BMW E39 E46 E53 Android Stereo Install: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
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- BMW E39 E46 E53 Android Stereo Install: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW
A lot of people keep asking about 6m cable. This is a link here - ebay.us/TT22Bo
About 12 months ago we did an Android install on a E39 540i that still gets a lot questions about how to install or upgrade different versions of the OEM audio system. Hopefully this video will help everyone understand what's going on with the factory setup and how to tackle upgrading both the head unit and the amps.
Below are some links to the xtrons versions to suit the E38, E39 and E53 models. Just keep in mind with the ultra wide 10" screens some android apps don't display that nicely. Its just not made for such a wide screen, its made for narrow tall phone screens.
E53 9” ebay.us/o57X8F
E53 10” ebay.us/WB0ItD
E38 E39 7” ebay.us/9umJxV
E38 E39 10” ebay.us/j7ptlE
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If anyone is chasing the 6m cable this is the link - ebay.us/TT22Bo
Hey Buddy , Can you help me please
I bought the cable and km still not getting any sound ? Do you know why ? I plug the extension cable to that cable to goe to the to amp from the trunk , still no sound
@@storcas1 Hey did u find solution for fixing sound?
I have the same issue. No sound and mine is the simple radio and CD. No navigation
Which ibus app do you recommend?
How do you connect the cable with dsp?
I've watched this video so many times, and each time I appreciate more and more how informative it is. Upgrading an X5's infotainment system literally feels like dealing with the akashic records or some other esoteric dark art. Thank you so much for this.
It really does take a while to get your head around how the system works. Im sure people watching it for the first time will miss certain points, that they pick up later on. Thanks for the kind words.
I have done the same 17yrs ago, bypassing amp keeping HU and put all jlaudio and it's still working today. Excellent job braking it down!
BEST technical Video about this subject I could find, bought a excellent example of 2006 E53 and are looking to upgrade the audio in it :D (Educated in electronics, so the lvl of tech info fitted me perfect) Thanks again as now I have ALL the info to open up the back on the E53 and see what I got and how to upgrade!
Glad it was helpful! If you do have any other questions please dont hesitate to ask. But once you get your head around how it all works together its pretty easy to sort out. Good luck with the upgrades anyway.
i bought an e39 touring a few weeks ago and this is easily the most helpful thing ive seen regarding ICE for these cars.
Glad it helped! If you do have any other questions please let us know.
My e39 had the most basic "business cd" version and luckily for me there was no DSP. I grabbed an Xtrons unit a few months ago after watching Dave install his Android unit (Erisin from memory). Mine is Android10 with PX6 processor, 4gb ram and 64gb rom. It's really been a pleasure, I read reviews of people complaining about Android units being glitchy or slow but mine is awesome, I guess that's what you get if you buy a cheap lower spec unit, I replaced all my speakers with Focal gear and it sounds amazing. Apple Carplay in my 20 year old BMW is a godsend.
That sounds like my old x5 haha. Focal speakers, android head unit! It was awesome.
man i love you i was waiting for this video for a long time you are the best of the best
Lots of good info in your video, helped clarify a lot for my e46 project. Thanks for sharing!
Glad it helped!
This video went straight over my head, then there was a part where I thought "ah yes, now I get it" closely followed by "so much work and thinking 😢" haha
I think you nailed the explanation Andrew. I am surprised they didn't run a digital connection down from the front to the rear. I believe they started that in the later e series.
Interestingly some of this generation did use a coax digital signal for the DSP, however, i have never seen one in the flesh so they must be very rare. But yeah the DSP in this car has the coax digital input. But you are right the fibre optic most bus on the e series is on pretty much all hifi models.
Excellent video, keep up the good work
Great video. An easy way to explain all of this is if your car has factory navigation, you will need that 5m extension harness. If you have DSP, you will need to bypass the factory amp with an aftermarket amp. If you have the simple head unit with no screen, you're good to plug and play the aftermarket head unit without needing the 5m extension harness :)
To bypass the amp would you still
Need a 5m extension for the head unit or wouldn’t matter any more with the 5m extension ?
