Ole Miss fans throw trash on field after controversial fumble call vs Miss State
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2022
- During the college football game between Miss State and Ole Miss, some Ole Miss fans threw trash into the end zone after Mississippi State was given the ball after a controversial fumble call.
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Did anything else interesting happen this game? Honestly I was doing Thanksgiving stuff and hardly watched this game lol.
Well, neither team played defense well…
Miss st fumbled on the one to seal the game. Ole miss went 99 yards to pull within 2 and failed the 2pt conversion
@Monke ball Rivalry week is VERY lackluster this season, so that is one of the bigger games.
lane kiffin’s son being funny with the fire extinguisher
Ole miss almost tied it but didn’t, shuttle pass on two point conversion knocked away
The funny thing is the play in itself wasn’t controversial at all. The refs just made it that way by all the nonesense
Except it was. There is no angle to know when that ball left his hand and where it ended up down the line of the throw - no way you can tell without that angle on such a close play.
You can summits that with the QB standing perpendicular to the main line and his fight foot being behind it that the throw was released at least a foot maybe two behind that main yard marker, what you cannot tell us where exactly in relationship to the yard marker the person catching it was as their feet are close to the line as the ball bounces off.
If that is the only angle they had, no way should this have been reversed.
“You can summarize that with the QB standing perpendicular to the main line and his right foot being behind it…”
@Wayne Verhoff “wrong” I see you cannot refute what I said with any logic or evidence. Thanks for strengthening what I presented.
@Wayne Verhoff “because you’re just wrong lol it’s clear and obvious lol it’s a backwards pass”. When someone uses a word like “clear” or “obvious” (and especially both) without providing evidence, it reveals they cannot support their claim. So once again thank you for strengthening my statement.
Definitely a backwards pass. Maybe you could argue lateral, but rule is the same: fumble. Right call made without a doubt. GG
ALWAYS PICK UP THE FOOTBALL NO MATTER WHAT
no
Whatever you do, don't drop that shit
YUHHHHHH KING!!
True but apparently the reffs blew the whistle before the play.
Yeah the whistle blew, this should not be a turnover. Did not really affect the game but another really bad call. Good on The bulldogs, they played great D.
It seems that Rebels fans got in touch with their inner Cleveland Browns fans last night. That was a performance worthy of Bottlegate!
I was in Cleveland when bottlegate happened on business.
They almost burned it down.
The whole city. It was so jacked up that night in Cleveland. Weird vibe.
Like Cleveland without all the felons in the stands.
The only controversy was saying the play didn't exist. Should've been called a fumble or incomplete pass right away. Then go figure it out. It was clearly a fumble.
they blew the play dead when the ball was on the ground. By rule, ol miss can replay the down.
@@dannybailey3720 Hard to say from this when the whistle blew.
This is starting to become a trend in the SEC following controversial calls.
Edit: Guess this needs to be stated, I'm referring to the fans throwing trash on the field. This is probably the third time this season I've seen it. The refs have always been terrible, the fans reactions have been escalating.
Starting? Sec has been intentionally rigging games for years to get certain playoff teams 😂 sec is probably the worst officiated conference
@@IsaacMSingleton1 idk bro those ACC refs are pretty horrible too lol as a UT fan i don't ever wanna see those guys again after that Perdue matchup.
@@IsaacMSingleton1 dude neither of these teams are playoff teams that makes no sense at all
@@launchbase4944 I didn't say this game specifically but if you haven't watched the sec since then playoffs were created then I don't know what to tell you 😂 the sec rigs game specifically for the playoff push. Pretending this is something new is hilarious bama and Georgia have benefited more than any sec team since playoffs started, can't be because they were the playoff hopefuls for the sec.
@@ds--pu1tv agree on acc refs too 😂 they are God awful when it comes to their 1 playoff hopeful a season
Little did we know this would be Mike last game as head coach. Rest in peace pirate!
So according to the refs, you can make plays after the whistle. Interesting.
No, according to the RULES you can. The announcers talk about it.
