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- The kubota B2601 compact tractor has gained some experience now using both the BECO land plane and the BECO box blade. Many subscribers have asked to see a comparison between the two attachments. In this two-part series, I take both through an old road in bad need of grading and repair. Leave the city and come along with me up at the cottage to see how each performs under similar conditions. Here in the outdoors. Cheers!
#kubota #landplane #boxblade
I'm in Nevada and I know the pain of throwing rocks from a roadbed made of mountain. Thanks for the video post!
Our road is pretty much all (free-ish) gravel that came out of a creek. There's every size of rock you can imagine, and grading the road is a challenge. Watching you hop on and off the tractor to toss the large rocks is a dance I've made a number of times. I used to toss the large rocks into the woods like you, but I started throwing them in my bucket and dumping them into a pile. I've found that those larger rocks help me fill in the particularly deep washes later on. Thanks! Love these videos! --Mike
Good day Mike and thanks for the great idea. Another subscriber suggested the same thing. I need to start doing that. Even if I don't use them for the deep areas, I could add them to my rock wall. Thanks again and all the best!
Great project...Really like the ripper business shots down low...
Hey GP, for those pole holes, you need to break up the compacted walls with those scarifiers. Just filling in the low spots with a few passes will be good for a while but the pot holes will for back in the same location in a season or two. The Roads look great after the land plane!
Hey good evening Kyle. I agree with you. I told them they need to get several truckloads of gravel in, so hopefully they will. Thanks for the note and enjoy the weekend!
Great job GP and just the kind of comparison I was hoping to see. That lane plane did a very impressive job, given what it had to work with. Looking forward to part 2... Cheers!
Good morning Dave! Good stuff. Many people asked for the comparison so I couldn't give up the opportunity to work on that road. Stay tuned and have a great weekend!
Man that was some footage you got there GP. I never knew the land plane had scarifiers. That did an awesome job my friend. Your handy work is gonna be appreciated. Thanks for sharing GP.
Good morning Dean. Thanks - happy you enjoyed it. It eventually did but it sure took a long time. Let's see how the box blade does in the next video. Stay tuned. Have a great weekend Dean!
That thing did a pretty decent job considering the hard pack of that road. You guys live in some beautiful country!! Cheers!
Thanks Kap! I'm still learning but getting a little better each time. Cheers and hope you and the missus are doing great!
Great work GP. I saw your first few passes and thought he's not even going to make a dent in that but you proved me wrong.
Morning JE. LOL. Me too but I have learned over the few years that it takes a lot of passes but eventually it starts looking better. But the first several passes always kind of looks like I am making it worse . :)) Cheers!
Good evening Sir ! Very well done road work !!! The road look much better nice camera angles !!! Keep up the good work GP !!! Cheers !!!
Thanks Dave! Have a great weekend!
The land plane sure look like making a great job.
The travellers of that road are very appreciative of your commitment to the cause. I must say you are not working with much road material and you did a fantastic job for what it was. I don't believe in criticizing anyone that's trying to help that will resolve nothing. From experience years of learning mostly the hard way I can assure you the pothole is a very devilish opponent. I believe this issue will return however I also believe you already know this also. What I have learned and as mentioned mostly the hard way is and a lot of help from those who do for a living. A solid 4-6 base of rounds road rock / also called deck rock and then an additional 4-6 inches of 2a limestone down to dust. All dropped in 2 inch incriminates is the ticket. You need a good crown and ditch to the topography of the land. I can tell you very I don't fight the pothole yearly and the land plane is the ticket. I re dress the road with 2a down to dust stone every 5 years. Excellent quality video and well done.
Good evening and thanks Hughie, I couldn't agree more. I explained a similar thing to the good folks there and explained that if they didn't truck in some good gravel soon that they would end up with the exact same result come spring. But hey, I was able to help a little for now - that road is in pretty brutal shape. So I got the potholes and ruts out... for now. But I agree with you - they will be back pretty quick without some proper gravel. Thanks and I appreciate the great info you shared. Have a great weekend!
Excellent video and music to boot. Great work on that road....
Thanks Erick! All the best!
GP nice of you to take care of their pothole issues.
Good morning GP! Hmm... land plane or box blade... I guess I can’t decide until I see part 2! Great work! Enjoyed the land plane cam views. Very cool! Cheers1
LOL. Yup coming soon. Cheers DIY!
