Putin made a 'huge mistake' with Ukraine and faces 'more problems' as war goes on | Ex-MI6 boss
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- “Russia is in serious post-imperial decline.”
Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a “huge mistake” says former head of MI6 Sir Richard Dearlove, “and the longer it goes on, I think the more problems the Russian leadership will face.”
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You can be as pragmatic as you like but if Russia walks away from this with ANY Ukrainian land then they will consider it a win and they'll be back again in years to come.
They're decimated, isolated, and the demography says they're losing work force at an intolerable rate. Crowing that they won anything, will sound hollow to all that hear it, when the costs are totaled
@Ozone280 And so they should a well fought win.
100% correct. They must withdraw with nothing. (That said, they have already lost way more than any win in Ukraine could deliver).
they might consider it a win then then go into revolution later hahah. I dont think that is a win.
@@ghostlightx9005 The Russian citizens won't realise this for a while yet though. The permanent damage Putin has done to the Russian economy, not to mention their political standing in the World and their overall demography will become increasingly apparent over the next few years.
The problem is that the West's support for Ukraine is REACTIVE rather than proactive.
I agree
If you mean a NATO military buildup on the Polish border before the invasion, yes deterrence would have worked, but that ship has sailed.Even worse was that fact that we let Russia slip into its current political state. Watch Nixon's 1992 interview where he talks about Russia. Amazing stuff.
Currently, Russia is getting bled out. Push Russia out of Crimea and you push Russia to the brink. No thanks. I don't want a Russian nuclear war or a Russian civil war.
As it's a reaction to Russia's unprovoked attack, what else could it be?
My God, you guys are ignorant. Russia WAS provoked.
Ukraine armies were trained and equipped by the US. The US is using Ukraine to cause economic hardship for Russia. As long as Ukraine keeps fighting, the Russians keep spending money and Russian soldiers are dying.
Economic sanctions against Russia did not work.
Blowing up the gas pipeline to Germany did not work.
Lol, Russia is being reactive. They were building a freaking US navy base in Crimea before 2014 FFS.
What a statement, he is absolutely right in my humble opinion. I am from Belgium and willing to make sacrifices, already send over 6000 € from my holiday money to Ukraine over the last years to help, no holiday for me until victory. I also pushed my prime minister several times to do more. I have the feeling that our gouverments dont understand the gravity of the situation. We need someone like Churchill right now that makes tough decisions, it will cost us less in the long run if Ukraine cant hold the line any longer.
У вас проблемы с головой. 🇷🇺
If Ukraine can get Russia seriously on the back foot. Why not go all the way and liberate all Ukrainian territories back to ‘91 borders?
"If" - we are nowhere that now.. 08:43
Russia still have massive resources & men to throw /waste in the war, even at such high economic costs. Ukraine can never 'win' outright without a much more aid from Europe & US.
Ukraine's best chance of fully recovering all territory is if Putin's regime collapses, which can happen if we continue increasing the cost to Russia. Russia is in a cycle of perpetual escalation. That has worked well against a weak west over the past 10 years but as the west matches the escalation, Russia is now weakening itself economically politically and strategically.
tha tis a clever man...
Ukraine will. They just need our continued support. They have the willpower and by now the experience. We just need to continue to support them.
😂😂😂😂😂.Ukrajina odbija Ruse???😂😂😂😂.Provala godine!Rusi se ne bore samo protiv Ukrajine !Bore se protiv nato saveza i Amerike!!!I pobjeđuju!!!
Ukraine needs to bring down The Crimean Bridge soon and also block Orban at the EU now...
No it is a good negotiation ploy! It ties down a large amount of strong air and navel difference! It was what is called 'A golden bridge' in the book The art of war, by Sun Tuz it allows your enamy to with draw with out increasing more cost on your own forces! Plus it is now limited it the amount of transport it can carry.
@@JimRogers-oc2jd Maybe, but taking the bridge down would be a massive political blow for Putin. It is really the symbol for Russia's claim to Crimea. Dictators become increasingly vulnerable domestically as the illusion of infallible leadership is increasingly dispelled.
Well theyve put it out of operation twice for months.
how should Ukraine block Hungary when they're not in EU ? that makes no sense
@@Hoozpoppin Days actually, quickly repaired and Putin drove across it to prove it!
