BREAKING…Texas Biologists Release Two Year Study On Bass That Changes Everything…
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Randy talks about a recent bass study in Texas…#bassmasters #bassfishing #bassfishingleague #fishing #lake #basslake #bassmasteropens #bassfish
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Randy, then you should be campaigning for catch weigh and immediate release. Taking fish out of their "natural home" and moving them miles away and putting them in a "huge city" (the release point) should be at least as bothersome as spot lighting.
Yes, exactly.
LOL
I don't know if moving them is a big deal but I guarantee that spending a long time in a "live well" is terrible for fish. Rocking back and forth in a little box with other fish beats them up.
But catch and release doesn’t support the big fan-driven weigh in spectacle that attracts people and sponsors, and allows the tournament organizers to better showcase themselves. Again, back to the $$$
No offense but I would tend to lean more towards a scientific study than your personal experience
Studies have to have much larger sample size over many more parts of a lake over many more years than that study. Laws of statistics state that. Totally invalid study. Cmon man.
Im going with the study. And if it’s catch and release tournaments make them like kayak tournaments bases on length.
Where’s the link for the study?
Randy, the BASS Elite series was at Smith Lake here in Cullman Alabama last weekend. I went fishing Monday morning and launched at the park where they did for 4 days. There were dead bass floating everywhere. Everyone was using FFS and catching fish in 40-60 feet of water. They thr ow their fish in a live well with a water temp nearing 90 degrees, then beat the hell out of them for miles back to weigh in. I’m pretty sure the water temp on Smith Lake at 50 feet is way below 70 degrees. It’s a shame how they disrespect the resource.
That is sick
This probably happens with tournaments with regular guys. I take long walks across a dam from time to time. I recall seeing a dozen or so good fish sun bleached and floating belly up in a pocket just off the dam. Right across from the main weigh in marina.
Why would they be at the launch area when they take them to diffrent locations over the lake to release them. Not the launch area. Do you have any pictures of all these fish that perished?
@@timmaloney5495 not all of the fish are taken away, and some of them are dumped very close to the way in if the way in tanks get full sometimes they release them right at the way in site
Was just asking because I have been to several dozen bass elite tournaments and never saw them release remotely close to take off. Thanks for your observation.
I was told a study was done and the bass were shying away from the FFS pings. They will adapt eventually and learn to avoid it...nature finds a way. 🙌
Its fishing pressure. Period. Only the responsible anglers can save the fisheries by releasing the quality fish..
The push for Catch and release has hurt a lot of lakes across the country. There’s a reason they want you to keep some fish.
Everyone should keep a limit, ideally the smaller eaters and not the trophy breeders.
You've cited a study you don't agree with that "changes everything"? I don't get it.
It seems like he is not even listening to the words coming out of his own mouth!
Clickbait
Fishing is great on both lakes.
I don't get why guys watch Randy's videos only to bitch about it.
That's randy for you.. I don't agree with your 2 year study lmao
I remember reading the summary of a study back in the early '90s that said bass were usually homebodies, but catching them, transporting them and releasing them elsewhere (e.g. tournaments) caused those relocated fish to become nomadic. In other words, tournaments themselves reduce the population of fish in shallow cover.
True . But nobody wants to here that . Personally , I think the U.S. Government should Ban Tournament Fishing . Nation Wide.
@@randymiller5008or just catch, weigh and release where the fish is caught during tournament fishing. Easy way to solve the nomadic issue
Now they call it new lake syndrome and say a fishery is in the best health the first 10yrs after its built or formed. And they also claim too much grass creates an unhealthy fishery. I don't have data but what i do know is it seems like the best places to fish are the places that states dont touch and have been around for way longer than 10yrs.
Same here, been fishing almost as long as Randy and can attest from first hand experience that weed kills spoil the fishing. I cannot say where the fish go or if they die off but the fact remains, great fishing holes go to crap shortly after the DNR kills weeds. I am convinced the decline in oxygen drives fish away but one would think they could be located all bunched up somewhere.
Im from Indiana and every lake the dnr as anything to do with is a complete joke. The private lakes or any body of water they have nothing to do with is actually pretty decent. Not to mention the only fish they stock are the ones that hardly anyone fish for or the ones that really don't need to be stocked. All the lakes are loaded with catfish but for some reason they keep stocking them but wont stock bass or any kind of baitfish that would benefit the bass or crappie population.
Everything y'all are mentioning is why FFS is horrible for bass fishing
@joshuagann8026 its sad and unfortunately doesn't look like much will change.
There's a place here called finger lakes and the only lakes worth a damn are way off the beaten path. I've found a lake back there where the bass are HUGE. And I never see a soul out there. Ever.
