You're (Probably) Using Prettier Wrong

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2023
  • Prettier, ESLint, TSLint, Typescript...they're all a bit confusing. That's not an excuse for using them wrong.
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Komentáře • 215

  • @ofadiman
    @ofadiman Před rokem +207

    Since I started watching Theo, he is constantly telling me "You are (probably) using XYZ wrong..." 🐞

    • @Saru-Dono
      @Saru-Dono Před rokem +31

      And like 50% of the time he's right

    • @BloodyShadowBS
      @BloodyShadowBS Před rokem

      Some influncer came with "some experience" and just "pretends" that anything that worked in last 20 years is not working anymore because of some personal opinion. For example unit testing. Just please stop it.
      Saw those videos and dude just cant answer basic questions why it is not a good idea, just goes around talking about other things and trying to sound like he did answered. Too much bullshiting.

    • @snakefinn
      @snakefinn Před rokem +11

      ​@@Saru-Dono That's what happens when you have a strong opinion on every topic in an industry

    • @Saru-Dono
      @Saru-Dono Před rokem +11

      @@snakefinn
      Yup, but that's why I like Theo. I may not agree with him 100%, but I respect his opinion.

    • @Blinknone
      @Blinknone Před rokem +1

      Sometimes he's even right..

  • @AwesomeAsh99
    @AwesomeAsh99 Před rokem +19

    Theo I've only recently found your channel but man am I enamoured (by your content)! You make the best devs videos that aren't just "tutorial/intro to technology" where you gloss over "advanced" topics and only cover superficial and basic level concepts. You truly make videos that devs want to watch, covering a broad range of topics, making informed arguments, and overall just being a top tier dev (uploadthing). Looking forward to the rest of your great work.

  • @voidmind
    @voidmind Před rokem +10

    If ESLint is not meant to be a formatter, then why does it have formatting rules? Also, Prettier is not flexible. If you don't like else if statements on the same line as a closing curly brace, you're out of luck. I'm sorry, but there's no such thing as a one size fits all formatter. If your formatting tool can't be configured to fit different styles, and you don't like its default style, then it is inferior. For me and my team Prettier is inferior to ESLint for formatting

  • @rafaelpoveda9409
    @rafaelpoveda9409 Před rokem +84

    The biggest confusion that I’ve seen around this topic is when you include VSCode into the mix.
    Is not always clear who’s formatting my code. The vscode extension formatting on save or my precommit hook.

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +53

      I hope you know my stance on precommit hooks by now

    • @rudyorre
      @rudyorre Před rokem +5

      i feel like it's obvious if you're just using prettier installed via npm, or am I missing something

    • @ra2enjoyer708
      @ra2enjoyer708 Před rokem +1

      Technically pre-commit hook and extension should derive the state from the same config, so it shouldn't matter in the end. And Prettier doesn't use folder config inheritance nonsense ESLint does, so it's easier to set up and test.

    • @rudyorre
      @rudyorre Před rokem

      @@ra2enjoyer708 genuinely curious, why even use the extension then when u can have prettier set up as a pre-commit hook which ensures everyone developing the project will have the same formatting?

    • @Amaraticando
      @Amaraticando Před rokem +1

      @@rudyorre because some of us use a shortcut to format the code as we edit it, even without saving.

  • @Leto2ndAtreides
    @Leto2ndAtreides Před rokem +94

    These days we expect the tools to be intuitive.
    They should just remove the styling functionality in eslint.
    The reality is that it isn’t that most developers think they’re better than open source maintainers… It’s that they never think about the maintainers’ existence at all.
    Opensource has always had an aspect of putting what you want to have out there, out in the world.
    But you're doing it without an expectation that the users act like customers or fans.

    • @dfsafsdafsdf800
      @dfsafsdafsdf800 Před rokem +3

      Agree, until they are not making a decision to deprecate Eslint-plugin it will be used period.

    • @immer5680
      @immer5680 Před rokem +3

      yes, stylelint already did this and encourage people to use formatters for that

    • @Dude29
      @Dude29 Před rokem

      Agreed

    • @TheNewton
      @TheNewton Před rokem +1

      We don't know the name of the person that makes our hammer.
      I'm sure there's a further analogy with Dunbars number in there was well.