@@ethanfield5459 Yes, you would still need that cable as that carries power and other connections to the boot/trunk
Could you send me the DSP wiring diagrams you mentioned please. I am just waiting on the same head unit and keen to look at going aftermarket subs. I have a 4.6is also. Thanks G
I will put the diagrams in the next vid for sure. I made a start last night but ended up calling it so will get the rest of the install done today.
Michael, makes sense. i have an android system, plugged it in and turned on but no sound at all. Not sure what i am doing wrong? I have the amp that is on the left of the screen the standard hifi unit not the one on the right of screen. I also have the navigation unit from factory with the same head unit that is in the car on this video. I have no idea what DSP is? any reason why no sound is coming from my unit? i connected bluetooth audio and even with my phone no sound was coming out. its doing my head in now. I think it has to do with the amp? grrr.
Great video..amazing info. Love your ride..perfect colour. Hopefully I can buy a E53 soon.
Thanks! 👍
Excellent video, very informative. Thank you. Kam in London
Kudos for this video!!!
Thank you so much for this How-to video.. I've had a big hole in my dash for ages..
just got an Xtrons head unit, just ordered the 6m connection cable... like step one and step two of a ofa 30 step install.
But my question of the day is about the antenna lead i don't see it connecting in.the 6m cable ... is that a separate cable I need to source?
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Thanks man, yeah been crazy busy, but its all coming together.
My boot is a little different as has LPG fitted but I now know what I'm look for from your video many thanks
What's the best way to get the extension wires to the front of the car and hiding them through the vehicle
Very nice video. I have only one question. I have an early E46 with an amp that I see on 7:06 on the part car. What harness I will need for that amp?
Hi,
I have installed the Eonon one on my 2003 e39 m5. I am confused about the Can Bus installation. Do I have to plug it to get the steering controls working and where should I plug it? And the buttons illumination, I had to jump the power wire from the factory harnesd to the extension cable to get them illuminated when switching the hradlights on. Also, can I add a region in the unit to make radio channels compatible with the regional bands here in Saudi Arabia?
Well mate, I think I'll sell the car. This is ludicrous! Thanks for the notes on this.
Hello i just want a help i want to buy one i think that i need the 6m cable extension but due the budget can i run the head unite without the cable extension and bypass the amplifier
Thanks for this video it helped me a lot
Your welcome!
I m going to replace my stock headunit with this one, or the other larger screen type.
Not decides yet which one to go. Do you think the larger screen one (no buttons) looks ok?
Thank you for the informative video! So I own a 02 e46 m3, which has a non-screen business cd player, and I'm trying to get a head unit. I have watched a lot of youtube videos on E46 head units, some got the complicated wiring to the trunk and some of them don't. So prior to the purchase, I just want to clarify if I can avoid the wiring headache with the basic business cd player?
It's alright going into what booster and what amplifier everything else where are all these things, are they linked to the CD unit all the GPS unit. You've got all these units laid out in the boot but where do they all come from
Hi mate, my 2006 x5 and has no amp has the same screen as the one in your video.
Love the video, very informative! Planning on updating a range rover vogue 2002. It shares a lot of bmw parts including the infotainment system. Do you have any information/knowledge on those vehicles?
Hey great y I need to replace my stereo system conplet and more question can't you tell me where I can't find parts for sale for the 2003 BMW X5 4.4i any seat i wanna change the wood trim for the one you have in your car
Hi good day, my e53 is identical to yours and I have obtained the same stereo with the cable but a few years ago I did do away with the stock amplifier it came with and tapped my speaker wired directly into an aftermarket amp. Now that I have installed this new stereo with the cable I have lost my steering wheel controls. Can you please tell me weather I need the amp or I am doing something wrong.
I have an E38 with the 4:3 navigation screen. Does not have DSP but the amp is in the back. What if I want to completely bypass the stock amp and rewire the speakers? Do I still need the 6M cable?