GP it is all your fault. After seeing all the fun you've been having I had to go out and get a B2601-1. Love it. Thanks for the many tutorials teaching me how to use it. I'm in Ontario as well (snowbelt of Owen Sound area) so I look forward to taking on snow this season. You should get a referral fee from Kubota. :)
LOL! Congratulations Dr! That's great news. Happy you are enjoying it. I think you'll get plenty of use this winter - I have a feeling we will be getting a lot of snow. Enjoy it and be safe! Let me know how it is going from time to time. Cheers!
That is great! I like doing that for neighbor's driveways. The even if the county roads are maintained, sometimes I got out and regrade it a bit to get rid of the washboard that develops in the small hilly curve we have. Needless to say, there is very nice gravel on it and it's easy to maintain. In your case, I would have used the rear blade with an angle to get back the material from the side to the center. But it's based on what we see on the video. In reality, we sometimes feel the situation differently! Thanks for sharing GP!
Oops, forgot to mention. Using the back blade to dig and put back some material on center of the road, but definitely using the landplane after that!
Hey good morning Joe. Yes, I was considering it but wanted to provide a reasonably similar comparison between the two units and I figured that assisting it with the rear blade would not have provided a fair comparison. Stay tuned for part 2. Cheers!
GP that was some packed road. I watched the video after dinner so I grabbed a beer instead! Great video. Thanks
LOL Good morning Michael. I needed one after that long day myself. Thanks and have a great weekend!
GP,
Here's a suggestion, cut a deal next time where someone follows you and throws the rocks off that you bring up. Love your video's.
LOL! I'd take that deal. Cheers!
Thanks for making this video. I’m making the step up from a TG1860 to a B or BX series this summer. Gotten to the point that I need that three point hitch. Looking forward to part 2.
Good stuff Derek. If you have a few acres or more, then I would go bigger than the BX. Good tractor but big jump in capacity and ability between the bx and the B. My brother has a bx for his 1 1/2 acres and it works great for him ( flat, open land - no forest) but with the B, you get much more ground clearance, lift capacity on the FEL and on the 3 point, more weight etc. Worth taking a good look at both. Good luck with the decision!
Compare the BX to MF GC or Kioti CS. Ended up with a MF. Larger displacement, higher pump output, & dual bucket tilt cylinders. Actually looked at LS, RK, NH, JD, & Yanmar too. If I had gone up in size, I probably would have gotten a Kubota L2501HS or the LS XJ2025H.
You have it looking much better. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Walter! Have a great weekend!
Great job GP! Love the music now wish I could find it on Itunes someplace! From Minnesota to Canada. CHEERS!
LOL. Cheers and thanks Rob ( from MN). !
Good work 👍
Fall is in the air! Ive been working a ton on my homestead as well! with this nice weather! Enjoy this weather! I love my box blade, I dont have a land plane but the box blade works for what i need it too! Nice work!
Cheers Jay! Keep smiling!
@@GPOutdoors Thank you! Have a good weekend!
Another great video GP cheers buddy!
Thanks Saw Junky! All the best to you!
By golly that looks like the road back to wild goose lake
Good job on the different POV's and keeping the tractor audio going on the speed ramps.
Thanks 👍
Lots of hard work! Good job young man. 😉
The landplane did a better job then I thought it would on that road. Need the weight of that box blade and it should hold up nicely!! Have a good week my friend!!
Good morning John. Yes it diid very well - just took a while longer but good finish on the surface. Keep smiling and all the best!
Nice action, GP. I need to do the same on my gravel road. I keep putting it aside but the ruts always remind me that it's time to get busy. Enjoyed a full watch.
Good stuff Houndsman. And it will make for a good video too. I'll look for it. Cheers!
Nice job GP, cheers
Cheers Roy!
hope you don't mind another subscriber from NovaScotia, been watching for some time and just now thought to push the button....lol....canadians what a bunch, keep up the good work of keeping it real and wish I had a guy like guy around too.
Welcome and thanks Michael! Happy to have you join the gang here. Yup, Guy is one in a million, no doubt. Have a great week and thanks for tuning in!
Man, you've had a wet summer, seems as if every episode is threatening rain! Excellent as always GP
Good evening Trackdog. It has been an unusual summer for sure. No lie. I don't go more than two days without rain here this summer. Very odd. So you kind of have to get the work done between rain clouds. You see them coming on the horizon and start working quicker to hope you finish before it hits. LOL. Be well!