Timothy Snyder: “The peril of slowness “ there is so much truth in it! Give Ukraine free reign and they will win this war!
Not to mention we in Russia do not have toilet. Nor pipes for the conveyance of feces. This would be a niceness if we had such!
Yes well Timothy is a well known apologist for Zelensky s corrupt regime.
@@petersmith-yg7me Zelensky was a comedian, and he's turned Russia into the biggest joke on the planet
@@petersmith-yg7me Hello Vlad!
@@dpelpalyou don't have a moral compass.
Massive mistake….military academies around the world will study this invasion for years to come on what not to do.
well... at the time, NOBODY thought Ukraine would last more than a few weeks, then Europe and the US wouldn't have attacked Russia in Ukraine once they'd taken the country. The military invasion wasn't done very effectively, but then nobody really thought there'd be so much resistance. They did it in Crimean and it worked.
Do you mean NATo agression in Serbia with humanitarian Bombardment of civilians? or Lybia., Iraq, Afganistan? Russia is winning so read world wide news and not western propaganda.
It wasn't just a mistake on the military level. This will be Russia's last big war, because they simply lack the younbg people to rebuild the military. Russia had already been on a long demographic decline, and this war has only accelerated it.
Ukraine isn't in any better shape though, due to their losses in life
@@glennjanot8128 so I am afraid that they will join more with China and supplement that with their Asian population. Not good prospects for Europe. in the end
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq The invasion of Crimea was much easier to pull off as it already had a significant Russian military presence and population.
A quote from Kipling-"They used to call it the Danegeld, but the story is always the same. One you've given the Dane his geld, you'll never get rid of the Dane." The same is true of giving anything to Putin.
you can keep quoting wahtever you want)) Russia took massive territories and you can bark and quote only)))
Your video director/editor needs to put the camera on the person who is speaking, not the person who is just sitting there being distracted -- Jeez!
You need to calm down
The little man wanted by the ICC for war crimes is an epic international bungler.
I am Russian, live Samara. We call him bunker grandfather. Many inside Russia are trying to help Ukraine..We give coordinates to special men, coordinates of special things😏
@@dpelpal 👍👍
This is why you don't give small corrupt kgb agents control of an empire.
@@noname-ll2vk You can make this war effort sound not dissimilar to the work of the NHS by calling it another fight to eradicate a noxious little bug.
he is so little that he does whatr he wants and you can only bark LOL 😀
Wish you would discuss ElVira Nabiullina , head of Russia Central bank, Jeffrey's Sonenfeld's Insightful data Mining of everything that comes out of the Kremlin regarding GDP growth, inflation, interest rates, strength of the ruble, strength of the military, true decline of Russian imports/ exports, many other things.
Long ago they gave an accurate picture Leading to a sure demise of the country called Russia.
It seems you are late to the party. NOW you talk about it. You could have talked about it in February '24. So much of Times interviews seem to be "glass -half- empty " Editorials why Ukraine can't win.
Which is surprising as Britain is the leader in ensuring that Ukraine does win and does defeat Russia's Putin
Jeffrey Sonnenfeld should be taken very seriously. His analysis shows how sanctions are affecting Russias economy
It history repeating it self.
WW2 won by US and GB . The Wehrmacht was defeated on the Eastern front. Who re you kidding.
The wehrmacht and the axis powers are not the same. Germany accounted for 50% of axis strength, and Germany devoted 60% of its resources to the eastern front. From 1943, Germanys airpower concentrated in the west to counter the allied bombing offensive, giving the USSR air superiority in the east.
FYI about 80% of German casualties during WW2 happened on the eastern front.
The Soviets broke the back of the German army.
Putin had showed signs of his ambitions well before 2014 the West leaders had turned a blind eye to him for money and other benefits.
It’s very simple the West should stop all trade and completely shut off countries that do not follow are basic rules of law and human rights. No ifs and buts it may cost a bit of money but the effort will be worth it. I believe most China can be turned to be a nicer country and India needs to stop playing the fool or lose business with the West too.
NATO made a commitment to defend Ukraine in this scenario when they gave up the nuclear weapons they had after the collapse of the USSR.
We made that commitment and we have to adhere to it.
Stories. You forget that the West is the minority both in population and in natural resources. The west will be the big loser if they attempt to cut other nations off. I wish they can even do that sooner and let the global majority dump the US dollars for a start.
