Samurai Shodown (Sega Genesis vs Sega CD) Side by Side Comparison (2 Longplay)
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- Dual Longplay | Samurai Shodown Comparison - Mega Drive vs Sega CD vs Sega Genesis.
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sega genesis version > sega cd version (in my opinion)
VCDECIDE wtf ? The genesis is more animated and has more details than the sega CD version. Also, the referee is in the background on genesis
referee, interactive bg, bonus stages, gameplay, combos, fatalities ... all better on the Genesis.
Sega Genesis = Saurus (Second Party Developer for SNK Neo Geo, examples: Ragnagard, Ironclad, Pleasure Goal, Quiz King of Fighters, Shock Troopers , Shock Troopers: 2nd Squad, Stakes Winner, Stakes Winner 2.... )
Sega CD = Fumcom ( ... )
Genesis.
Extra character on the cd version might have been the deciding factor for me personally.
@@vcdecide Você disse a palavrinha mágica: gameplay. Com jogabilidade ruim não adiante ter um jogo superior gráfica e sonoramente.
Sugiro fazer uma comparação da versão do Sega CD com a versão com hack de cores do Mega.
Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho.
La conversión de Saurus a Megadrive es impresionante. Si no me equivoco, son los mismos que hicieron la conversión de Art of Fighting 2 y World Heroes 2 a SNes, otras dos geniales versiones. Saurus hacía magia con 24 megas.
Kind of amazing how much animation is missing from the Sega CD version. Seems like they sacrificed a lot for those big characters... maybe too much. The music is so much better on the Sega CD, which is to be expected, but honestly it doesn't feel like they spent much time at all with the Genesis soundtrack.
Ram limitations of Sega CD also don't help. Can't always blame the devs.
@@ajsingh4545 I definitely agree on that sega should’ve did what nec did with the pc engine CD and created a ram cart
Yes, FUCK Nintendo's GAY-ASS soccermom politics... Making kids GAY everywhere like since the 1990's!!! 😡😡😡
@@biged3561 Yes, FUCK Nintendo's GAY-ASS soccermom politics... Making kids GAY everywhere like since the 1990's!!! 😡😡😡
@@biged3561 Good question... I wonder why they did not port this game on the PCE??? 🤔
this is my first comment in your channel VCDECIDE in 2019 XD , anyway saga CD have more colors and since it's on CD the sound is way better than mega drive but the megadrive does not have loeading time .
there are also a differences in the font and the stages backgrounds
I have both versions and greatly prefer the Sega-CD one (also have it on Neo Geo CD by the way). You get the full-size sprites of the Neo-Geo, a proper 320*224 resolution (unlike PCE and SNES, both consoles have blurry pictures on CRT because of horizontal stretching). Soundtrack is the Neo-Geo one, another win right here. I also think Funcom did a much better job at using the MegaDrive color palette, the sprites and backgrounds are extremely pretty and have better gradients. Some backgrounds also use black in a pretty artistic way to create strong shadows, as well as having much more depth. Overall, Sega-CD version is the most faithful port as far as we look at graphics and sound, after the 3DO one of course.
Neo-Geo all the way.
Best console for fighting games hands down.
@@igorivanov299 Obviously.
I like that in the Nakoruru stage the animals are all positioned in different places. Top management decision for sure.
É serio isso!?Mesmo o MCD sendo superior ao Mega não tem o efeito de zoom e nem o personagem Earthquake?
A versão do MCD me decepcionou😒🤦🏼♂
Pensei o mesmo... Até os efeitos sonoros, que poderiam ter sido todos mantidos, não estão presentes na versão do Sega CD
Sega cd dont have all animations of scenery..... look the final batle.
Só eu que senti falta do juiz no fundo? 😂
Idem...
this is a tough one. Gen has the ref, CD has more attack animation. Background is also a mixed bag. Gen has better Wan-fu Stage with far greater background detail, but the CD has a better Charlotte, Hanzo, and Galford stage.
I think the MD version has more merit than the SCD since the entire graphic section was remade both the characters and the scenarios to fit the limitations of the cartridge memory and still give us a very dignified conversation. The SCD even when it has aspects that make it superior in most of the occasions it is noticed a wasted of the capacitations of the SCD reason why it loses merit.
As cores estão melhores no Mega CD, mas os gráficos no Mega Drive estão mais detalhados. O cenário do Kyoshiro ficou melhor no Mega CD. Mas no geral, a versão do Mega Drive é impressionante levando em conta que o Mega era inferior ao Arcade e Neo Geo.