  • @Holfter
    @Holfter Před rokem +5

    According to this guy I'm probably living my life wrong

  • @mjanos18
    @mjanos18 Před rokem +10

    I think a good reason for having a prettier config is that it pins down all the defaults or whatever configs you like. That way if the prettier team changes their mind on what a given config value’s default should be, you can still stay witht the same formatting as you had before without creating a PR where 7000 files have changed.

  • @thimodev
    @thimodev Před rokem +6

    I agree both a linter and formatter have their own use cases. However with prettier I often find it to make the code unreadable when the printwidth is exceeded. I have now used eslint only for a few projects and the only thing I encounter is having to decide when to break a line of code into multiple lines. Adding full Prettier for that for me feels overkill

  • @denzilv
    @denzilv Před rokem

    Great video and thanks for the explanation, Theo! 🤙

  • @miguelsoldado1099
    @miguelsoldado1099 Před rokem +13

    Great video, only thing I don't agree with is not having a prettier config... If you share a repo with even a small team the likelihood that someone has changed their default prettier config is pretty high. I do believe the defaults are fine but setting them in a config so it overrides each team member personal config is the play for me

    • @miguelsoldado1099
      @miguelsoldado1099 Před 11 měsíci

      @@im_arsnl awful take lmao. If that was true there would be 0 reason for the prettier config to even exist... In my experience prettier is there to help straight out of the box with the defaults, but in react with ts I like increasing the printWidth just so I don't have a generic component function spread into 3 lines. It's just straight up personal preference because it compiles to the same code at the end of the day.

  • @Adam-ys6gn
    @Adam-ys6gn Před rokem +1

    I use eslint-plugin-prettier in my codebases, and it has always worked nicely for me. It's convenient being able to do an eslint autofix and have all the fixable lint issues and formatting errors taken care of with one command. I also like the fact that my formatting issues show up in my code through the eslint extension. Though, it's good to know that if my formatting ever becomes slow then this might be why.

  • @ValerianAndStuff
    @ValerianAndStuff Před rokem +3

    I like using prettier + ESlint with most harsh rules and auto fix on save
    + auto reloading code

  • @rickdg
    @rickdg Před rokem +2

    Cool, gonna take a look at dprint.

  • @zh1dky122
    @zh1dky122 Před rokem

    great info, thanks. mind making a video how you setup both working together in a project?

  • @BusinessAutomatedTutorials

    The pnpm and tailwind plugin!!! I just faced that recently.. Any pointers where to find more about it?

  • @jenewland1999
    @jenewland1999 Před rokem +8

    While it would be a breaking change, I feel like ESLint would be doing themselves a big favour if they just removed the ability to have stylistic rules in ESLint altogether. They could have a non-breaking change that just adds a warning message to the output saying, please don't use eslint-plugin-prettier and link to that page you showed, or better yet this video.

    • @BrotWurst
      @BrotWurst Před rokem

      yeah. same thought. why is it possible to add simple stylistic rules but also warn everybody "hey please just lint. dont style with eslint". so yeah why is it even possible?! :D

  • @PieterWigboldus
    @PieterWigboldus Před 3 měsíci

    I was always expecting that Prettier just uses Eslint in the background, and in that case, it would be better to add prettier to Eslint.
    But now i am confusing, and will dive into the prettier code to check how it really works.

  • @cal4488
    @cal4488 Před rokem +21

    This and Josh's talk are honestly great value. Linting and prettier have always been boring tooling I've refused to invest time into learning or caring about. Being able to grok how these 2 tools interop and when was a huge help for me. Keep on keeping on with the great content!

  • @DesolationPhoenix
    @DesolationPhoenix Před rokem +4

    Hey Theo! Thanks for the video. How you you recommend configuring vscode settings to ensure that prettier runs first on save, then eslint afterwards?

  • @ronaldpaek
    @ronaldpaek Před rokem

    What am I doing wrong when my tailwind css prettier auto class sorting works sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t work, this mainly happens when I’m using cva and tv functions. Do others experience on/off sorting functionality?

  • @AlexSpieslechner
    @AlexSpieslechner Před rokem +2

    what do you think about import sorting with eslint?