Nice job! Looks great!
GP you should open a insurance business... Cause Like a Good Neighbor GP is There .... My hats off to you...Good neighbor, good people
LOL. Good day and thanks kindly William. They are good folks and I was happy to get more practice learning how to use the attachments. Have a wonderful weekend and thanks again for the kind comments!
Few people realize that stone deteriorates over time do to traffic, grading and weather. Few know the importance of maintaining good ditch lines. Even some department of highways.
Yup, I think so Bryan. My friend is an excavator and he has always said it is better to do a little maintenance every year than to wait years until it is badly neglected and have to invest a large $$$ to try to fix it all. Have a good one!
@@GPOutdoors I was a surface mine supervisor until I retire a few years ago. In 2010 our budget for limestone was 50,000 dollars a mouth. Just for the main coal haulage roads. If I remember correctly on the price per ton at the time it was around 3,200 ton per month.
Looking good ! 👏👍🤠
Thank you! Cheers!
A decade? Wow! Usually when roads become that hard packed, the gravel will raise to the surface as you grade. Didn’t look like enough gravel was there to do that. Tough job GP, looking forward to part 2.
Good morning John. Been a while and it turned out I couldn't see much gravel left on it at all. I learned alot working on it though so was a good experience. Thanks and all the best!
GP Outdoors I’ll bet it was educational. All the best to you as well! Been busy getting the farm going but it’s looking good now!
How's she goin'? The land plane has done a nice job here GP. With the scarifiers down I think the land plan works pretty well and you won't need the box blade. Looking forward to next part to see what the box blade does!! Take care
Good day Grampie! Stay tuned - it's coming. Just about to check in on the deck build after I refill my cup. Cheers!
I would start with a grader blade with lots of angle and cut it deep then use a drag or box blade to smooth and level the loose material, something that carry some dirt and cut some high spots and it dump in low spots and could float on the ground.
Thanks Ric. Some good advice. Have a great week!
New to the channel, great footage of a job well done sir. I will be visiting regularly.. thanks
Good morning and thanks very much GSL! Welcome to the channel! I appreciate the support. Have a great week out there - lots of lawns to manicure! Cheers!
Very good job GP. It didn't have near the number of larger rocks I expected and the land plane did just as it should. As you know, a lot of the gravel that doesn't get beat into the substrate gets tossed to the outside by the tires of the passing vehicles. So though there are many techniques, the first thing I do is turn the outside into the middle with a tilted and angled blade. (I don't have a land plane lol). That process, just like you did with this one, begins the process for building a crown and drags up the material you need. The fact remains though, that you use the tool or combination of tools available that provides the desired result, because each roadbed will be different. Great job, awesome video and I am sure you are going to have happy neighbors when you are done.....now about that roller.....
LOL! That roller would have come in handy again. I like the process you described - works well on my driveway so far. Keep smiling T!
I just found your channel. Although I have a green toy you can't go wrong with either brand.
I like your content and subscribed.
Good evening and welcome to the channel Liffy! Thanks very much. All colours are good - LOL - just enjoy being outside and learning how to use them. Thanks for joining- have a great week!
💥 You really got a workout doing that job. That took longer than you probably though. Do you think it would have been quicker if you would’ve started with a box blade and finished with the landplane?
Looking much better. 👍
Keep on tractoring!
LOL. Jon, you will have to wait for Part 2. LOL. I can't give you the sneak preview yet. LOL. Cheers!
awesome equipment thanks
Cheers and thanks Mike!
Nice video 👍
Great work GP, I hope your neighbours appreciate what you did, it look great. I must say though that the road before you started looked like a freeway compared to the dirt road up to my driveway.
LOL! Good morning Mark. Yes indeed. Good folks there and happy to get some practice in on the equipment. I just hope they get some gravel in or I think it will end up the same way come spring. Have a great weekend!
Nice Iam jealous you have something like that to take care of. I get bored and go brush hog my neighbors property alot. Anyways good video can't wait for the boxblade part and to see how it all turns out.
LOL! I know what you mean Shaun. I just go talk to neighbours and see what I can do for them. It provides lots of variety for me to practice using different parts of the tractor. Cheers!