YES
No it’s about not risking a major war ove something a bit dubious or which we can’t succeed in. It’s like not going to war with Germany over the Sudetenland or Czechoslovakia but going to war over Poland.
Absolutely, and restrict access to the internet to countries that abide by democracy and the rule of law.
Why the repeated cutting to someone who doesn't speak?
Because she's 'easy on the eye' as the Aussies say 😂.
I am from the US and we have big elections coming up in a few months. We have to vote for candidates who understand the threat Russia poses to security.
Россия вам не угрожает. Вы забыли, что нас разделяет океан?
🗽🇺🇸 🦅Stand proud, strong and ✝️Keep the faith🌻💙💛🕊️🇺🇸🇺🇦🕊️ 🫂with much Love from Indiana, USA🙏
SLOW means not being able to gain the MOMENTUM. 😢
Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
They only won in 1945 because of the massive material aid from the USA and UK, and because from 1943 the Germans had loads of troops engaged elsewhere.
Although I like the enthusiasm, denying the USSR's role in defeating Germany is wishful thinking and false history. Germany was defeated on the eastern front, before the allies landed.
You could argue that as with Napoleon, winter played a part.
@@LuukvdHoogenprecisely - these armchair warrior people are bloodthirsty maniacs…
You are brainwashed and insane…
Россия выиграла вторую мировую войну и разгромила Вермахт. А кто уничтожил Наполеона и Францию
Why such a prolonged on camera of a person not speaking? What is the point?
I agree 100% with overview on every point.
Governments take note, 'you can always make more money, you can't make more time', give Ukraine more support and engage more to achieve resolutions sooner rather than later..
Sir Richard shows that he has way better understanding of how this has to be handled than the leaders in the west.
He's considering the military side, they are looking at re-establishing close trade ties with Russia, stuff like that.
Why am I looking at a women who apparently doesnt know there is a cam on her, while I hear other people talking?
She was taking a nap, then looking at her social media, then taking a
sip of water, then staring at the ceiling, then…
At least she didn't yawn 😅
She's very hot. I wonder what was going through her mind.
Just loved the editing of this piece, the cutaways were just a hoot. In the tradition of Mitchell and Webb, British comedy lives on.
Putin is the world's Biggest Circus 🎪 😂😂
How?
Biggest circus? Putin is the world’s most evil walking
@@jamesgreen1116 Learn Russian, dig in and you will see. Do not expect polite Western people to digest it for you.
No, America is
@@jamesgreen1116 … The world doesn’t exist just to spoon-feed you with all the answers… try working it out for yourself… that is when you finally remove your head from your buddy Putins’ rear-end !!
Keir Starmer 's spokesperson said that UK defence contribution depends on UK economic growth - hang on - didn't they promise economic growth in their election promises.
thanks
A defence review within a year is not acceptable. The review is needed now.
Mr A. Lisowski.
Why didn’t these military people challenge the tories? No new government should commit without understanding what is needed
That camera on the lady not speaking. Wow, terrible production. Shocking.
Yes a newspaper running a radio show so video production all a bit of a stretch
Could you please report on Russia's current energy crisis?
That’s an easy one. They don’t have one, it’s us that’s in an energy crisis.
Do these presenters know that they’re not on radio?
NATo should had helped Ukraine before the Crimea invasion
Ukraine is not a NATO country. And nato didn't want a direct war with Russia, which why they won't formally offer membership to Ukraine.
@@tmcfootball96 looking back now things would be very different if the Nato application was made sooner. Moldova, Georgia, and other countries are on Putin's list.
Ukraine the most corrupt nation on earth
Before Crimea, the money would have been siphoned off in to Russian Oligarch pockets. - a lot has changed in the last 10 years.
Putin cannot keep one square meter of Ukraine otherwise, Putin will have won by the standards applied by the Russian propaganda machine.
I’ll bet Putin is watching the summit with some BIG EARS!!! 😂
Here they come Putin..😊
Negotiations should only be about reparations in the form of "You will pay this- end of discussion"
No children were harmed as the clinic was closed, video shows that it was a Patriot missile that hit the clinic. Confirmed by experts in examining the much smaller blast and descent angle which are very different to the claimed Russian MH31.
This war in Ukraine is almost like the Vietnam war….
Why is she looking perpetually puzzled?