  • @NateLevin
    @NateLevin Před rokem +1

    Same thing with the Tailwind ESLint plugin, which has formatting enabled by default for some reason. The worst part is that the third party ESLint plugin conflicts with the official Tailwind prettier plugin. Ugh!

  •  Před 11 měsíci

    wouldn't it makes sense to have 1 tool you can either run to format or to lint?
    If you could run eslint either with only fixing formatting or with doing linting i can imagen it can be just as fast on the formatting part?

  • @Mitsunee_
    @Mitsunee_ Před rokem +1

    the only thing I format with ESLint are my imports, because prettier doesn't care at all about some details I prefer and the plugin by trivago does weird stuff with the AST of prettier, so I'd rather use the ESLint plugin that is guaranteed to work better and basically does the same thing.

  • @hojinharry6270
    @hojinharry6270 Před rokem

    im dying for next stream. need it asap Theo!

  • @Svish_
    @Svish_ Před rokem +17

    The reason I do Prettier via ESLint is because that's the way I've managed to make things work in a consistent and predictable manner. I hit save in VS Code, and it does both Prettier formatting, and ESLint auto-fixes. If I need to do it from the command-line, it's just a single command I need to run. To check things on the CI server, again, just a single command needs to run. It's maybe a little bit slower, but it works, and I don't have to think about it anymore.
    Can you make a quick video on how you would set up Prettier and ESLint in a simple project, in a way that it works seamlessly via VS Code and is easy to integrate in a CI build? I would very much like to learn how to make our setup more performant if that's possible, which it seems like it is.

    • @rea9lizer
      @rea9lizer Před rokem

      Personally I use XO for that reason, but even if you don't like it, you can just make a simple npm script for that

    • @Svish_
      @Svish_ Před rokem

      @@rea9lizer XO?

    • @syedahkam7164
      @syedahkam7164 Před rokem +1

      npm format && npm lint ?

    • @Svish_
      @Svish_ Před rokem +1

      @@syedahkam7164 Sure, but it's the VS Code side of it in unsure about.

    • @rea9lizer
      @rea9lizer Před rokem +1

      @Svish85 google 'xojs',
      it's basically an ESLint + Prettier (optional) wrapper with sensible default and offers an all-in-one command and a VSC ext for Prettier-then-ESLint

  • @BrotWurst
    @BrotWurst Před rokem +2

    Personally i just had really bad experiences with Prettier (Vue Project. That was about >1 year ago. I've spent multiple hours trying to configure prettier for vue templates but it was just annoying and painful. i could give it another try tho)

  • @gosnooky
    @gosnooky Před rokem +4

    I can never get these two to work together properly. When both are active in a project, I always got competition between the two where I'd save, and one would undo formatting that the other did. So I just get rid of prettier and format with eslint. It may be slow, but it works and it's fast enough for me.

    • @rea9lizer
      @rea9lizer Před rokem

      it can't be the case when you use eslint-config-prettier properly tho??

    • @gosnooky
      @gosnooky Před rokem

      @@rea9lizer I've never found the solution that works properly, and it's not for want of trying.

    • @firedforfighting
      @firedforfighting Před 11 měsíci

      there is a package called "eslint-config-wesbos" and it combines the two, I didn't know about these 2 tools until wes bos and I always used his package to get them both to behave, but after this video I am weighing my options...I like that I can list and beautify my code at the same time

  • @ShaharHarshuv
    @ShaharHarshuv Před rokem

    I got a PR rejected to a eslint plugin repo because I failed to understand this exact point. I pushed to use prettier in our team, and my life has been better since

  • @calebcruz151
    @calebcruz151 Před 3 měsíci

    Super helpful, thanks!

  • @DanielRios549
    @DanielRios549 Před 10 měsíci

    I use only ESLint for my project, the only problem I have is a bug on VSCode configuration, depending on the config, sometimes when I press CTRL + S it applies the lining and removes again if I press the shortcut again, and it keep applying and removing in a loop, it's a bit weird,, I think it's related to the config "editor.formatOnSave"

  • @yiannis_p
    @yiannis_p Před rokem

    It’s like you read my mind I was about to look into this further and then patron sent me the email

  • @MartinRojas
    @MartinRojas Před rokem +9

    Good points on most except for the point about config. This might work on personal projects, but if you are working with multiple developers on a production application you want to have a config file with the define set of rules for that project and also prettier actually installed on the project so that everyone is using the same version of prettier on the project. Nine times out of ten it wont be a problem, but it could save a lot of headache if someone has a weird configured IDE.

