Anime is Changing & The Dark Reason Why
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Today at the Mystery Shack, we take a more meta-look at the anime sphere and explore the changing trends of the industry. We’ll be examining everything from the controversial batch releases of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Part 6, to the ever-increasing number of movies following Demon Slayer’s success - all to discuss how that might affect your viewing habits in this new age of anime. Though most importantly - we also examine the dark side of the industry and why these changes are happening to begin with.
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Timecodes:
0:00 Changing Times & How We Got Here
5:22 Enter Netflix
6:24 The JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Situation & Batch Releases
10:25 Netflix Jail & The Case of Beastars
11:32 Netflix Jail & The Case of The Great Pretender
13:23 So… Netflix bad?
14:30 The Streaming Wars
15:31 Ok, but what about my anime?
16:23 Movies & Region Locked Releases
16:46 The Precedent - Demon Slayer : Mugen Train Movie
19:38 The Follow Up - Jujutsu Kaisen
21:06 The Trend - SAO Progressive, Kaguya-sama Movie, One Piece Film Red
24:06 So… Movies bad too?
26:10 A Community Divided
28:36 The Dark Truth: The People Behind the Animation
33:27 So what now?
35:17 Outro
#Anime #Animation - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Dark side of the Industry: As a person in the Animation Industry, who was previously involved in a Japanese Animation project; I can say it is a FACT that MOST if not ALL Animes are animated in the Philippines, China, Vietnam, and Thailand. Hundreds of animators from the respective countries are classified as Douga Animators (In-betweeners) and they are typically paid 1-2 USD per FRAME. Usually animators try to complete 15 frames per day to survive. In animation, 1 sec of animation consists of 24 frames and Japanese Animation averages around 12 fps. It really sucks hard that the people who are grinding real hard to make animes for us to watch earn the LEAST. No one in Japan or Korea wants to animate anymore due to poor treatment of animators. Most of them go take on roles such as Key Artist, Storyboardist and Character Designers to avoid the Animator hell sadly. in short - Anime is made by exploiting 3rd world animators and most of the money is eaten up by the top.
In-est and Fanservice and Lolis are also BIG Problems.
Wow this was an eye opener ,thank you for bringing this to light . Do you know which studios do this or is it all studios ?
Please stop spreading false information on the internet. You’ve nothing to back your claims with
@@elphie2390 bro was working with japanese studios dude💀
@@michael-bz5qz even if we knew i dont think boycotting them would help
I feel like this isn’t just a anime problem, streaming ruined live action, cartoons, drama, etc. Shows in general have changed over the past decade.
its not streaming that's the problem, its the way its used, especially the batch release style.
Also, aren't anime just cartoons?
@@projekttaku1 They are both animation mediums, however anime works on it's own separate industry. Technically they can be considered just japanese cartoons, however people usually differentiate as their are both disconnected from one another.
@@graphite7898 oh, lol, guess your right.
I still consider them the same thing but with different histories and tropes making them different.
@@projekttaku1 No because anime is generally more adult-oriented.
By today's standards cartoon shows are political trash. While anime is entertainment for straight men who don't be insulted every 30 seconds.
But an old show like X-Men the Animated Series is really good. Or old Justice League. I don't care about the new films or shows though because I already know it's going to be anti-male anti-Caucasian anti-hetero garbage.
The older stuff is more like anime where it's normal to have eye-catching female characters and men aren't humiliated for no reason.
However X-Men or anything from the West never goes as far as fanservice anime. The comedy and absolute charm of feminine characters in anime destroys anything ever made outside of Japan.
If you don't believe me look at the new She-Ra who looks like a male. And compare her to the old She-Ra who is a beautiful female character. But imagine is the old She-Ra was made in Japan instead. It would have been wild! Not like I care about She-Ra. It's just a good example.
@@tokiwartooth4404 what do you mean anti-caucasian? Caucasian men get treated pretty well in our media. Just recently Partner track and love in the villa got announced by Netflix and have millions of views. Both of them feature supposedly handsome white men romancing POC women.
It's actually white women who are being erased really sneakily. Try to think of major recent romcom featuring a white female vs a POC female....you'll get my point. And POC men rarely get any major roles, romantic or action.
I agree the current climate is anti male and anti hetero in general but I disagree that Caucasians are getting negatively affected much more disproportionately. I think everybody's getting screwed over except the LGBTQOASSSIIH community and feminists.
Along with the issues regarding people having little money to pay all the streaming platforms, here's another: Subtitles.
Anyone who used to use fansubs in the mid-2000s know how talented and how attentive fansubbers were when translating anime. From different fonts to match background signs, to translation notes, to karaoke sections with animated effects, it was part of the charm.
Just a few months ago I rewatched Ghost in the Shell through PrimeVideo and it was a mess: Mistranslated lines, missing lines, other languages mixed in and syncing issues. Even without those, Netflix only ever translates voice lines and ignores text balloons or signs that may be important for context, not to mention cutting OP/EDs or changing their themes because they're too lazy/cheap to license 100% of the show.
You pay so much more, for a much worse service.
Not only that, dubbers are also throwing in their political agendas every now and then, there are some infamous scenes out there. Instead of people that enjoy anime, they hire people that barely cares instead. Almost nothing can go mainstream these days, what does will almost inevitably get ruined by corporate greed and political agendas through people that barely care about a good story to begin with.
Oh my God i used to love all the little extra texts and balloons to explain things even when it was on its own since it was a weird notion or something. Sadly we wont see this for newer animes since 90% are just seasonal garbage
Another example of this is with Beastars on Netflix. The subtitles are obviously a translation of the original Japanese and the language is different and much more formal then the English dub. So what you hear and what you read do not match. It's very frustrating.
my pet peeve with a lot of those dubbers is they would translate the lines literally, and leave out the nuances or slang, so it would read so robot like and unnatural, and the syntax would be left in for the language that was being translated but not changed for better english understanding, the most famous case of this obviously is the game Zero Wing. But I have seen that kind of thing in a multitude of custom dubs.
Yesssss yes yesssss between 2002-2008 it was a thing that was very well done!!
as an animator, hearing people talk about underpaid animators as a big issue makes me really happy. I'm working at a japanese animation company for a year now, n all the horror stories are not even a little bit exaggerated, in fact they may not even be told enough. we worked more than 15 hour almost everyday all out of passion n our name doesnt even go into the credits. finishing work at 9pm is considered early n my salary is barely enough to survive the month with no OT pay. but recently ive gotten laid off n offered to freelance instead. definitely smelled fishy with no company benefits n changing from basic salary to less than a dollar for a single sheet when a single sheet could take up anywhere from 30 mins - 2 hours. i decided not to go with the scam but unfortunately means i cant continue in the japanese animation industry. me leaving doesn't affect the industry in any way cuz more people will continue to go in. i really hope the industry improves itself. i cant watch anime without wondering how many people r hospitalized or even died to make just a single episode.
@@hargssgrah4738 nice bait pal.
@@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN reason I believe it is fake is cause there are lots of propaganda bots/paid-for-people that are typing shit against japan that are paid for by china and/or other nastys. Japan does have a 'not enough pay' and 'overworking problem' that's true though.
Can you tell which studio you worked with, or at least give a clue?
Is there something we as fans can do about this problem? Like I really want you guys to get proper vacations a better salaries, anime is becoming huge, you need to get benefits according to that growth.
You can make a difference man, keep sharing your experience and standing on your morals. That is not Ok and we NEED to change it.
All of this is why I actually was kinda stoked when Uzumaki announced an indefinite delay, explaining they wanted to get the linework right and be certain that they are honoring the original. It honestly made me kinda happy, provided it actually does get released, because I felt like I was hearing a production company say they're putting quality before profit, which is almost never done.
Quality over profits hmm, reminds me of a popular snack that was discontinued, it was too expensive to make. Things like grain and sugar are much easier to make and therefore way more profitable.
Anime needs Valve time
sure we are waiting hl3 for god knows how long
but as long as to get quality up we have no problem
quality = profit. you are mistaken.
@@chunkymilk there have been a lot of media where companies clearly didn't invest in animation/ writing/ something, clearly not every project is prioritized in a budget
@@chunkymilk Explain the tidal wave of shit anime to me then
When money goes up, Creativity goes down.
This issue is not exclusive to the anime industry, but can be found in every other industry, including games, music, books, or movies.
Its the most simplified statement I’ve ever seen. Without money you can’t have any project, and there is a great amount of projects with absurde amount of money and crazy creativity. Any way, its more about time than money.
It can be said in this way "with big budget you get big responsibility, and you stick to trends casting aside your creativity in fear of losing big deal"sure budget is important but when art turns into a business everyone loses it
Not as much if that money is being used for breadth. The more series that gets produced, the more competition we have. And the best way for new content to stand out is to expand into other genres. And that's one of the good things I've heard about Netflix. That they had been green lighting projects that would appeal to a wider audience, but not as much to Japan's domestic audience.
@Sp0iledTransgirl Ah yes, all the money from fifa seems to be boosting their quality...
video games and movies are def hit hard with this now a days
I've never felt bad for pirating anime, but recently, it feels like I'm being encouraged to do it.
Same honestly
what does this mean? lol
What the fuck is your icon???