😅🤣😂🤣😅😅.. what an i mb e c i le !!!
Who was that woman we got occasional shots of?😂😂😂
Does UK military spending refer to actual military costs, or does it include pensions and other indirect costs that could be accounted for elsewhere?
Always nice to see objective interview with all sides equally represented. Uh, well almost. Well, do what you want, what could go wrong?
Ukraine rightly so wants its territory back, the west cant keep this tiptoeing up on restrictions on how ukraine decides to defend itself with NATO donated armaments, NATO needs to realise there is no way to win this without pushing putin to the limits of his nuclear threats so all parties can walk away happy in the end, difficult decisions will have to be made or it will give russia more motivation to press on, the longer we wait the worst it will get.
Retired Generals complaining defence funding isn't enough, also in today's news rain is wet.
I'd expect The Times to offer a slightly more sophisticated analysis than just reporting their comments and putting an alternative view. I can get that via the BBC.
Yes,the question is WHY…
He's still there!
Germany needs to be the biggest supplier: the disaster of N2 pipeline needs open German responsibility.
Sir Richard’s “pragmatic” translates to PATHETIC DEFEATIST.
Neither starmer nor his party can count
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Thank you for the laugh.
The NHS is a privilege we enjoy as a result of living in a secure and prosperous nation. Security and prosperity go hand in hand and for too long we’ve pretended that “winning” the Cold War was in some way the end of a story instead of the start of a new chapter.
Europe has always been a war-like environment.
Russia in decline? Woa didn’t see that coming
Richard is a great man and should be prime minister !
I hate negative tossers
Why the constant cuts to interviewers who aren't speaking? It's so distracting!
Putin send him to jail%
The British propensity to invent alternate realities is truly amazing!
My how values and priorities have deteriorated.
When Churchill was asked to divert funding for the arts, to the war effort he simply asked, "Then what are we fighting for? "
Putin's new strategy seems to be to hold out for a Trump victory in November and rely on the Western press to help in that regard.
"It is more important than the national health service."
Very sad, very true.
We need to increase funding for both defence AND the NHS. This will require increased taxation. I recommend massive increases in taxation on big corporations, especially big US tech companies like Amazon, Facebook, X etc - giving them the option of either paying up or leaving the UK market permanently.
Strange that Richard Dearlove would say he doubts that Ukraine can recover all of its land. This statement is similar to the statement Mark Milley often repeated while Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff. Maybe these two collaborated, or maybe they're both pessimists.
It's not that far-fetched though. The technologies used in the war currently heavily favors the defender.
It shouldn’t be forgotten that Macron, who isn’t going anywhere for a good while yet, has identified Russia’s actions as an existential threat to France and has committed France to ensuring that the 1991 borders will be restored.
@@tobiasrietveld3819Industrial wars are won by material exhaustion. Russia has more than Ukraine, but we have more than Russia. It lies in our hands.
The main concern is if Trump regains power he will do Putins bidding and pull back on support for Ukraine. That then leaves the UK and Europe to fund defeating Putin alone.
It’s a rough spot for the UK. 14 years of stagnant Tory rule has meant we are broke with crumbling infrastructure. The need for a strong defense is still so necessary.
That's an interesting anti trump angle very creative. 👏 That doesn't mean I'm voting him.
@@jamesortiz5388 'anti trump'? It's just fact. Trump loves Putin, doesn't like NATO and wants to end US military aid to Ukraine. Fact.
Is Trump truly in Putins’ pocket?
Why should we defeat Putin? It is surely in our best interests to allow him Donbass and Crimea. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to imagine that whatever further ambitions he may possibly have could extend to military action against the UK. In fact there are good reasons for our two countries to enter into economic agreements and military treaties.
@@nataliehladun744100%
No one saying about sick India with Chinese, Iran, North Korea, Sick Russia Even maybe Hungary. West still is a sleep.
A full conflict with nato is the only threat which can deter russia. Announcing up-front that nato will not engage, destroys any leverage and influence. We are not helping Ukraine to win. Instead we stick to symptom's control. This will always lead to further deterioration.
Great interview
Too slow, some of these generals need to wake up, it's less than a week since Starmer took over.
After 14 years of the Tories neglecting or sabotaging every aspect of the UK. After their gorging on the public purse and slashing taxes to the Super-Rich. Surely one week's more than enough to put everything back in proper order. Obviously Starmer's been sitting on his hands doing nothing. Hilarious analysis by Times journalists as always.