Leave the grass alone!!!!! There is as many fish now as ever but, the fish are more nomadic and these older lakes have "forests" of submerged timber that a large population of bass have now taken up residence in. The reason is that this timber has aged to the point that all the tannins in the wood have depleted to the point that now dissolved oxygen levels are stable in these trees. Sonar and scope waves also keep fish sensitive to the presence of pressure. Crawfish do live in submerged timber btw. Ask divers.
either way there on the bottom.....bass still had to leave 70ft to get to bottom or a rock ledge in 20
Agree about crawdads. Interesting about the tannins, duh, just never though too much about it. Thanks for sharing!
As lakes age the fishing quality overall normally decreases over time. Because there is lake decelopment, less shalow cover, increased fishing pressure, too many tournaments, pollution, more angling pressure, the fish move deeper.
So this guy wanted to tell us about this "shocking" study that basically nothing has changed in the lake and its healthy but its wrong. UNBELIEVABLE this guy...
Fishing is great on both lakes.
Yelling at the cloud again......
On Fork they killed off so much grass that's a huge reason.
same thing here in Ohio?Wiping out all the grass!! How can we stop this madness??
@@markw8710 wow sounds like Florida..they spray our grasses and pad/reed feilds
More fishermen. Commercial fishing technology. More fish being caught and more fish being removed from the water. Of course fishing is going downhill.
Shocking- Randy doesn’t believe the survey results. He knows more than science again….
He knows more than you. Man has fished for 50 years.
Prob thinks the Earth is flat too.
@@michaellarkins6983 He knows more about fishing than I do. I never claimed to know more than Randy. But he doesn’t know more than a fisheries biologist about science. All about his forward facing sonar agenda. When the science doesn’t line up with his thoughts-he disagrees.
Loving the hat!!! 🤠 Happy 4th of July Randy!!! 👍 Great info🤓 what about that New Tackle room tour ❓🤔 Thanks !!!!
Damn, Texas Wildlife and Fisheries need to fire their Biologists and hire you to manage their lakes.🙃
First thing I would do would be ban fishing during the spawn and make spotlighting illegal…
Our lakes are great, don't need any out of state help.
I think Texas knows what there doing! Just saying… Lake Fork had a major fish kill a few years back in the heavy weight class. What hurt most Texas lakes in the last few years has been a major loss in Hydrilla , millfoil etc.
Yes it has really hurt Bass Fishing at Fork.They should have planted all kinds of cover when lake was low fixing the Dam.
They SPRAYED Toledo Bend & KILLED ALL the Grass & it will NEVER return
The Bass are still there but now there's much less cover for them
Also there was a Great Flood that REMOVED MUCH of the Timber
The Bass are still there but now there's much LESS Structure
The Bend is loaded with grass...I have a place there
@markduran1470 so the Spraying must not have worked
say goodbye to your state......they destroyed FL with spray airboats
KVD said in one of his recent videos that due to the large number of tournaments that we have to wake up and realize that Catch , photo and release has to be instituted if we want to protect the resource .
Happy 4th Randy
So we are just spooking fish more and causing them to bite less? Not sure Im buying all in on that.
no way theres plain and simply LESS FISH TO CATCH with more people straining the resource
And too many anglers are keeping too many big quality bass when they ought to return them to the lake to continue living.
You have to account for more angler pressure and adaptation. Some socal lakes guys are fishing on 4lb fly or cropie jigs to get bite.
yes...fish do learn fast. I fished a man made pond at a hotel once they stocked and every bass in the lake was trained on lures. Still caught a few desperate for food but they didn't look at most lures
Im pretty sure those crawfish live in the trees over deep water
Agreed. Or maybe it went to feed somewhere and came back to deeper water
@@BassmasterTLor stayed five to ten feet down and moved horizontally from shore to suspended down the same depth over deep water. The studies I’ve seen showed that fish will move over deep water, but stay around the same depth as they were when shallow. Most likely because it’s difficult or uncomfortable for them to significantly change depths due to pressure changes.
100% they live within the trees at depth.
It’s such a simple question to answer……. Obviously people are taking bigger bass home. Just pass regulations to “Slot” the bass harvest to “13in-18in” and problem solved.
would guess that different bodies of water have different populations. Lake Fork is a specific type of ecosystem with distinct prey species. would love to see a similar study conducted on bass in a blue-back herring lake... in some ways a 'bass is a bass is a bass'. that said, it would make sense that there are distinct segments of the population that 'prefer' shallow, or deep or grass or rocks. I'd also 'bet' that there are distinctly different segments that are active in day time (tournament hours) versus late day versus 'dark'.