Too bad it didn't have a rock collector between the scarifiers and the blades. Or an assistant to pick rocks behind you. Ahhh the farming memories.... picking rocks.
Well GP it seems that you did a pretty good job.......stay safe my friend and have a good weekend........ :)
You too Don! Cheers!
I saw a used land plane to day and thought about you:)
I use a 12inch I-beam about 6 feet long. Chain it behind tractor at about a 35 degree angle and drag it down the road. Drag it down half road and back on other side and done.
Thanks Mark. Sounds like a good, effective solution. A few folks had a similar suggestion but also added that they add a length of chain link fencing to it, too. Appreciate the idea. Have a good week and thanks again!
Not always effective if the road has not been maintained - my road is rock hard from lack of grading (hasn't been done in 12 years, gravel is just dropped I'm the potholes once a year). A neighbor tried the ibeam trick and all it did was skip along the surface.
GP we have kind of the same problem down here too. People living on old pulpwood roads, the counties are about the same here too. That's why my buddy Carl, a retired Army Corps of Engineer rebuilt the old rock crusher. An with his little box like Guys, he makes the big one more crush-able. To end one question from 9 year old Andy B. when dose it start snowing again, for some reason they love watching your snow-blower white lines on the trees.
Hey good morning Howard. Thanks for sharing. I was not sure if it was only up here or not. Say hi to young Andy for me. :)) He will start to see little snows in late October and usually by mid November he will see some bigger snowfalls that will last thereafter. I will try to include some shots of snowfalls in some videos for him as well. LOL. All the best to you both!
I've sent Andy mom a text with his answer, he'll get it this evening when she gets home from work. Now from Carl Q&A: did you after finishing with the box blade did you go back the land plane & tough up. Before spreading the wood chips. Same someone's got a honey do list request. LOL! See you on #197.
I use my box with scarifies all the way down, tear it with a bunch of passes. Then switch to my land plane (no scarifiers) start to level with a little tilt to add crown. Then lay her flat and smooth it out.
Morning J! That sounds lIke a great idea. I wish I had tried that. I think that would have worked really nicely - especially on that road. Thanks for the great idea. All the best!
Hey GP, good job on the drive way, anxious to see how you get finished with the box blade. Still think you and Guy should get a rock crusher and start mining your rocks and sell the crushed gravel 😂. You are doing good and helping out around there. Good luck and thanks for sharing with us.
guided one if you had watched and paid attention you would have seen the YELLOW one is the land plane and GP said the next video would be with the box blade ( the red one)
Good day ODD. I think we could make a few $$ with it for sure.LOL. Thanks - stay tuned for the next episode. And have a good one ODD!
Hey good morning Guided One. Yes, they can look kind of similar but this more flat-looking one is the land plane. You'll see the box blade in the next video. Thanks for watching and all the best!
That road is nicer then our government roads here in WV even before you repair it.
LOL! Cheers!
Never start a tractor from anywhere but the operator's seat. #1 tractor safety rule.
Thanks Ryan. Very good advice and a bad habit I have to get out of. Cheers and all the best!
Here in Colorado I have 80 acres, one side of my fence line has a road on it. Weld county maintains the right of way to this road if they wish to, that is to say, if they want to put a road through there they have the option to but then they also have the responsibility to maintain it , if not , I maintain it since it legally is my property. Maybe it's like that where you are as well.
Good evening Donald. It may be. I have not ever looked into it but it may be the same. I thought it was kind of odd since so many folks live there. But perhaps at some point I will check into it more to understand it. Cheers and thanks!
sadly you will find that you may have to limit your good Samaritanship as rarely does it help with the cost of upkeep on you equipment. Nice job!
Good job but what i see is the land plane is way to light for that job. It seems to bounce all the time. The 7' bx blade I used was 750lbs - makes a big difference. I was able to do 1/2 mile in about 4 hours. I used to use a 6' rear blade and same thing..too light... What does your box blade weigh? I'll be looking for part 2.
Good day NB! They both weigh about 450 but as I mention in part 2, I think because the weight is more concentrated with the box blade, the scarifiers and the unit seems to do the job much more efficiently. Stay tuned! Have a great weekend!
What about for dragging snow. To pull snow away from tight places. Box blade or rear blade. Thanks Mate...
Morning Allen. Rear Blade for me! Cheers!
Ditch by each side of road please, rain water must have option go off road. Otherwise road will be messy all life.
