Royal Enfield Classic 500 Indian & UK Comparison + Other Bike Talk
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- Royal Enfield Classic 500 Indian & UK Comparison + Other Bike Talk
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In this video I meet up with Mark and we chat about bikes and compare our Royal Enfield Classic 500's. His bike was produced for the Indian market and he noticed some differences to mine, which is a UK model. Some of the differences are down to the age of the bikes, mine being three years newer. As you can tell, neither of us are experts, but we spent 20 minutes wandering around the bikes picking things out.
It seems the oval cover on the side of mine does indeed hide the ABS gubbins, where his has a little cubby hole.
Please feel free to comment if you know which differences are due to the age of the bikes, and which are due to the different markets that the bikes were produced for. And of course if you know of any that we haven't spotted.
0:00 Video intro
0:48 Channel intro
1:00 Meet Mark
2:57 Why a Royal Enfield Classic 500?
3:51 Royal Enfield Classic 500 Indian & UK Comparison
17:09 Are you an expert?
17:30 We love our Royal Enfield Classic 500's
18:58 Would you let anyone else wash it?
19:32 Black Widows?
Thank you for watching.
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I am so glad my vintage British motorcycles are pure motorcycles not touched by government regulations. I love my BSA C-15 250 singles in both street bike and dirt bike versions. Room enough for 2 up because they were made to be real transportation not a child's toy. My Triumph TR25W " Turd" goes faster in the dirt than I want to go. Big touring HD's weigh more than my URAL side car outfit.l can't imagine picking up one of them with out a crane. My Triumph TR25W is light enough for me to put it on a milk crate to do chain maintenance . So blessed to have my little critters.
Despite the EFI, o2 sensors etc. these bikes still have character. I quite like carbs and minimal technology on a bike. I suppose there’s advantages and disadvantages either way. Modern bikes don’t need a drip tray left under them, and they’re more reliable. But if there are any issues you’re less likely to be able to fix it yourself with a simple tool kit. Euro legislation has left bikes running ultra lean. I fitted a booster plug to richen the mixture, but it’s a shame we have to find a way around the ridiculous restrictions. There will come a time that we won’t be allowed to make such changes.
Many thanks. Nice to hear about your old bikes. I have a 64’ AJS 350 in the garage. One fine day I’ll get around to fixing it up and taking it out 🤞🏼
Great chat and interesting you saying 27 bhp is fun on the 500s. After 52 years and many many bikes of all types I have found the 20bhp of my Classic 350 has given me the most fun and enjoyment in years. For the first time I am not thinking what bike would I like next. Keep up the great interview videos, love them 🙂
Thank you kindly! That is exactly how I find it. After years of bigger, better, faster, more, it was quite a surprise to find myself having so much fun on the Classic. I’m sure anyone that tries one would be the same.
Thanks again and all the best 👍🏼
The locking fuel cap did used to be on the UK bikes but was changed in the last few years for a more authentic looking screw in cap. ABS appeared with the rear disk for the Euro 4 bikes, made from late 2017 onwards, which I believe applied worldwide. The front name plate is not on Indian market bikes because of the additional front number plate.
Excellent information, thank you. And thank you for watching 👍🏼
That's definitely a Indian market 2016 Model classic 500. From 2017 Indian models Tank is not bolted and got a side stand down switch, single spark and got EFI. All 500 models were discontinued from Feb 2020 in India. Iam from India and I own a 2017 model 500. This bike got its own character.
Very interesting, thank you! Yes discontinued everywhere, sadly. And yes I think we all agree about the bikes character.
Thanks again 🙏🏼
Super episode! Lovely to you listen to you two without too much expert jargon, would have loved to be standing there with you both. Very best wishes for Christmas and the new year from Berkshire 🙏🎅🏼🇬🇧
Many thanks. It was great fun putting this one together with Mark. I’d like to film more of this type of video. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Best wishes for Christmas and new year to you too. Thanks again 🙂👍🏼
Loved the video again. Thank you Jeff.
Thank you Mr Devonaholics 🙂👍🏼
They definitely take you back in time. I have just bought the new 350 classic and I love it. Got rid of my 11 year's old ZZR1400 which was as new . I don't miss the power at all. I'd like to own a 500 like yours as well so might have to save up.
The 350’s are great. I haven’t ridden one but a few friends have them and love them. From what they say, it seems the 350’s are a little more refined. Enjoy 🙂👍🏼
Great video guys thanks! I live in the Philippines and trying to find out what model I have to buy parts was a task. You’ve helped confirm I do have an Indian model. I still don’t understand the BS part of the equation. Anyway she’s changed my life and I just can’t wait to hear her thumping each day. All the best!
Just brilliant little bikes! I’m glad the video helped someone in a small way. Thank you for watching and commenting. Safe travels 👍🏼
Wonderful commentary and chat, gents! Here I sit, in southwestern USA (New Mexico) with a new-to-me 2018 Classic in battle green in my garage. Just found it on marketplace, drove up to Denver over the weekend and she followed me home in my truck bed. The side cover had been off as the young lad who owned it claimed shifting issues. I inserted a wavy washer on the shifter shaft as some of these bikes are a bit loose where the shaft rides in the right hand cover. It shifts fine on the centerstand through the gears so a few more bits 'n pieces need to go on and I'm off! My daily commute is on a BMW 1200RT which is a stellar machine but for it's purpose of covering miles with speed and comfort. The Enfield just captured my heart, taking me back to my early days on a Yamaha 650 twin. If I could only transport myself and my new "green machine" over the pond it would be splendid to share a ride with you....on the wrong side of the road, but I won't hold that against you. Cheers from America!