@@jcabeza4248 Too many streaming services and fees to pay, when in the same time, you've got your bills to pay and you, yourself, hardly make a living with your current job 😉
@@goldflo91 If the economy was that bad, there’d be a lot more rioting.
I make sure to always thank the creators of manga/webtoons whenever they go on hiatus. They deserve that break, period. If I liked the series enough to stick with it through a whole season of content until they reached a hiatus...
*Then clearly it's good enough to wait for*
Preach!
I always get sad when some webcomics decide to change their art styles instead of giving artists a break or a large enough paycheck.
Some webcomics (mostly manhuas - chinese comics) are produced/owned by firms & do not rely on a signature artist for publicity.
So instead of going on breaks when the artist is sick they release badly drawn chapters or after a while they just change out artists anyway. It could be because their contract is over or because he got some publicity and wanted to be paid a fair wage.
You get used to the story and artstyle and then it looks completely different - it's really sad and can kill a story.
Worse even -> sometimes the new creators don't even remember the looks of the characters correctly so some characters look visually completely differnt.
Sometimes it also seems like they exchanged the whole team, including the story writer, as they just forget some character interactions or some character skills suddenly work completely differntly...
Even if you have to replace the crew you should at least pay them enough & give them enough time to read through the script or the old chapters!
The only webcomic I know that actually plans art changes is "The legendary moonlight sculptor" and there I'm just sad that the newest art style looks "generic".
I absolutely adored the drawing style of the first few seasons because they gave it a very unique charme.
I was sort of glad when one of my favourite illustrator went on break while illustrating Payback, their art is so unique and amazing that they deserve to rest up
AOT season being in the "final season" isn't a marketing stunt. It was poor planning based on incomplete information. The "Final season" was announced before the manga ended and before anyone (including the author) knew how many chapters would be left. The way the author was talking at the time it sounded like the series was going to wrap up any chapter now. But it just kept going for quite a while longer.
To be fair attack on titan already had multiple parts of previous seasons too so it's not like they only did this for the last season
Waitaminute... That rushed garbage ending is the long version???
I think that sounds like a terrible reason for an organization to name their series season, "The Final Season". There is definitely more to it there. They would have just kept it at AoT season "x". It is named Final Season for a marketing purpose in one way or another.
Yea the last episode was a perfect ending to season four in my opinion, and I consider anything coming up to be season 5
either way that was enough for me to drop t i was ready to be done and over with
Another thing that seriously pisses me off is when streaming services lock up certain series (most of the time "originals") into their service without ever releasing them on disc so everyone who wants to see it legally is forced to buy a subscription.
I understand what you feel but that's really how business work. It's like if you want to acquire money, you must work; if you like to enter an establishment, you must have a pass/permission. They would have these "exclusives" so they can persuade you to go premium
@@harouin9263 all they do is turning the people that want to watch the show to piracy or lead them to not watch the show at all. both scenarios these services would like to avoid usually
@@harouin9263 People who still love physical media like me just get shafted hard because these goddamn streaming services keep their shows to themselves.
@@harouin9263 Ah no, people just pirate
@@wolfbrigade8042 You've been getting shafted for years and if you were smart you would've seen it coming.
The fact that you can see a sub or dub at the same time it’s airing in Japan is astounding to me. When I was into anime, it was often a few-year gap from when it came out in Japan until a release happened in the west…back in the days of taking blank VHS tapes to anime cons in order to trade for fansubs.
I remember that era of watching Anime outside of Japan. We either got the Fox kidz or Kids WB versions here in America or Adult Swim. I remember them finishing the first 50 episodes of the Soul Society arc of bleach in 07, then over the summer, I saw clips of an episode that was in an arc that wouldnt show up for close to 70 episodes later and at somepoint in 2009.
Sometimes us foreigners never even got continuations because TV didnt pick them up again. But that ended sometime around 2012 thanks to the internet and sights like Crunchy Roll. Kids who love anime have no idea how little we got or how in the dark we were after a series ended or the Dubbed versions temporarily ran out. Though nowdays, I have moved away from Anime quite a bit since its become so nauseatingly in my face and so widely accepted by the mainstream that I feel offended on a deeply emotional level. I remember when liking Anime was grounds for harrassment and bullying, or a form of media that kids liked or the weird kids were into.
It's actually not a good thing for English dubbing. This means that most dubs are going to be pushed out as quickly as possible with less eyes on scripts and less time on quality over all. Add in the fact that there are studios grabbing up and even starting dubs on series that they find out later are far too erotic for their brand *cough* interspecies reviewer and you have a huge mess of people not even understanding what they are dubbing or caring about character consistency overall.
Edit: I realize this doesn't just affect english dubbing, but any dubbing any time when a dubbing studio is pushed to try to put out the dub with the original release is going to struggle. The original voice actors tend to record before animation even starts so there is no pressure on them (unless they have to redo a line) to get something completed with such a tight time crunch.
@@Ame-ASMR-Princess imo most english dubs are disappointing and with it being such an incestuous industry I don't really care if this iteration collapses. as time passes it only becomes increasingly easy to directly support releases through merchandise which often have english options from increased oversea sales
@@gordo6908 most english dubs are disappointing because of how cringy anime lines really sound. when you hear it in english you understand how bad the lines actually are. this is because anime is TOO over expressive. nobody notices it while watching it in sub but when you understand it you can finally realize wow most shounen jumps have really bad lines. not all anime though berserk is fantastic dubbed (90s) and cowboy bebop. it sounds natural because those are the rare anime targeted towards adults in their 20s. while you got something like demon slayer targeted towards teens in high school.
@@thelel6591 No they're disappointing because they get like the same 12 or so dub VAs for every single one. The people who tend to watch dubs are the same kind of weirdos who you see on Twitter calling people kid diddlers for watching Dragon Maid. These type of people gave us cringe lines in the Sk8 dub about 'non-binary hoes'.
Mostly anime studios don't even own the IPs and are simply contractors who work for production committees. In comparison, it's nice to have Kyoto Animation as a studio which prefer to create their own production committees so they can provide better work conditions for the animators. While most of the production committees are owned by huge media corps like Sony and firms like Shueisha (famous by Shounen Jump manga magazine) or Kadokawa (father of most of the isekai series).
Unfortunately kyoanis anime is not interesting and is just pretty
@@sinew1000 totally agree. But I think that more anime studios should adapt this production model and to own their IPs because it seems right now it's the most clear way to raise wages of animators.
@@sinew1000 so true
@@sinew1000 Not too sure about that one lol.
I have some ideas:
#1: they should fund the productions themselves
#2: Fund/Distribute/sell the Home media Releases Themselves
#3: Sell Merchandise, Dvds and Blu Rays Though A Store that the Studio Runs and Owns Themselves
#4: Upload There anime to CZcams for Free and Every view they get, = $
#5: Make Crunchyroll Pay Every time That Studios Anime is Streamed and Everytime Someone Subscribes, they get money as well
Like Netflix, the anime industry has become obsessed with just sheer volume. There used to only be a handful of anime around and a good percentage of them were good quality. Nowadays, there are so many anime out there that aren't worth watching, but it's heartbreaking to know that studios are just driving their animators to pump them out regardless.
I don't like how mainstream anime is going right now, but I can't say a good percentage of them were good quality. Back then we had 99 moeshit shows for every good anime and nowadays we have 99 isekais for every good one, it's literally the same.
Its because a lot more women and minorities are watching anime now and they have horrible sub-normie taste
I dunno about that, there has always been throw away and forgettable anime every cour
There's always been a large amount of garbage. In the early 2000s it was garbage moe shows. Then it was garbage loli shows. Now it's isekai.
@@joeyrhubarb2558 yeah, 99% of everything is shit, but everyone always forgets the 99% and only remember the good is called rosy recolection, in 20 years from now everyone will talk about the clasics from the 2010/20s and how shit anime has become now a days that everyone is a anime fan and how the companies have selled out
Pirating a show is sometimes the only way to watch a show. There have been loads of shows i want to watch but can't because its not in my country
That reminds me of the early days of CZcams when whole episodes of an anime would be uploaded in parts. I got into a lot of shows through that.
@@hope-cat4894 what sucks is CZcams is extremely touchy about copyright.
@@hope-cat4894 yeah i remember watching all of OG naruto on youtube wayyyy back lol
not only bein country restricted but the sheer amount of subscriptions you need to see the original series
@@hope-cat4894 old days? A year ago I found episodes of owl house a damn Disney show. And some badlad plit the episodes into 20s parts then put them all into a playlist so u could watch it without interruption xd.
It worked for a while...
“anime is becoming more mainstream, and that can only be a good thing”
…why? I can totally understand it not being a complete bad thing, but that doesnt mean its necissarily completely good either. you are just making the same error as “gatekeepers” of being absolutist, but in the opisite direction.
it becoming more mainstream will have various effects both good bad and qualitatively its own. you will loose some aspects that you had when it was more niche, but you will gain others from it having broader appeal.
Don’t take this the wrong way as I do love the sheer amount of choices for anime to watch. The downside is that with so much each season coming out the fandom just naturally drifts to different new and shiny anime and the discussion of any one show simply gets lost in the noise.
