I TESTED A CAT8 CABLE, HERE'S WHAT I LEARNED!
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0:00:00 What is Cat8 Ethernet?
0:00:50 Do Most Home Need Cat8?
0:01:05 Cat8 Specs
0:01:51 Average American and Global Internet Speeds
0:03:03 Speed Test Cat8 Versus Cat6 on a PS5
0:03:47 Speed Test Results
0:04:14 Do you need Cat8?
0:04:30 Final Thoughts
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As a gamer it's not about the speed we're worried about, it's the ping, Cat8 gives me a better ping. 10-15 lower than when I use Cat6. speed tests are very close but ping is the big difference.
That’s what I’m saying .he ain’t even talked about that
@@bakkkdoorslime300yes
Yeah same here i just care about the ping, wheres the ping test on the ps5?
I just switch to cat8 cable, my home has 1000mbps/1000mbps internet package and all my equipment is compatible with 1 gb lan, after speedtest by oakla test, I have to agree here that I got much more stable connection and around 10-20mbps faster than my old cat5e (this cable is like 5-6 years old) and just 1-2 lower ping in some game, for a little upgrade its very worth it for me since I'm not even 5 meters away from my router.
I get 0 Ping on fortnite with Google fiber and that’s without an Ethernet cable
I think most people considering CAT 8 are not thinking "What is the fastest speed I can get right now?" They are instead asking "What cable should I go through the trouble of buying, or installing in my walls, so that I won't regret it in 10-30 years."
In that case I’d wait a bit longer until the Ethernet cables become straight up fibre optic cables
@@zakapholiac9377why wait? To my knowledge there’s already a way to connect an Ethernet cable to pc but it’s complicated and requires adapters and what not.
Tbh that’s why I got it. Future proof for cheap
Back in the 90s I ran Cat5 in my house. A few years ago I ripped it all out and ran Cat8. Future proofing. Getting too old to crawl under the house 😢
Cat8 gives you bragging rights to all your nerdy friends! Lol! Your house is set for the next 20 years! Congrats!
Funny thing is Cat5 is probably all you need for the next 10 years, but that's a great idea and thought. I'm on the same page as you. As for this video. meh, I thought a test was going to be an internal 10gb switch and 2 10gb NICs with 2 different desktops were going to show XXX for speed. But instead I got crappy PS5 doing an internet test. Your comment is the best btw
@@joeblow7735 That is absolutely not true. First, internet speeds provided by ISPs rise quickly worldwide. And second, Ethernet cables at home don't carry only data to/from WAN. If you have a home network that consists of more then one cable then a chance is that you will benefit from having a NAS or in next few years you'll just want to utilize some form of internal file transfer and for those you need that 1Gbps.
Higher cable categories are not only for better transfer speeds but more importantly for better signal integrity. Cat5 is right now very outdated being able to negotiate 1Gbps only in some favorable conditions. Even Cat5e in some more complex setups with parallel runs and/or near electrical wires will struggle to negotiate 1Gbps unless you have a high quality shielded cable. And being on the edge of good/bad signal integrity is even worse than having bad signal integrity, because you'll have random drops in speeds or failed negotiations.
To me Cat6 and Cat6a are a sweet spot between price, capabilities and ease of installation and maintenance. They will have no issue negotiating 1Gbps (or 10Gbps for 6A) even if not laid or terminated perfectly, they can be terminated with basic tools and they are only a fraction more expensive than Cat5e.
@@joeblow7735cat 5 can only get 100mb/s so you are wrong because cat 5e can get 1000mb/s
I can assure you my speeds were not changed much but changing cat 5 to cat 8 patch cable today it was noticeably faster for games. Now it’s time to rewire the house. 😂😂😂
This is just GREAT. I’m pretty dumb and you explained this so well that I actually understood most of what you said. Just don’t ask me to repeat back what you said. Now where’s that bell icon….
Bell ICON is next to the subscribe button! Lol! Thank you for watching! Cheers!
I went from cat 6 too 8 and I went from 8mb/s too 26 mb/s it’s an awesome improvement for people that are already on very bad WiFi
Glad Cat8 helped your speeds! Thank you for watching erictap174!