Oh that’s lovely. I hope you have many happy miles on the 500. Such characterful little bikes and they really do bring a smile to your face. Coincidentally, Mark has just bought an 1150RT for long rides and to hopefully encourage his other half to ride pillion.
It would be a pleasure to ride with you, on the wrong side 🤣
Many thanks. Take care over there 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 Well tell Mark that my wife has ridden behind me with on a Harley FLHT, a Goldwing GL1800 and a Honda CB900 since we've been married (30 years!). The BMW 1200RT is far away her favorite. The comfort, wind protection and performance is simply stellar. I do believe he'll greatly enjoy the bike as will his wife. Oh, I got all the bits 'n pieces back on the 500 and zipped around the neighborhood today. It's GREAT FUN! Entirely different riding experience but I can't wait to do some work commutes on it. I work on a military base so it will look great there.
@@briand4000 Thank you, I’ll pass that on now 👍🏼
A really enjoyable video with lots of interesting differences discovered 👍
I have a similar video planned for my two bikes but have been too busy to make it so far.
A really relaxed, entertaining chat between the pair of you, you‘re really getting the hang of this interviewing lark SB !
Thanks to the pair of you for taking the time to make this video and for sharing it with the world 🥰
Cheers Jeff and Mark,
El Otro y Rubita bonita ❤️🐕
Thank you very muchly indeed. Very kind, as always.
Urgh! I hate being busy. Where’s the fun in that? 🫤
Mark was incredibly easy to work with, and equally as easy to get along with. This was so much fun to film, and Mark’s enthusiasm so infectious that it was an absolute pleasure . It was on the cards for a long time but, as you well know, being a grown up ( like it or not ) generally means being busy, which makes meet ups difficult to plan. We got there in the end, thankfully.
I hope you find the time for your comparison video. I know that’ll be a good watch.
Thanks again! Much love to you y Rubita Bonita 💕
PS. Thanks also on Mark’s behalf. He was pleased as punch to see your comment 🙏🏻
@@Saddlebags73 🤗
Well, you’re both welcome, it was a really entertaining comparison and chat !
🥃🥃🥃
ER & Rubita
I like to think of them as chats, as opposed to interviews. “Interview” sounds so bleddy formal 🤣
@@Saddlebags73 Definitely chats ! You’re too natural for it to ever be an „interview“ !
Really good though !
Cheers Jeff 🥃🥃
ER
@@economicalrides 🙏🏼🙂🍻
I don’t really anything about the Royal Enfield bikes, but man both of those bikes are clean!! They look like they are ready to enter a bike show vs riding around!!
Marks bike is always turned out impeccably, and I do my best with Ernie too. It’s quite satisfying getting them all polished. Many thanks Goofy 🙂👍🏼
The locking fuel cap was replaced by the screw in cap (circa 01/2018) when Euro 4 replaced Euro 3 and also modifications to the fuel tank to conform fuel emissions (canister).
Ah, many thanks for the info. Much appreciated 👍🏼
Most interesting indeed. My Australian delivered 2021 is same as English version.
Number plate fits under headlamp in India.
Bar end mirrors and crank the bars makes for better riding position and rear view. Almost every 500 I come across is slightly different here and there. I’m the same vintage and yes it’s fun zipping the bike along without melting tarmac and blowing your licence! Oh god yes,
Can’t ride it when grubby with road grime!👍
Thank you kindly sir. Yes we both felt a bit dumb when we realised the reg plate would have been under the headlight 🤦🏻♂️
I’ve had all sorts of bikes in the past, but none made me smile like the 500. I’m sure everyone that owns one feels the same.
Thanks again, keep it clean and take care over there 👍🏼
Thoroughly enjoyable chaps! 👍👍Who knew rivet counting could be such a crack!! 😉
Thanks Flapjack! It was great fun filming this. We went for fish n chips afterwards too 😋
@@Saddlebags73 of course you did🤣🤣
Very interesting to see all the differences of the two bikes 👍 and a good natter I mean interview 😃👍
Thank you kindly AR! I prefer to think of it as a natter 🙂👍🏼
Marvellous video, very interesting. Thank you both. I did look into mine and it now has a working cutout switch 😊
Hi Taym, so did yours come with the switch as standard or did you retrofit one?
@@markhutchings8281 it was there but not doing anything. A guy at the farm had a look at it and had it working in about 3 minutes
@@TAYM Ah I see, so it’s looking more like the switch being absent is an Indian model trait!
Thank you muchly TAYM. Now it all makes sense 🙂👍🏼
Brilliant..love your sence of humour... a bit of banter along the way... Lovely Bikes.. 👍👌
Thanks Laurie! Mark and I bounce off each other well 🙂
I do like a heel/toe shifter, reminds me of my C90 days delivering Pizzas back in the 90's 😀
I never had the pleasure of a C90, or a heel/toe shifter. I know all about pizzas though 😋
Thanks Hippo 🙂👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 Mmmm pizza 🍕 😋
@@HippoDrones 😍
Interesting comparison, I'm an older bloke nearing 60 and have been downsizing for a few years. So far down to a VN900, but I'm pretty sure there will be an RE Classic 500 sitting next to it before long. They just have the character of the bikes we used to ride when we were young as you mentioned and there's something about a simple machine you just can't deny. Thanks for the post.