Good job, didn't look like it working very well.
Your land plane was improperly leveled to scarify. The front should be lower than the rear... not even or level. The weight of the implement will be concentrated on the scarifier teeth. Shorten your top link. This is where a hydraulic Top Link really comes in handy because you can adjust on the fly.
Nice job. Seems like the people that live on the road could have helped pick rocks. Why do you need the box blade looks pretty good to me👍
Good morning Tony. Thanks! This section is done. I am going to do the next section of 225 feet but with the box blade so folks can see how each one performed on a similar surface. A number of subscribers were asking for comparison videos. Have a good one!
Good stuff GP! Subscribed :)
Are your scarifiers still in the 3rd lowest position at the 4:54 mark of the video or had you raised them up at that point? I see they're only making contact with the ground sporadically.
Good morning GoodWorks! I started with them higher and then dropped them to the third deepest and left them there until I lifted them out altogether. LOL. You see it missing because the road is so uneven - the camera doesn't pick up the undulations very well but it took a lot of passes to finally get down deep enough that they were digging throughout. I learned a lot doing this. It was good foe me to experience working on a surface so uneven and with such deep potholes and ruts. Thanks for joining the channel! All the best!
Wow, I guess I'm glad I bought a motor grader. I really wanted a plane like this, but this thing is nothing but a toy. it needs weight, and adjustable mold boards. I could do that road better with a landscape rake in many fewer passes
Morning Integrate. Well I am certainly not the best at it - still learning. But yes, more weight would be helpful for sure and a little more experience. Thanks for watching and all the best!
@@GPOutdoors Well based on what I know from using a grader there are a few things I would do differently if I built one. first is like I said make the mold boards adjustable both in depth and angle of attack, second they should be angled in opposite directions so you move dirt from the center of the road out, then back to crown the road the trailing edge of the last blade should be highest to feather the material out, and unless the road is sand it needs more weight. Thanks for the post though, it gave me some insight
G P looks good but can it last with so little gravy we find must have gravy or crushed lime hope you can fix it
God Bless
PaK
Good evening Peter. They definitely need to drop a lot of gravel on that road or it will end up looking the same as when I started. Hopefully they will. Cheers my friend!
Enjoy the video GP ON the land plane but why it bonsting aroud not enought wieth .on it .
Good morning Leo. I noticed it does bounce around - it is 450 lbs so I guess perhaps all the rocks it is hitting are causing it to jump around as I go. Have a good weekend!
Curious, I think box blade might be better suited due to smaller dimensions, and a PRESUMABLY heavier weight to dig in easier. As far as skipping over some of those rocks, I think a box blade would have been a bit more resistant to that and allowing it to roll along with the other debris instead of leaving rock to pick up later? Now I HAVE TO WATCH the other video....ggrrreeaatttt👍😂👍
LOL! Too funny - thanks Steve. I think you have some very good observations that I agree with there. But I wouldn't want to ruin the ending.... Cheers!
Brutal on your kit, I felt it’s pain breaking that crust.
Not sure if it’s because my land plane is a 6’ and heavier or the way you have yours adjusted.. Mine seems to cut a lot better and I have yet to need the scarifies . I live in the foothills of the Appalachia’s in VA USA
Morning Chris. Thanks for the comment this morning. Most likely me, I had very little experience using it at the time. Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend!
Love your videos! I have a 2601 what size is your box blade? I have a 4 footer from my older tractor but seems a bit small for my 2601. Thanks Jeff
Thanks Jeff! It is a 60 inch. The dealer told me that the grading equipment should extend a bit outside the width of the tractor (past the wheels). So my blade is a 72 inch. Hope that helps. Cheers!
Most of the gravel you will find in the ditch. the first pass should have been with a angled bald 6" - 12" off the road to pull the gravel back.
Good morning Joseph. Another subscriber suggested the same thing. Thanks for the advice - If I get to work further on it, I will give it a try for sure. Cheers and all the best!
GP!
LOL!
@@GPOutdoors Another good video. Why do you need to bring in the box blade after that?
I always enjoy your videos GP. That road looked much better when the video finished, but I'm concerned that this job may turn Into one of those " no good dead goes unpunished". I sure hope not but it's a gut feeling.
Have a great weekend sir!
Good morning and thanks Bill! I sure hope not - Have a great weekend!