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +9

      ...if you install Prettier as a dep, and use the default config, this is the case? I think you misunderstood the point

  • @adaliszk
    @adaliszk Před rokem +1

    Can you share a link for that "deprint" you mentioned?

  • @stefanvojvodic2758
    @stefanvojvodic2758 Před rokem

    What are your thoughts on prettier plugin for sorted imports?

  • @NikoSantis
    @NikoSantis Před rokem

    Cómo sería una configuración de VScode ideal? Cómo trabajar con el formateo si usar o no formatOnSave o eslint on save 😢

  • @devagr
    @devagr Před rokem +3

    Josh's talk is a must-watch for 99% of people working in typescript projects

  • @_nikeee
    @_nikeee Před rokem +1

    I'm using Rome for both tasks in smaller projects and it is really fast. It's not that stable, though.

  • @charlesbcraig
    @charlesbcraig Před rokem +1

    I’ll install any extension as long as it’s written in rust

  • @ShinigamiZone
    @ShinigamiZone Před rokem

    THANK you, I'm exactly this opinion
    prettier for formatting
    eslint for linting

  •  Před rokem

    What was the rust formatter he mentioned? I cant find it

  • @carlotadias9335
    @carlotadias9335 Před 6 měsíci

    Excelent explanation,
    Thank you

  • @Brawaru
    @Brawaru Před rokem +7

    One thing that's annoying with Prettier is that ‘trailingComma’ is not set to ‘all’ by default. Trailing commas are really really good for versioning systems like Git, so you always gotta have a prettierrc to enable it. I also like using JSDoc Prettier plugin (it's frankly is a must if you are working with types via JSDoc), wish it would just be included by default. But then, they also completely ignored the request to use tabs by default, which is accessibility concern...

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +1

      I’m pretty sure they’re moving to tabs soon?

    • @christianoliff7759
      @christianoliff7759 Před rokem +9

      trailingComma will be set to all by default in the next major version of Prettier (v3)

    • @Brawaru
      @Brawaru Před rokem

      Not sure why CZcams decided to remove my comment. But to Theo: no, they were going to consider making tabs a default in version 3, but it has been since moved to version 4, so I doubt it happens any time soon.

    • @cahva2
      @cahva2 Před rokem +2

      Tabs vs spaces... Noooo! Not again!

    • @JeyPeyy
      @JeyPeyy Před rokem +1

      It makes sense that the default has been backwards compatible with es5, but now it's time to move on and change the defaults

  • @jalalle1995
    @jalalle1995 Před rokem +1

    In the javascript ecosystem, everyone is using everything wrong. if so many people are using a tool wrong maybe that's a tool problem

  • @kingfisher7348
    @kingfisher7348 Před 9 měsíci

    You looks like a guy from 1800-1900 century. I loved it.

  • @md.musfiqurrahaman8612

    Thanks for this informative video.

  • @desvelame
    @desvelame Před rokem

    I was talking about this sh*t with some friends a few minutes ago. Thanks

  • @xbsidesx
    @xbsidesx Před rokem

    What do you need to manually put by using pnpm?

  • @universe_decoded797
    @universe_decoded797 Před rokem +3

    They should make the docs better, i want to see in 30 seconds what to install and what not to install. They even put link tags around things they recommended not to install thats confusing lol. We have colors for a reason. The prettier team and eslint team really should work together to make it more clear if so many devs don’t understand what to do. And not every dev is native English which makes it even harder.

  • @JoRyGu
    @JoRyGu Před rokem +1

    I'll run eslint --fix on save until I die. Don't @ me.