Hi, many thanks for watching. They really do take you back to basics and are such an enjoyable ride. This is the bike that made me realise it isn’t all about bigger, better, faster, more.
All the very best 👍🏼
Excellent video, I was contemplating a part exchange my for my bullet trials against a new meteor but you've somehow managed to convince to keep my bullet. Stick with the toe and heel, if you decided to fit any compact engine bars you'll need it. I have the standard gear change off my 20 plate bullet if you still need one. 👍
Thank you kindly sir! Your choice of course, but the character of the 500’s is unparalleled in my opinion. I must admit the 650 meteor looks good though.
Mark is interested in the shifter. He struggles with the heel shift after surgery on his ankle.
Would you mind emailing me so I can pass on your details?
saddlebags73@btinternet.com
Thanks again 👍🏼
Brilliant video, wasn't sure at the start, but found it really enjoyable. I own a 2009 500. Nothing like anything else I've ridden. Like you I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. I've tried to persuade my riding pal to buy one , but he's not having any of it. I keep a Moto Guzzi Grizo to ride with him. I'm a similar age to yourselves, funny how your preferences change over time.
Ah thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it in the end.
They really are different to other bikes aren’t they. I think you have to ride one to understand it. I’m sure anyone that gives it a chance would be won over by its charm.
Thank you for watching. Safe travels 👍🏼
Great video lads, enjoyed it.
Thank you very much 🙂
It was great to see the comparison between the two bikes and very encouraging to see the answers to the questions you didn't know the answers to in the comments. Lovely looking bikes but whilst I might be a contender for the goaty beard, Viking mustache, leather waistcoat and joining the Black Widows, I'm not yet ready for the Pipe and Slippers.😂 I've a bit of editing to do to the Vulcan's maiden voyage, all in all it was a pleasurable experience but she's a hefty brute.
Thank you Grey Wolf! Yes it’s had a great response.
I think the Vulcan requires such attire 🤣
I bet she is a heavy old lump, but no doubt like the Pan, ok once it’s moving.
Many thanks my friend 👍🏼
That was a great movie. "We 're the Black Widows and we're feared through out the Land." Right turn Clyde!
🤣 Yes, brilliant film. I watched it many times back in the day. “It’s just a little old lady” 😂
Two fantastic bikes with so much difference nice to see an imported one to our stock bikes 👍
Thanks for watching Solo! Had great fun filming this 🙂👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 seemed very professional 👍👍🙏
Those day due to low fuel grade in india need twin plugs also helps with better fuel efficiency. Now in india it's BS6( Bharat Stage 6) equivalent to euro 5.
Thank you very much 🙏🏼 That was the only reason I could think of 👍🏼
Very interesting video. I have a 2020 classic 500 chrome out here in Australia and also a trials 500 2019. I couldn't help noticing that the bars on the Indian model could be the same as on the trials version which are more upright but have an added handlebar brace on my bike. My Trials also has the locking side panel for storage coincidentally as standard. My 535 GT is also fascinating for having more differences than similarities with all the other 500's although at first glance you wouldn't think so. One of the many reasons i have fallen in love with Royal Enfield and that is without mentioning the addictive riding experience. Excellent Vlog as always, cheers, Lester.
Thank you, Lester. Also very interesting hearing from you. I adore the 535 GT’s. They’re quite small aren’t they?
Thanks again Lester. Take care over there 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 When i put the 535 next to my 650 there doesn't seem to be a great deal of difference in size but definitely weight and performance. Every time i look at the 535 however it reminds me of the old British bikes my brother and his mates would be riding in the early 70,s, the begging of the end for British manufacturing of most things not only bikes. I am only 5'7'' and that seems to be an almost perfect height for most of the retro bikes i am interested in triumphs too. An advantage to being vertically challenged that makes a change! Cheers for now.
@@lesterhall5310 Ah ok. Next time I spot one I’ll seek permission for a sit on it. Although I do feel a little perched on the Classic, I think I get away with it on that style of bike. Being tall can be a pain. Not only for fitting bikes, but also constantly being asked to grab things from the top shelf in the supermarket 🤣 Thanks Lester. Take care over there 👍🏼
Another small difference I've noticed is the shape and design of the tail lights. I think the UK version has adopted the design from the new Classic 350 reborn. Regardless both are beautiful and gentlemen's bike. Ride safe, ride hard mates. Its all love. 🔥👍
I changed the tail light on mine to one off a Thunderbird. I’m not sure if my original one is any different to the one on Mark’s Indian model, but now you’ve said, I’ll take a look next time.
Many thanks, and all the best to you 🙂
Interesting video me Ansume. ABS behind the cover, before 2017 ABS bikes also had no ABS and different tank including mounting points for tank.
Thanks Janner 👍🏼 Yes we had a proper look and saw the ABS gubbins behind the panel on mine. It’s quite interesting seeing the differences, but hard to know which are down to the different markets, and which are down to years.
Fascinating even though I don't own an Enfield. Great to hear of other riders bike history. The no cut out on the sidestand is perhaps something that could be rectified/retro fitted???