It's 7:59 p.m. Way too late for a coffee
LOL!
Did you have your 3 point hitch set all the way down?
Morning Carmine. I do indeed. When finishing the last few runs I will sometimes lift it slightly off the ground so it will catch any remaining uneven area but maintain the overall grade level. Good luck!
Great vid, looked like the landplane did a great job although I’m waiting on the comparison as I own a boxblade lol
Yeah part 2 will be interesting. This was a good video, looking forward to watching both of them to see how it turns out 👍..and I only have a boxblade too. Lol
Good day and thanks Whiskies! I should have it out for Monday. Stay tuned! Cheers!
Well, depending on job requirements first. Each will be the best for job the implement is designed for. I'll go with a boxscraper first on most any grading, leveling, ripping, counterweight and use in tight quarters. To me a land grader isn't as useful. It's too big, can't do a large dig & carry operations, needs too much room to turn around.
Hey good morning Andrew! Good to hear from you. Some good advice and information there. Did you sneak a look at my part 2 video? LOL. Coming out in a couple of days. Hope all is going well for you. Cheers and thanks again for the great points, as always.
@@GPOutdoors didn't mean to let the "cat out of the bag". Sorry if I did. I'll see how you conclude with part 2.
LOL. No worries at all Andrew. All good. Cheers!
- I am a real farmer -- I tend to many many feet of roadway every month -- it needs a 9 tooth heavy tiller at about 5 - 6 in deep - used to stir up rock and dirt -- or even a small 7 foot disk - and remove big rocks - they dont help - they make worse -- they cause ruts -- if needed - railroad rock should be used - half the size of mushed baseballs l -- or lots of 57s -- gravel the size of golf balls -- -- and then a drag as yu used -- a real - old fashioned drag works best - it will need to be maintained about 3 times a year for best results - crush and run -- as yu are dealing with -- with very little rock - as it is called in quarry's -- is not a good thing in that situation - would need too much maintenance - a crown and ditches may would help depending on rain fall -- it could make things worse -- always washing gravel in ditches -- railroad rock and or 57s work well enough -- the crush - gravel sand - as it is sometimes known -- turns to dirt when dirt is incorporated - not a good thing -- I use railroad rocks where heavy equipment - such as diesel trucks and tractors are used -- makes a much better base than crush - and 57s to cap off - will take a few months to settle in though - will need reshaping around that time ! - box blades and such - work better in already well established drives -- I have many decades involved -- hahahaha --- dealers and companies make money from misinterpretations of equipment -- and miracle easy fixes with super equipment - are few and far in-between -- all depends on surface materials - vehicles involved - and weather conditions ! ! ! -- or they can just get use to driving on a crappy road way -- hahahahaha
Hi..I enjoy your videos. I'm mostly retired, and a little bored sometimes. I'm thinking of buying a smaller tractor to offer seasonal driveway grading and repair services. Equipment would include a loader tractor/dump trailer, pickup tow truck, and box blade implement. I've been looking at tractors in the 25hp/+-2000lb range (sim to yours), but at least one dealer has warned me that I will need more tractor weight/HP (more cost), to be effective. Your videos seem to show otherwise. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Good morning Terry. I think that's a great idea to get outdoors, stay active and will keep you busy working your own property and for others. Interesting question. Let me offer a few of my thoughts and please remember, I am certainly not an expert but here are my thoughts. He is correct that the B series or any tractor in this size class, does not weigh very much and I have found that weight is an important consideration for sure. I think it weighs about 2,000 lbs all in. I find it does my work well - I have been able to do about 95% of anything I have attempted to do. Grading driveways and driveway repair is not an issue for it, on the small scale that I do it. Blowing and blading snow etc and all the many other things you have seen me do- all good. However, it does not dig very well in our hard and rocky soil. not enough power and not enough weight to be able to dig into the ground with the bucket for example. It digs in with the grapple very well but that is because the grapple has teeth or tines on the bottom which break up the ground well. I can't dig out stumps very well unless the stump is old and rotted, for example. Fortunately, I don't dig a lot with the bucket so it has not been a big concern for me. The second thing to consider is ground clearance and width or footprint. The B series tractor is a "narrow" tractor (on purpose), so I chose it because I wanted to be more nimble and be able to sneak around through the forest easier and it does that very well. But because it is more narrow, I also have to manage how I drive or traverse the terrain because it is not as stable as wider tractors are. The bucket is small on it because it is a small tractor so when I go get my gravel dumped off, I have to make many more trips down the driveway spreading the gravel than I would otherwise if I had a bigger tractor and bigger lift capacity and bucket. Lastly, you may notice I don't dump or put many things into my little pickup truck. It is because the tractor, being a smaller tractor, does not lift too high - I can get it above the side walls of my truck bed but being smaller, it does not have the reach forward to get over the bed without coming too close or hitting the side of the truck. So that being said, yes I love the tractor and for me and most all my needs, it does what I need and I am very happy with it after almost 2 1/2 years now, but if I were to start doing some work as you are thinking about, I would for sure go for a larger, heavier tractor, with a wider footprint, more lift capacity and power, to be able to dig and drag my grading equipment easier or with more ability, and longer reach and power for the front end loader, and most likely would get a back hoe option for it, for sure, as I am sure you will run into jobs where you need to dig or manage the grading of the roads or driveways more effectively so a back hoe would probably be a necessity. Sorry for such a long response Terry but hope it was a little helpful. Wish you all the best and thanks for tuning in!