I agree with you.
welcome to consumerism
The sad thing is, I’m laser-focused on an anime from 1998 (Trigun) but also like some new stuff like Sonny Boy. This is exactly my problem. I want to talk about only a handful of specific shows, but feel left behind because of how long it takes me to watch them. I can read the manga / light novel much faster, but I can’t always find that or it might not even exist because the anime isn’t an adaptation or it’s an adaptation of a game.
Every its like new season of popular show some new best girl from new show and grab top 5 sit there and a lot of new shows never to get a second for the rest of the decade and wash out into oblivion .
@@luxill0s SAME Ive always been laser focused on YYH. But a few over time have got my attention. But my top 4 will ALWAYS be YYH, Death Note, Samurai Champloo and Gungrave. 💖
Anime becoming mainstream is not all sunshine and rainbows. Just like with comic books, some will want to change it that aren't even seasonal anime fans.
I love how Re-Makes are literally not a Thing in ANime. I mean, NO MATTER how giga-massively a Season flops because of obvious reasons, it wont be overhauled and re-done. Admitting failure is not a THING.
@@slevinchannel7589 there is the Fruits Basket remake; Spice and wolf is getting one and have you ever heard of FMA Brotherhood? If you mean like the cartoon remakes we've been getting then yeah, I agree
@@Sunnernite I did not mean a full Series be remade though and even less did i mean when it WAS sucessfull.
I mean epic Fails like Seven Deadly Sin's SIN-SEASON.
@@Sunnernite Im happy for those things and i hope it happens to Soul Eater,
but it just aint what just meant.
Remake Season 2 of Promised Neverland!
@@slevinchannel7589 I think it's because Japan respects source material.
Man, region locked theatrical releases are the worst. Especially when you are from eastern parts of Europe. Everyone seems to forget about us here. I sent an email to movie distributing agencies in my country asking if there will be a theatrical release of JJK 0 and they told me no, because anime isnt popular here. We only got Belle that screened ONCE in theatres....despite every third person on the street of my small hometown wearing anime related clothing, despite libraries and bookstores creating whole manga sections (which was never the case up until 6 months Ago), despite every major clothing store selling anime merch etc....yeah. With that attitude, pirating is the only way unfortunately. I will never stop being angry about not being able to see JJK 0 on big screen.
I don't personally live in those places, but if it's bad in towns of Europe, imagine how bad it is in South Americains or African places.
@@RGC_animation Bahamian here. We were lucky to get Mugen Train and MHA3 in this country.
@@RGC_animation As someone that lives in South America (Chile). It could be better but isn't that bad. Both Mugen Train and JJK0 were released here. One Piece, Dragon Ball, and Conan have had movies released, I think a silent voice and BELLE also was released. I remember having watched Your Name.
Right now, as we speak, Dragon Ball Super: SUPER HE is being shown in theaters.
Cinemark has been doing a decent job at distributing anime movies here, I know they also do it in Peru and I assume it is also done in Mexico.
@@nik021298 I'm guessing you live in a big city? In Brazil you can only get those in Sao Paulo, if you're lucky.
I only have 1 thing to say to you: V.P.N
It's so refreshing to have someone talk about the availability of any popular media outside the USA, because we face unique struggles around the world. The struggles the USA fans have are nearly irrelevant to someone living in Europe, and the struggles of us living in Europe are nonexistent to someone living in the USA.
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The animator issue reminds me so much of the issues with the triple A gaming industry in America. Hopefully, the anime community doesn't turn blind to bad industry practices like so much of the gaming community.
Lol. The anime community doesn't give a shit about worker abuse as long as they get their fix.
Wokeness kills all
Just like gaming, they don't give a shit, they all care about CONSOOOOOOMIIING
2D animation is a lost cause. The amount of labor required for it is insurmountable compared to 3D and Games. I’m surprised it survived this long without inbetweening being automated. Many of the Japanese freelancers would be ecstatic to have the wages and workload of Blizzard.
@@RadenWAThere are people and artists out there who are passionate about the medium and as technology advances, the load can be lessened if you take the time to figure it out. Maybe 2d animation will be contained for niche projects or a big studio doing a 'risky' project but that doesn't make it a lost cause
As for Japanese animators killing for blizzard salaries, it's not productive comparison to make as that is part of the problem in the japanese animation industry. People from other countries willing to work for less. At the end of the day a shitty situation is a shitty situation and a lot of blizzard employees don't get to earn a livable wage in bad work conditions. The answer to that isn't 'well someone has it worse'
The huge gap between batches kills everything, and the fact that animes usually already cut out info from the manga itself, makes trying to get back to the anime at the next batch extremely confusing since you would have forgotten many details
Still better than keeping up with a show weekly. How the hell am I supposed to remember what happened in the last 20 minutes from a week ago, when I watched 3 different entire finished series in the meanwhile? Western shows with their 40-60 minutes shows aren't that good to keep up with either, but still better than just 20...
@@janisir4529 sounds like you have bad memory.
@@samuelgiroux6819 Can't confirm nor deny that. But either way, memorizing the plot of 3 other entire shows totally overwrites the practically nothing that is 20 minutes a week ago.
@@janisir4529 while I can partially agree with what your saying, I think where we differ is in our own experiences.
While remembering multiple shows can be jarring for someone to remember over a given duration of time, such as what your suggesting, I personally feel like my engagement of the series, and my anticipation for the next episode keeps the shows events relatively fresh in my mind.
But I understand that not everyone thinks like me, so that’s obviously not the norm.
@@janisir4529 And that's why most weekly released animes had the recaps at the start, to give you a refresh on what happened in the last episode. Not sure if batch released animes which are more geared towards binging still have these (I stopped watching anime a few years ago due to the issues discussed in this video).
I think a good compromise when it comes to releasing episodes is the Arcane method. Releasing three episodes a week gives the audience enough content to make serious progress in the story and keeps them satisfied. I dont think 30 min of content a week is enough for most people anymore. It also give the show time to build up positive word of mouth and keeps people subscribed for another month.
Problem again with that is the wait time between seasons. Look at arcane now,it's been more than a year,and not a trailer for the new season. The next season they said will probably take place only in 2023 end or 2024,so releasing 3 episodes per week for an anime would kill the hype pretty quick after an anime season ends
because people nowadays have the attention span of a toenail
In jojos case it would probably be better for 2 a week. Since there's a pattern with every battle taking 2 episodes. So releasing a battle a week keeps you satisfied and still wondering for more.
@@Toothpork arc release system would be dope
@@Greg12839 People need a larger attention span to watch and absorb 90 min of content then 30 min. Guessing you mean they lack the patience to wait for weekly episodes.
As someone who watched anime when the standard was 24 episodes, I can tell your opinion comes from an age where people expect anime to run on forever.
To me this is the problem with anime today. It went from telling a story into a sitcom running 10 plus seasons.
I mean to be fair the standard episode count I the 80/90s was 30-100 epsidoes
@@alchemistofsteel8099 not for most. sure there were still long running anime back then but it wasn't common. mainly because of funding and time restraints. most artists were lucky to get picked by studios back then.
@@alchemistofsteel8099 you definitely made some great points. honestly it all comes down to money lol.
I just miss the early 2000s anime. Loved the artstyles so much more than the new ones now a days. The coloring and face of anime characthers and also the animation it self just so different now a days.. I also feel like they had better OST. There has been a huge lack of good harem and slice of life shows as well.. feel like isekai killed harem. Also hate when an old series get a new season and the artstyle is like so much worse (at least in my opinion) examples: Date a live season 1 had by far the best artstyle in the series, The latest season of Highschool DxD made some of the characters unrecognizable and artstyle was just so boring compared to the earlier seasons. I dont even want to imagine how a lot of the good old series would look like if they were animated within the last couple of years.. I just know it would be horrible. Just imagine if Death Note would have been animated this year... sure it might have still been good but I just cant see it be anywhere close as good as it is. When I watch a lot of new Anime I often think... "what if this was animated like 10 years ago instead...." since I believe it would have been way better executed back then. I want Haruhi to get new season but at the same time I dont since I am scared that the artstyle will be too different from the first season. We also don't see characters with big eyes like Clannad anymore. AoButa is probably the most recent anime were I actually liked the artstyle. I still watch new anime but I just highly preferred the ones from earlier 2000 like (2000-2014 ish). remember the times were most of the main characters had ahoge I feel like this trait has completely died out. I know people liked to say that anime was too cliche (especially slice of life) yeah sure it was but I enjoyed those cliches a lot. Sure artstyle and storytelling is subjective... I also loved the 90s style a million times more than what we have in the last couple of years but nothing beats early 2000s FOR ME. Wish there was an Anime studio that focused on reviving the look of earlier 2000s shows would definitely watch every show they release. Visual novel / eroge anime adaptations also completely non existent in recent times which also explain the lack of good harem shows in the recent years. Mostly only Light novels and Manga gets adapted into anime and a few games.
"Slice of life" and "Harem" was just the pre isekai, generic bullshit genre of choice and cash grabbing.
Whatever you might say about the shows themselves osts have never gone down in quality, every anime season there is at least 5 bangers. Also your comment just sounds like nostalgia tbh, and this is coming from someone who likes anime the most from the same time frame you said you like in your comment.