At 58 I'm still waiting for the urge to slow down to kick in.
Beautifully filmed and great joint audio (did the farmer call the cows in for milking mid vid 😄)
Carol let's me wash her bike all the time..... insists on it in fact
Thanks Bandit! It’s nice to know not only Enfield owners can enjoy it.
Yes, if I were Mark I’d be looking at getting a side stand switch fitted.
Haha, I think you’ve just got to find the right bike to slow you down. The amount of fun I get out of the Classic was a shock.
Yes, bleddy cows timed that well didn’t they 🤦🏻♂️
Pah haa 🤣 what a privilege, washing Carol’s bike. I wouldn’t let anyone wash mine 😳
Thanks Bandit 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 In the latest model which came out in India before it was discontinued, I believe there was a cut out when the side stand was engaged. It had ABS (dual channel) as well.
@@ravinschannel that’s interesting, thank you 👍🏼
i m your new subscriber , love your videos, please make long touring vidoes.
Thank you kindly. I’m travelling to Ireland with Mark at the end of this month. Hopefully there will be videos from there, although I’ll be riding my Himalayan 👍🏼
Isn't it funny that the most enduring motorcycles are not the fastest or the most hi tech but just regular motorcycles that are the most enduring to your heart. The ones you keep for decade and become part of the family like a dog is part of the family. Passed from father to son they are more than the sum of their parts. It's special and meaningful . It may be your motorcycle but it will always be DAD'S motorcycle. Know what I mean?
I know what you mean 100%
These simple little bikes have personality. I’ve ridden all sorts over the years but nothing makes me smile more than puttering around on this one. Thanks again 👍🏼
The missing plate at the front was where an Indian front numberplate will have gone I think
Ah of course, that would make sense. Thank you 👍🏼
Hilarious out takes at the end. Is this RE Classic 500cc also called the Bullet? Look alike.
Ha thanks for watching. Yes, they’re also known as Bullet’s, and the styling has changed very little 👍🏼
I wasn't sure if this vid was going to be for me, being all Enfield but it turned out to be a cracking little interview/chat. Nice one! It's interesting to hear about the people that you know and ride with. A nice broad spectrum channel you have there Mr Saddlebags! P.S, who the hell uses a self retracting stand these days? 😉
I honestly thought it would only appeal to Enfield owners. It’s nice to know you enjoyed it, thanks.
Self retracting stand? Ridiculous idea! I bet that bike has been dropped a 1’000 times 🤪🤣
😁😛
Great detailed comparison. I enjoyed. By the way... the decision would be hard, would take both. :) Keep up mate.
Gregor, my friend, thank you kindly.
I am aware that I am behind on your videos and I will catch up, as always. No matter what, you have always been a great support and I appreciate it. Thanks again 🙏🏻🙂
@@Saddlebags73 I know you will. Just feel free. :) On Wednesday there will be a special one for you. Others... can wait. :)
@@RRRRefuelRideRace If you say so, I know it’s unmissable 🙂👍🏼
really interesting video, totally agree and understand! I think I'd be saying the same things!! there tends to be grades in India if parts, domestic and export. the better quality stuff goes abroad and cheaper parts used internally and super cheap and easy to replace. its one thing to keep in mind for models there. less if a difference these days but still there for many things. take care and ride safe mate 😁🖖🏼
Thanks Quin 🙏🏻
It’s very interesting spotting the differences, but also a little confusing as the bikes changed so much in the 3 years between them. One constant seems to be the character and pleasure for the owners 🙂👍🏼
Very entertaining vid. Thanks. My 2015 Classic 500 has the 02 sensor although ive taken it off as it runs better. My fuel tank has the locking filler cap but no big bolt throgh the front. I also have the side stand switch which can be problematic. A lit of people unplug them. With it connected, the engine wont run when its down even in neutral
Thank you very much! Did you simply remove the o2 sensor and cap the hole?
It seems there are many differences even between the UK models. Mine will run in neutral with the side stand down.
A heel toe shifter takes getting used to like the one on my URAL side car outfit but I like it now.
I had a heel toe shifter on a cruiser I bought since filming this. I adapted quickly and quite liked it. The bike was too bulky though so I moved it on again.
I’d love a go on A URAL outfit.
Very interesting. Two lovely looking blokes....er I mean bikes.
My bike, a Honda GB350s was designed by Honda India and also comes with a heel/toe shifter on the non S model.
🤣 thanks Bikegeist.
Well every day’s a school day. I didn’t even know Honda India existed.
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
It's because many Indians ride in flip flops!
@@mickwalker8813 🤣 true
Efi usually would need the O2 sensor for fuelling, not sure how it map the mixture properly 🤔.
Good shout about the fuel quality for the twin spark
Hmm I’m not sure how that works then 🤷🏻♂️
That’s the only reason I can think of for the twin spark ⚡️👍🏼
Thanks for watching, Weston!
No matter there are various amazing models RE has, like Himalayan, Hunter, scram 411, Bullet, Shotgun, Thunderbird, Super Meteor etc.... but Classic remains the classic and best for all RE lovers... interesting video....👍
I agree! I also have a Himalayan, which is great, I have a lot of fun on it. But it isn’t a patch on the Classic. Many thanks 🙂👍🏼
Great video guys.