Just so ya know, rolling it up like that can cause some interference. Which... that's why it has all that shielding and the only real difference between Cat6a and Cat7 is that it's more resistant to interference. They both support 10Gbps if my memory serves me. You MIGHT get different results if you straightened the Cat6 cable out instead of rolling it up. Maybe not, it could be a quality factor. It's just something I've noticed and seen cause issues in large companies that have way too long of cable and they just roll it up in the ceiling. But that's usually like 25-50 feet of cable coiled up.
My recommendation is to use CAT 8 whenever is possible because it is future proof and is not that expensive, it offers better speeds and shielding than CAT6 which is more than 20 years old, therefore installing it in a home that doesn’t need a lot of metres through the walls is a good idea especially if electrical and TV/Satellite cables are next to it, any interferences and faults can be ruled out
As a matter of fact, I used to have problems with the network in two properties, decided to replace all the CAT6 cables with 7a and 8, the stability and the speed is much better now
Cat6a fully shielded twisted pair is damn near identical. It also push more than 10Gbps for shorter distances. The thicker gauge is even better for PoE++ I have found the industry standards mean squat since mist of its all made china andnsomen sellers and MFGs don't care. I only use FSTP unless it's for a 100m camera or shared printer then I'll use cat5e. If there isn't too much distance or interference cat5E can often push 2.5Gbps I even saw a guy push 5Gpbs over 5E
The internet providers are never gonna increase their speeds. There's no money in it. They can just raise prices for the same speeds. I pay $120/mon for 200mb download speeds in a big developed place. That's all I get, but the prices increase each year. $120 just for slow internet, nothing else. Home users are never going to get faster speeds. The big providers will find ways to charge more for less. Cat5e is all you'll ever need.
Fiber is cheap too, and less power consumption
@@josephfilm73 Just went from a 500Mbps($60/m) plan to a 1.5Gbps($50/month) plan...
@@josephfilm73dam they are really that cheap with the speed. I pay 7 dollars more and get over 500.
Being a network engineer, now retired. For me, I went with Cat8 in my home. I do hae it set for 10gps and all my pc's and switches from UI only, I achieve this easy. The cost for 6/7 vs 8 was only a few bucks. I went with ahigher end smaller AWG wire. Yes it was so thick on the outside and hard to put more than 4 in a wall box when it cam time to enter my network switch area as I was trying to make this a good look and setup if and when I ever sell the home. Anyhow, Cat8 was and is my choices, it is not about my outside internet. I do get speeds of about 830 each direction with TruFiber up here in MI, and I also have a back up using Starlink. My 2 cents in this subject. Thanks for the speed tests. For most this is overkill. But for me it was more internal sever to my pc type of thing.
Internal Server to PC is exactly what Cat8 or Cat7 should be used for. It's funny everyone is passionate about there opinions on ethernet types and which ones to use or not to use. If you can afford Cat8 and you have a reason to use it like your situation then it makes sense. My situation Cat6a or Cat6 is plenty for my needs ( 1gig Fiber from CenturyLink 940 up and 940 down ). And to be honest Cat8 and Cat7 are both very affordable and worth the extra price for future-proofing your home. Enjoy the cat8 and thanks for great comments.
@@UltimateTechHub Your welcome. The thing that people need todo is think ahea don what their end goal is. Me, I wanted 10GB networking, I had all the stuff, and CAt8 was affordable and since I was going to have 3 lines very long, this made sense. In fact, I ran 2 lines to my garage from my home, one Fiber and one CAT8 (Backup lines). I had intentions from the word GO to get the fastest I could get. I get 10GB even in my garage which is about 109 feet away those cables being 120 feet long. Anyhow, wish more peopel understood the process, and wish the industry would settle down LOL Have a great weekend
@MarkWariner Have a great weekend too!
@@UltimateTechHub Hello, i have the same cat 8 cable, is this waterproof? can i use it for the unfi ai camera outside?
This cable is good for online games where minimal latency is important and there are no lags.
For my specific use case, I have been moving over from CAT6 to CAT8 for better bonding/grounding of my low voltage components. I’m in SE Louisiana & have lost at least two network switches, an Apple TV, and a $500 Netgear router due to storm electrical surges entering low voltage ports on those devices. (None of which use 3 prong power cords) I have not had those issues after switching to CAT8 and star grounding as much equipment as possible. But again, specific use case.