@@MikeAltogether well thats a bad rule
@@clarencecompton9821 it's not though. The play was reviewed and then decided on. It's only a bad rule if your team loses because of it.
According to the scoreboard...Ol Missed Again blew it.
Yes. It's called "immediate continuing action". It's in the replay rules. Look it up.
tomorrow is Florida vs Florida St. expect a pregame fight
Well, backwards pass, and it was dropped, so that's a fumble.
But they blew it dead, meaning they can't review it.
So yes, correct call, bad execution.
Yeah but nothing after the whistle should count imo. If there had been no whistle the receiver maybe would have tried to get the ball.
Once the whistle is blown the play is dead, in other words whatever happens after the blown whistle doesn’t count, they should have replayed the down
Yeah. This is why I hate it when the refs blow the whistle too soon on situations like this. I know we got the better end of this play but that premature whistle always irks me every time they do that. Let the play run for a bit before you blow it unless your 100% sure on the call.
Tennessee fans to Ole Miss fans:
*"First time?"*
it’s come full circle. but still both fanbases act like children
@@GoatedAtNFS Ole Miss also threw trash at UT basketball in 2019.
Oh how the turned tables.
@@wesleyhicks9414 but people only mention how UT did it 😂
LSU fans remembering Peterson’s INT in 2009: laughs and then cries.
That call is dumb. It was whistled dead, the players stood there looking at the ball for a few seconds and only then did someone touch it, and the Miss St player clearly was just giving it to the ref. Idk what the right call was there but it wasn’t that.
As a bulldog fan I agree, I'm happy it went our way...but it shouldn't of.
@@happyblobfishgaming9231 yeah, I was rooting for Miss St in that game but like, come on, even that weird “unintentional whistle” would have been a better call
Total bullshit.
The refs gave themselves a big mess by not simply affirming that it was an incomplete pass. It wasn't, but it was close enough. That would be a lot less outrageous than allowing a post-whistle recovery.
Close? No, it’s a fumble.
@@jonnybaze7449 It was obviously a forward pass.
@@richardbaker_0086 released at the 30 and attempted catch at the 30. It wasn’t a forward or backward pass. It was a lateral aka a fumble.
@@richardbaker_0086 obvious Ol Miss fan is obvious. That was a lateral pass.
@@richardbaker_0086 amazing you can be so confidently wrong
Rest in peace Coach
it's the infamous browns jags game all over again
History repeating itself again but on a minor scale?
As an Ole Miss student. I have no hate for State after this game. Their receivers remembered that they have hands so they played well. We did not. HOWEVER the refs were so bad this game for both sides it was more of a disgruntled throwing because of the refs not towards the players at State. At least in my opinion. (Didn’t throw shit)
Enjoy the L
Literally threw chairs at State players after this game. You’re probably alright, but you ain’t speaking for most of them.
@@hnh5618 I didn’t see that. I left when y’all got the ball back because we didn’t have the timeouts to keep y’all from winning. Apologies on the behalf of the dumbasses
@@chrisdonahue I’ll put it right next to the CWS trophy we took from y’all
well ur soft
Such a classy bunch of people.
As a Tennessee fan I don’t want to hear another thing about Tennessee fans. Thank you Ole Miss fans.
Why not? You both suck and are terrible excuses for SEC fan bases…
Yep.
@@Tennessee968 They threw some trash on the field, that’s really stupid but you can understand it in the moment. UT fans threw golf balls and mustard bottles. They brought them to the game to throw and potentially hurt. Oh and they cheer when opposing teams players get injured. Most toxic fan base in America.
Your fans threw mustard bottles and hit the opposing coach with a golf ball. It's not the same thing and you know it. UT fans will hear it for a 100 years.
@@leonlillard6341 we do not cheer for opponents’ injuries. That would be South Carolina that was chanting during our injuries. The trash throwing spawned from Ole Miss’s actions in 2019 when we were #1 in the country
I’m surprised I didn’t see a mustard bottle on the field
They can get their own condiment UT owns the right to liter the field with mustard bottles and golf balls GB🍊
I haven't seen a dildo on the field in a while either...