Takara era guerreira. Fácil decidir que se sai melhor: Sega Mega Drive. Acredito que seja o melhor port de Samurai Shodown
The Sega CD version overall is much better, but what is disappointing here lies the fact that the Sega CD still missed Neo Geo features that was actually capable with Sega CD hardware. The Sega CD's increase in ram, cpu speed, improved audio and the ability to hardware scale, should have resulted with a very close port to the original. It's sad when hardware is not fully realized.
Na boa... Fico com o gênesis embora ambas as versões estejam capadas O sEGA cD tinha obrigação de fazer algo melhor.
The sprites are bigger on cd. Better color, music, cutscenes, intro, backgrounds. All the rest is better on Genesis.
I will see sega cd vs 3DO.
Thanks for that great video!
some of the best megadrive graphics I have ever seen
Bons ports, considerando os somente 24mb do cartucho do Mega, que acabaram por limitar bastante os cenários, não tinha como usar zoom, e Earthquake não caberia pelos sprites muito grandes e alto consumo de memória, no SNES o Earthquake é do tamanho a Nakoruru do Mega e tem 32mb o cartucho. No Sega CD vc tem a limitação de cores como no Mega, mas muito espaço de rom, porém, menos de 1mb de espaço na RAM e leitor de 1X, o que obriga a capar quadros para ter um carregamento de velocidade aceitável dentro do limite dos menos de 1mb possíveis... ai tivemos cortes de quadros e Earthquake ficou de fora pq não conseguiram fazer sprites do tamanho da tela para ele.. faltou o efeito de zoom no CD, era possível, já que o Sega CD, faz zoom, escalonamento e rotação de imagem via hardware, como o Mode7 do SNES faz... Fico com a versão do Mega, pq a do Sega CD foi tão mal feita que tem um bug que impede chegar no mestre final...
Hold on a minute...actually Takara could have implemented sprite scaling on the Sega Genesis port of Samurai Shodown. Further, the bit about Earthquake not fitting into the memory of the Genesis just flat doesn't make any sense. They could have made him from multiple parts as many other developers did for giant boss characters in games. My God man, look at Thunder Force IV's bosses or Gunstar Heroes bosses as examples of what can be done on a bone stock Genesis. Oh and Thunder Force IV was only on a 16meg cart for that matter.
Addendum- The Snes port of Samurai Shodown had Earthquake not because of memory or that it had the ability to do something the Genesis could not. No, the Snes port featured tiny characters throughout the entire game. It was as if the camera was zoomed all the way out making the characters very small. The Genesis had the camera zoomed all the way in which made the characters about twice the size of the Snes port.
Talvez o Mega- Sega CD foi o add on menos aproveitado de todos. Tinha um m68k com clock de 12 mhz, contra os 7,58 do Mega. Muito mais memória RAM ,mas ao contrário do que disseram , as cores eram questão de escolha do desenvolvedor, já que o Mega- CD está " preso" ao VDP do Mega, no que tange a quantidade de cores. Por isso os jogos que usavam partes de filme eram pobres e granulados, devido a paleta de cores do mega drive. O Mega CD praticamente apresentou ganho somente em alguns poucos jogos, usando efeitos de escala e rotação por hw, que no mega teriam que ser adaptados pra tentar reproduzir por software.O som da qualidade do CD, que não dependia mais do chip de som ym2612 , abriu a parte sonora pra outras possibilidades. Mas mesmo assim, o acessório foi muito mal explorado.
Com certeza o Sega Cd foi mal explorado,seu ponto fraco a falta de uma paleta de cores e o leitor de 1x,mas mesmo assim se fosse explorado como o Mega Drive foi jogos incríveis ele poderia ter dado,curioso que esse era o projeto original do Mega Drive,mas por custos foi cortado deixando o Mega Drive capado e futuramente com a saída de expansão ele ia ganhar seu real poder mas ter cortado a paleta de cores foi um erro da Sega,por mais que os jogos tinha abertura de anime coisa assim não chamava muito atenção devido a ter poucas cores,mesmo o Sega Cd podendo exibir um pouco mais na tela,mas sim o Sega Cd deveria ter sido mais explorado e nunca deveria ter lançado aquela gambiarra do Sega 32x.
Você tem toda razão.
@@fabinho208s Cores sempre foi o ponto fraco da Sega, o Snes tinha uma paleta superior e os jogos aparentavam melhores, por isso pessoas escolhiam mais as versões de Snes mesmo se inferior em outros aspectos como resolução ou velocidade. O publico mais leigo "nossas mães e pais" não prestavam muita atenção nestes aspectos, mas compravam logo o mais "colorido" e chamativo.