Good stuff! What was the speaker diagram/wire colors? Thanks
hey mate can you link me to the wiring pinouts for the factory hifi amp (not dsp)
Thanks for the info bro but where do I get that connection from to power up the android
all had amplifiers. Cars equipped with navigation which has the screen you need the additional cable small or large screen. If no screen the additional harness is not needed.
can you please install all these without the amplifier so cause i want to buy this unit and connect it with all the original modules of the car
Could you do a video of stereo removal please and a shallow sub in the factory sub spot this is what I want to do with mine as I use all the boot space 😜
i have a non-DSP HiFi amp and want to add a 10” shallow sub with alpine amp - is it just plug and play to send signal to the amp from the xtrons? (my xtrons is in the mail now)
I've got exactly the same unit in my E39 just bought a e53 so think I'll get one
I bought the 6 meter cable. Radio is turning on, but i dont have sound. On the end of the cable in the trunk i have one connector over. Do i need to plug that in to something in the trunk?
I have a xtron PEP9253B but when connecting to the sub out I have to turn my amp gain to 100% to get any good bass out of it....so my question is, is there a fix for it and is yours the same way.
Hello I have 05 x5 4.8is I install the Sony stereo double din I already installed the wire go to the trunk n head unit
I have little sound but not much already give all the volume n still nothing what is the problem thanks
So I have an android unit from previous owner installed, connected with 1 blue plug to the bm54 (yes still there). My car also doesn't have the left amp (it was a option in europe ?). It is a navigation/no dsp car. But I only get sound from the RR speaker, sometimes LR for 10-30 seconds too when I just started the car. I've read alot on bm54 issues and think this is my problem. But how come every android video/topic says i need the 6m cable and delete the bm54 ??
Hi I just got a e53 x5 and I am only getting sound from the left hand side of the car have you any idea what's wrong and how to fix thanks anthony
At least for the E39, the facelift (2001-2003) version is using the quadlock connector (flat pins). And the pre-facelift (1996-2000) version is using the round pin type
I’ve just got the basic radio hoping I don’t have an amplifier since that means I won’t have to go through that hassle
When you disconnect the battery, sometimes you get asked for a code and need to reinstall the original unit to enter the code. Is the Ibus able to enter the code?
I’m so lost by this sorry. Do you know anywhere in NSW that can fit my Xtrons for me to my 2005 E46 with HK and DSP?
Hey I'm currently Install an android deck in an e53 just like that one I need to know where the steering control wires are located 😢
I have a question BMW E 53 can box settings steering wheel does not work what settings to choose
I have question i have bmw e39 with hifi dsp i want Upgrade but how i do
For amps have a look at the vibe power box units they are pretty cheap and really small so easy to hide away
I will check them out. We have a collection of old amps, that we have been holding on to for god knows why, so will try and repurpose those instead of spending money for now. However, if we end up upgrading speakers we may need a new amps anyway.
I just got an e53 that has fitted an aftermarket head unit on it and someone bodged the harness from the amp. My god this is ridiculous! Thanks for all the info
Sorry to hear that, hope you get it all sorted.
What about if you have dsp but no nav? No one talks about that? Is it plug and play?
I am driving a e46 touring with hi fi sound system. My wide navi display is not showing anything,just a black screen. Everything work normal. To repair this screen i must pay a money almost as much as for android. From you video i understand that if i buy an android or something else i must use again the bm54 module and a hi fi amolifier, right? But what about sound quality? Hi fi amplifier and bm54 are are quite lacking in sound quality…. How i can change that?
Thanks , that was quite useful. I just grabbed me on of those androids today then realized it don't come with the harness which my instincts told me would be missing ☹️. Now I have one of those front panels just like the one you have , it has an amp only in the boot and no DSP , will I still need the new harness ?
You will yeah, the harness will connect the android up from to gear in the boot. If you are no DSP, but with front screen, you should just connect the harness to the original radio down in the spare wheel well.