The fuel cap is not an age thing I believe, I own a classic 500, 2019 model dual ABS in India and it comes with the lock on tank (and side stand kill switch). But the lockable small side storage space at the side is there (its not an ABS thing). From what I gathered there are not many real differences in India and UK models.
Thank you kindly for your input. Very interesting to hear. Regarding the storage space, mine has no storage there and it does appear to have the abs workings behind the panel, so it’s confusing that yours has abs AND a storage space 🤷🏻♂️ But yes, the differences are subtle 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 yes Sir
That side stand without a switch is potentially lethal.I had an American imported Kawasaki KZ 750 without one.I can remember two occasions when I left the sidestand down and just about came of the bike on the first left handed bend I hit.
Yes it’s a scary thought. I saw him pull away with the stand down once, and I went straight into panic mode. If I were Mark, I’d look into getting a switch fitted.
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I had a 1978 Kawasaki Z200, It had an interesting mechanism on the side stand with a twin retractor spring. Was no problem if you left the stand down and rode off. The stand would lift up slightly then retract. Not seen this on any other bike. Another great feature I've seen in my life once, and not seen again.🤔
@@KTU17N That does sound interesting. I haven’t seen anything like that before.
Very good video
Didn’t know all these differences
I think the plate at the front is where the Indian Reg plate goes not sure 😊😊
Thank you Old school! Yes it’s very interesting, but a little confusing. Some differences are down to the bikes being 3 years apart and some to the different markets.
You’re on the money regarding the number plate. A few folk have said the same. It seems so obvious now 🤦🏻♂️🤣
Quite a few differences there, SB. Possibly the UK model has better suspension to deal with the UK's quality 'roads'. Your chat line talent shows through again.
Pah haa you could be right about the suspension 🤣 Many thanks, Jim 🙂👍🏼
Thanks for this lovely video, enjoyed it very much, including fine sense of humour😜. I love my recently purchased C5 like you do. Except some minor details like too many tastelessly chromed plastic parts: I removed the two plastic covers on the starter motor. Going to replace the ugly rear mirrors for some nice clean stainless steel ones. Don’t like the cheap looking round caps on the swing arm axle either. Would have much preferred some sleek black rubber plugs covering the holes. If anyone has a nice solution please let me know! Finally I am looking to replace the plasticky and fat looking indicator units. But no fancy LED lights please. Could anyone recommend some nice round medium to small sized indicators preferably with some nice sleek polished aluminium housings? Keep up the nice and authentic vids lads👍
Many thanks, Frank! I’m pleased you enjoyed it. It was fun to film.
I agree on the swing arm caps and would be interested in an alternative too. Also the indicators, I have bought two pairs of Lucas style indicators from Hitchcocks. They run regular bulbs and in my opinion are much more tasteful than the bulbous affairs that come as standard. You never know, I might get around to fitting them this winter.
Thanks again and all the best 👍🏼
I kind of like the big indicators. All part of the strange charm of these machines. Agree about the swing arm caps though!!!!URG!
Both very nice bikes! I wish I could help with the questions but I'm a noob. Mark's such a nice chap, I remember him from the Social Ride 👍
But you rode one once, didn’t you? 🤪
Yeh he’s a real good egg 🙂
Thanks NooB 🙏🏼👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 I did, around the block. Not many details were retained...
That was a great little vid. Best line of the week..."are you mental"" haha 😂😂😂
Yes Mark is a funny guy 🤣
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I have an 09 Classic 500 and it has a lot in common with the later Indian model import, the same fuel cap and bolted on tank, no ABS, no kick start, I also have the key lock on the cover and no cover over the starter motor, round tail light.
Very interesting, thank you. You two can spend half an hour walking around each other’s bikes soon 🤣👍🏼
Ah from SB’s reply the penny has dropped! Looking forward to meeting you soon hopefully Warrick! 😀👍🏻👍🏻
Export market Enfield's also use higher grade materials, including better paint apparently. Side stand sensor is standard in export models...not so in Indian domestic market.
Thank you for settling the side stand sensor debate. And thank you for watching 😊👍🏼
I rode a Twin Spark in India. Someone has probably said, but the front fork plate is where the India number plate was fixed. I ride a B5 now.
Hi there! Thank you, yes a couple of guys said about the number plate mounting. It seems so obvious now. Lovely motorcycle, enjoy your rides 🙂👍🏼
The twin spark improves efficiency and helps to meet the emission norms
Thank you kindly. I find it strange that the UK version has a single plug even though the emission regulations are very strict.
Also on euro 4 with rear disc the ecu is more sophisticated. The only real difference as I have had a few is smoother from closed throttle and starting from cold it idles straight away from stone cold in winter whereas the earlier ones you have to warm them a little before it will idle. Not much, 30sec or a minute.
Thanks Charlie! Mine was quite snatchy on the throttle until I fitted a booster plug.
The starter motors covers have a habit of flying off... I almost lost mine, so I upgraded the fastener and fixed with locktite.
Oh thanks for the warning. I might get some loctite on them before it goes missing 👍🏼
I have a 2017 RE 500 Classic Chrome and enjoy riding in a leisurely fashion but after 52+ years riding and approaching 69 in a few weeks speed has not lost it's appeal to me.
