Mexican Genealogy: Jewish Origin of Three Families in Jalisco
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- In 1492, Castile and Aragon (Spain) gave an ultimatum to the Jews: convert to Catholicism or leave. This presentation tells the story of three families that stayed but continued facing persecution and their voyage to the new world.
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Hi, I want to thank Mariano González Leal, Carlo Baroccio, Enrique Soria Mesa, and all the other researchers that are no longer with us that, for many years have contributed to reconstruct and make known the history of these families.
Congrats! The ancestors would be proud. Great presentation. I’m so excited to share.
My last name is Fonseca. I am a descendant of Sephardim. Being a Mexican of Jewish descent, that makes me a Menschican.
ultimate under-rated comment.
Am Israel Chai!!
Im from los altos de Jalisco. My aunt passed from breast cancer and i lived in New Mexico, U.S.A and learned about the Spanish Jews. I did ancestry and found out I have Jewish ancestry.
Es cierto qué hay mucha gente con el pelo rubio y ojos claros en Los Altos?
how much, just out of curiosity
@@RealalmaPrácticamente todos, it is true.
there are certain kinds of health issues which Sephardic Jews are more prone to. I am guessing you reached out to find out about that? I think they have a center in a big hospital in Denver that has been doing research on this.
@@EricAlanWeinsteina lot of Chicanos in the Denver area are descended from New Mexican settlers many of these families were originally Sephardic I’m sure some of these people suffer from these diseases and malformations
Thank you for creating this video! I was doing my family tree and came across some ancestors that stated they had Jewish ancestry. When I googled some of the names, your video popped up! It’s so cool seeing the three families! For my family tree, my paternal grandparents is where I found that they’re related to those families. Never would I have thought I had Jewish ancestry! Thank you again for this very elaborate and thoroughly put together video!!! I love how you can tell you’re very passionate about this, it made this video captivating!
Fantastic and very informative presentation! Thank you.
Great presentation - very informative!
I cannot believe my eyes!! I was raised hearing bits and pieces of this genealogy! Thank you so much!
Excelente trabajo Nefi muchas gracias.
Felicidades Nefi ! que explicación tan completa y fácil de entender! es muy emocionante e impresionante saber que aun despues de tantos siglos habemos descendientes de esas 3 familias!
Gracias. En el futuro próximo planeó hacer varias presentaciones en español hablando de estas y otras familias. Saludos!
Any leads in Michoacan? The way most rural Michoacanos speak is similar to Ladino.
My family is from Michoacan (Penjamillo). Cabello and Menchaca, who also married into Duarte
Los sobrevivientes a las torturas de la iquicicion los mandaban a michoacan lo que hoy es tierra Caliente prueba a los pelirojos la inquicicion los perseguia mira a canelo
Excelente; felicidades por encontrar a sus ancestros.
These are my ancestors My dad is from Jalisco and our last name is Velasco we are descendants of casa de Velasco I did a dna recently and I am Jewish, Spanish, basque
Excelente!!
I just found out that my last name Curiel is Sephardic and Amezquita as well is documented as Sephardic of one person. It’s interesting I ask God to show me more. Only He knows why my ancestors settled in Mexico.
Excelente trabajo 🫶🏻
Very informative. Do you have any information on who founded the town of San Jose de Los Marquez in Jalisco? Your help is greatly appreciated.
In New Mexico there’s a lot of converso descendants. In some small villages in the north there were stories of “primos” marrying and everyone has the same last names in their genealogy, the story goes that primo was a code word for the hispanos to identify who was of Jewish blood or not, those who were of Jewish blood married in between themselves.
My grandmothers last name was flores and her family roots has more sephardi last names even though she was a devoted catholic woman from southern jalisco she never found out her sephardi lineage until i did some geneology research and told her about it right before she passed .
My dad was from Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco and the history there of the colonizers of that region all lead to Sephardic origin. It’s pretty cool because I’ve always identified as Sephardic.
Mr. Salazar, are you related to the tree you demonstrated? I am orginaly from the Zacatecas area and share many of the last names in your demonstration. I would like to know if you have a connection to the family tree in your presentation. Rob Salazar
Nefi, do you offer genealogy services?