And the best part is the cd version used the uncensored text such as Kyoshiros "I rip open your belly" instead of "You cry like a baby"
A versão de mega drive feita pela takara é superior à versão feita pela jvc para Sega CD
A versão do Mega é excelente, mas a do Sega Cd também tem os seus méritos, olha o tamanho dos Sprites e as cores são mais bem selecionadas. Mas prefiro a versão do Mega que é mais bem dosada.
A versão do Mega drive na verdade foi produzida pela Saurus e publicada pela Takara.
A Saurus era até mais competente que a Takara, vide o excelente AOF 2 para SNES.
Both doesn't have Earthquake.
@@Kpocci SUPER NES :-D ( *NINTENDO* ) WINS !!!!!
Concordo!! Basta ver o cenario da batalha final: no mega é todo animado!!
Amazing how good is digitalized sounds on Samurai Shodown Megadrive when you think neo Geo sounds are very high quality and so hard to replicate.
Even SF2 CPS1 arcade couldn't do what Neo Geo did.
I'm very impressed.
The Sprites are huge compare to SNES version too and we have BOOD!! ^^.
Yes, FUCK Nintendo's GAY-ASS soccermom politics... Making kids GAY everywhere like since the 1990's!!! 😡😡😡
Still, it's missing a whole character. They could have added another to make up for that, but they didn't...
Hard one as they both have advantages over each other. Sega CD resolutions appears higher than the Genesis with full screen being displayed and improved audio. The Sega CD also has larger sprites, and are more colorful with additional frames of animations. The Genesis on the other hands doesn't have loading, has better ground detail, and the background has less dithering in most stages (6:00 mark). When you go to the 15:00 and 17:00 mark the Sega CD background is clearly superior but lacks the referee so it's a toss up regarding which one looks better. With my current 4K OLED and Dolby Atmos setup I'll go with the Sega CD as the superior version by a hair.
O que me intriga na versão do Sega CD é o truque de cores usado, pois parece que aumentou o número de cores na tela, os spriters dos personagens também são superiores embora os cenários me pareçam menos detalhados que a versão do Mega.
As cores estão melhores mesmo.
Sim, são as unicas coisas que percebi na versão Sega CD, mas pelo fato de ter mais detalhes no Mega Drive, não ter zoom e não ter colocado o personagem Earthquake na versão em CD, eu fico com o do Mega Drive.
Isso o Mega Cd apesar de usar a pequena paleta de cores do Mega Drive,podia exibir um pouco mais de cores na tela que o Mega Drive,o Mega Cd é uma máquina incrível pra época,infelizmente a paleta de cores foi cortada e um leitor de 1x limitou muito o Mega Cd.
@@fabinho208s outro jogo que me parece ter uma paleta de cores acima da média no Sega cd é o Lunar.
Agora imaginem se a versão de Mega fosse um cartucho de 32 megas + um CD, para rodar em parceria, da mesma forma que fizeram com o Pier Solar!
Megadrive port very good and a top beatmup on the console.
MegaCd port a wasted opportunity like Mortal Kombat-could be much better than standart Megadrive but they chose either the lazy path or they werent enough to port such games on superior hardware.
Final Fight proved that MegaCd can really make the difference from the standart Megadrive.
Have you recently checked out Final Fight Ultimate for Genesis made by some SA-based homebrewers? It looks very promising, and proves that the Genesis hardware has still got what it takes to handle a great port!
@@OtomoTenzi Ofcourse I saw it and indeed Megadrive hardware is very capable.
True limitation was the rom format which was always expensive and thats why we saw such cutted down ports all those years, every megabyte costed a fortune back then.Now we have the ease to see great ports and great new games like Xenogears or Demons of Asterborg, too late ofcourse but its ok.
Que belo trabalho a Takara fez no Genesis!
When I bought the Sega CD version, I returned it the next day.
Never realized how much better Samurai Shodown was on the Sega CD. I myself owned the original on my AES back in 93 so I skipped the SNES and Genesis versions but was never aware of the Sega CD version. By the time this was released on Sega CD, part 2 had already been out a month.
Pretty impressed with the extra features of the CD over the cartridge. Not just with the sound, but with sprite size, colors and animation. It even had an extra playable character. It’s too bad it couldn’t include Earthquake.
Mega CD version had never sold in japan.
I was very sad.
Always impressed with how the MD handled these games. Where's the ref guy on the MCD version? He's in the MD one...plus multiple load bars on the CD? How am I supposed to know how long it'll take if when it's full it starts again lol. MD for the win for me!