Of course the speed thing is done on different bikes.😁😁 My 2017 has the O2 sensor and has the plate, no heel toe shifter either, drum rear and front non abs disc, has the chrome cover on starter, no headlight brow, has kick stand cut out switch, single horn, lockable full cap.
I’ll admit I still have a taste for speed. But the beauty of the Classic is I can have just as much fun at a more sociable pace 🙂
Yours sounds more similar to the UK 2017 model.
It seems that the plate between the forks is where the front number plate would have been on the Indian version.
Many thanks Flat Cap, always good to hear from you 👍🏼
Same age as me! Best wishes for Christmas and the new Year buddy. 🙏🎅🏼🇬🇧
@@philtucker1224Thanks Phil just got back off a -9 degree Celsius ride. My coldest ride to finish up 2022.
@@flatcapcaferacer yes, I took mine to Henley (local) last week on a very cold but dry bright day and I think that’s probably my last before Christmas. I’m trying to design a couple of handgrip shrouds for it now (only because I’m to tight to pay £50 for a pair! ) Stay safe mate.
@@philtucker1224 Good luck, sounds like fun.
Interesting to understand the differences. I thought you couldn't import Indian bikes as they don't meet our regulations here. I could be wrong! I must say those two bikes are as shiny as shiny thing😁
I’m not sure on that 🤔 I’ve heard several stories of folk travelling to India, buying a bike and riding back. The money saved on the purchase of the bike, pays for the adventure riding home. There is a bit of hassle that goes with re-registering it I think, but doable. It may have changed recently unbeknown to me though.
Yep, shinier than a shiny thing on shiny day in shinesville 🤪
My 2018 USA Classic 500 has a cutout switch on the sidestand.
Thank you kindly! From what I can gather, all export models had the cutout switch. Only the domestic model didn’t. They must have cut corners to keep it cheap for the locals. As long as they don’t cut corners with the stand down eh 🤣
Unknown to the reason why the 500 was discontinued but hoping if RE would upgrade the J series 350 to 500 and that will be a great option for the riders
We were told it would have been too expensive to make the 500’s comply with the ever tightening emissions regulations. It would be nice to see the J series upped to 500. Many thanks 🙏🏼
I've seen many Indian Enfields with the front number plate mounted just beneath the headlamp. That might explain the missing factory cover plate on his bike.
Yes you are quite right. It seems so obvious once pointed out. Thank you 👍🏼
Id like to see a comparison with a much older bullet.
So would I. Unfortunately I don’t know anyone that owns one.
The o2 sensor was fitted from 2018 models onwards due to all bikes becoming efi. Getting ahead of euro5.
The twin spark idea is for a cleaner burn and also a more rapid burn giving more power on compression, so in theory Marks bike is quicker off the mark.
The heal toe is a pain I have found. Some like it.
You know how much I love those 500s. I still haven't ridden anything since that makes me feel the way those bikes do.
Still high on my buy next list. For years I wanted that feeling of being a kid on a bike, the 500 does that. The 350s don't.
Was that centre stand on a BMW 1200 LT? Huge bikes but brilliant. Until they go wrong!
Would you let anyone else wash it🤣🤣
I find the o2 sensor thing confusing, because although Marks is a 16’ model, it is still efi 🤔
I assume the Indian model runs a twin spark to handle lower grade fuel? I wondered if his would have any more power. We may have to investigate that further, with some 0-40 tests 🤣
Never had the pleasure of the heel toe shifter, but have been quite happy without one so far.
Nothing quite like the 500’s is there ER. They’re addictive I’m sure.
The self retracting stand was on Ken’s 850GS. I suppose the cylinder stops it falling too far 🤪
Thank you mate 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 ahh, I never knew they did them on the gs. Everyday is a school day 👍
@@exeterrider Yes it was a big BMW safety feature back in the day...... It allows you to crash without actually moving........ 😜
@@kenbrooks7794 Pah haaaa 🤣🤣👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 😁😁😝
P.S from Lester I think the number plate in India goes where the Royal Enfield Plate fits on at the front on our models. Cheers.
That makes sense!😉👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Lester! Yes a couple of people have said the same, so that’s more than likely the answer 👍🏼
That was a good watch. The Trials has a different set of bars that are slightly higher but looking at your two Id say they are the same. I’d like to see a set of Ace bars. They look good. Sidestand cut off switch on my trials is apparently a hybrid oof your two. Mine has AI . It chooses when it it appropriate to work! Actually I suspect it is dirt sensitive. I don’t allow anyone else to clean my Trials. Well I don’t even trust myself 😂.
Thanks CyL! Not familiar with Ace bars. I think a set of clip ons would be nice 🤪
Haa, I’ve heard the side stand switches can be temperamental, and some people disconnect them 🥴
Trials bikes are supposed to be dirty I suppose 😋
@@Saddlebags73 I’ve dmd you on Instagram an example of Ace Bars. They came before clip ons 😂
@@craigyllyn Thank you kindly 🙂
I've always thought that the twin spark engines were just a way the factory could feed into the Indians love of bling..........no real need for it, doesn't particularly improve performance......just sounds good when talked about.
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Ha maybe you’re right 🤷🏻♂️🙂
Hi,
I am planning to bring my classic 500 from India in next few weeks. The only thing I am worried about is having rear drum brakes.
From your experience what do you reckon about the maintenance of drum brake pads?