Idk why I have a feeling my family in Zacatecas is Jewish. We have the last names Mota, Alvarez, and Figueroa, Haro, Magallanes. Idk if this says anything. But we’re from a town on the border of Jalisco and Zacatecas
It looks like your share the surnames Mota and Figueroa with the presentation, so likely yes! There is so much Jewish ancestry in Nueva España, it's crazy. My own family is from Guadalajara, Jalisco, and Penjamillo, Michoacan.
Alvarez is big time Jewish
I am Figueroa too 😮😮 from Jalisco
So where did the Bañuelos surname come from? I'm very confused by the bit about the parents of Francisca (and Beatriz) de Alcocer. I thought Blanca Nuñez was their grandmother, not their mom. Can you please clarify also the Oñate/Narrihondo branch?
Has this been put in paper format, would be glad to pay for a copy. Be great if you used paypal. regards
Did you find all these records on FamilySearch? Could you do another video about how to go about doing so using FamilySearch? Can you really go back that far with the available records?
Do your family search tree. Then take an ancestors family search number (looks like 8YS2FHDD) assigned to each person and plug it into relative finder if there are enough people in your tree it will take your line back. There are many features on relative finder.
Church Records go back really far. My GGrandparents are from Madeira Island and their church records go back to the 1400's.
just start is not as hard as you may think.
mi tía se clavó muchísimo con la genealogía y estamos descubriendo que tenemos un montón de ancestros de los altos, más que nada en lagos de moreno y por un linaje nos llevan hasta juan gomez de portugal que es un hijo ilegitimo de un duque y una señora judía portuguesa de bragança y por otro lado, parece que también descendemos de pedro pacho por angela de velasco. nuestra familia estuvo como 300 y cacho años en los altos y sobre todo lagos siendo muy endogámicos y luego se movieron a león y silao, guanajuato, se siguieron esparciendo por el bajío y a la fecha son muy católicos
Hola, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco fue fundado como Santa Maria de los Lagos en 1563 por espanoles y portugueses; entre estos ultimos se encontraba el Capitan Juan Gomes Behar de Portugal, quien era hijo del Quinto Duque de Beha, Luis de Aviz de Portugal y la judia conversa Violante Gomes, conocida como La Pelicana por su belleza. El que haya terminado en estas tierras un nieto del Rey Manuel I de Portugal y bisnieto, a la vez, de los Reyes de Espana, Fernando e Isabel La Catolica, se explica por su origen no crisitiano lo que seguramente le causo no pocos problemas en la corte. Su hermano mayor, tambien ilegitimo, Antonio Crato, se sintio con los derechos y disputo la corona portuguesa a su primo segundo, el Rey de Espana Felipe II, en 1580, cosa que no pudo lograr, lo que le causo el destierro de la peninsula, para morir en Francia en 1590. La persecusion a los judios en esos tiempos no fue un juego, y varios se las ingeniaron para alejarse lo mas posible de los centros de poder de la iglesia; asi agunos de los descendientes del Capitan Juan Gomez de Portugal terminaron en las cruzadas de colonizacion de Nuevo Mexico. Uno de ellos, Nicolas de Espinoza, hijo del Capitan Jose Behar Gomez y Ortiz de anda y Maria de Espinoza, se une a Juan Paez de Hurtado en 1690 en la reconquista de Santa Fe. A la fecha, muchos de sus descendientes, que portan el apellido Espinoza, se encuentran en Nuevo Mexico, Colorado y California. Mi esposa es una de ellos. Saludos.
yo tambien soy descendiente de Pedro Pacho !! y no se la Mujer que mencionas el Violante La pelicana Fernandez Gomez de Portugal o Jonati Paloma bat Gedaliah? ellas dos son mis ancestros.
Omg wow 😢
Wow, this is amazing! I have some of those names in my tree. Is there is any additional information on the Vera family descendants? I have a family line going back to Juana de Vera y Monroy, c. 1610-1660, from Etzatlan, Jalisco married to Hernando Balderrabano.
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In 1492, Castile and Aragon (Spain) gave an ultimatum to the Jews: convert to Catholicism or leave. This presentation tells the story of three families that stayed but continued facing persecution and their voyage to the new world.