@@GPOutdoors Wow, what a great response! I'm dairy farm 'kid' so I knew my way around tractors (50 yrs ago:). Our loader tractor then was a JD1020. The JD1020 was +-2.5 ton/35hp/2WD. Even that class of loader tractor really wasn't very effective at digging out dirt that wasn't previously loosened or piled. Maybe dirt digging is sort've the limitation for AG type tractor/loaders. I can imagine that front wheel assist is helpful with many tasks, but front wheels might lose traction fairly quickly as loader digging effort is increased. In this scenario tractor weight/HP is certainly a friend:) Thanks again/T
@@GPOutdoors I notice your tractor has so-called industrial tires. What was the consideration there, as compared to more aggressive AG tires?
Hi Terry , you bet - they are R4 tires. I chose them because I have about 3/4 acre of lawn and as well, I often help my neighbour cut his lawns so my understanding was that the AG tires would cause damage to the lawns in the summer, which I believe to be true. The R4 tires have been good to the lawns so far. But in wet weather they will still tear it up a bit if I am turning sharply on the lawn. Hope that helps!
@@GPOutdoors Makes sense/thx
I would pick the land plane; a good grade will make any road last longer.
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Thanks BB!
Nice job GP! What is a Concession Road? I have been wondering since you first used that term and keep forgetting to ask! And it looks like your rain just keeps coming! You might be in for a real snowy winter! Do you have your chains yet?
Good morning Chad! I was thinking the same thing. Better get my warm clothes ready. Great question - brings me back to history class. A Concession Road is basically a country road, so to speak. Way back, the government would split up crown (government-owned) land into 100 acre parcels (usually) and give them to people to build homes and to farm ( that was generally the deal - you had to agree to build a home and to farm the land in order to be awarded a 100 acre parcel). In order to access the parcels of land , the government would build a road through or across the parcels so people could get to their parcels of land - a "Concession Road'. Today you will still see the street signs still showing the numbered concession road as it's name and in some places, like where I am, the concession road has since been renamed. Interestingly though, in my case, even though my road has a proper name now, I still have to input the Concession Road number into a Map or GPS system in order for it to be found - the GPS doesn't recognize the titled name. Sorry, a little long-winded. LOL. ON the chains - I have been doing some digging , including some discussion with Joe Lesage and actually just called a few companies for quotes this past week. A little more expensive than I thought but I will be ready for the winter! Have a great weekend!
Interesting on the Concession Roads! I didn't realize that it was related to the parceling out of land. Here in NY we have township, county, and state roads along with private ones. Then you do have a few roads like the one you were working on where no one wants to claim them or they have been let go by the government.
And yeah chains are not cheap. One trick it to go to the highway department and see if they have any old plow chains they are junking. They usually throw them out with a lot of life left on them for use on a tractor. The roads just eat them up. You have to adjust them for width and length but that isn't too hard.
Beauty eh? Cheers!
Cheers Tom!
I think they need more gravel you did a great job but first couple days of rain it will wash away your work
Good day Richard. I told them the same thing. Hoping they get some gravel in before winter. All the best!
I don't think your cold there. Are you using your glow plugs to start? 🤔🤔🤔
LOL. I always pre-warm the tractor up before I begin filming. But the temperature is dropping daily now here. Have a great weekend Tom!