Same story for 2 1/2 years. That’s history.
Promises!
The problem, as far as I’m concerned is that Britain should stop trying to sort out Europe’s problems their cross-border problems. This has been going on for over 100 years and bankrupted Britain in the past we lost over 1 million people last century trying to defend Europe from its own extremes.
Oh, really? 😁😁😁
starmer wont spend money on defense. he doesnt get plaudits from his key supporters for defense spending and many would actually welcome russia!
I disagree with Dearlove's analysis, but time will tell.
I really despair at our leaders ,a defence review that will probably take a year to complete,the best our government can come up with.
Ukraine must recover every square centimeter of its territory, every single one
Too right!!!! 🇺🇦
And HOW ARE THE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT?
UK might not have enough weapons to send, but US has thousands of M1 tanks, M198 155mm towed arty and M2/M3 IFVs in the desert of Nevada. They could have sent it to Ukraine, but they did not? Whats the calculus here? NATO think Ukraine was enough to hold off Russia indefinitely or somebody wants them to fight for a while?
Or 2008 in Georgia...I still suspect Sullivan and wonder how he has such influence.
Do we live in the same world ?
The Simpsons always knew what was going on.
Starmer clearly makes me clearly sick. It is clearly a clear fact that one cannot be too clear about being SICK! Gpx
I always find it amazing that Brits criticize everyone but themselves. They say "we" but when they break down the we they only mention US and Germany. It's as if the UK doesn't exist.
Well, you voted for that in 2016. Have your cake and eat it too 😂😂😂
Sir Dearlove claims that the West “shut its eyes” to the escalation problem, but strangely omits to point out the West has itself to thank for the escalation in the first place. Sir Richard’s omission to mention, just as much as the Times’ failure to question, the need for a diplomatic resolution reveals what most now know. The hawkish warmongering and rhetoric has little to do with Ukraine and far much more to do with ramping up European and UK spending on NATO. The US can ill afford to prop up the Alliance whilst its own national debt continues to sky rocket 🚀
Putin might decide to go bonkers on the world and hit the big red button.
He may, but we can't necessarily assume that the people who follow his orders are equally as bonkers as him.
Why not include the janitors cleaning the staff washrooms down the hall as well. How disfunctionally presented.
2.5 GDP Dont hold your breath with flip flop.
How much money would be saved if some of these freebies and foreign trips for MP and civil servants were stopped. More important than the NHS coming from a man that get free private health care.
What freebies? I’m not aware of any freebies…
Times radio who keeps editing in the presenter who is not speaking? Very distracting!
I know the answer let putin have his money with his family and go somewhere else and leave Russia and Ukraine
@@karencarter9341 putler will be put on trial for the genocide of the Ukrainian people! If terrorist russia was murdering everyone in your country would you say let him go & let him have his $. I think NOT!
what is wrong with the person operating the camera.
British military spending at 2.5% also includes spending on pensions. Does spending on military pensions help NATO to improve the british defenses ?
Yes. The soldier is an employee like any other, and needs to be looked after. I don't suppose there'd be many takers if the military offered no pensions or benefits of any kind. There's a problem now with military recruitment because of poor wages, living conditions, and benefits generally. And no, you can't put military pensions in some other bucket - it's all part of the cost of running a military.
Times radio ‘journalists’ are off their faces 💊😵💫
Delusional.
You only need to look at their headlines regarding Russia over the past 2 years, to realise Times Radio don’t even have 1 bar of Wi-Fi signal with reality.
Slava. Ukraina❤❤❤❤❤
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The tail is wagging the dog, we're stupidly playing by his rules. We need to show him strength, anyone who knows Eastern European behaviour, strength is all that counts. the ridiculous ROE we set is like being a one-legged man in an ars8- kicking competition.
keep coping
he is too stubborn and too macho to admit such a terrible mistakes so millions die. Pure evil
Слава Україні!
Kick Russia out of the UN
Can’t be done, Russia is a permanent member of the security council.
Why are the viewers getting lots of footage of a woman drinking water, doing her homework, and passively (now and then) listening to whatever she is listening to. How bizarre and disfunctional.
It’s a radio show
pootin saves the contents of his breafcase, so he can swim in it later.