Where do you get these changed in UK?
Hi,
How amazing. Will you ride the bike here?
It’s been years since I fitted any drum brakes but I seem to remember it being quite a simple task. However if you aren’t confident in doing it yourself there is a good network of Royal Enfield dealers and service providers. A Google search should show them. You shouldn’t be too far from one wherever you are, hopefully.
Hi @@Saddlebags73,
First of all, thank you so much for replying in time.
And yes, I am planning to ride it here in UK. Actually I reached out to a couple of stores here in London, they seemed to have very little idea about availability of drum brake pads. That's what got me skeptical about all this in first place. Another work around I am thinking about is to get the rear drum brakes converted to disc ones in India itself before getting it shipped here. Let's see how it goes.
Also, I would love to meet you personally( once I have my motorbike here) if I ever get opportunity for the same.
Thanks🤗
You are very welcome Praveen.
That surprises me. I know of two or three RE dealers within an hour from me that could do it, but I’m a long way from London. I believe rear drum versions are quite common over here. Best of luck with it, whichever way you go.
Feel free to give me a shout if you’re in my area.
All the best 👍🏼
Think the missing front plate is where the Indian front number plate goes
You’re quite right 👌🏼 I can’t believe we hadn’t thought of that. We’ve all seen the Indian bikes with plates there 🤦🏻♂️
Mark’s bike even has the original Indian plate behind the rear UK plate.
check for the stock tyres... which brand are those...?? if its ceat or mrf its indian..!!
Both bikes fitted with Avon’s from new 👍🏼
Twin spark js a very good improuvment saves gas more power
Okay, thank you 👍🏼
I don't know anything about the bikes, other than they're some pretty. Great listening to you two talking about your bikes. Oh, I'd say the seat colour was "chicken korma" not something from a nappy🤣🤣
Perhaps a chicken korma once it’s found it’s way to a nappy!😂😂👍🏻
@@markhutchings8281 😂😂😂
@@markhutchings8281 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for watching EMA 👍🏼
Question SB do you get more pleasure out of riding your Enfield's than you did with Nikita or your latest big bike ? I ask this because I am at an age where I am starting to think that lighter and less power could be more enjoyable . Having said that I do still like having a good level of power for when I feel like flying but maybe not so much the weight of my 1200 Yam . How interesting that I have written this before watching this vid and I am thinking this has answered my question to a great extent . I think during my time riding I have had most fun on my old Z650 and a old GS 550 Suzuki 4 cylinder ,perhaps I should go back to that or maybe I will never find what I am seeking who knows fer me I am aware time is running out so am I just panicking because I do not have enough of it to try all that is out there and what it has to offer.😉👍 Good watch !!
Hi Crumblymal! No short answer to this.
The Classic 500 is the most fun I’ve had on a motorcycle since learning to ride my friends FS1E on a farm as a kid.
I made a couple of statements in very early videos on this bike, which I still stand by today.
1. This bike has rekindled a flame that I didn’t realise was going out.
2. On paper, this bike is terrible. In reality it’s probably the best bike I’ve ever owned.
It’s very hard to put into words, but almost everyone that owns one seems to feel the same way. They are charming and endearing, and raise a smile every time. As I said during the video, they feel vibrant and alive, and after owning one other bikes seem to be missing something.
Nikita (Z900rs) is a thrill, don’t get me wrong. But when just going out for fun, I have walked past her many times to jump on Ernie.
BUT…at the moment, I don’t think the Classic would work as an only bike. I still want a bigger bike for the longer rides. You are limited to some extent on the 500, as it’s happiest at 50-60mph, and much over that feels a bit of a strain. However, as I get older it may well suffice.
The Himalayan doesn’t have the same level of character, and I haven’t ridden a new 350 so couldn’t pass comment on that.
I would recommend anyone to try a 500, and would be surprised if they didn’t like it. I spent years of going bigger better faster more, only to find the most pleasure from this little, somewhat agricultural single cylinder.
I’ve reached my waffle quota for the week, and it’s only Tuesday 🤦🏻♂️
Many thanks my friend 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 Very interesting reply and I thank you my friend it's something I am going to be looking into and something I need to try in order to understand just what this interesting single has to offer Thank's for taking the time to answer my question .👌👍
@@crumblymal8479 you’re very welcome 👍🏼
mine did not have the chrome bar on top of the starter, 2018 model.
Thanks Ice! It’s getting more and more confusing 🤣 Was yours a chrome model?
@@Saddlebags73 odd isn't it, mine was the same as Bertie (TAYM) black model with cream details
The twin spark is because of the fuel quality and lower octane.
Thank you! That was my guess 👍🏼
I am from India I own classic 350 in bike I have front number plate and rear spleet seat
With more custom options
Very nice 👍🏼 I hope you are enjoying it.
no , the heel toe shifter is takes longer to move your foot , don't bother ,, the left hand side pannier guard is law in india [strange ]...
I don’t fancy the heel toe shifter. Mark has had some bones fused in his ankle and I thought the heel toe shifter may have been helpful for him, but he doesn’t like it either.
Ah I didn’t realise the sari guard was law over there.
Thanks my friend 👍🏼
Twins spark plugs are for better fuel economy and for pick up
Thank you! It’s a shame they didn’t equip the UK version with twin spark.