If you want to watch the old days of 2000-2014, I recommend Tactics (2004), Hell Girl (2005), Ayakashi Japanese Classic Horror (2006) and so on. But my highly recommended anime all the time is Mononoke (2007, not the princess mononoke), Natsume Yuujinchou and Fukigen Na Mononokean (the anime is highly inspired by Mononoke from the 2007's)
If you don't like Fukigen Na Mononokean, it's fine, I'm just telling you that the characters live in Kyoto where all yokais roam and birth in (the main protagonist Ashiya Hanae is close name similar to Ashiya Douman while Abeno Haruitsuki is Abe no Seimei)
I would say for most anime the digital computerized art will never hold a candle to hand drawn. Just look at DBZ compared to Super. It's world's apart, but anime like Jujitsu Kaisen/ My Hero are immaculate.
A lot of people don't get that one point you made. When its more convenient to legally buy something its pirated way less. When steam used to do great summer sales thats where I got 90% of the games I own today. A lot of publishers would do 80-90% off their entire catalogue and id scoop it all up. Now I buy games a lot less because those sales are gone, but the service is still there and thats what really makes it convenient is all my games are in one place and even on a new pc im like 2 clicks away from having all my games installed again. So I still don't really pirate any games, i just wait for a good sale. The only time i will pirate a game currently is when i'm pretty sure i want to buy it in the future and I want to see if its worth my money. Because a lot of devs these days will take like 120$ from you or more up front and then deliver a product that clearly isn't even worth 5$.
But why would I use a video streaming service thats only going to have 1/20th of the stuff i like on it. I won't. Pirate pirate pirate, oh look now i have 100% of the stuff i like for free. if spending 200$ a month to have 10 different streaming services is less practical then just going and downloading the stuff for free... then i'm just gonna go get it for free. But back when netflix had everything and it was like 8$ a month, then why bother pirating, netflix will do all the work for 8$ a month, pirating is just a waste of time then.
See I totally see your point on all of this. Content creators like Netflix and Fox, etc. collectively shot themselves in the foot when they decided they all wanted to have a streaming platform of their own instead of just letting Netflix and Hulu take a cut. Plenty of people stopped pirating when they could get everything between a couple of streaming services. But now everyone and their brother has their own service and they pull their flagship series off of other services to force people into paying for their stuff and consumers are sick of it. When it was like $8 for Hulu and $8 for Netflix there was no point in pirating.
But now it's like You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. You want this show? $15 for this service. So fuck the media companies, they deserve to lose money for trying to fuck people. I don't pirate anything personally but if the media companies are whining about losing money to pirating then they did it to themselves by making it unreasonably expensive to have access to the full spectrum of entertainment
True. A friend of mine used to pirate music but after Spotify became popular with its subscription, it was just worth to get spotify for him and not pirate music anymore. Especially when you're a working adult and can afford small monthly payments of stuff. Broke teens pirate stuff but I think it's okay because they wouldn't have been able to buy it the first place.
I have no problem buying seasons of shows I watch on Itunes Store. But when the show can’t be bought, and it’s not on any streaming service I have? It’s just more simple to pirate it. I mean what am I gonna do? Subscribe to another streaming platform then cancel after a month? Get a fucking dvd? Nah
that last sentence in that first paragraph, i know youre talking about fighting games lmfaooooo.
@@AngrySmasher What are you talking about? As far as I know Netflix came first, aside from youtube of course.
I remember the good old days talking to my friends on school lunch breaks, about what we thought of the new episodes and our predictions for the coming ones, the hype was real
Exactly. Those were halcyon days for sure. Even in jhs and shs where we had the internet, there was buzz and discussion on a ton of forums. I miss those simpler times.
Reading the new chapters for the Marineford arc in One Piece with my high-school friends in the school library as it was released hit different.
Back in my day we would do that despite the “new episodes” being years old in Japan.
did manga readers not exist back in the day ?
they spoil all the shit now a days.
@@shouryaaswal5681 everyone would read manga specifically because it was farther ahead than the anime. Also it was harder to find subs of anime than fantrans of manga.
I want to know why in my region (Greece) Netflix has available the first 3 seasons of Jojo (up to the final defeat of DIO) and then jumps straight into Season 6, completely skipping Josuke and Giorno. I honestly cannot understand it.
This was fantastic. I always love deep dives into the industry.
the jojo case is really sad, the dub actor for Jolyne came out and said she and some others had to record from their homes in makeshift audio rooms due to rushed deadlines
>dubtrash
Oh bu fucking hu.
Actually remote recording has always been a thing for voice actors; since so many VAs can’t afford to move to LA or Texas (the two main work hubs), they have to rely on remote work, using their own (usually professionally engineered) home studios. This used to be primarily indie work, but recently due to COVID major shows like stone ocean switched to remote. That’s why English casts seemingly got WAY more diverse out of nowhere for a period of time. The VAs recording from their home studios was probably just due to the show being recorded in the middle of COVID times, rather than a rushed deadline
Great Pretender was such a great series
It's a shame we probably won't see the continuation of the series
The style , the animation the color palette and the music, all of them brought the story to life
Story was a clusterfuck though, especially the last arc. Totally ruined it for me when all the characters just came back from the dead.
I liked it a lot, but the end destroyed it.
@@dickurkel6910 it would have been fine if we got a season 2. But when things end on a cliffhanger like this and nothing will come after. Might as well compare it to No Game No Life.
The Things Mothers-Basement calls Elefants,
while not even yet mentioning In-est and Fanservice and L0lis,
are also an Issue.
The last arc was horrible
Imo, the industry simply needs the animators to stop tolerating their working conditions. If there were mandatory standards, like not overworking and underpaying, even anime that cuts corners would come out better, just at a slightly slower pace. Really, this is a labor culture problem. The more animators that go independent from studios and build a career of their own, the better
it's not about the money, it's about bombarding the mind with throwaway information.
It's not in their interest to let you have an attention span long enough that it leaves you engaged for months or years
why you might accidentally start thinking instead of consuming
What drives me nuts about certain regions not releaseing anime movies in cinemas is how utterly stupid and irrational it sometimes is.
In my hometown sits one of the biggest cinemas in all of Europe (Cinecitta, Germany), Demon Slayer did play there... two times.
They played the single most successful anime movie of all time two times.
Mind you both were sold out in minutes.
So the Cinema decided to give the movie some more runs... two more to be precise. Over the course of 4 weeks. Both were sold out instantly again.
Meanwhile Marvels Black Widow, which was airing at the same time, got 6 viewings.... per day.... for 4 Months straight. Every single one of them being half empty.
Why do these damn Cinemas not want my Money?
I loved Mugen Train so much I watched it over 20 times, 3 times in different cinemas, and 20+ times through piracy. If they had just let me I would have gladly gone to the cinema all those times.
It's not that they don't want money, it's exactly because they want the money that ultimately makes them less money, they expected Black Widow to earn a LOT more money than Demon Slayer, that's why they aired it more.
Yeah it baffles me that anime movies get played like twice and it has to be on like Thursday and they still sell out except they never try to get more showings. I wanted to watch SAO ordinal scale and the progressive movie but they were never in theaters near me and it doesn’t help it’s usually for one week.
@@RGC_animation you underestimate anime...you go broke 🤬🤬.
😂😂
@@EggEnjoyer wait but why would theatres settle for a such a financially bad deal? Do they get sufficiently compensated by Disney for the money they're losing this way?
@@samuraijosh1595 I believe so. Or try could be like if you don't cooperate then we won't want to continue with other shows. Thereby they kinda have to, it gives them cs steady stream of income. Which is especially important nowadays, especially after Covid
I've also noticed lots of changes in anime now compared to the 2000's. or even a few years ago. Not just in style and visual quality which mostly got better,
but also story telling starts to feel different. Where back in the day a season was 24 episodes now many are 12. It feels like back then more anime had an ending compared to now. It also feels as if many had better pacing. Except for maybe Dragonball Z frieza Saga. Now anime feels way more rushed then when i first started watching it. So there are these days when Its nice to rewatch old shows.
That is also the thing
You see the first marks on DBZ super, you can see it in 7 deadly sins, and other new series:
Quality is droping.
Work is being rush.
Soon copy pasta mania would begin.
sao, naruto, Mha, etc.
Anything soft shonen not very grotesk would be copied and comercialize to the bone.
We saw in tv, now we just internet in place of cable and satelite.
Don't forget the "manga advertizing" anime like Deadmen Wonderland, which never got more seasons.
So the good old masterpieces will stand out even more . Cool
I honestly find the animation style from 2008-2018 was the best, I'm not really into the style after that. They (the animation/characters/expressions) seem so bland and flat. Of course there are still some amazing and unique style, but I just feel most of them now feel lifeless and plain compared to the old style
Just my opinion though
@@ericquiabazza2608 you're worried about the wrong things. The reason it happened on cable and satellite to begin with is because of the nature of channels. You had to be platformed by a company just to have a show on air, whereas now any freelance team can platform themselves on CZcams or any of the social platforms that have video features. Basically, it's not going to happen. The market will react to products it doesn't appreciate how it *always* does, it will *reject* them.