  • @NicolasRuizX
    @NicolasRuizX Před rokem

    Last linter I've used was TSLint, the only ready to use linter. ESlint it's just bunch of rules that want to make Typescript less Typescript, and it changes every day!!, one day I woke up, updated some dependencies and half of the project was red, how can you say they know better when they can't even agree about which hand are they gonna use to wipe their behinds with the next day. It's a nightmare every time I try it, I always disabled it. Bring back TSlint!!!

  • @iMakeYoutubeConfused
    @iMakeYoutubeConfused Před rokem

    Prettier wants && and || at the end and eslint wants them at the beginning

  • @jeytii
    @jeytii Před rokem +1

    I'm guilty of using ESLint as a formatter and a linter 😁

  • @DanielPVolpato
    @DanielPVolpato Před 8 měsíci

    Agreed. But I think it's better to eslint first and the prettier it, in case eslint autofix will screw the formatting of the file.

  • @JeanPatrickSmith
    @JeanPatrickSmith Před rokem +1

    I appreciate the point but have to work on code bases where all the eslint rules are actually formatting rules so you’re kind of stuck in between a rock and a hard place.
    Maybe I’ll play this to make my point at the next development sync 😅

  • @user-jd1mb1vw8y
    @user-jd1mb1vw8y Před 11 dny +1

    Nice talk, but without a good example of configuration, it's just a talk. Including a detailed pipeline for build and deployment would make it more effective.

  • @dechobarca
    @dechobarca Před rokem +3

    Thanks for making me/us aware of dprint, need to look into it.
    By the way, there is also this tool called Rome, which is basically a linter and formatter combined into one. Not sure if I am ready to replace ESLint with it yet, cause I have a bucketload of rules that are probably missing since it's still in development, but maybe one day it can and you won't have to make videos like these anymore :)

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +5

      Rome's dead as fuck lol

    • @dechobarca
      @dechobarca Před rokem +5

      Attempt #3 at commenting, I think youtube auto-removes my comments when I reply to you because you have an URL in your username :D
      But I wanted to ask what makes you say that? I checked their github repository and it seems very much in active development with like 9 new releases in the past month.

    • @moshyfawn
      @moshyfawn Před rokem +5

      @@dechobarca Rome did the equivalent of what Deno did initially in runtime world: Deno ignored the whole eco-system of npm packages by not supporting them; Rome does not have a way to use exciting or custom ESLint rules and only add support for rules they think needed.
      There're other issues with it, but this is the most prominent one in my book.

    • @dechobarca
      @dechobarca Před rokem

      @@moshyfawn oh okay, thanks a lot for the explanation. That's very unfortunate, migration would be an absolute nightmare now that I think about it, especially for people that maintain a big list of carefully curated rules. Maybe someone makes a tool for migrations, but if they are stubborn in supporting what ESLint supports then I don't see this going anywhere sadly :|

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +3

      @@dechobarca oh man that checks out actually, good catch
      Re: Rome being dead, they significantly downsized the team mid rewrite and have shifted focus significantly. I could be flipped but like they went from the HOTTEST thing to one blog post a year 🤷‍♂️

  • @Sindoku
    @Sindoku Před 6 měsíci

    My thoughts are if the linters don’t want you to style your code with them then they should just remove the stylist rules module from the linter. If you cut the head off the snake so speak, it can’t bite you. If you remove the ability to restyle, it can’t interfere with formatters.

  • @RotcivC
    @RotcivC Před rokem

    Only a few more videos and theo will have his hood on and headphones on top and cursing JavaScript. The transformation to TheoPrime will be complete!

    • @Slashx92
      @Slashx92 Před rokem

      the pipeline theo > prime is real

  • @AmodeusR
    @AmodeusR Před 11 měsíci

    So essentially I shouldn't use ESLint to check and force code style?

  • @mateuszlason8771
    @mateuszlason8771 Před rokem

    Freddy is that you

  • @JeffBarron1
    @JeffBarron1 Před rokem +1

    so how about eslint just deprecate the stylistic component

  • @coplepk04
    @coplepk04 Před rokem

    Plenty of (great!) examples of using eslint wrong, but I must have missed how people are using prettier wrong.

  • @AIZEN155
    @AIZEN155 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Aah come on , the docs says it's a formatter not a linter, that why people uses eslint with prettier

  • @GoblinDigital
    @GoblinDigital Před rokem

    I use prettier to format and just disable linter bc I don’t know or care how to set it up with webstorm.