I wonder if bass pretty much stay in the area that they were hatched in. If they are hatched in deeper water or shallow water, they stay in or around that area their entire life.
Well then if the electronics affect the fish and make them shut down then livescope should be protecting those bigger fish. If they are less likely to bite with the effects of electronics then the more livescope then the big fish won’t be caught as much or hurt.
What age were the bass.? My opinion is: Youngsters might hang shallow and chase food until they start to figure things out . Teens hang out with other teens cruising around deep and shallow areas going after what’s available at the time. Old ones like the lazy boy chair type cover and sit and wait for their opportunity to eat when something gets too close. Yep, they are much like us.
I always thought that younger bass stayed up shallow and as they grew and increased in size the deeper they went.
I have witnessed half pounders cruising the shoreline for creek chubs, small bream and crawdads.
I have caught larger bass 50 feet from the bank. 🤔
Every 6lb and up bass I've ever caught was 10 feet or less from the bank.
depends on the lake...here in FL a clear lake will have nothing shallow but 1lbers you go out deep its 3lb+ and on a shallow tanic lake the big ones will be shallow there entire life
I wanted let everyone know, one Great bass spokesman and friend passed on to better fishing lakes in
heaven , yesterday. I am sure everyone knows of him. He started the Big Bass Splash on Sam Rayburn back in early 80s and then move on to other big bass lakes around other states.As said he was a great friend mine and he always had great smile on his face.He be greatly missed. So I want say good bye to great friend, good bye .
Bob Sealy,owner of. the Big Bass Splash
Randy, do you fish the Hybrid Hunter?
Kind of sounds like some of the things Buck Perry was saying 70 years ago. 😂.
I don't know a soul with the Arkansas game and fish , yet I'm proud and thankful for the job they do here, and I'm sure it's similar in other states.
This is not the first study with these finding. But the findings are overall consistent. Fishing pressure and removing the more catch-able individuals would support the DNR's claim of little change in their surveys stats. Electro-fishing isn't fishing so it's not comparable and shouldn't be used for comparison. Not different from a chatter bait bite going cold after a few days of practice under stable weather. The fish are in the area but not interested in that chrome side blue back rattletrap.
Texas us excellent in there bass management. To bad mussouri conservation is so pathetic in there bass management.
I live in Texas, about half way between Fork, and Toledo Bend. TPWL did a study on some bass that were tagged before that major freeze we had here about 5-6 years ago. For about 2weeks the low temperatures were from zero, down to -18°,and the highs were from zero up to 25°. Here in northeast Texas, that is cold. Anyway, that study on Fork, and Toledo Bend showed that during that artic blast, the average debth the bass were at was only 6 feet. I thought they would get as deep as they could. Only 6 feet, and very little horizontal movement, mostly up and down. That was a shock.
They were sitting right above the thermocline after the lakes turned. It was an odd event but someone broke this down on a video a few years ago after that winter here(dfw resident). Made sense. Wish I knew where to find that vid. I tried looking but couldn’t find it.
Fishing is great on both of those lakes. 10 lb plus bass are caught daily. Takes over 100 lbs to win most 4 day tournaments. Fork had a drought a couple of years ago and killed a lot of grass. T Bend was sprayed which killed a lot a grass 10 years ago a d its finally coming back. All lakes vary with floods, droughts and natural changes.
Why post this if your disagreeing with this study
"I don't necessarily agree with that because it doesn't jibe with my feelings about the matter and we all know how good, hard data is no match for strong emotions..." 😶
Can you provide a link to the study?
With advancing technology, how long until anglers are tagging and tracking fish on their own?
Some are already doing it. 😉
@@markw8710 is it legal anywhere?
Personally, I'd like to see a study on how many times a bass can get caught before it becomes too smart to bite a lure. Or are they dumb enough to keep getting caught over and over?
I had read that with a bass, each eye has its own memory, and a basses memory is around, I believe it said was like 17 minutes. This was around 5 yrs ago I read this out of Texas Park and Wildlife magazine.
Caught or seen caught same bass 5 and 6 times during spawn in one year It's why you can't fish for same fish in the catch and release tournaments.
thats an age thing, the older the less they bite! the younger the more "stupid" they are
@charlierobertson3432 that's interesting, I'll look into that. I often fish offshore for tuna and once in a while a tuna will do something crazy and the deckhand or captain will say "oh this fish has definitely been hooked before ". One time I reeled in an 85lb tuna that had a surface iron hooked into its dorsal fin.
I’ve heard multiple different times for bass memory, 17 min being one of them.. However a lot of folks with ponds have taught their bass well enough to hand feed them. Same spot. Bass sees shadow, knows what’s up, enhales shad before it even hits the water. Surely those folks aren’t feeding them like this every 17 minutes.