This is an INSANELY well put together video. I'm in awe.
I think it's great that more people get to experience anime but the quality of new shows has dropped significantly because the focus now is just to make something that appeals to as many people as possible, not actually good shows
like that dress up title thingy anime? It really hits the nail in the head imo
@@zaidanhakim4974 It was eye
candy at most there wasn't a plot and the main focus was to display views that are appealing over the entire point which was obvious.
quality hasnt dropped, is two effects going on, for once there are just exponentially more shows being produced and since now we can see every single anime that is released instantly instead of having to wait and only getting a curated list of the best and most popular animes released because those are the ones that get picked for translation and dubbing, there are plenty of shitty old animes but those are obviously forgotten because they where bad while the clasics stood out and get remember fondly, but there are still plenty of high quality productions and stories
@@carso1500 there are hidden gems and then there are the actual anime that are budget boosted that dont do anything special.
Now you got some anime that dont do anything special and they are poor budgeted.
Boomer comment. We have insane animation nowadays: Demon Slyer, Jujutsu Kaisen, Violet Evergarden etc. And if you talk about story and writing Quality: We have Vinland Saga, Beastars, upcoming Chainsawman, Dorohedoro.
I mean of course not everything is on the same level of quality as Evangelion etc is. But that was the same back then.
Only bad stuff in anime rn is the Netflix season drop and Crunchyroll taking the L, so we have to resort to piracy once again.
The Great Pretender was fantastic. It's really a shame that it didn't get the hype it deserved.
The ending was a little over the top though...
I found it both tedious and unlikeable
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 no one asked
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 Are you sure you weren't looking in the mirror?
It was fantastic... Until the last arc
Plotwists for the sake of shock ended up hindering the final arc of the show
There's just one problem. Shows haven't actually been going up in quality. The quality of most shows have tanked. I used to have to decide which shows I'd watch as they came out, and which to hold back to watch later cause I didn't have enough time to watch them all (dispite having way more free time than I do now), but for about the last 7 or so years, I've often only had 2 or 3 worthwhile shows to watch each season, and the last 4 years I've actually only had 3 or so A YEAR.
Shows these days are largely empty, hollow trend chasers that not only don't offer anything new to the genre, but are a step back with flatter characters, simpler and more stereotypical storylines, and a blandly universal moe artstyle.
Anime has largely lost its heart and is in the process of very rapidly losing its soul.
Yeah, people take drawings getting prettier as more quality, when in fact a lot of old animes are still miles ahead in overall quality than recent ones.
I agree but I also disagree. In terms of numbers, I think you’re right. But I’m terms of anime largely losing its heart? I feel like every season we get one or two anime with incredibly depth. I’m not an expert. But I find my self tearfully engaged in a new anime every season.
In my opinion the market gets flooded with Anime, i.e. the amount of new Anime per year increases, but the amount of good shows per year remains the same, which makes it more difficult to find them among all of that soulless mainstream cashgrab stuff.
@@ramontavaresdacruz2256
I disagree, having more moe style in anime feels prettier to me and less gay compared to the experimental ones in 90s
it feels... relaxing and soothing, knowing moe is kind of the standard now
You hit the nail on the head, I feel the same. Been watching anime since the 90's when I was a child. The problem for me is the lack of manly, adult content: seinens. Now we just get medieval fantasy isekais (.hack was the first in the early 00's so old old reused trope), or trash like nagatoro. Only hype I have is record of ragnarok: old tournament arc style but good execution.
33:53 This statement is HIGHLT debatable. The streaming wars are a good example of this. We are entering an age of streaming oversaturation, and sure enough that bubble will eventually burst and it will NOT be pretty...
Things going mainstream always leads to those same things being ruined. Every single time.
13:48 not necessarily. The more mainsteam something becomes the more it may be forced to adhere to mainstream sinsibilities and expectations killing what made it unique in the first place.
True.
When something gets big enough, you'll get people who don't care about it involved and only wish to milk it, which almost always means it will turn to crap (look at Star Wars, for example).
yup
@@Lucitaur exactly.
It's less that it's forced to adhere to mainstream sensibilities, and more that it's forced to adhere to *perceived* general appeal. That is, executives who are in charge of marketing the product *think* that attempting to please everyone will always yield the largest audience, and watering down unique aspects that are deemed "too risky" for general interest is often how they achieve that goal. The fault here lies not with the consumers, but with marketers who are only concerned about making as much money as possible.
For example: If a kids' show attempts to approach dark topics in a delicate manner as a part of its niche, a marketing specialist may approach the creative directors and say "this show is too dark, you're going to scare away too many parents, get rid of it." And the directors will have no choice but to concede and water down the message of their show. Thus, the quality decreases as the general appeal as perceived by the company increases.
TL;DR: They do not care about the creative integrity, only how much money it makes. And more customers = more money, so they aim to get as many customers as possible. To get more customers they think eliminating risky choices in direction and including common tropes will appeal to more people. This obsession with appeal to everybody leads to homogenization, which harms fans of niche material.
The sad part is that it technically works. Generalized shows do gain more profits. The harm in them is simply not economically quantifiable because it is invisible, and the profession of economics doesn't really account for culture or external influences and assumes a vacuum, which is obviously going to lead to things like this happening.
I mean it’s the same thing with comic books, I still think the superhero film industry is what killing the comic book industry.
I would love to be able to watch anime without pirating, but region lock has always been a problem for me. I used to love using crunchy roll until the anime adaptation for Magia Record got released and it was region locked. Same with Madoka Magica. It was the last straw.
And now I’ve stuck to pirating. I still use Netflix for shows like JoJo but since part 4 and 5 aren’t available, I also pirate them
Wait, part 4 and 5 aren't available in Netflix?
@@CoolManCoolMan123 Well, in Romania, they aren’t. I don’t know about other countries
I feel this. I live in Australia, whenever I want to watch an anime that's more than about 6 years old, the only streaming services that have will only stream it to the US. And pirating is getting harder harder, what with the current crackdown.
@@its_venezianotvenice it really sucks when the price is almost the same but the catalog is 5x smaller...
I mean mfs didnt even bother to add jojo part 4 and 5 💀
Torrenting/fsonline ftw
I loved Crunchyroll until they started locking all new releases behind premium even months after release. Now I can't watch any shows people are talking about without pirating, which I went back to.
I tbh used to love the batch of episodes of Jojo (I just have no patience) because I thought after 13 weeks we would get the next batch as if it was weekly so people could choose watch it in a cupple of days or weekly as usual
However, here we are, after a year and we still didn't get a second batch, and yes there are few days away but all this waiting wasn't worth it
The same goes to attack on titan, like, dude don't split the FINAL SEASON in parts...
just came out yesterday havent watched yet
This was a really well made video, very much enjoyed! Thank you. It's wild what streaming has done to media.
How many times are we going to attempt a Death Note live action until we realize that since the inception of live actions, not a single one has been successful. I really dont get why Netflix is trying to push live actions so hard.
Kenshin wasn't terrible. Neither was Great Teacher Onizuka. The problem is that the people developing the live action actually need to like and respect the source material lol.
To be fair there is a good live action death note series, but it's an old japanese one
You're not the target audience. I don't watch the live actions either. But thats because I grew up as a kid around cartoons, and then anime. I have no issues with watching the animated versions, and that leads to certain standards of storytelling that a live action isn't able to meet. The live actions are for people who refuse to watch anime because "its just for kids". You don't have to like it, it's not meant for you. The fact that they keep doing it means they're finding the audience they were looking for and revenue they wanted.
@@somebodyintheworld5036 well I have to disagree with that. Time and time again they've put out adaptations that typically satisfy exactly nobody. Not the people that watch the source material and not this fictional wider audience that they've been trying to capture for years.
If they had managed to find this audience they're looking for, then they wouldn't have flops like cowboy bebop.
It's greed. Pure and simple. They don't understand what made it good in the first place, so they've created an imitation that neither encapsulates the spirit of the original nor truly creates something unique since at its essence is still a copy.
They'd have been better served just creating their own IP, but I get the impression that they don't have the creative ability to craft their own background lore. Which is why they try to rob other's stories and then bastardize them for their own self satisfaction. Pure talentless hacks.
@@somebodyintheworld5036 You say that, and I'm sure it's pretty much true, but what is the point of making a live action for an existing IP if not to make use of the already existing fan base to bring in viewers? You could say "well it's easy to just pump out since the story is already made, so you wouldn't have to write much" but I'd counter with the fact that none of these live actions succeed in large part because these directors completely make their own story and wing it the entire time. If they didn't bring in some money, yeah I'm sure they wouldn't make them. But what exactly IS the target audience? People that think anime is for kids? I can't help but feel like a change in medium wouldn't entice those people much, cause most live actions are from some of the biggest names in anime that you pretty much can't not know about if you exist in the same hemisphere as live action adaptations. And to be honest who would watch them? These shows immediately get reviewed into the dirt by the existing fan base (the people live actions draw in because the community already exists remember?), and most people don't make a habit of watching 2/10 or 1/5 rated shows where all the reviews talk about terrible writing, often times poor acting, and bad effects.