Oooh, a toughie. Sega CD port seems to have the correct screens from the arcade for the intro, character win quotes, and ending, as well as slightly bigger character sprites, Earthquake being playable, and some noticeably more fluid animation. However, some of the stages appear to have been redesigned for the port (Nakoruru's notably) and looks like the referee and bystander that appear in the background aren't in the Sega CD port. Genesis port obviously lacks the correct arcade screens, Earthquake, and some character animations. However, it has no load times and has the referee and bystander background characters missing from the Sega CD port. Having played the Genesis port personally, it played and controlled rather smoothly, though does usually suffer slowdown if too many sprites are onscreen (most notable with Nakoruru and Galford due to the animals that accompany them during fights). As I never played the Sega CD port of this, I honestly can't say who would win this comparison since both have their pros and cons.
The Sega CD port doesn't have Earthquake, look at the character selection screen and you won't see him. None of the Sega versions had Earthquake, not even the Game Gear version. The only home ports that do have Earthquake are the NeoGeo AES, PS1, SNES, Game Boy, Wii, PS2, PSP, Switch, PS3, Xbox, Virtual Console, Xbox 360, and 3DO versions. Earthquake is missing from the Sega Genesis, Sega CD, and Game Gear ports and the game never made it to Sega Saturn.
@@teamspirits732 My bad. Looks like because of Amakusa's addition to the Sega CD port, I mistook the more even character selection screen of the port to mean all the playable characters were there without paying attention to who really was there.
@@teamspirits732 I think its a dumb move that they couldn't include Earthquake in at least one of the Sega ports...
@@OtomoTenzi Devido à ausência de zoom, por alguma deficiência do sega cd, que não sei qual é, foi retirado o Earthquake. Mantiveram os sprites grandes das personagens e por isso não foi possível adicioná-lo.
@@ivandossantos9073 Not enough power, perhaps? Makes NO sense at all, cuz the SegaCD boasted 12.5Mhz clockspeed plus at least 6MB of RAM. Should have been enough to port ANY arcade game from the 90s. They had NO idea how to take full advantage of that hardware. The game developers were incompetent and just did a lousy port! 👎
I think I prefer the MegaCD version.
o de SEGA CD tá melhor, sim. Tirando o Loading chato, tudo é mais próximo do original. Mas a versão de Mega não ta nada ruim, ao contrário, tá boa tb. Eu jogo no SEGA CD até hj esse jogo, até prefiro.
Nossa, estou surpreso com este!
What''s weird is I actually prefer the Genesis colours.
Well because of the electronic pin connectors information can bounce back from the console to the cartridge in an instant Flash and also cartridges pump better colors and sound , over it Cd counter part Believe it or not ☯️🙏
Sega wins!
12.5 mhz extra processor and still no Earthquake. SNES had smaller sprites to keep Earthquake plus much better backgrounds.
There's also no reason why it couldn't have the scaling of the Neo game. Sega CD has far better scaling and rotation hardware than the Neo. The CD game just has laziness written all over it.
RyuHayabusa06 but it was missing blood . The snes
@@bondosho Mortal Kombat is a lazy port also for the Sega CD.
@@bondosho I wonder why Gen-an's fireball is red on the Genesis version of the game.
@Manveru31 I'm guessing it was a copyright problem... If it really had been arcade perfect, SNK prolly wouldn't allow it? 🤨
In my opinion some levels are a little better in the MD, and others are better in the MCD...Let's say that the MCD, as always, has a significantly superior audio quality, and also an extra character!...So honestly I would say that overall MCD wins!
So they produced a completely new version for the Mega CD, but without using the new hardware for functions like spritescaling etc.? What is the point?
I guess to provide a version for the Mega CD market.
As far as the sprite and background scaling goes, I imagine it wouldn't be as easy to include as you would imagine. The feature has bottlenecks that usually force a reduction in screen size and frame rate, so you could kiss goodbye to the 60fps scaling effect like the Neo Geo. Try 20fps, if that were even possible.
@@overdrone1606 I don't imagine this to be easy at all. I wasn't even talking about scaling the entire screen. Still, you could have added some nice effects. The question is why they didn't just put the Mega Drive version on CD and add CD soundtracks like they did with many other games. Why develop a completely independent version that is technically not much different?🤷♂️
@@yasminesteinbauer8565 Well, at the end of the day different developers and different publishers. Sega Japan obviously felt there was market opportunity for the 24 Meg cart (developed by Saurus), whereas in the West Funcom ported the game to Sega/Mega CD and JVC published, but chose not to release the game in Japan (unlike their FF Special port).
@@overdrone1606 I think they were all in on it, and plotted things specifically that way in hoping that each version would still be able to SELL... It was prolly a business decision? 🤔
O snes nem chega perto kkk
One thing we can all agree is that if samurai shodown is to face off against samurai shodown
That samurai shodown would win. That means that we are all winners
Tell that to Snes owners who had Samurai- Dwarf- Showdown.