  • @guifeliper
    @guifeliper Před rokem

    Can you right a full example?

  • @tamasmolnar4157
    @tamasmolnar4157 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Theo, ESLint 9.0.0 is out (breaking changes). If you have time/will, please make a video on ESLint and Prettier in a node.js typescript project (e.g. Nest.js).
    It would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  • @EricMuranoAU
    @EricMuranoAU Před rokem

    here I am using BOTH prettier and eslint for formatting O_o

  • @blue_name_warrior
    @blue_name_warrior Před 2 měsíci

    Me configuring typescript, vue, vscode extensions, pinia, router, vite, (previously babel, webpack), tsx, dotenv, tailwind, playwright, vitest, eslint, prettier... It's good to hear the complexity of the last two things are necessary.
    Joke. I used bun for several months.

  • @thespikything
    @thespikything Před měsícem

    *Biome* has entered the chat

  • @roberthead
    @roberthead Před 10 měsíci

    Subscribing for the hair.

  • @lucadigianventura3554

    Incredibly, this is the first thing I was doing right! Hooray, I'm safe 🎉😂

  • @nasso_
    @nasso_ Před rokem +6

    yoo patreon email gang

  • @eldarshamukhamedov4521
    @eldarshamukhamedov4521 Před 6 měsíci

    There's nothing worse than having a linter tell you that your formatting is wrong. I don't want to know... I just want you to fix it. Formatting lint errors are PURE noise.

  • @gingerbread2662
    @gingerbread2662 Před 7 měsíci

    1:18 - eslint-config-prettier IS NOT AN ESLINT PLUGIN! It is a config. People are messing up those two things as well a lot

  • @dv_interval42
    @dv_interval42 Před rokem +5

    I use ESLint to enforce prettier rules because I dont wanna manually fix linting issues which are very mechanically auto-fixable, while also formatting my code by Prettier standards. I'll take it being slower because it won't be as slow as me going in and fixing stuff manually. For example, I use eslint-plugin-tailwindcss instead of the prettier plugin for tailwindcss (some stupid thing caused my code to be "formatted" very slowly, around 10 seconds for each formatting. I was told it was this plugin. I switched it, and the slowdown went away). Now the plugin tells me the tailwind class order. I don't wanna fix it if the computer can do it hehe. Prettier can't enforce auto fixable linting errors but ESLint can enforce formatting standards, however slow-er. My projects are not nearly large enough to be affected significantly by the slowdown so it works in my case (if that makes a difference).

    • @t3dotgg
      @t3dotgg  Před rokem +8

      ...just have prettier run format on save then eslint run fixes after? Like everyone is recommending?

    • @bruwyvn
      @bruwyvn Před rokem

      You can assign a shortcut, format it on save or run with lint-staged if your IDE don't support it

    • @williamlvea
      @williamlvea Před rokem +2

      I will never understand the appeal of format on save. It is one of the most annoying things

    • @NikitaLipkanovOfficial
      @NikitaLipkanovOfficial Před rokem

      Interesting, I usually only use the default ESLint and prettier settings in my VSCode because I just want my code to look consistent and not have to think about some crazy manual configurations....

    • @kurtblackwell7752
      @kurtblackwell7752 Před rokem

      Our team configures every project with ESLint autofix and Prettier on save. There is no performance issue, and I don't understand any argument why you would want to run the linter separately. I appreciate that the developers of these tools might not intend it to work like this, but when configuring our editors (usually VSCode, sometimes a vim, emacs, etc) having a single config that does both greatly improves consistency.

  • @Milky____
    @Milky____ Před rokem

    Ty

  • @unimatrixzero7745
    @unimatrixzero7745 Před rokem

    been doing this for years

  • @HorizonHuntxr
    @HorizonHuntxr Před rokem +1

    If eslint not formatter, why option in vscode to use as formatter ? 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @StrikerFeed
      @StrikerFeed Před rokem

      Every installed extension appears to be an option as a formatter, but it's incorrect to make eslint work. Instead, you configure actions on save.