I've got a 2006 x5 with the DSP. I've got an XTRONS head, and I bought the 6 meter cable. I want to keep the DSP unit and hopefully minimize the puzzle. Can't find a wiring diagram for the XTRONS and still asking them for an Installation Manual. Wish me luck. So far, I plug everything in and the XTRONS doesn't power up... something's missing. Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering and the number of wires, cables and connectors is a bit intimidating :-)
my 2002.09 E53 has also the old BC style with monochrome screens in it. It does have some kind of box in the left pocket of the boot that I spliced into to get my high level sound for aftermarket amp for and antenna power supplies also the amp remote switch. I guess that is the hifi amp? one thing though, there’s CD54 unit in the dash for me with CD player in it and it’s heavy. people on the internet claim that just replacing the dash units should be pretty much it.
how much did the Xtrons unit cost? didn’t notice that in the video 😀
It was just over $400AUD delivered. The reason i went with it was its got the most powerful CPU xtrons offer, im also looking to seeing how the qualcom 5 bluetooth internet sharing from the iphone works. I will explain in a later video but sometimes connecting to iphone hotspots is a bit iffy, which is why i run a full time hotspot in my e92. Heres a link to the listing if you want the full specs. ebay.us/Ov0iHC
Hi guys great video, I bought the same unit and I need the cable. Did your cable come aerial adapted in cable my X from has no areial in box
Unfortunately not
What extension lead do i search and buy on ebay is there a link please
How for e38 is it enough same cable to buy?
Looks like this head unit is the IB9053BL?
Great video. How were you able to get it to seat well. I installed one in an X5 and there are only 2 screw holes at the top right and left of the stereo, but nothing to secure the bottom portion. Mine seems to pop out at the bottom as I tighten the top screws. What did you do to keep the bottom portion from flaring out?
Hey Laz, this unit still isnt screwed it, it just sits in place. Never actually screwed it in as the system was never fully finished, but its sits in place pretty much perfectly and never moves.
the video is awesome, I have a question? Can you tell me where that radio plug is in the trunk of my e46 m3 06, i could not find it. Thanks in advance
To be honest i have never pulled a E46 stereo apart. Sorry i cant help
Hey man I bought an android headunit and I bought the additional wiring harness that goes from the trunk to the headunit because I had oem nav with DSP, but only my front speakers are working, I can’t get my Nokia subwoofers and rear speakers to work. any advice? Some told me I need the i-bus module and some said I don’t.
If you have DSP you will need ibus module to turn the DSP. Unless your headunit specifically listed as controlling the factory DSP.
Hi. if my x5 have only hi fi amp, not dsp i need only connect the 6 meter cable from android to radio module bm 54 connection , and that's it? \the sound will be from all speakers?
correct
Hey mate I've got an 2006 E46 325ci Convertible with the same factory unit that you have, I have the EXL006 6m Harness unlike the one you have, I have tested the unit out by plugging the 40pin directly into the xtrons unit and everything seems to be working but I was just wondering if you knew what the 24 pins of wiring below the 14 do? Because they are no longer being used I was wondering what they did also the other plug has 4 wires going into it what are they for? Because of the 6m harness I have the canbus module will now be in the boot, I was just wondering if you knew of any downsides to putting the canbus adapter in the boot rather than behind the radio and having to run the chunky extension harness to the radio. Cheers.
The pins that dont get used are mainly for the original screen. However there are few other signal wires in them, that are no longer needed now that the factory radio is being bypassed. It doesnt matter where your can bus module is located. As long as its in the can bus line somewhere.
So how do I retain the dsp amp without keeping the factory headunit? I really don't want the old one sitting in my glovebox
Have you figured it out I want to put this in my e39
Thankyou, you did well, I have a better understanding on what I need to do to my X5, ... unfortunately it's not to install a head unit, ... it's to Torch it and start again with a different car 😆😆
hahahah well good luck regardless haaha
I have a BM53 head unit in my X5, will I be right buying that 6M Cable and the same display screen that you have used, and it will just plug and play ?
What if you dont have an amplifier on the boot you only have the BM54 head unit in the back? i didnt hear you cover that? im assuming i can probably just run that long cable to the bm54 cable?
Yes correct
i still have another question. Is it relatively easy to remove any trims in order to pass the harness through the car?
Yes, so easy i cant even remember how, it just comes apart from memory.
Hi, sorry i need help,
i have a BMW x5 e53 from 2005, but in the rear on the left i have no hi-fi aplifieror DSP.
Do i need some cable or do i just plug in the new radio and it will work?
thanks for the help !