Lmfao I wanna go to one of these games
Remember Ole Miss fans are pretentious. They'd have thrown Grey Poupon and Pro V1s to convince you they weren't raised in a double-wide.
Tennessee fans will act like they only threw a single golf ball and bottle of mustard instead of throwing enough trash to suspend the game for 15 minutes like they actually did, and then compare it to this.
@@Raya-ir4tm Noooo, this was not a mature response at all lol. I wish those students didn't do that.
@@goodbye.moonman nobody is trying to compare it to that however 100 pieces of trash isn't much different than 1,000 pieces of trash, its just beyond ironic Ole Miss fans completely bashed and bitch slapped us UT fans over that situation now they find themselves in literally the same exact situation lol oh how the tables turned.
Same act. It's funny that you actually think it's different. 😂
The fans are showing the officials what they think of them.
Saw it live. AWFUL call. They determined that he got to the ball "immedately" which is clearly not the case. Now the refs would've otherwise have scammed Miss St out of the ball that they would've gotten by blowing the whistle, but you've gotta follow the book. If you don't follow the book, what are you following?
Nah you’re just salty and biased bc your team lost
@@waffleman1299 lmao which team is "my team" according to you? I'm a SDSU and UCLA fan. What's your team?
@@waffleman1299 quiet now huh
@@justingolden21 bros quiet now I wonder why 😭
@@Kdenq3 Dude quit CZcams for life
Stay classy SEC
Every team has thrown trash at some point
This might be one of the all time worst calls I've ever seen in my football watching life🤦🏿♂️
They did this in hockey in New Jersey the other night throwing shit on the ice
Idk how you determine that was a backwards pass with that camera angle. Looked to me like the pass was thrown on the same line where it was almost caught
But that is a lateral, which is a fumble since the receiver dropped the ball.
Those two are the same thing.
In real time it almost looks like the whistle was blown before the ball even hit the ground. That's probably just my mind playing tricks but that's just hellish
That would be an inadvertent whistle then.
Maybe my ears are bad but I can't hear a whistle
Proud of our little brother Ole Miss! Taught ‘em everything they know. From losing games they should win, to throwing trash on the field and blaming the refs. Go Vols! 😂
there is no way someone who's team allowed 63 against an unranked team is talking 💀
@@duck4738 haha just joking around man. Sports are something that’s fun to me, so I love it when Tennessee wins, but I still enjoy the games and college football as a whole when we lose!
@@CanttReed true, as an oregon fan im talking trash about utah while we lost by 46 lol
@@duck4738 haha it’s part of the fun! Maybe see y’all in a bowl game!
the egg bowl ALWAYS has the worst refs its literally historical. and this is coming from a guy who isnt a fan of either team. i feel bad for this rivalry because it always gets fucked by the refs each game. fix this ncaa
not really its a fair rivary
I don't blame them. That's the worst call I've ever seen, in 30 years of watching football. You can't say it's an inadvertent whistle, watch everyone on both teams stop and look at the ball on the ground, then claim the guy picking it up and handing it to the ref is a 'recovery in the immediate action.' Absolutely atrocious officiating.
Bottlegate (Jaguars vs Browns in 2001) was a complete referee communication meltdown.
What is even more atrocious about this is that this is not one official making a bad call - this was a group of officials making this terrible call - that is why your sentence "Absolutely atrocious officiating" is exactly right.
lol what? It WAS a backwards pass, and the Miss State players DID recover the ball. Why should Miss St. be penalized for your qb/receiver’s sloppiness? Btw i have no horse in the race being a michigan state fan
the play was blown dead.
Atrocious officiating but still inexcusable on the part of the fans. I would be embarrassed if I was part of a crowd that was so trashy - pun intended.
Yall asked for this with your sports betting...
Gotta make their money somehow
The Browns fans would be proud.