@@vasileios6301 More like Samurai zoomed-out-camera-edition Shodown.
@@thefroyukenfiles3641 Υes,whatever,just the result is dissapointing
@@vasileios6301 Samurai Shitdown! 💩
I was going to get sega CD for Lunar story and Samurai showdown instead of PS1 back in 1997. Glad i went with PS1
The CD-version has better sound, cutscenes and one fighter more - but the rest of the game, like the most backgrounds and animation-frames is better on the Megadrive/Genesis
Se a Sega não estivesse tão perdida e com tanta gula, daria para se dedicar ao Mega CD e com certeza uma boa parcela dos jogos de Neo Geo seriam portados, já que não seria tão complicado de reprogramar, era só dar umas capadinhas.
2 different companies handled each port.
Definitely SEGA the truly winner here.
Which one?
err...both are sega consoles
@@cielaphantomhive4629 I think he may have been referring that both Sega versions were the BEST ports that were available at the time...
Eu só não entendo uma coisa, porque razão essas produtoras que fazem a conversão destes games, tem o prazer de capar certas coisas no jogo que não precisariam serem capadas, na minha opinião o Sega Cd ele tem sim a capacidade de reproduzir todos ou pelo menos a maioria dos jogos de Neogeo fielmente, eles poderiam fazer um Samurai Shodown com zoom, igualzinho no Neogeo original, a e porque tirar o Juiz que tem no cenário de fundo do jogo, e sem a parte onde eles aparecem levando a maca com os feridos, isso matou legal a essência do jogo.
Foi o que eu reclamei da versão do mega drive . A jogabilidade tá impecável , mas em Compensação tiraram as torinhas dos ninjas , espada forte abaixada da nakoruru , e dos ninjas também mantendo o mesmo quadro , a espada média do haomaru ...enfim ! Coisas que mantiveram no super nes ... não que não seja jogável .mas as coisas tem limite
Ha nem o saturn e o playstation conseguiam reproduzir fielmente 12:14 os jogos do Neogeo, esperevas muito do segacd
Never play the CD version I enjoyed very much mega drive version, fluid game play, amazing played with friends , like Nakoruru theme music
SEGA CD 👍LOOK BETTER
SEGA GENESIS STILL VERY GOOD PORTS
Got em both 😎
I'm pretty sure this port was released sometime in 1994 and that is very important for what I have to say. By mid 1992 developers had created methods (through software) that enabled the Sega Genesis to utilize sprite scaling, period. There was no excuse for the Sega Genesis port not to feature some sort of scaling. It gets even worse when you consider the Sega CD was built with an ASCII chip specifically for scaling. There was just no excuse for either port to not feature the famous Samurai Shodown zoom.
This business of Earthquake won't fit in the systems RAM is also total nonsense. How many Genesis games feature screen filling bosses? Quite a bit I'm afraid making Takara's excuse very flimsy. No, I'll tell you what happened...Takara bit off more than they could chew and blamed the hardware for their mistake. They built Samurai Shodown for the Sega Genesis, Snes, Sega CD, 3DO, Game Gear, Sega Master System, PC, and the freaking GameBoy. That's 8 wildly different platforms all at once by a small team.
Addendum- For those that are going to come on here and say the same tired "The Genesis can't do scaling blah, blah, blah..." The entirety of Road Rash's gameplay is scaling (all of it). There are others but Road Rash is the most famous example. Oh and it isn't just a background layer but everything scales without any specialized chips. Had Sega and EA used a memory mapper it would have had a stable frame rate.
Actually the load times on the Sega CD version are NOT BAD compared to the other CD-based versions of this game... I wonder that's one of the main reasons why they had to cut out so many frames of animation, background details, and other missing stuff? 🤔
Ve Este Vídeo. Contiene Una Partida Completa Dual Con Gen-An Shiranui.
The loading on Sega cd is not to long but still...
Some things even look more colorful on the megadrive/genesis
I can understand why there's no scaling on the SCD version (16-color object limitation), but... Why no Earthquake???