If you dont have the hifi amp, the audio may still be coming from the BM53 unit in the spare wheel well. You will need to check if you have that.
Hi is there a link to the pin out for the speaker wiring into the crossovers
Just the info in the next video where it gets wired in.
So I have an e39 2003 I understand the wiring but what about the antenna how do I get it up front
You must use an extension.
13:16 mini stroke 😂
God my E30 was so easy!!!! Cheers for best explanation I've seen 👍
Glad you liked it!
Just bought an E53 with the stock gear removed and an aftermarket installed. Nearly works. Your vid gave the least confusing info ive seen so far. Would love to know the pinouts for the speakers
Hello great videos as usual u have a x5 e53 face-lift with the stock navigation unit, and my speakers don't work but some times they start working all of a sudden(sometimes the front ones work and some times the back ones) what do you think the problem is. Thanks in advance.
I think it's the b54 module. Bmw doctor should have a youtube video on this topic..
Did you have a pinout for the alpine n18 hifi amp single plug
Sorry I dint
Hello everybody. Recently I got a 2002 X5 with al the original sound system. It has the original cd changer, 4 speaker, 4 tweeter, and two sub-woofer. It does not have a navigation system.
Now I got from ebay a Android unit with all the accesories to just plug and play. After I removed the radio and cd unit in the panel and then installed the new android unit. Not sound comes out. I found several videos and articles tha says that can be the original amp remote on problem or dsp problem.
What can I do to solve this problem.
Thanks a lot for any sugestion.
I’m having this same problem with my 2002 X5 bought an eBay android. Everything installed super easy and the head unit turns on and works but no sound coming out of the speakers. If you mess with it for long enough turning the car on and off it will sometimes start to work until I shut the car off again then same problem. Doesn’t seem like the amp is being triggered to turn on is my guess. I’m not sure what to do either. I dint think either one of us has dsp because the amp that’s in my car is the smaller black one which was furthest to the left in the video. Any thoughts on this for us???
Any chance would you have a link for the Y-extension harness? i have exhausted my options trying to get my Xtrons unit to work on my '08 E93. The unit works, but no sounds comes out of speakers nor any radio channels found. i have tried the fiberoptic bypass loop to have the amp turn on, but no luck. i think i will have to connect the OEM unit extended into the trunk, so the ID can be found on the buss network. Love your channel, and you always have great info. Hopefully you can save me, lol.
You need to run them through the stock CCC unit on a e9x. On the e9x the androids simply connect to the factory CCC aux in. Very different setup to these older cars.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks! I'll give that a try.
Jeez that is a lot of non-moving parts to keep track of!
Whats an ACY or what are you saying at 17:31
Hi, my BMW is the 2005 X5 E53 with the tuner in the back boot. I have to buy the Aerpro BMW Quadlock Extention (APFH022) to connect the aftermarket head unit to the tuner in the back (underneath the spare tyre). However, while everything is working, there is no sound from the DSP. Not sure if you have any suggestion? Thanks
Where Can i find the harness for it as mine didn't come with it.
ebay.us/TT22Bo
Personally the bass you get from a sub isn't actually that useable in a car, crank the volume up and it tends to just vibrate everything lol. If there's any doubts in the doors speakers etc I'd upgrade them to really good quality component speakers and keep it simple. You'll get all your audio quality setup that way and have plenty bass available too
I guess depending on the type of music you listen to and the volumes you listen at that could be the case.
I disagree. One tiny subwoofer would make that component system sound much better. No need to shake the rearview so you can't see.
what head unit did you get for Daves E39-thinking of doing my e39
In the e39 he went with an Android that still looks like a stock unit. Biggest thing to get is the ibus module, so you can still control all the factory OBD functions. czcams.com/video/pf6y7KG32iI/video.html
So I have a e39 with standard stereo called business and I believe there is no amps at all so how to connect and do I need to run the harness to the boot?