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Do you anything about the Pelayo brothers that founded Santa Rosaliá?
Do you have names of the brothers?
@@aniuxka2457 Hello! I don't....I had read an article written by a young woman who lives in the states who traced back her ancestors to the "Pelayo brothers" who founded the town of Santa Rosalia, Mexico - my father's ancestors (eight generations back) founded that town. According to the article, the Pelayos were Jewish who fled Spain due to persecution for being Jewish.
Question: Did Don Diego Tremiño de Velasco have a son named Diego Treviño? I found that Diego Treviño 's daughter Doña Juana de Treviño married el capitán don Marcos Alonso de la Garza y del Arcón (my ancestors). I have not found a connection and I was wondering if you have any knowledge of any relationship between Don Diego Tremiño de Velasco and Diego Treviño? Your family tree above does not show any connection. Thank you for your work and presentation. BTW: Diego Flores de la Torre and Enos Louis Garza Flores are both descendants of Diego Pérez de la Torre. We are first cousins 15 times removed.
Diego Temiño de Velasco and Francisca de Alcocer had a son named Diego... but he was a dominic friar... Fray Diego de Temiño. He went back to Spain to obtain documentation about their nobility from the Temiño and Bañuelos sides for himself and his brother Baltasar who was the heir to a Mayorazgo.
The Diego de Temiño/Tremiño/Treviño who was the husband of Beatriz de Quintanilla living in Mexico City during the 1500s and became the ancestor of most families in Nuevo Leon is a different Diego. They MIGHT have been related in some other way, but it's unknown at this moment.
@@arenasnefi Thank you. I have never found the connection.
@@arenasnefi check this link to Diego Temino de Velasco. I am his descendant thru Maria Ana Temino Banuelos married to Pedro Pacho.
Just found this in my Genealogy research. Thank You for the breakdown.🏹🤎
Lorenzo de Padilla Dávila, my 12th great grandfather
Saludos a los Montemayor de Higueras NL ❤
Wow! Soy descendiente directo de Hernando de Padilla Davila, de los altos de Jalisco. Ya habia escuchado de que los origenes son de Jerez de la Frontera, pero no de que teniamos origen Judio, lo que me llamo la atencion porque en un examen de ADN que me realicé tengo cerca de 4% pero Judio Askenazi
Donde se puede hacer una prueba de adn ?
Donde pido ese examen del adn??
The Ashkenazi is actually Sephardic dna. And it’s much higher then it gives you. The only reason it says 4% because it’s telling you there’s Jewish dna in there but they’re unable to calculate the right percentage due to the dna being so ancient
@@J3nnyGutierrez 23andme solo qrecuerda que el gene de Sefarad lo incluyen como Sapanol/portugues
The original of the Ashkenazi jews and the Sphardic sews is the same. They spread through the rine and Ibirian peninsula from Rome, so they have common DNA
Family Search says I have all types of crypto and converso Jewish lineage. Capitán Blas María de la Garza Falcón is my 9th great-grandfather, according to the site.
That's awesome!
Are these “conversos” known as “Ladinos”?
I have Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish ancestry but Salvation has nothing to do with flesh you must be born again and belong to JESUS THE CHRIST. I'm so grateful to be a new creature no longer of the old man but of the new Adam
There is a very good translation to convey these two religions Jewish from Jalisco maybe these race , or like Martin Sheen has said on his son's show the new Mexican Jew race is something. Like really popular to stay up on.
Can you do Jalomo & Salomo? Because thats my Mexican grandmas name. And we think that we have jewish ancestry. She is from san marcos which is near Jalisco. My last name is Spaniard, it is Anguiano.
Alcocer, Diaz, Cetina, Marin, Rivas etc. are all part of my family surnames and after DNA tests it’s sure there’s Ashkenazi and Sephardic ancestry in my family in Yucatán
NO ANY JEW THAT MIXED WITH ANY OTHER RACE BESIDES WHITES OF ABAHAM WERE CUT OFF BY GOD UP TO THE CRUCIFICTION
Sefaradim will often get DNA results showing Ashkenazi ancestry. This is because: 1) the dna profiles of Sefaradim and Ashkenazim are almost identical, and 2) the dna companies have, in the US , a lot more Ashkenazi samples and a smaller number of Sefaradi samples
Question Im Mexican and I did ancestry it says 2% Jewish, does that mean I have some Jewish in me or no?