👍👍❤❤👌👌
🙏🏼🙂👍🏼
Thank you!
2 spark plugs per cylinder. Makes for better fuel consumption (lean burn) and optimized power production.
Thank you! Is there a reason that only the Indian model has twin spark?
@@Saddlebags73 yes..bcos fuel is expensive in India and lot of competition as india is mostly a commuter market.
@@deepakcheekoli5833 thanks again 👍🏼
Abs fitted when rear disc added.
I thought that would be the case 👍🏼
Hi two middle age men having fun in the sun , nice one , don,t get your dresses caught in the spokes . Stay up right and onwards .😉
Middle age? That’s generous ALL@SEA 🤣
Many thanks my friend 🙂👍🏼
Twin plugs for better burn efficiency.
Yes, I assume only on the Indian model because they use lower fuel grade over there 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I Brought a Royal Enfield Classic 500 mine i assume would be a U.K model though it doesn't cut out with the side stand so i have the same thing
Could it be that somebody has bypassed the cut out switch?
@@Saddlebags73 Possible i had a look under the bike and it looks like it has a wire going from the side stand with a we usb looking thing.
Oh and what also is strange is it has a rather weird sounding engine knock and it only has 19,000 kms on it
@@gideonhas6letters128 My guess would be somebody has bypassed it in that case. Should be easily reversed, maybe in need of a new switch.
Not sure about the knock though 🥴
Any difference to performance?
That’s a good question! Personally I’ve only ridden my Indian model so I really don’t know the answer, I honestly hadn’t even thought about it but I am now!🤔🤔👍🏻
I wondered if the twin spark gives it a boost. Perhaps we’ll have to do some 0-60 tests 🤔Well, perhaps 0-40 would be more appropriate 🙂
@@Saddlebags73 0-40 would definitely be more appropriate,however there’s the power to weight ratio to take into account as well! You’ll have to ride both bike’s against the clock!😉👍🏻👍🏻
Or we just agree that it doesn’t matter 🤷🏻♂️🤣
@@Saddlebags73 😂🤣😂🤣👍🏻indeed!
I have a locking round fuel cap that came off my bullet if anyone’s interested? Splendiferous it’s wonderful! 😏
Very kind 🙏🏻
Should have crashbars on both bikes.
Hmm, unlike personal protection I think that’s down to the individual. I have considered fitting crash bars but find them quite unsightly. However, I might change my mind at some point (hopefully before I drop it) 🤣
@@Saddlebags73l dropped my Sportster in the driveway and even with crash bars on l had to get help with it.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 Yes I imagine that’s a lump 🥴
@@Saddlebags73 yes it's quite heavy and it was at a steep incline which makes it harder to get it back on her wheels.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 Ah yes, a friend dropped his 1150 Beemer last year. Sidelong on a hill. Even with the boxer cylinder sticking out and preventing it from laying flat, it was a struggle for two of us.
'would you let anyone else wash it?'...........' are you mental?'.
The best reaction 🤣
I asked because I wouldn’t let anyone was any of my bikes. I wondered if it was just me. Obviously not hahaa 👌🏼
What tyre do you use
Avon’s were fitted from new, and I’ll replace with the same.
@@Saddlebags73
What size wheels are on your Enfields ?
And what type of Avon tyres are you talking about ?
I have an SR500 Yamaha with 19" front and 18" rear
My tyre of choice the old style Avon Road Runner are now hard to find, if you're lucky might still find a nineteen for the front but you can only get Harley sizers for the rear
Dunlop TTs wear too quickly and now the Metzler "Perfect" ME77s I have been using are also getting hard to find here in Australia
@@hodaka1000 If I remember rightly it’s 18” front and rear. The Avon’s have been superseded by the Roadrunner 2’s which seem almost identical. I have only had to change a rear so far.
@@Saddlebags73
"Avon Road Runner 2"
That's what the Enfields come with from factory ?
Right I can get them here
Thanks for getting back to me
@@Saddlebags73
A couple of years ago I paced a young fella on an Enfield 500 from the Ulmarra Ferry along the Clarence River to Lawrence (Google it)
I was pleasantly surprised at just how well his Enfield performed
I thought my 1978 SR500 would've flogged him but the bikes were neck and neck
What? Don’t have to be fast to have fun???? Well I’ll be…. Why did I buy a 1400 then?
It came as a shock to me too, Chewie. But riding one of these is like being a kid again 🙂
Thank you mate 👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 hmmm. A kid you say. 😉
Pah haaaa 🤣 Yep
@@Saddlebags73 I must investigate. Maybe a 250 two stroke dirt bike😉
@@hachewie Oh yes! That would certainly enter the fun category 😃
After watching your video I searched for some differences between the export and local version, and it seems that among other things there's the difference in paint quality. Watch this New Zealandar enquiring about the differences...
czcams.com/video/5KWOyPMJ_-4/video.html
Thank you! That’s very interesting and I enjoyed the video linked 🙂👍🏼
@@Saddlebags73 keep posting new videos.
He made the plate out of Ali? Painful
🤣🤣🤣
Its not indian model of classic dude 🙄🙄
No side stand cut off switch, twin horns, twin spark, sari guard and many other differences suggest otherwise.
Oh, forgot to mention that the original Indian number plate was under the UK plate.
@@Saddlebags73 No bro I live in India our classic model is entirely different