RAM limitations? 🤨
É triste a Sega do Japão ter lançado o Mega Cd é até o imponente Wondermega m1,é mesmo com todo esse poder técnico ter levado uma surra do velho Nes e até mesmo do novato Pc Engine,pouco tempo depois do lançamento do acessório em Cd a Sega do Japão deixou de lado,umas das decisões erradas da Sega,já nos EUA Tom kalinske estava fazendo um trabalho incrível com Sega Genesis,o Mega Cd/Sega Cd e porque não o imponente Wondermega m1 poderia ter dado ao 16bits da Sega grandes vantagens mas como sempre a briga Sega do Japão vs Sega Eua colocou tudo a perder,o Sega Cd era extremamente poderoso comparado ao Mega Drive,mesmo preso na limitada palheta de 512 cores do Mega Drive o Sega Cd poderia exibir 256 de uma vez,sem contar efeitos de rotação nativa,um espaço gigantesco na mídia em Cd,muita ram,mais canais de áudio com qualidade em Cd e etc,ver comparações de jogos que foram lançados iguais para o Mega Drive e Sega Cd dá até tristeza por ver o potencial do Sega Cd jogado pelo ralo,o Super Nintendo na época batendo no Mega Drive com jogos incríveis e a Sega com o Mega Drive tentando se manter sendo que o Sega Cd está pronto era só faze uso,jogos exclusivos de peso e claro deixar o Cd mais barato que o cartucho porque ninguém ia querer paga mais caro em um Cd do que o cartucho,no final da vida do Mega Drive ainda ganhou o Sega 32x este também tinha um poder técnico incrível para os padrões de um console 16bits,mas este praticamente nem jogos teve e seu potencial totalmente desperdiçado,uma pena,mas falando da comparação do vídeo,o port do Mega Drive ganha em praticamente tudo,o Sega Cd leva vantagem nas cores,alguns sprites e som,mas no geral o Mega Drive ganha.
SegaCD is missing some details here and there...but overall it's still better then the Genesis version.
Genesis does what CDon't
Both are great!
Cuando puse el video, empecé por la parte de Nakoruru, y me he llevado una mala sorpresa, al ver un escenario menos detallado en MegaCD, y yo recordaba esta versión mejor, por suerte, mi memoria no falla, y viendo el resto de escenarios, logicamente son superiores en MegaCD.
Así que la cosa es esta, mejores voces, animaciones generales, tamaño de sprites y escenarios (menos Nakoruru) para MegaCD...mejores tiempos de carga, alguna animación, y escena intermedia para ingresar en el terreno de pelea para Megadrive.
Siendo realistas, se podría haber alcanzado este nivel de detalle en Megadrive sin CD con un cartucho de bastantes Megabit, a excepción de la calidad de sonido del CD.
las versiones de juegos de peleas andan mejor, en cartuchos.el trabajo en megadrive sorprende ya que supera en casi todo a super nes, como decís la versión de sega cd es superior aunque se esperaba más ya que el mega cd añade más potencia y la capacidad de hacer zoom al scroll y escalar los sprites, posiblemente recortaron esas animaciones por falta de ram.
É um absurdo um vídeo trabalhoso desse com tanto pouca visualização .
Booth versions are very nice, but in my opinion the Mega Drive version is better, with graphics closer to the original arcade version.
The Sega CD version looks like a zoom-in version of the SNES port. Even the health bar and background looks similar to how the SNES look. The Sega Genesis version does had more modes of play like the Showdown Mode and free play whereas the Sega CD version had to suffer with only 4 credits of play no extra modes. Also I don't get Gen-an ending though, if he really did get killed by a Shiranui assassin, why was he still in Samurai Shodown II? It makes no sense.
The Genesis port seems more faithful despite the graphics and sound disparity.
It's crazy how good the SEGA CD version looks good. It's very close to the original game in so many ways, and this is why it'll always be my port of choice on a non-SNK system.
It's rubbish , too slow
It's nowhere close to the original, the original doesn't had load times and isn't missing fighters or features.
How do you fight as Amakusa in the Sega CD version? He appears at the second row at the far right but you cannot select him.
You can only pick him in 2-Player Versus Mode at the time.
@@teamspirits732 Totally missed opportunity right there... They really should've made Amakusa also playable in the 1 player arcade/story mode in an effort to make up for the missing Earthquake.
@@teamspirits732 Nope he's not playable at all even in 2-Player Mode in the Sega CD version. In the Sega Genesis version you can pick him in Showdown Mode which is the Versus Mode. In the Sega CD version for some reason he was still locked and can't be pick. No code for accessing him ever surface either.
I've said it for a long time, the Genesis version wipes the floor with the Sega CD version, lots of things that shouldn't be missing from the CD version is missing. Same story with Fatal Fury Special, too much missing detail in the game, and it seems to play slower than it should, the PCE CD port wipes the floor with it, so does the SNES version.
Fatal Fury Special and Samurai Shodown on Sega-CD are actually the only ports that retain the full-size of the sprites (with the exception of 3DO). You have the right to prefer the scaled down sprites of the SNES or PCE displayed at 256*224, a resolution that adds blur on CRT because of the horizontal stretching. These two games played on Sega-CD on a CRT are perfectly crisp and totally destroy the other versions in terms of presentation. I greatly prefer having the full-size sprites and a 320*224 resolution, losing background details is less important.