SHEESH finished typing this on my phone and realized it looks like an absolute essay
The sad part of the salary thing is how the precedent for such low salaries is due to the creator of astro boy wanting to get the anime on air despite so many companies only seeing it as a risk so he had to take a lower initial cut and make it back on merchandise. Companies are still following this and pushing the payment of these animators onto the consumers like the history of tipping in America.
lol "tipping".
Many people in the world are far underpaid. Yet they do one hundred times the work of higher paid people in one work day. I don't understand the specific sympathy for people in entertainment compared to more critical humans needs like a minimum wage grocery store clerk who is just as important. However the executives and investors of the grocery store and Netflix are awful people who do take advantage of the workers using the power of submission and Gov fiat currency.
You shouldn't be shocked that animators and all that aren't paid well. The only way to make money in this world is to be a dishonest scumbag who lies, cheats, and steals from the poor like politicians.
There's also the fact animation studio workers living in climate control are far better off than whoever is is in a CCP work prison making your shoes. I heard Indians working in an Apple factory went on strike because they get paid about $7 US dollars per month. Most people are vastly underpaid globally. But the taxman is well fed know what I mean? Want animation workers to get paid more? Advocate for elimination of political thrones and taxation of productive working folks.
@@tokiwartooth4404 that Indian worker story sounds bull. 7$ converts to 490 Indian rupees. Many lower -tier jobs in India pay much more than that.
@@tokiwartooth4404 I think the specific sympathy is generated cuz people idolize their fav celebs in the entertainment industry, be it animators and VA in anime industry or actors in Hollywood.
@@tokiwartooth4404 What are you on about? No, I'm not shocked about how low animators are making nor am I surprised or ignorant of the upper class abusing their wealth and power as well as how much of an asshole they are. I made a specific comment in relation to a specific video about japanese animators being underpaid. That does not mean I think everyone else should be underpaid. I agree with you that the minimum wage workers need to be paid more. I do think that these Indian workers should get more and support them striking. Yea, I want to get rid of the oligarchical government we have cause it's not working for the people.
You're making it sound like people can or only support one very specific issue and that supporting one issue means you don't want the other. I support for more mental health and abuse victim resources for men, but that doesn't mean that I don't support women. Should I not advocate for Americans (where I reside) getting paid more when there are child workers in other countries getting paid $1 a month. No, that's not how that works.
your explanation of binge-watching problem is just so right. I'm glad people are talking about it
the worst part for companies with the streaming wars is that by all of them having their own desirable shows and movies, they're inadvertently encouraging password-sharing. Not many people want to pay $50 or more in separate monthly fees to have access to all the films they want to watch, so instead a group of people will come to an agreement that they'll share accounts between them as a show/movie pool for a lower cost per person. My extended family has access to like four different services because each house purchases one subscription. i'd hate to see this happen with anime studios where they create their own services for all the shows they produce instead of selling to Crunchyroll to cut out the middleman, ultimately discouraging the making of new content because of password sharing. Granted, this isn't entirely the fault of the companies/studios but with the sheer volume of companies wanting to get in on it, they accidentally created an environment where password sharing is more economical.
I think it also depends strongly on what the shows were made for. Some shows you can binge watch and it’s not jarring because the shows were made that way. Most anime is made to be episodic in nature mirroring the style of weekly manga releases. But there are also unique shows that can succeed like arcane which was clearly made to be devoured in 3 episode chunks and was released that way
Yeah, but that is only because Arcane is an original story most anime aren`t.
I never watched show that wasn't complete (except one season of GoT) and I have no idea what are you talking about.
I get that some people prefer weekly airing but what does it mean that they were made for?
This is so true. I can watch like 2 episodes of ANY slice of life and I just get sick, no matter how good the show is. But then I easily sit through 20 episodes of One Piece straight and still feel like watching more.
@@drayke8886 I'm not sure what OP meant but, it be the type of show where the structure of every episode is that there's an enemy that the main character has to fight. A monster of the week format, if you will. If you watch it once a week it will be fine because you get to think "That was a fun episode, there was a cool fight in it". But if you watch it all at once it starts to feel very repetitive and you just don't feel like watching more.
I think what that means is that shows that YOU like , are worth dumping in loads, shows that you feel are a bit of a drag to watch, should be weekly.
hopefully with Ken Akamatsu getting into politics, as a famous mangaka who's also had several anime of his works, he knows the hardship of both manga and anime(to an extent since i highly doubt he drew at all for the anime), while i'm doubtful too much will get done by him by himself but he can maybe open up the conversation up to maybe get something in the future.
I think one thing people want to see is animators getting more money.
The other thing I do agree on is avability though that is a bigger issue to streaming in general.
One issue is the sheer amount of anime and the how often it is very similar to many others. This trend is actualy worse a chunk of them stem from light novels which I believe to be the biggest offenders, though not the only one.
One issue a lot of people have as well is the fear that a country will start pushing its "values" onto the animators despite the fact
Let's not forget how they screwed up Komi Can't Communicate by not adding subtitles to whatever Komi was writing or whenever a white box giving us context appear, which is about like *70%* of the show
That thing about being unable to legally see the movies while everyone else moves ahead really hits home as that sort of thing is usually limited to certain "big" markets such as Japan, UK & US, which means those in more geographically "remote" areas like us in The Baltics completely miss these releases.
There is always pirating
@@DidntExpect It's a necessary evil here :/
@@DidntExpect the issue with pirating anime movies is that you have to wait over a year+ to even pirate them. JJK0 STILL isnt online but it was in theatres in the US like 6 months ago. you have to wait for the bluray release to even watch them for any remote areas.
@@newp0rt I remember searching all over the internet for the second MHA movie and finding nothing. I had to wait months for a shitty quality video of someone filming it on their phone.
I was so happy when I found out that the JJK movie was on the cinemas in Portugal because I didn't have to wait for months to finally see it.
@@newp0rt what do you mean, it is available online
I'm surprised to hear you say anime is "starting" to go mainstream. I feel like it's been mainstream for a long time, at least 15 years. The problems you outline here are just more of the same problems I've seen in anime going back years; just greed affecting what goes into an anime.
It’s been kind of main stream since Toonami. It’s been REALLY mainstream since AOT.
I actually think anime is more mainstream in the US and the West. Yes, it has more pop culture presence in Japan, but it's nothing extraordinary for them. Plenty of people just don't pay mind to it.
In the West, it has more novelty since it's foreign, which makes it get extra hype that Japanese people just wouldn't care about.
greed isn't the only problem, people are the big problem, greed exploits and benefits on what people want and desire, only a small minority consumes art in a consciencious manner
Anime has definitely been mainstream for 15 years now but it has just become "cool" to watch. I remember getting teased and getting weird responses from people as a kid (up till 13) for watching anime and reading manga.
Edit: For reference I am in my mid twenties currently. Fully remember getting teased (it wasn't bad for me because I can draw and could talk to just about anyone) and others getting bullied and being seen as an outcast.
@@ShanyShannon Idk, even 15 years ago you were cool if you were into Death Note and Avatar: The Last Airbender. And going back to the early 00s, we had Teen Titans, Megas XLR, and other cartoons with anime-inspired aesthetic that were pretty popular. All the nerd stuff was mainstream and "cool" by the late 00s. Superhero movies, video games, the fantasy genre, anime.
I just jumped back into looking at anime after about a 2 year break, and yeah... thanks for insights into industry trends.
Hopefully the Anime industry doesn't become hot garbage like the predatory mobile game industry, in which the games are intentionally designed to be "just fun enough" to keep people whaling, rather than being the best possible experience for the player.
Thanks for the insights!
Great video bro. I dig your style and common sense approach.
Many thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it! 👍
To be fair one piece has had non cannon movie stories that featured cannon characters. A good example being Golden Lion Shiki who is a cannon character with ties to several important factions and events, but so far has not appeared in person in the manga.
Also the final island being named Laugh Tale, not Raftel, and that Roger was "too soon" in finding the One Piece was introduced in Stampede before it was shown in the manga.
Aojiki was revealed to have lost a leg in Film Z
Yes, that’s why I don’t think Red should be compared to these other movies, it’s still « extra » content with simply certain canon details that are there to motivate people to watch the movie but that aren’t major enough that it would feel like anyone not watching them would lose something
Just a bit of information for you. SAO progressive is actually a retelling of Aincrad not a fill in the blanks. the author basically wrote SAO Progressive to help fill in some plot holes and make the Aincrad arc work a lot better. One of the big changes being that Asuna and Kirito don't split up after the Illfang fight. So yeah its not just a "what happened during the time skips" style of thing. Its an entire retelling of the arc to make things make sense.
Have been only an occasional anime watcher, and do not see it as often as some 10 years ago, but but have watched the video with huge interest thanks to youtube recommendation. Very interesting analysis an observations on the logic and dynamics of the industry! Also was surprised to learn you are from Latvia. :)
Great video man👌
With the rise of streaming and content diversity plus availability, people just have so much content to find around in general. Yes, old anime shows are still gold but the amount of content makes people have very little attention span. In summary, unless they're an avid fan, you won't find new people flocking to your creation unless you grab their attention throughout the entire series. That's why anime, or rather, content in general becomes shorter and shorter to also make people think it's worth their time.