Yes they are
There’s that famous SEC fan class
As a fan of Iowa and Kansas, I have no dog in this fight. But that is just sloppy officiating. You can't say a play doesn't count because of an inadvertent whistle one moment and then review it and say it counts the next, for starters. Second of all, the Ole Miss receiver never had possession of the ball; he dropped the pass. If it was to be ruled anything, it should have been ruled an incompletion.
It counts as a fumble because it was a backwards pass.
We do have a dog in this fight as iowa fans because it seems like every week we get called for unnecessary roughness when we push out players when they are close to the endzone but when it happens to us doesn’t happen. This was a shitty call tho.
@@redkritter1225 Nothing beats the Jan 1, 2006 Outback Bowl. That is the worst officiated game I have ever seen.
@@redkritter1225 Example
It was a lateral pass. The fact that it was thrown at the 30 and caught at the 30 proves it conclusively. People saying backwards pass are confusing you as to what the rule is.
Any ball that is not thrown forwards is a live ball even if it lands on the ground.
I watched this live and then replayed this twice to try to hear the whistle. I am fairly certain the whistle was blown while the ball was on the ground and before anyone had picked it up. Players are taught to play to the whistle then stop, so you really can't award an after the fact "recovery" to anyone. The first call was half correct, there was an inadvertent whistle. but it doesn't result in a replay, it just results in moving on to the next play. And contrary to what the announcer said, inadvertent whistles most certainly DO still impact games because the rules do not allow for a reversal of anything that took place after the whistle. The reply officials botched this one.
Um most players are taught play THROUGH the whistle. For example when players think it's a fumble they pick it up and start running until the whistle has been blown like 20 times. Or like wrestling for the ball, or extra yards in a pile after it's blown dead. The only think that stops is extra moves like tackles and passes
But I do think it wasn't an "immediate recovery because the players thought it was a bad forward pass, if they thought it was a fumble everyone would have played through that whistle
There goes ole miss being hypocrites after Tennessee did this last year it was bad but their own fans do it it’s ok 🤦♂️
They also did it to UT in basketball in 19 😂
The SEC has such bad sportsmanship.
The stadium got polluted! We hate that.
The thing is State only wanted it to be second down
If the play is blown dead can't continue as a fumble recovery
Wasn’t called dead it’s there
Doesn’t matter lmao cuz y’all couldn’t punch it in on that 2 point conversion
@@brysonking56 There is a clear whistle....which makes it a dead play.
@@joshmoats7981 state tried arguing that last year, but Memphis still had a win on their record.
And this is why I don’t like the SEC. Weird, considering I root for a team that is basically in the smaller SEC (Sun Belt).
Told y’all Ole Miss only win left after the LSU game was A&M
Very embarrassing for this SE area of the US……… doesn’t normally happen.
1. If there was an inadvertent whistle, then why on earth would they review a non-play?
2. It was not indisputable that the QB threw the ball backwards. To me, that just looked like an incomplete pass. Sure it was sideways, but you can't really tell if his arm was going forwards or backwards.
Ole Miss really got screwed on that one.
1.)the announcers explain what you asked
2.)You can see he threw the ball about where his right foot was and clearly see that his foot was on the 30 and the wr was on the 29
Also by rule a sideways pass is a backwards pass…so you saying “sure it was sideways” tells what you need to know
Has nothing to do with where the Players feet are.....the only thing that matters is where the BALL Travels. If the Ball goes even the slightest bit forward it cannot be a backwards pass. If it(the Ball) goes sideways or backwards it is a fumble.
Also a whistle is supposed to make a play dead and non reviewable with no exceptions.
Either way it shouldn't have been a fumble simply because the whistle was blown...doesn't matter if accidently or prematurely. This is why they are taught to let a play continue if there is any doubt on a fumble or turnover.
Why would Ole Miss fans trash their OWN field 😂?!? That’s so dumb and entitled.
They are lawless.
This has been by far the worst year for SEC officiating I have ever seen. I mean game after game ive seen bs calls and no calls. Its wild
Kinda ironic Tennessee was throwing trash at them last year😂😂😂 karma
Happy Thanksgiving everyone
I was at this game and we waited so long in the rain for the refs to come up with something to do
You stay classy, Oxford…
it was a fumble but you can see #11 on ole miss come towards the ball but not make an attempt at recovering it, the whistle clearly made a difference on the play so I think they should've just replayed the down
replaying the down would helped te offence that blew an easy play. the early whistle screws everyone. you dont know who would have recovered the ball.