@@cireza_ The backgrounds are actually more important to the games with these ports than the sprite size. For a more powerful hardware Sega CD shouldn't have these limitations when Genesis and SNES had done them better.
@@teamspirits732 I don't see a significant difference between MegaDrive and Mega-CD in terms of backgrounds. The Mega-CD uses different palettes, but otherwise, they are pretty close. The fact that the Mega-CD is more powerful has little to do with the complexity of the backgrounds. What is required is memory, and obviously the additional memory was used for the bigger sprites on Mega-CD. By targeting full sized sprites, developers of the Mega-CD versions probably ended with less memory available for the backgrounds than on MegaDrive, which would explain removing some backgrounds elements. And backgrounds are certainly not "more important" than retaining the original sprite size in a fighting game port.
@@cireza_ I'm actually kinda OK with blurrier graphics, cuz you can always try to make it look nicer with better cables, upscalers, and newer monitors; but having small and tiny-ass character sprites really KILL the whole gaming experience tho...
@@cireza_ OK, but WHY did they have to remove Earthquake then? Obviously the CD format would've had more than enough storage space to hold his FAT ASS... 🤔
How come the other character wasn't shown on the Sega cd version? That probably would have been the deciding factor in this comparison. Both look great though. I own the Sega Genesis version, but am thinking of buying the cd version.
The other character? Which one?
@@takodachi8283 on the character select screen he is on the bottom row, far right 8n yhe sega cd game. He is not on the Genesis version at least not on startup and may be not at all. I noticed he is not selectable on start up tho but is shown on the Sega cd version. I think you may have to beat the game to make him selectable.
@@dad7275 That's Amakusa, the final boss. I remember I could use him in the Gen version but I forgot how. I suppose it's available after beating the game, probably is the same with the SCD version.
@@takodachi8283 good chance. Just played the cd version and run out of continues to find out. 😕 Gonna play the Genesis version now.
@@takodachi8283 At first, I thought he was referring to Earthquake... 🤔
This is the same thing with earthworm Jim where the samples are somehow worse on the CD
De verdade as duas são boa, eu particularmente não gosto da de SNES. Mas as outras são boas, queria achar a de 3do que não joguei ainda, e não quero usar emulador!
While the sound is better and colors are richer on the CD side, the Genesis version has more detail in the arenas and backgrounds, and no load times. Also, I noticed a few pauses and framerate hiccups in the CD version as well. Have to give the Genesis the win on this one.
Some claim that the Sega CD version is a bit more challenging, but I think only artificially so with its limited continues...
CD version has better color some more story scenes and background animation.
But missing core element, where is the guy delivering supply like meat and bomb?
Sega CD, not a complete arcade port.
1. Missing character and stage (Earthquake).
2. Lack of camera zoom (only locked in a close zoom).
3. Portions of some characters endings are missing.
Hardware limitations?
It's also missing the Showdown Team Battle Mode which was on the Sega Genesis version.
Not enough RAM to handle all of the missing content, and slow CD read speeds...
This just proves if sega has taken their time & though about future proofing when making the genesis hardware ..we wouldn’t need the sega cd. At least not so early .
Sega should have ,had. A more robust color plattet with the ability to produce more on screen colors .like say a
12-bit 4096 color palette -192-on screen before need for dithering .
32 extra kbt of ram to support more sprites,details,and more data
24 kbt if sound ram ,less compression of audio
And extra sound Chanels exclusive just for voice samples .playback
Hardwar scaling & rotation
exactly
At what COST??? 🤨
Aí já não seria Megadrive.
Seria outro console
Hold up, Mai is in this game?!?!
Still no Earthquake? Man, if you were a Sega fan who mained that absolute unit in the arcade, you were just shit out of luck. I know some people are gonna be like "So what?", but how would you feel if the home port of a game for the system you owned was lacking the character you liked playing the best?
Yep, just like the original vanilla release of Final Fight on SNES... NO Guy??? 'Nuff said!
Every sound effect and voice on the CD version is a bit crushed rip from the original, and while there a lot less of them on the cart version, Takara chose wisely to remake the effects and sample the voices at a higher bit rate. Funcom did not do a great job with either of their SNK licenses, IMO.
It's strange. Funcom tried to keep the sprites the same size as the arcade version's too, but the Mega/Sega CD didn't have enough RAM for that so they lost tons of animation even if static sprites look nice. This is really obvious in the port of Fatal Fury Special (and the backgrounds were massacred in that). Why not shrink the sprites a bit and have them animate smoother? Time and budget? To look good in magazine screenshots?