    • @shakapaker
      @shakapaker Před rokem

      @@StrikerFeed so is it good practice to run eslint fixAll on file save?

    • @StrikerFeed
      @StrikerFeed Před rokem

      @@shakapaker sure

  • @pixelsam123
    @pixelsam123 Před rokem

    Wait until Antfu watches this video

  • @shlomomoller7440
    @shlomomoller7440 Před 8 dny

    thanks

  • @vigyanhoon
    @vigyanhoon Před rokem

    Theo be cool, there are lots of things not as it should be.

  • @howzeman
    @howzeman Před 11 měsíci +1

    I'm def not pretending to know better than the lib maintainers, it's just confusing to me that eslint supports formatting rules, can apply the formatting automatically, but then they are like "hey don't you dare using eslint for formatting!!1". Why do they build it in in the first place then? Well okay I believe you and will install prettier now ...

  • @atljBoss
    @atljBoss Před rokem

    I don't really mind if it's taking 2 seconds longer than it should be but more than 2 secs are definitely bad. I wish we got a video comparing prettier eslint and the bare prettier one.

  • @shawnweddle3002
    @shawnweddle3002 Před rokem

    I use create-t3-app, so I’m set

  • @morgengabe1
    @morgengabe1 Před rokem

    Linters operate on semantics, formatters on syntax.

  • @TheNewton
    @TheNewton Před rokem

    4:23 People will not listen .. because they think better.
    This is often a problem of people are being told but not shown replicable proof or reminded of the steps to reproduce the proof.
    Then there's also overcome peoples bias from muscle memory or willingness to change config files.
    Configs they may already have heavily invested their opinion into , but never tested and proof would wipe that investment.
    Sigh.

  • @alexaka1
    @alexaka1 Před rokem

    My lint task is npm ci && eslint .

  • @jaygarricktheflash
    @jaygarricktheflash Před rokem +1

    Get out my head. About a couple hours ago. I was looking to dump prettier because lack of config.

  • @7iomka
    @7iomka Před 7 měsíci

    ESLint v8.53.0: Deprecation of formatting rules :)

  • @forxstsombodi3043
    @forxstsombodi3043 Před 11 měsíci

    Nice i wasn't using it wrong.

  • @jackevansevo
    @jackevansevo Před rokem

    Why on earth is a linter tool doing formatting in the first place lol.

  • @FabrizioMarmitt
    @FabrizioMarmitt Před rokem

    It would be great to have a more streamlined TS/JS ecosystem that eliminates the need for tools like prettier, linter, and ts configs. Having to learn and configure these tools can feel like a waste of time. 😿

  • @hundehausen
    @hundehausen Před rokem

    Is this video speed up or are you really talking that fast? 😅

  • @jasonrooney1368
    @jasonrooney1368 Před rokem +1

    The problem is so many framework CLI's set it up wrong in the first place: they enable the eslint prettier-plugin.
    The biggest problem with this plugin is now you have red squiggles for any formatting errors. This accomplishes the opposite of what prettier sets out to do: allowing you to completely ignore formatting.

    • @c0ldfury
      @c0ldfury Před 9 měsíci

      or yellow squiggles, easily distinguishable from linter errors? An no, if prettier just allowed a team of devs to "just ignore formatting" it would be terrible. It's real use is to keep the team working to the same standards, and that can be better achieved (and taught) with code hinting.

  • @moneyfr
    @moneyfr Před rokem

    talk about ROME LINTER

  • @shakapaker
    @shakapaker Před rokem

    So we shouldn't run eslint on code save?

  • @laurin__
    @laurin__ Před 9 měsíci

    Hey, beside the infomative i really like your open, fast talking way, I feel like I can relate well to your mind whatever xD , kinda wondering what iq you have :o

  • @ohTostt
    @ohTostt Před rokem

    Let me see if I do

  • @zyph.
    @zyph. Před 22 dny

    Yeah.. nope.. In the end these are tools and if a tool doesn’t do what I want, it is slowing me down.
    I would use Prettier if it wasn’t so (over) opinionated. I want to decide when I keep code on one line or move it to the next. Not based on some arbitrary integer value. This to me is really broken in Prettier and you’ll have a hard time convincing me it isn’t 🎉