That appears to be a lot closer to a forward pass upon further inspection. It looks like a backwards pass because the receiver is behind the QB when the ball is thrown. But when you compare the front foot of the QB when the ball is thrown, it's parallel to or slightly behind the front foot of the receiver when the ball is caught.
But where was the WR's body? If they were inline, then it would be a side pass.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 Based on ball position when it leaves the QB's hand and when it touches the RB, or whoever that was, it appears to be almost perfectly straight across. I wouldn't confidently be able to call it one way or the other. So what's a side pass mean then? Incomplete or Fumble?
@@TheFudily If you type in "if a ball is passed sideways in football and then dropped" into google, you will get your answer. Somehow, CZcams erased my entire comment when I cited it.
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 I see. A side pass is considered another form of a lateral or backwards pass and should be considered a live ball.
With that being settled, I think the next biggest issue for me is that #11 had a good chance at recovering the ball until the play was blown dead.
Seems kinda weird to me that they're essentially telling the players to play through the whistles, which is cause for another whole slew of penalties and injuries.
Wait, this isn't Cleveland!?!
imagine if he just caught the ball
The whistle was blown before the play got going, and it’s obvious being inadvertent, that when the play supposedly ended, it really did not end. The play actually ended when the Mississippi state player picked up the ball and handed it to the referee.
Those who argued, play to the whistle, cannot confirm this argument, because the play continued well after the whistle was blown. For those who argued that this was an incomplete pass, the ball was not thrown forward, but to the back. Any backwards throw that’s not caught is considered a fumble, per the rules.
They should've just gone ahead and replayed the down. It was a shitshow no matter what. Very close call on the lateral (I think it was backwards and hence a fumble) but since they blew the whistle and nobody was diving on the ball anyway, just replay the down. And next time, dive on the ball no matter what.
Alabama's only legitimate win is now on a 3 game losing streak. LOL.
Please tell me this isn't the ref crew from the Bama at Tennessee game?
What a new tier of terrible calls. He was never close to having possession. Terrible.
Kiffin: Hello, Auburn, about that deal. Still interested?
Flashback to when Tennessee did this same thing to this same team for a controversial call
Worst fans in the entire country
I wonder if they will get in trouble for this. Maybe pay a fine for this?
Yall forgot the mustard rookies!!
Based off where the QB was when he threw the ball and where the RB was when he attempted to catch it, looks like the ball went on a diagonal path. Not forward or backward.
The angle of the camera made it look like it went backwards.
That is my prospective.
Sideways is still a lateral, which is the same thing as a backwards pass. Still results in fumble.
ball was released at the 29 1/2. dropped at the 30. it wasnt backwards
You know it’s bad when you can hear the “what the fuck”ness in the commentators voice
This is almost like the Tennessee game last year!!!
Lane Kiffin has had those boys distracted for 2 weeks now with his going not going
SEC refs have been especially god awful this year
That pass was perfectly straight across. Not backwards or forwards
That's a lateral then which is also a fumble
Fortunately, Ol Missy is such a great team that no one call makes even a dent in their national championship march.
This is why SEC isn't as great a conference they think they are
The sad part was that tackle attempt.
How is that a fumble if he didn't even have control of the ball?
Because it was not ruled a forward pass. You can see the linesman at the bottom of the screen immediately point his arm backward indicating that the QB threw a lateral/backward pass. It's a live football.
@@67L48 except it was ruled a forward pass and blew it dead. By rule there is no change of possession
@@poisonpotato1 I'm just answering your question. You asked how it can be a fumble. What I answered with is the reason how. I'd have to go back and look at it again to understand how it was "ruled" by the crew, because the linesman definitely did NOT rule it a forward pass. You can clearly see him indicate the backward pass immediately when the ball leaves the QB's hand.