@@Silanda Obviously YES, cuz back then magazine screenshots were what made those games sell...
why does the genesis version look better than the CD version? Shouldn't it be the other way around since the CD could hold more space for better graphics?
The Sega CD version should have been a straight port, other than the color reduction. It had more than enough working memory and the ability to scale the sprites. JVC did a rush job.
JVC should've just sticked to makin' VCRs and LD players instead! 👎
Sega Cd não tem o Kuroko🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I play it on my aes. I got the first three but the next two gonna cost the price of a used car!
Yeargh, I hear ya on that one... My friend in college payed at least 400 bucks for his import version of SSIV back then when it first came out!
Why do the backgrounds and floors look better on mega drive?
Parallax scrolling?
Megadrive 😍😍😍
Sega CD has better sound track quality but the Genesis wins with the actual graphics
For a strange reason, the Mega Drive version it's still rocks, why? Best color & details in stages, no loading times, no cutting animations, etc. But, by other hand Sega CD version sound is very superior, resolution... maybe the only thing. Even so, SCD is a very respectable versión. I stay with Mega Drive.
Ótimo comparativo.
Vários pontinhos amarelos durante o vídeo...rsrs
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Sega
I'd have to play both back to back to make the call on this one. They should have just taken the genesis rom and polished it. Added frames and cd sound and colour. That would have yeilded the best result, but what do I know. These are all just opinions and by default no one is right or wrong. But its fun to pretend! Lol Cause I'm always right...😁
Esse é o melhor port de jogo do neo geo para mega drive.
Mega CD version was better. The movements are the same as the arcade while in megadrive they were changed. The worst was that Mega CD version had a bug in Amakusa stage that breaks the game.
I have the original cartridge, personally I prefer the Genesis/Mega Drive palette, but I hate these annoying red flashes, these are a pain to the eyes.
Is that mai
O cara ter que gastar mais grana comprando um Sega CD e o jogo mais caro, pelo custo/benefício ou jogava no Meguinha mesmo ou vendia o Mega e comprava um SNes, era só se acostumar com o Earthquake anão. Agora se a grana tava sobrando investia mais e pegava logo um Neo Geo! 😆🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🤣
I like the genesis version. Background has more detail. But the cd has better detail in d players.
OMG Hanzo is so difficult to beat on the Mea Drive version. Mega CD has animated skies and larger sprites... I heard the Mega Drive has better gameplay but can't confirm that.
Imagino se a versão do mega tivesse 40mb como teve SSF2... Fizeram milagre com os 24mb. Essa do sega CD ficou muuuuuito fraca. Únicas coisas legais são músicas e alguns poucos cenários. Maioria está melhor no mega. E TB os quadros a mais e telas de vitória. Só.
All what the Sega CD has are the opening cinematic and the musics. For the rest, Genesis is superior, especially the graphics, which I don't understand, why did they downgrade the visuals on the Sega CD when they had enough room for the data?
Not enough RAM to handle all of the missing content, slow CD read speeds, plus an INCOMPETENT development team fulla SLOPPY-ASS BASTARDS... That's why they had SNK do all of the ports instead later on, when the 32-bit systems came out!
TAKARA VS JVC
*Eu Não Sou :-D :-D :-D Capaz de Opinar* !!!!! Brincadeiras a parte fico com a versão do Mega CD mesmo que não tenha havido a inclusão do personagem EARTHQUAKE e faltou o juíz que fica andando na parte do fundo nos cenários e a voz do narrador do jogo...
Graficamente e Sônoramente a versão do Mega CD ficou mais próxima a do Arcade da SNK e talvez até a do Playstation
Movimentação dos personagens ficou bacana e os cenários de fundo melhores apesar da limitação de movimentos dos Sprites
No kuroko in mega cd
Lembro que essa versão do Sega CD foi uma grande decepção para mim na época. Aluguei na locadora achando que teria o Earthquake para jogar, pensei que teria o zoom dos personagens e nada. A versão para Sega CD é muito esquisita, não tem nem o juiz, faltam vários detalhes nos cenários, o jogo da uma "engasgada" em cada começo da luta, onde os personagens parecem estar congelados e só depois descongelam. E claro, tem o lado ruim do loading maroto em cada luta.
Agora o lado bom da versão do Sega CD, ela por obrigação tem o áudio superior, mesmo faltando alguns detalhes nos cenários, eles parecem estar mais definidos e mais belos no Sega CD. E é possível jogar com o Amakusa, os personagens da versão Sega CD estão maiores, diria que do tamanho da versão para Neo Geo.
No geral prefiro a versão para Mega Drive/Genesis. Me divertiu bem mais.