To be honest for short runs the difference between Cat 6, 7 and 8 is about a few quid in the UK. So, it makes more sense to run Cat 8 within the trunking and be done with it for along while.
It's funny extra 25 mbps isn't considered a big difference nowadays because back in the day when I used to play Black Ops 1 and Gears of War 2 alot, my ISP was a 25 mbps connection lol. really cool including the test to show the difference though. I bought a cat 7 cable Amazon Basics brand a years ago. Amazon makes their own Cat 7 it's stamped right on the cable. I decided to buy it because it's got better shielding than cat 6 and it was literally just like an extra $1 to get it.
I don't know man... some homeowners actually do use high speed networking so they can put a NAS somewhere else and stream whatever. Especially with 2.5Gb-10Gb ethernet ports becoming more common on both computers and network gear. Even internet speeds are at the point where gig+ is fairly common.
That being said, Cat8 is probably still overkill. I don't know if I just got lucky or whatever, but I ran some Cat5e about 100+ feet when I redid some wiring to a detached garage, and a couple years back I picked up some multi-gig switches to connect house to garage. I was expecting it to negotiate 2.5 gigabit, maybe 5, but it connected right up at 10 gig and seems steady (no real issues with dropped packets). Especially surprising to me since this is running in an underground conduit with 240V power, so I figured there'd be some interference.
At the time, the Cat5e cable was just what I had, and I hadn't planned for anything more than 1 Gb/s but all the cabling I buy nowadays is Cat6 which has also performed wonderfully at 10Gb speeds, although I haven't tested any runs of that at distances beyond a couple dozen feet.
That's all switch-to-switch connections... for my computer-to-switch connections on 10 gig, I'm using SFP modules with DAC since they're pretty affordable, and I happened to have dual 10Gb PCI cards with SFP, not 10Gb RJ-45, but knowing what I know now, I'm sure the Cat6 could easily handle short runs.
My vote is, if you're wiring a smart home, stick with Cat6 and you'll be fine for years to come assuming you don't expect 40+ Gb speeds out of it down the road. :) Unless you come across a great bargain on a spool of Cat7 that you just can't pass up. I'd personally skip fiber entirely just because terminating it is a pain and snaking it through walls and voids means being more careful about avoiding kinks or making sure you don't bend it too much on a curve, plus the SFP modules tend to be more expensive and use more power per port.
I may be an atypical home networker since it's also part of my day job, but there are more of us out there than you think who dabble in such things.
I love the great comment and for most people Cat8 just isn't necessary but for us Networking geeks and Cat8 is a must so we can transfer massive files quickly especially files over 20 gigs. We know time is money and waiting hours to transfer larger files is not productive. However I have Cat6a and my large file transfers move quickly and we just streamed The Bourne Identity from my TrueNAS scale Plex server from our home in Las Vegas to our hotel in Paris and no buffering issues at all! Cat6a can handle most home networking tasks but Cat8 would work as well. At some point I might just got full fiber connections! Thanks for watching!
STP and ScTP usage were more common in Europe and Las Vegas hotels until Cat 8.
We have reached the end of economical Copper bandwidth expansion.
The major Internet Service providers are continuing to replace Copper Twisted Pair and Coax
in local neighborhoods (based on subscription $$ and to avoid customer loss to 5G wireless providers).
Fiber Optic should be considered for longer lengths or high bandwidth.
Thanks to AT&T fiber optic expansion, more technicians and
small towns are educated in proper termination and usage.
Thanks for great comments and yes fiber is becoming more prevalent. However with fiber you need more specialized equipment that costs more money so ethernet still has its place in most home networks. Business networks will increase fiber connections for sure. Thank you for watching!
Not sure that using a variable internet connection with a speediest is the best way to do testing - local iPerf3 sever and client would likely give you something more comparable and repeatable
Yep I installed cat 8 that extra 5 10 totally worth it especially since you don't have as much crosstalk between the lines or corrective actions needed by your ethernet adapter
What brand did you go with? Im trying to find a trusted brand
@@REDRIVER-xt2ie, I bought some from UGreen & CableGeeker.