Once an official blows the whistle, the play is dead in college (different from NFL). So, the last part of your statement is correct. The refs completely blew the call. It was a fumble, but the whistle blew while the ball was loose. Possession remains with the team who lost possession.
where qb throws and where rb catches it is not noticeably a backward pass, like maybe inches. and if the rule is anything like the forward pass over the line of scrimmage (all your body has to be passed to violate rule), this was a lateral.
There is no distinction between lateral and backward pass. They are the same. There is only a distinction between forward pass or not. If it went forward, then it's an incomplete pass. If it didn't go forward, regardless of whether it was perfectly sideways lateral or slightly backward or straight backward, then it's a live football.
Usually it's Auburn that benefits from bad officiating. I remember a backwards spike that Arkansas recovered but they gave it back to Auburn.
I'm not a fan of either team, but that was a really bad call. To even make a call other than to replay the down after and inadvertent whistle is pretty crazy
At least there wasn't a mustard bottle.
State alum and die hard. I agree, I didn’t think it was/should have be overturned. That being said, come on ole miss, throwing trash on the field is always a (no pun intended) trashy look. I’d say the same if state fans did it. SEC officiating needs a thorough review this offseason for sure. Looking at you Sankey. Hail State, and I know the majority of ole miss fans will agree throwing stuff on the field is never a good look. We’re better than Tennessee!
THANK YOU!!!!!!! And Hail State!
I agree, throwing trash is a bad look. It’s just that we had gotten terrible calls 3 games in a row and this one was so obviously a dead ball, anybody would be frustrated. Not to mention it was the student section toward the end of a night game and it’s the perfect storm.
It was a lateral, and by rule a fumble. This is a rule I wish could be changed to where it would simply be ruled incomplete.
And yet they couldn’t review Jack Campbell’s obvious td vs Minnesota. I hate refs.
Ref claims play never happen. Also same ref the play that didn't happen was a fumble and recovered by the other team so it is there ball because logic.
I don't understand these calls. if the whistle is blown early, a fumble should never be an option on review. otherwise it encourages players to play after the whistle is blown everytime.
this is poor sportsmanship by the fans to do on a call that looked right.
By letting the post whistle play count, wouldn't this incentivize players to revisit ignore whistle just to be safe? That seems like a bad message to send
Sec is the "best" conference lol
Wow that's such a bull crap call at first then the wright call
At the end of the day that was a backwards pass. From when the ball left the qbs hand to the receiver touching it it would be backwards by less then a foot. Still not enough in my opinion to overturn it tho. Should of stayed Ole Miss ball tho due to not enough evidence. I still believe that was backwards tho.
I think both sides can agree it was just handled horribly by the refs. If you're a ref and you have ANY doubt that it's a fumble you let it play out AND THEN review it for this reason.
As an Arkansas fan a play somewhat similar happened to us when we played Auburn in 2020 and could have changed the outcome of the game for us.
That was a backwards pass and that was a fumble. However, I will say as an outsider it's tough to say if it's fair Mississippi State got the ball on a play blown dead because it didn't give both sides a fair opportunity to get a chance to recover. If you're the Ole Miss WR that dropped it why would you try to pick it up if it was blown dead?
Doesn't matter if it was backwards or not. Inadvertent whistle throws all that out
Always dive on the ball no matter what.
Bad officiating is the single biggest problem in sports today... And you're not even supposed to talk about it!
Looks like they learned from Tennessee last year... anyone else remember THAT ugly scene in Knocksville? :/
So it was the Ole Miss fans throwing crap on the field last year at Neyland. Ban them from attending any home or away games for two seasons.
Does the pass not start and end at the 30???
SEC probably has the worst officiating crew in the power 5
Aggie fans don’t throw trash on the field. Ole Miss fans did it again during the LSU game on 9-30-23.
Funny how people only mention the time when UT did this lol oh how the tables have turned.
It was 100% a fumble... and it was 100% bad reffing... replay saved the day...
2022: the year of the bottlegate reboot
Sec refs at it again lmao.