You wont need the boot harness if you dont have anything in the boot. Just make sure you. dont have any modules in the spare wheel well.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i will check tomorrow but there is a CD changer in the boot and there might be another module next to it. It's on the left hand side of the boot behind the carpet trim. Thanks. Love your channel by the way. Big shout out from grey and wet United Kingdom
I bought my x5 e53 without a radio. How do I know what kind the original was
Will have to check the modules in he boot, all the same checks apply (unless even they were removed, which would be weird)
Hi... where does the second box connect to in the boot please?
Depends on your cars setup. But most just connect to the BM53 module.
Wow I got lost with the detail. But thanks for trying so hard to explain.
Yeah sorry about that. I was trying to simplyfy it, but it was one of those things where i probably should have scripted this one.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Well it’s is me not you. The electrical stuff I really struggle with.
Do i need to do all this? I mean all i want to is to listen to some radio while going from point A to point B?
Yes
The link for the cable you provided Doesn't post to United States. Do you have another alternative.
i dont sorry
I watched hours of videos and I read tons of different posts from various forum pages...
Your video is the most explanatory resource. Thanks for the information.
I need help with my e38 with factory DSP amplifier.
1998 e38 with DSP (without nav - no need for 6m cable) and stock speakers I was not able to change the direction of the sound. Even if I change the balance cursor sound was still coming from all speakers.
I decided to buy and install Avin Avant 4 with DSP option and focal 2-way speakers with crossovers to replace 4-door speakers (rear deck 4 speakers are factory original). Now I have very low and distorted sound from all speakers and I cannot direct sound to any speaker same as the old setup. I bought a used DSP factory amplifier to try but no luck, the result is the same.
I am thinking about buying an aftermarket amplifier but not sure about what to do for a good sound quality
I need your advice.
I think ditching the DSP is the way to go. The fact the factory DSP is canbus bus controlled is just a nightmare. The DSP is also a very old piece of electronics that wont last much longer. I'd go new amp and crossover setup and simplify the system.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Head unit is Avin Avant 4. Door speakers are Focal Acces a130 2-way for all the doors. I will keep rear deck speakers stock. I ordered an Alpine PDX-V9 amplifier and Focal RCA cables. I will bypass DSP and put the amplifier and crossovers into the trunk.
I have I-bus license and USB on the head unit. Am I going to loose any feature by ditching DSP amp?
I checked the pin diagram you shared. What will happen to cables other than speaker cables? for example "telephone mute signal cable" Do I need to connect them anywhere or just blind them or what?
@@fatihkervanoglu you wont loose any features, you will have a normal aftermarket stereo from this point. I did nothing with the mute signals etc. You no longer have the factory car phone module, well you will have none of the factory modules.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thank you very much for the detailed information. I am going to pull the trigger this weekend :D
where can i find the wiring harness you used?
xtrons.co.uk/extension-cable-exl007
Love your video. I've installed a Eonon GA9350 in my E46 2004. The radio looses frequency even now and then. I tried to up the antenna. Still no good. The GPS is not working, i think i need a SD card. But the good news is the blue tooth for the phone, rear camera and mic is working Yeah. Do you know anything about this system and are you located in Melbourne. cheers Robert
Hi Robert, unfortunately not. Sorry we can't help. On the same note if you have a unit in there already working, putting the latest model in, should be a breeze.
How hard is it to run the extension cable in an e39
Not too bad. Front seat out, lower sill trims, rear lower seat. Allow an hour if you have never done one before.
Hey guys I am having some trouble with an e46 and an eonon android headunit with the 6m extension harness all plugged in but no sound at all
Is my amp gone?
Headunit works as it should but no sound from radio as well as music
Also the steering wheel control for volume does nothing
Canbus system is set up as well
Any help is much appreciated
Hi Adrian. Have you worked out what your original system was? As in exactly what amp is fitted?
@@ZeroTo60Tube
Hi guys and thanks so much for the reply and help
It's the basic hifi amp harmon kardon amp single plug
Can you please tell me where to get the 6m cable,
I got it from ebay, but you will need to get one to suit your specific unit. Best and safest bet is to contact the supplier of your specific unit.
I ran a 5m cable from boot to front and installed brogotek android...it works but there is No sound whatsoever... extremely baffled..does this means the speakers have a short somewhere