@@hideokojima7167 what do you mean? Facebook/TikTok/CZcams, movies, livestreams/vtubers, manga/comics/Manhwa, tv shows, novels, games, music, sports/esports, etc. Any of these take away one's time to watch Anime and you can find them everywhere nowadays.
The fact that Steel Ball Run can easily have its hyped ruined makes me want to cry.
Akira, Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scrolls and Ghost of the Shell were smash hits here and had some of the best animation for their time. We need that kind of quality back in the theaters
This is by far one of the best videos youve done but you consistently put out amazing content. Thank youm
I appreciated the decisions of Ufotable and Mappa when it comes to the movies they made and how they released them. Since the Mugen Train movie was canon material from right after the first season, they released the content again as the first half of season 2. Meanwhile Mappa chose the "prequel" arc of Jujutsu Kaisen to make a movie out of. I hope that the Haikyuu movies are treated similarly to the Mugen Train movie
First half of season 2 Demon Slayer.
Demon Slayer: Mugen Train.
Wasnt it confirmed that the Haikyuu movies are infect going to be the last arc's of the manga from where they left off of in the anime? People were really unhappy about it though cause for two movies they are going to cover many chapters. My thought is that in between movies there's going to be OVA's or something.
@Ape2020 xxx ok but where tho
If I learned ANYTHING from what happened to video games, going mainstream is not a good thing for anime. it just means we lose cool unique projects and everything becomes 'for everyone'.
This is why Gatekeeping is need thing despite people not liking it.
@@thesilentsociety3252 I agree with this though I dislike gate keeping in general
@@thesilentsociety3252 gatekeeping is never needed. Video games have been mainstream since before the OP was born. I don't know what he's talking about.
@@thesilentsociety3252 i agree 💯
@@whosaidthat84 gaming wasn't mainstream before I was born and I agree with the other guy. Mainstream means everything gets dull as they appeal to everyone and forbid concepts that might upset the majority. Hyper gore is something that was bred out of gaming. Off colour humour was moved on etc. Anime will end up in the same spot when mainstream "fans" start tagging everything as problematic.
Too true, The problem is I doubt any big corporations are going to listen to this.
Good video, very informative take about the growing issues in the quickly expanding Anime Industry.
To be fair, the SAO anime blitzed through the Aincrad arc because the light novels did that, too. It was a faithful adaptation, the source had the same problems as the anime either way.
@@AchillesofOblivion ok
Most people seem to forget this fact, as bashing on SAO is fun.
@@stenlohmus7766 bashing on sao isnt fun, bashing on sao is expected if you arent cognitively stunted and have any self respect
@@teratoma. based lmao
If SAO was just 1 arc, being the Aincrad Arc, I feel like it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it does. Progressive looks to be a massive improvement over the original, though I stopped reading the LNs after the second book.
Anime being in the theaters isn't something new, this has been a thing for my entire life ever since the 90s. I remember watching anime at the theater relatively regularly back then.
Good analysis bro
Back in 2014(India), I was the only otaku in my class. I wanted more and more people to watch anime. After just few years, the number of anime fans in my class increased exponentially. Now it is so mainstream that every 3rd or 4th person has an anime profile picture. Now I think the community was good when it was small!❤
I agree on the piracy point, but while Netflix and Disney buy IPs and basically hold them hostage, I will continue sailing the seven seas
Pff *not available*
Paying was never an option!
As person who just pirates all my anime, I so here for all these anime movies. Going to see an anime movie in theaters is a really fun event. And even if I miss them, I can just watch them online.
Yep
As a Kissanime + IDM veteran, being a pirate was my calling.
well some of us who don't pirate aren't here for it and find it annoying.
@@projekttaku1 How can you even afford to pay though? Ya know. With the insane rise of cost of living thanks to global tyranny and communism from the year 2020 and beyond? How much debt have you accrued?
@@kaelthunderhoof5619 but animekisa isn't running anymore....
Great video! These are the kInds of things on my mind.
Some criticisms:
- A lot of anime studios work in the red, I’ve heard from half to a quarter of them. So a lot of the money may be used to be paying debts and overhead costs.
- There is the whole production committee system, so the companies who are part of it pay money to fund the anime and get the revenue the anime makes, so if the animation studio that gets the bid doesn’t form part of it they can’t argue with the scheduling and while this protects the studio in case the anime flops, they also don’t reap rewards if the series is successful.
- It wasn’t Netflix but Mappa who had the issue with low costs for Yasuke.
- Movies are healthier schedule wise and besides the money from tickets, you can sell more goods or movie exclusive goods because well you know the hardcore fans are gonna go see the movie.
- Also all canon stuff and movies that you need to see have been pretty available along the series haven’t they?
For the Streaming problem someone suggested that the US change its law for copyright to ban Exclusive deals,
So a single company can't become a Monopoly and Newcomers who can do better service can Buy the Shows, so the competition will be more about who has the better service than who has the better shows,
I say US specifically because if they changed it the rest of the world will soon follow, kinda like Apple.
lol good idea!
The US Gov owns and operates Netflix and Disney though. They want to change anime to become Western wokism/feminism. The best suggestion is the entire dismantling of the US Gov and all other world Govs who steal from workers. Gov setting a great example of how to live. Steal to benefit thyself. Also the executives who make all the money but do zero actual work. They just know to play peoples' minds and force them into submission. Sorry I don't see that as a valuable skill in the economy.
I dunno I think an another chunk of Muricans will oppose this cuz "muh government is interfering in buzinnessss 🤬😡"
The problem with banning exclusivity is that you disincentivize platforms from funding and investing in new content. What's the point of, say, Amazon or Nexflix, dumping millions of dollars into projects if they're just going to wind up on their competition's platform? Moreover, you run into the problem of more established companies having significantly larger libraries due to their greater ability to purchase licenses.
This is a case where every potential solution has major drawbacks associated with it.
I sort of mention something like this in a comment of my own, referencing the law in the USA for Cinema from back in 1948. Where back then Film Studios would own the Theatres, and thus have the right to exclusively show movies within those theatres. Sound familiar? Its what we experienced in both streaming and in gaming platforms nowadays. So the theatres were then forced to compete not in listings but in exclusive features, like types of seating, concessions, drinks, pricing, and etc. After writing my own comment on it, I started thinking of a streaming service that also worked like door dash or uber eats where one can order food from somewhere to eat with their movie and get a discount on movie or shows, like the Uber points system, if they do it enough. lol... You can tell history is just repeating itself, but instead of merely on a national level, its world wide, which makes it harder to outlaw.
I love binging shows. I’m currently doing that with one piece. But you bring up a great point about community engagement. Talking about the newest episode with friends every week is part of the experience. Interesting to see how this will change in time. Maybe that’s why Disney still does weekly episodes, to create discussion and create community engagement.
Its so obvious that weekly is going to become the main release style for streaming in the future, just look at all the streaming services doing it like hbo max (I think), amazon prime, disney+
Netflix needs to change, its stuck in the past, which is ironic considering just a decade earlier it was the future, but its batch release style kills hype, and they've already started with arcane.
I think the weekly was mostly intended to keep people subscribed for more than the free trial but yeah it brings community hype when a binge doesn’t
I love binging shows too, I sometimes even wait until the entire series is complete before I watch it sometimes, cause I hate having to wait a whole week to see what happens next. but I can also 100% see where people are coming from with enjoying the weekly releases and are given more time to discuss each episode, therefore keeping people talking about the show for a lot longer.
@@projekttaku1 I think Arcane was a pretty good in-between. At least then it was being talked about for a month and had time to get more people into it. I wouldn't mind netflix anime doing maybe, two episodes weekly. Ideally, that would also give their animators less crunch.
Honestly same. Still waiting for One piece to end before even considering touching it.
Underrated channel. Hopefully you'll reach 1M some day man!
I HATE watching one episode a week. I much rather binge a show over a day or two. I can't possibly be the only one who feels this way, am I?
The thing is that the chapters *are* available and the streaming service isn't allowing you to see it, you can be free to watch it in batch at the end or at whatever time you have. Personally taste, they are just different experiences both personally and as a comunity.
This is also why I can't read ongoing manga. I just forget it exists lol
Same. Waiting a week for ongoing anime was annoying. Started watching older/finished shows and i find it much better to binge them. Also makes managing my time easier
I like that too but it kills hype fast. Just last month stanger things got released (probably the biggest tv show currently). Had its best season ever and within a month , no one is talking about it anymore. And mind you its netflix's biggest show.
this pump and dump way is not good for discussion. Although I prefer it that way
@@shouryaaswal5681 i second you.
And now Haikyuu with 2 movies to end the series. It breaks my heart.
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There needs to be a REORGANISATION of how anime works. MORE MONEY needs to return back to the studios and the workers. Japan also needs to start taking into account global viewership when deciding popularity and renewership but the industry is extremely insular. Problem is your average popular anime (not like AOT level) does not always get picked up by a major distributor and without a way to track the popularity and the money from people watching it via other ways there really is no way to know.
But having japanese TV popularity being the decider whether or not an anime gets green lit is not sustainable.