Yea you have 2% Jewish in you lol
If you have DNA matches with Jewish ancestry, it means you likely had Jewish ancestors. How far back is harder to say. But if you have the blood (i.e., DNA markers), you have the ancestry.
Yes!
More biological vs cultural but spiritually that's your choice.
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From what I've learned, you can be 68 percent Jewish biologically but without the culture you're not jewish
From what I can figure, 2% means that you had a couple of Jewish ancestors around seven generations back. If that 2% goes back further, to the tenth generation, its possibly represents two hundred Jewish ancestors!
hello everyone. i am a descendant of this families, we always knew we came from Jews our grandfather taught us Jerusalem de oro donde vive y Reyna Dios Padre, por Gloria por siempre Amen. also am researching the genealogical records and find a very interesting place called Extremadura, Espana were the Spanish in Jalisco, Michoacan and Guanajuato accent is very similar and were most of them came from.
Hi from DFW Texas both sides of family from Jalisco Guanajuato and Aguascalientes also Michoacan but most started in Jalisco interesting
@antoniocledesma1446 All these estates are formerly known as Nueva Galicia. Is a possibility you are decent from this family trees as well.
@@aniuxka2457
Yes it's quite interesting how all these things came about but I'm grateful to The Savior for His love for all and Israel the apple of His eye I pray for the Shalom of Jerusalem. Yes I've heard about the nueva Galicia Jalisco I want to visit someday soon all the states mentioned.
Do you have any Ledesmas or Gutierrez
In family?
@antoniocledesma1446 I can't remember about the Ledesmas, but I do have Gutierrez. I will look into it and share it with you in the next few couple days.
I am a Perez on my grandmothers side. The family came from Spain. How can I find out if I’m s descendant from the tribe of Judah. I think I am.
I'm a descendant of Juan Baptista Chapa. ( Giovanni Schiapapria of Albisola Italy)
Imagine my surprise, a mestizo Mexican like me getting my DNA checked and finding I also have quite a bit Ashkenazi Jew DNA.😮
Are the Figueroa in that family tree Jews also
Do you have more names? There are some figueroa that came from Caceres, Extremadura Spain.
Tello de Orosco Sephardic?
There were other priests that ran the Aztec empire that moved in, and it could’ve been Catholics. Somebody told him cannibalism and wiped out all the children in the whole empire, and that’s horrible. Nobody should murder their children. That’s a gift from God he told us to be fruitful and multiply for a reason Life can be a beautiful thing as man just love this neighbor, and is respecting God’s creation.
Hello can you please respond reply whenever your able to thank you. I'm very interested
DNA tests to confirm?
2% Jewish and having origins in Jalisco it makes sense
They’re very smart they went all the noble peace prize is to why do you think? Why do you think that the Jewish children of Israel were God’s favorites his pick and they were but I know one thing the Jewish people kept God alive. Their stories helped me find God. I’m gonna keep my faith mighty because it’s all I have. I can’t give that up without God it would all been worth it, and I love it and same with all the little children that were sacrificed to pagan gods eye care about them throughout all the generations
So do they make tacos and overcharge for the salsa
No, they franchise the salsa making, thus spreading it worldwide, and spawn/inspire others to be entrepreneurs!
@@carlc5748
Then they overcharge for the salsa 🤣
that is very anti-Semitic. tell me of a Jew directly toke your money
Also, the reason many Jews and recent converts were able to come to America was because those in charge to let Spanish migrate were Jews descendants, conversos as well.
Then saying tha just 3 families arrived to the new Galicia is of a lot of ignorance!
Hence why Mexicans seem to be often related to Ashkenazi Jews. I match a fair few Mexicans I’m a Jew lol
My brother took a dna test and it came back saying his dna had a percentage of ashkenazi Jew.. I wish I could follow and find out from where.. I have a feeling it might be from my mother’s side since they have some habits or traditions that seem similar to some Jewish traditions. My family is from Jalisco
I am Mexican American and have many Jewish matches, mostly distant cousins.