@@GPOutdoors good chance of burning up glow plugs too. If you want to warm up before a shot, have the engine running before hand. I'd think it'd be kind of expensive to replace glow plugs and hope pieces arent burnt off landing in the cylinders. 🤔🤔🤔
Great advice - thanks Tom! Makes alot of sense. Cheers!
Do you like your 2601???
Good day James. Yes indeed - still very happy with it after 2 1/2 years now. Thanks for tuning in!
Why decide? I bought a box blade. Then built a land plane...
Box or reg grader blade 2 or 3 passes at most would never waste big pile of money on land plane
Donnie Bargo they are too expensive, I built my own, ripped off EAs design. Used 10” c-channel for the sides, 4x4 L channel for the cutters, & 3” square for the structure. Got most of it as scrap for free, used 4# of flux core, bought some 3” flat stock to cap the ends of the c-channel at 45 degrees, quart of rustoleum rusty metal primer, & a quart of sunrise red. 40” long x 60” wide - $50 & about 10 hours. Used a Lincoln 180 240v flux core, put a bunch heat into all the structural steel, triple passed everything. Guessing it weighs 300#.
Donnie Bargo they are too expensive, I built my own, ripped off EAs design. Used 10” c-channel for the sides, 4x4 L channel for the cutters, & 3” square for the structure. Got most of it as scrap for free, used 4# of flux core, bought some 3” flat stock to cap the ends of the c-channel at 45 degrees, quart of rustoleum rusty metal primer, & a quart of sunrise red. 40” long x 60” wide - $50 & about 10 hours. Used a Lincoln 180 240v flux core, put a bunch heat into all the structural steel, triple passed everything. Guessing it weighs 300#.
I thing I'm gonna build a land pane .
LOL. Cheers Jason. Maybe wait for part 2....:))
@@GPOutdoors ok
Un-assumed road? Here in Vermont, it's called a class 4 road... In the small town I live in here in n. central, Vt. that means little to ZERO road maintenance by the road crew for the 3/4 mi. stretch I live on, including the last 1/4 mi of class 3 ( they will not plow it ) for a total of 1 mi. Towns receive state aid for class 3 dirt roads in VT. You were asked to do only what U are doing, meaning U were asked by the town? I also assume your town is NOT compensating you for your time & efforts, fuel, equip. maintenance, etc. I maintained the 1 mi. stretch I live on for the 1st (11) years living here. 80% of the hours on my tractor & implements are from maintaining a town road. NO MORE, that ended in 2011 & for the past (8) years, U guessed it, the road looks like S**T! It is a thoroughfare road that the ENTIRE town uses on a regular basis, that is until the snow flies! In my (11) years of keeping it open ALL year so ALL residents in town could use it, NEVER a thank you, NEVER an offer of compensation from the town, NEVER a pat on the back for a job well done, at my expense...
My point here Gord is U will find out in short order how the hours will add up on your equip. ( not to mention wear & tear ) & if there is NO compensation in the wings from the town, U will in all eventualities be forced to rethink maintaining a " town road "... It took (11) years for me to come to this realization! My taxes are due on Tues. ( 2 days away ) Ironic isn't it?
Cheers,
Bill on the Hill,
Vermont, USA... :~)
Hey good evening BOTH! That's a shame - sorry to hear. That's awfully unreasonable. I can understand how you must feel. Up here , it is actually fully unassumed. No town vehicle has ever touched it. It is literally managed 100% by the residents who live on it - totally. I appreciate the good advice though and will keep it in mind as I go forward. Thanks Bill - have a great week and all the best! Pretty son I think old man winter will be calling. Cheers!
He said “oat doors”! Lol
I think he meant to say “outdoors”. 🤔
LOL. I think I might have. Have a good weekend GJ!
Time to call in someone with a grader. Don’t kill your equipment!
never ever start a tractor by not being on top. If gear is on it will start moving..
Great advice Alos - thanks so much. Cheers and all the best to you!
Legthen
Lengthen your top link, your rear cutting edge is not touching.
My been drop the shoes down a touch.
Adjust the shoes so that the land plane creates the crown in the road. This is fun I own Woods 84" and love it. Enjoy your channel!
Thanks for the great tips Brian! I appreciate it. Take care and thanks for tuning in!