”start taking into account global viewership"
This is the fastest way to ruin anime as medium. I stopped watching western TV in favor of Japanese and Korean content because its so homogeneous. The next step is attempting to appeal to our sensibilities and ape our media for money.
The money situation is just irrational greed, publishers and media orgs take obscene margin and pay their workers next to nothing. They brag they can pay their camera and production staff peanuts to this day, sadly its why the Japanese live action film industry dropped off a cliff.
@@chinogambino9375 He doesn't mean appeal to the west. He means, just because an anime is not super popular in Japanese TV does not mean it isn't hugely popular in the West and bringing in massive amounts of cash from overseas.
Like the anime community over here is really big and growing.
@@Maddinhpws his point is by doing that they will begin to appeal to the west. Caring more about western viewership will lead to caring more about western values
Kubjhh he j but yet
Crunchyroll needs to stop dubbing literally everything in Texas.
Slight correction: at 8:40. The effective wait time is 9 months on both. The felt wait time is shorter on the weekly release.
Acessibility is always the issue because they've all forgotten the old shows and none is budging to give them an official release beyond idk Astroboy and such, lots of people love the feeling of treasure hunting, finding those obscure and niche shows and feel a little special for finding them. That's what's not being licensed, that's where none is putting their effort to find out who even owns the license.
Netflix has known this with all the shows they air, but it hasn't changed the model. They have made the initial chunk of money and seem to be fine with that and acquisition of whatever popular IP.
I remember a couple of years ago when I first started to watch anime with the intention and knowledge that it was from japan and not like watching naruto or dragonball on tv and thinking it was a normal western cartoon. I watched a couple shows and then asked a friend of mine recommendations one of which was SAO so I searched the web to look for a suitable stream and found out that it was on Netflix, so I turned netflix on aaaaand it wasnt there. I went back to google and found out it was on Netflix US and JP but not in my countries netflix. I also wasn't able to use other streaming services as I wasn't old enough to pay for them myself und my parents did not understand the need for more than netflix. I then found out about VPNs and found a free one, I used it or rather tried to but the stream was laggy. I did put it on my watchlist. After reaching out to the support I found out it wasn't planned on releasing in my country so I did what had to be done and went sailing. I pirated it, but there wasn't anything I could do. Now fast forward to 2018 and I fly the U.S. with some friends and right after landing and having an internet connection my first notification is "Sword Art Online is now available to watch". I laughed it off and ignored it until I was sick on one day and thought to myself lets have a look at the first episode again and then it just became even funnier, SAO was available in the U.S. with a dubbed version of my language. It was there completed with almost perfect sub and dub. So I did what had to be done and asked a friend who stayed home if it was available in our country, in hopes they for some reason just decided to publish it. But the answer was no, it still wasn't available in my country even though they had the subtitles and the dub ready. I don't really understand their marketing and publishing team.
Region lock is one of the dumbest and most absurd decisions ever made ever since streaming existed, it is hurting the fanbase, lowering revenue, and just encourages more people to pirate them, it doesn't benefit anyone.
to be fair - and play the devil's advocate, it usually isn't up to Netflix (or any of the streaming services, for that matter) to decide where they can and can't stream something. Most likely there's a legal way to get SAO in your country that got exclusive rights of streaming it there and Netflix can't have it on that region but can in others, hence why they have it here in the US. By having your native language as both dub/sub reinforces it even further, Netflix probably would stream this show in your country if they could, and they are probably just waiting for the opportunity to, but these exclusive rights to stream suck so much.
It's basically Sony paying a third party company to only have one of their games on Playstation for a year or two before the competition, it's anti consumer and absolutely atrocious for all the parties involved, but unfortunately money talks, and money talks loud.
good video, good progression. New yt channel i subscribed to.
I don't follow anime yt too much but this appeared in my recommended and decided to watch it. I assumed it was made by a big anime channel, surprised you only have 45.6k subs right now--and probably way less when you first published this video! Good job, keep it up!
You are right, you are too naive. Bigger commercialization will not inherently make working conditions better, lmao. Otherwise, no industry bigger than anime would have working conditions problems.
Change can only come from 3 directions, in (hard) descending order of importance: workers themselves, government regulations, and consumer demands. But never expect them from the corporations or other stakeholders themselves.
EDIT: I can see why more eyes involved can be positive, but it also detracts from positive change:
1) making chains to the top more byzantine (right now, I can imagine a regular illustrator being on a "having talked" basis to a director/CEO of a different studio). More opportunities for middle managment to do its "magic".
2) every worker is a smaller fish in the pond, so the "more eyes" effect is counter-weighed by the "more industry" effect.
Yeah I agree, he mentioned that more eyes can only be good, but then delved into exactly why more eyes can be bad. Bigger audiences give the executives a bigger bargaining chip compared to everyone else. It gives them no reason to better conditions since they are making record profits.
Furthermore, what many fail to realize is that as these companies target a bigger audience, their products will begin to lose what drew many of them there in the first place. I mean this in both the sense of watering it down to appeal to a larger audience, as well as removing content that is deemed a risk.
Here is another problem with these subscription services. They are in a lot of cases, removing the voices of those that actually watch these shows. Companies like Netflix and Sony through Crunchyroll/Funimation are trying to gain more and more control of the industry. If a person doesn't like it, they can't really do anything about it. Sure they can not watch the show, but if they are subscribed for another show, then they are signalling that it doesn't matter, the streaming service got their money. Even if they unsubscribe, there are many others who are still subscribed. It's a very insignificant message that is even more insignificant since it can only be done once unless the person resubscribes in which case they just canceled the other message.
These companies want as big of audiences as they can get, not only because it leads to a lot of profit, but also because it takes away the voice of those that watch the content. For every anime fan that is angry that some series was butchered in some way, there are thousands of others who don't really care, they aren't invested in the medium. Unfortunately for the industry, this kind of audience tends to be pretty fickle. Their lack of loyalty means they will likely leave just as quickly as they came. Worse are the lot that are not only fickle, but also loudly demand changes. They will tend to be the ones these companies listen to when making changes, and while the medium is dying they will not be around because they have already left to destroy the next thing.
Great Essay! Top tier quality as usual, loved the commentary you provided and the optimistic air you gave it (: Keep up the good work!
That’s so sad 🥺 I already had so much respect for anime creators but knowing how badly some of them are treated is absolutely heartbreaking
Workers not getting paid enough breaks my heart, I feel so guilty for even enjoying anime.
If Saul can have a weekly schedule then why not JoJo
Mate people part skip and binge
Those who like batch release claim you can still watch them weekly but the reverse is also true. If you like to binge, you can wait until all episodes come out.
Ironically enough me and a friend do this exact thing on both accounts.
The good news is that access to theatrical movies may improve for you if their popularity continues to increase. When I first started watching anime, theatrical releases in the US were limited to major cities where I wasn't and I still remember how amazing I thought it was that the local university that sometimes hosted second run screenings of foreign films they considered artsy happened to show Mononoke-Hime so I could actually see it on the big screen. Now anime movies are routinely run in regular multiplexes even out here in the suburbs. Distribution will eventually increase even in countries that are currently considered small markets if demand does.
I always saw the manga and anime services as the forerunners to the streaming services and I’ve been waiting on Netflix and the others catching up in utility and functionality. I really want tagging to get widely implemented, it would make my life so much easier.
I’ve been coming back to anime after a decade-long hiatus, thanks for outlining how the industry is operating these days. I do feel that piracy is the solution to a lot of the issues you cover - so here’s to piracy then, I guess
That's gotta be a trip. I got back to watching anime in 2020, and the only anime I'd watched before then was Robotech, which my dad showed me.
"Anime becoming mainstream is only a good thing."
I respectfully disagree. The bigger something becomes in media, the more Hollywood wants a piece of it. And I honestly don't think Hollywood or most mainstream western media giants really understand what makes Anime great. To be blunt, I think it will eventually kill the anime that most fans enjoy on a day-to-day basis. As anime becomes bigger, we need to become more vocal about what we dislike during the changing process to prevent different shows from losing their soul.
I'm not going to lie. It somewhat makes me miss when anime was "lame"
"great"? what do you mean by that? I remember most of the anime I watched in my teens were not so good, only a few were "worth the time"
Anything that becomes mainstream will become sanitized and censored.
No exceptions.
@@tiagosales100 In context, "great" could be referring to the distinct cultural spirit that defines anime more than any concrete metric of quality.
Japan is an insulated, homogenous country. Anime reflects this, and people seek escapism into this type of fantasy. Anime is great when it is simultaneously naive & wise, surreal & grounded, serious & comedic, etc.
It stands out because it exists in a bubble.
Large entities that don't understand this could easily pop it and destroy the unique perspective. They only see it from one angle, when it takes being in the center to know.
Well if that ever happens we can all go back to watch and read everything we haven't and truly enjoy some hidden gems maybe. Only IF it ever got that bad though which I pray it doesn't
Nah, gatekeeping is a necessity. It's exactly how we keep assholes that want to change the medium away. This wasn't done with gaming, and now look where we are. The industry is shit.
This is why I'm really appreciative with channels like museasia here on CZcams
What I don't like about crunchy roll is its regional lock and monthly subscription. I hope they could open a shop where I could buy boxed DVD with English subs at a reasonable price