Is an error to think that Jews are only Ashkenazim because of fair complexity. Sefardim are the majority in New Galicia.
I'm 1% Ashkenazi according to 23 and me. I'm Mexican
So you're Jewish too!
if you have Spanish/Portuguese most likely you are Sefardic Jew.
Nope. Test says 0% for me and mtdna is a Native American haplogroup indigenous people of this mexican state.
First of all why not do this video in Spanish since you are talking about the Spanish Inquisition to America Mexico specific, the why Spanish when they first arrived to America they were all Spanish without any Semitic group, when clearly by that time Jews were persecuted and many wanted to scape because the Spanish expelled them to the kingdom, this is something I found myself be incorrect they were more Jews coming to America than what many say wanting to cover the truth because that’s how it’s been say by the elites of the world for their convenience. Shalom
We Jews love to learn you’ll be hard pressed to find Jews living off the State except maybe some Hasidic Jews.
😂
Especially in Israel...
The Spanish weren’t the Jews it was their priest
what do you mean ?
So you saying Spaniards are jewish decendants
A lot of Spaniards and Portuguese have Jewish ancestry. Many Iberians that came to the new colonies were conversos who bought their way because only old Christians could come to the new world.
No. Spaniards are R1b paternal haplogroup and maternal haplogroup H. The jew descendants belong to a different haplogroups
The Aztec Indian priest was Jewish and he was white and it’s very obvious and it is noted as written. The great grandson of Noah is Voltan, the Aztec priest, and there was peace when he reigned
Jajajaja.
No 98% of the world was enslaved. Jesus was a slave that’s what people don’t understand. They think Elijah went up in a chariot of fire and God took him and he never died. Elijah was sacrificed and sent back if you believe your Bible and if God can do that and he can bring all those children back and that’s what I pray for.
where in the Bible can we find that Elijah was sacrificed? also yes There is the promise of God to bring back home Zephaniah 3:20, Psalms 105:12-13 Jeremiah 16:14-15 among others. He promised and He Will. Baruch Hashem !
This is a profesional post on ancestry, genealogy and history NOT a religious one. Your Jesús/Bible comments are completely pointless.
Dang! Jews mixed with Mexicans! 🤦♂️🤦♀️🤦
No... many Iberians Jews were converted to Christianity by force. They were called new Christians, together with converted Muslims. They were Jews by religion and by heritage. These new Iberian Christians moved to the new world. Some of the new Christians reverted to Judaism and most conversos did not but continued with Jewish costumes without knowledge of their origins. In the new world the new Christians were assimilated, but now we realized that most of us are descendants of these conversos. All Latinamerica has descendants of conversos, and a lot have kept Jewish customs thinking they were Spanish Christians customs.
Dang you didn't listen.
Ancestry doesn't justify or save you. The blood of Yeshua does! By way of Him and only Him, we become part of the Commonwealth of Yisrael.
Where is that in the 5 books of the Bible? Or the books of prophets? God is against human sacrifice, and that my friend is in the original word of God (OT)
My ancestors bought the name Cejudo and became Catholic.I know nothing of my Jewish ancestry.
It would be good to have a followup on immigration on the centuries following up to 1900.
what in particular are you looking for?
The Jewish diaspora are everywhere on the planet and Latin America is a particularly big hub.
Hello. What a wonderful video. I also have numerous Jewish ancestors who left Spain to head to Canary Islands and The Americas. My 12th great grandfather was Francisco de la Mata ( A Converso) born in Toledo, Castillo de la Mancha, España but headed to The Canary islands. He had a son called Don Alvaro de la Mata ( Doctor) born in Hita, Guadalajara, Castilla-La Mancha, Spain and died 1561. He married Dona Ginebra de Palenzuela y Bolanos in 1503 in Telde, Gran Canaria, Spain. Ginebra ancestry is from Burgos and her parents were Alfonso Rodríguez de Palenzuela born circa 1474 in Burgos and married Francisca Mayorga y Bolanos and her parents were Juan de Mayorga (Converso) and took part in the conquering of The Island of Lanzarote, Spain. Alfonso married Juana de Bolanos. I also have Moorish ancestors. I would love to know if my de la Mata is really de la Mota? : billcbl2010@gmail.com