rooms are little more than fancy sheds why all work
I usually pour a slab but pros and cons to both.
fancy sheds? your following the wrong guy mate! you need to watch the rest of my videos and then tell me a pad is the way to go.
They pissed that base in a few hours,Most of these jobs are at the back of a garden 150ft away from the road,that size base would be around 10 to 12 ton in hardcore and aggregate,all the barrow in then getting rid of the earth,your on another planet mate if you think that's easier than there current method
Dean Reynolds 🙌enough said
Why dont you use a powered augur for drilling the ground rod holes? Ive not tried one yet but they look good.
How long does the evolution blades last cutting channel regularly?
There only any good in virgin soil, hit a brick or root and they are useless, 95% of the time they wouldn’t do the job for us! Besides, it keeps the guys fit 🤣
That blade has cut around 150, so I’m not sure until it’s blunt, we used an angle grinder before, but it’s hard work and dangerous
@@thegardenroomguru thanks, worth knowing as im planning on putting some fence posts in an old woodland area and theres 70m to do for a self build.
Do you think you would be able to use M20 rods on a smaller build?
Cheers
thats my question too! and how long are the rods? 1000-1200mm?
StopDigging charged us £950 for 15 865mm screw piles. Started at 0930, finished by 1315.
at that rate the 28 would of cost us £1773.33,
Hi Will, I have a solid base already built that I'd like to use & drains very well. What would you recommend would be the best way to start the base? Thanks in advance.
put DPC over the top and build frame on this, infill with insulation, and go from there
@@thegardenroomguru great thank you 👌😁
@@thegardenroomguru Thanks for all the info Will. I also have a solid base but it's not level - would you just use offcuts to level the frame, or is there a bespoke product?
hi looking for plans approx 6m x 4m or close to this thanks paul
hi, theres a 7x4 option or a 6x3.5 mate, available at
www.oakwoodgardenrooms.com
thanks
Hi William, great channel, your videos are priceless for the DIY builder. I can't tell you how many times I've watched them over and over. The missus hears your voice more than mine hehe. I'm wondering if you would recomment these as a replacement to the M24 rods for the piles?
www.toolstation.com/concrete-in-sleeper-base-anchor-bracket/p75498
I'm almost about to purchase one of your packs, I just need to decide which size. But I don't have the facilities or tooling to cut and drill steel so I was thinking about using the steel anchors cemented in. Fix the anchor to the timber and offer it into the cement, adjust the level with packers or a jack and let it set in situ. Does this sound ok? I would appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Top work.
Hi, I wouldn’t use them on a commercial job mate, there’s such a lot of weight bearing down, I’ll show under the build and how the timber is compressed onto our steel shoes when this ones built. I think they are more suited to sheds or summer houses tbh , having said that, the way your proposing to do it would work fine, but I’d struggle to sleep if I used them on a commercial job 🙈
No worries, completely understand. Thanks for your opinions.
Hi Liam, I can't decide between 7m x 3.5m or 7m x 4m - is there any further issues that I should be aware of when going 4m? I don't want to have to use steel for the roof or anything like that, which is my worry if going 4m. I've seen you build quite a few 3.5m deep rooms, are these more than enough for a pool table? Thanks
Should of half lapped the 4x3 beams as well and not just joined them with the metal plate
Why? There not going no where, less than 1.2 at any length👌
Hi Will I've got a question on the 5x2 roof and 4x2 wall timber is it treated timber?
Should all be c24 or c16 treated and regularised carcassing timber.
@@TurinTuramber thanks Geralt
Vini Kane floor and roof joists definitely treated. I think the 2b4 wall studs you’d probably be ok with CLS. A little cheaper too I think.
@@AccountantDoesDIY Yes good point Chris, CLS would be an option. Personally I use 2" X 4" for outside walls (or even 2" X 5") and only CLS if untreated for partition wall. Both viable options just depends on spec and budget, just take into consideration what insulation you intend to use for the walls.
roof timbers are c16, wall timbers are 4x2cls mate, its enough
Just a quick one Liam. I'm about to insulate my roof and was wandering how far you send it through the soffit on the front elevation, do you go all the way to the fascia timber or just to the side walls cheers
On a cold roof (and Will's hybrid) the ceiling insulation should run over the wall insulation - sandwich the wall plate. No point insulating the overhangs.
Edit: On the hybrid system the insulation is pushed up to the deck so you will actually have to make the wall insulation (above plate) meet up with the ceiling insulation.
Thank you for your reply
as above, we use rock wool where we can't fit the foil backed mate
@@thegardenroomguru cheers pal appreciate it