It’s TPWD. Texas Parks & Wildlife Department.
I fished Fork for years.Its not the Lake it once was Way too many tournaments.Fork was a fantastic Lake however the pressure and tournament fishing has tore this lake down.
I believe there is merit in interviewing anglers that fish a particular Lake for their observations and experiences and include them in the overall analysis. In this day and age I tend to be very skeptical of fish and wildlife agencies studies. There seems to be an awful lot of pressure put on these agencies form external sources (political and private) that do not represent the sportsmen interest. I think that taints the studies to favor those applying the pressure. Without a doubt money and politics play a role in outcomes. I also firmly believe nationwide there are far to many tournaments held on public waters. Every tournament that requires fish to be brought back to a central location to be weighed and released definitely has fish mortality.
So are we just going to ignore that you pretty much ripped this from a much more in depth video on this by BassHQ from over a year ago?
I don't know if you saw this, but I thought you might live to know that the IGFA has recognized 7 or 8 species of black bass.
I honestly think the bass just get smarter we don't practice catch and release on any other fish species so they get to learn and adopt
Some of them bass are ate , I can see if folks wanting to eat fish however there other fish to catch an eat instead of bass , one day folks will remember once them big fish are gone they are gone.
Old fish don’t like noise, just like old people
TPW - Texas Parks and Wildlife
Have they ever release bass in the open water, instead from the bank?
Did you finally find a new boat?
Still looking
This study doesn't agree with my preconceived opinion. Therefore, I don't agree with it. Lol.
Randy, the video title says the study “changes everything,” but in the video you say you don’t believe it.
C’mon man!
Love how you pick and choose the data from the studies, lol. You are throwing hard data from scientists out the window in favor of your anecdotal experience.
But...but...he overheard all those guys at the ramp talking about it! Man...there had to be at least TWO of them, if not more...and that's not what they said at ALL!" 😶
The fish are jus getting smarter then
City bass, country bass
New fisherman, young fisherman.....
PLEASE LEARN HOW TO PROPERLY HANDLE BASS!!!
😅7:29 7:30 Randy, why did you even post this? Biologist proved you wrong, with their studies, yet in your opinion say they are wrong. Please follow tbe true science. Not opinion. And apparently ffs did hurt
It’s Texas Parks and Wildlife NOT Texas Parks and Recreation.
Geez.
Randy you should go to school to be a biologist, then you can tell us what it is. As you say, "I don't agree with that".
Spoiler alert / plot twist. They found Hoffa.
There's a lake here in East Texas that at any given time you could catch up to 25 ,30 bass every visit ...after a pro bass television event it declined...due to over crowds of boats with live scope ECT....no we're lucky for 5-10 a visit
I have a tiny lake in FL like that.....they use to school in big schools of 3-5lbers now they won't bust or come up for years......pressure did it and water quailty
The low dnr guy turns in the numbers. The upper dnr releases the numbers that fits their agenda. Like gossip. What he said is not what she said. I’ve just described politics. Save some for seed.
Bahahaha!!! Dude takes the survey as “gospel” except for the part that contradicts his agenda. If that doesn’t prove what a joke he is, I don’t know what will.
This the most important video ever produced in the entire history of bass fishing for one single reason: Randy states " ... I think there are way too many variables that you can't control ...". This one statement should be applied every time someone draws a conclusion to support some belief they have about how bass fishing works. Bass fishing is a 10 equation problem with 50 variables so it is not solvable definitively. This is true for all facets of bass fishing including FFS. This is the one time where Randy's belief system correctly trumps the science because the science is not even remotely inclusive enough to draw definitive conclusions.
Thanks for probably the only intelligent statement on this video.
@@DennisMorgan-ls8sc Yeah...maybe it's just me, but I detected a very heavy sarcastic overtone here... 😅
@Pudge4400 He hasn't fished either of these lakes in years. Just reporting hearsay and someone else's info without either fishing there regularly or not reading the entire several years of studies..
Those people that study populations should use FFS and these people should be the only people that are allowed to use it , so that they can make better decisions for all Lakes , this is the only way this new tech should be allowed , studies only
Whatever you say there, Mussolini...🤣
Bass are just more educated.
Im certain the trolling motor noise is a much bigger factor than we want to believe. I’ve noticed my number of catches is so much higher when using my kayak and subtlety paddling around with zero electronics, compared to my boat. Very perturbed by this is the reality.
Be interesting how many bass did they follow. At one of our trophy lakes for bass grass carp were stocked by DWR and completely ruined the bass fishing. Im in total agreement with brettaylor9098