Great informative video. I'm installing cable for the future. I understand that Cat 6A will suffice for my TV or computer now, but I'm wondering about 5-10+ years from now. Is installing Cat 8 now future proofing my home network? Many Thanks, Sean
I would go with Cat8 if you are thinking 10 years out. If your moving in the next few years Cat6a will do just fine. Glad you liked the video and thank you so much for watching. Have a great day!
@@UltimateTechHub Thank you 👍
Nice test and video, I liked it 🎉.
Thank you for watching, liking and the great comment! 😀
Nice review,I also noticed on my home system as cat8 cable has slightly higher transfer rate . As I know some people using cat8 cable even for 1gb networking in case where EMI is strong and cat6 wire not working reliable.
If you can afford Cat8 then it's a nice upgrade. It doesn't always improve transfer rates because it depends on your home network equipment and ISP max speeds. Thanks for the great comments and for watching!
Amazing video. You the man.
Thank you for watching and for the great comment! 😄
Thanks for this. I’m moving to a new place and getting a new router, and will be needing to buy some new Ethernet to wire my devices. Guess I’ll pass on Cat 8 for now.
In most cases, Cat6 is plenty! Thank you for watching!
I think Cat 8 is more for faster backup speeds in LAN rather than for internet! We all want faster transfer speed among computers and NAS!
When installing ethernet around your home.. install pvc piping to the point from the access panel so your cables are protected.. also run a cable run cable so if needbe, a csble cable be run to either replace or run alongside and never eorry about rodents snd pests chewing through your cables.
Using the UGreen Cat 8 6FT cable going from our fiber uplink to the firewall & its working like a charm!! Fast & reliable speeds
UGreen makes great cat8 cables! Congrats!
@@UltimateTechHub I have an ethernet port in my laptop which I did not know but my cat 5e eternet cable does not fit into it, if I buy a cat 8 cable will that fit into my laptop port?
@Angel05433 Cat5e should fit. Maybe the end of the cat5e is broken.
@@UltimateTechHub well the one I got came with my wifi modem I think those are usually bigger i think?
@@UltimateTechHub and will a cat 8 fit into my ps4?
You are still limited by your ISP's connection, so your test can't come close to Cat 8's potential. If you have a NAS on your local network connected with CAT8 doing some file transfer tests would be a better comparison.
I only tested what most people have in there homes to see if it makes a difference. Of course ISP speed is your max possible internet speeds. I don't have 10gig NICs on our PCs so I cant test file transfer speeds but if I did I would have done that. Thanks for watching!
Thanks very much.
You're welcome!
Thank you for the real time test. Have a scheduled appointment for 8 gig, bought my new WiFi 7 netgear router. I was wondering on cable where I should go. Seeing that total usage of cat8 is far off, as of current, and cat 6a is still kind of mainstream, I didn’t see any negatives for using cat 8 besides price, so will going with a short cat8 cable from router to computer, that will keep cost down. And will wait before I do the entire house of cat8 wiring, after all , like you said, really can’t use cat 8. But for a few feet it doesn’t hurt for maybe couple mbps. Thank you for the video. It made me makes decision I have been debating over and over.
8 gig is AWESOME! Congrats and Netgear makes fantastic wifi7 routers! You are definitely correct to connect a cat8 from router to computer just make sure your computers NIC is a 10gig NIC so you can utilize the speed and bandwidth. Also connect a cat8 from your modem or fiber ONT to the routers WAN port. What company are using for 8gig?
@@UltimateTechHub Here we got Windstream, appreciate it very much
If I was building a new house I would install Cat 8 and fiber runs throughout the house!!!
I would plan for the future rather that having to go back and do it over it 10 to 15 years!!!
Me too! If I had bear walls no drywall I would run multiple Cat8 lines to every room and fiber lines with smurf tubes! Thanks for watching!
There is no point to Cat 8. There is to single mode fiber.
How do you know if your home has enough interference to warrant a CAT 8 purchase? I have a PS5, 65" flat-screen, custom built PC circa 2009 (fast enough for my MMO gaming needs) all within 3 feet of each other. My cell phones drop WIFI connection with the TP link AC 1750 router. Network cables are CAT5. I must have interference. I love streaming. Can ya'll convince me what to do?
my issue not quite as bad but worse my wifi connections are iffy at best tried going wifi for my desktops and it worked great at 10 PM daytime pointless while for the longest time we have been dealing with switches ad network cards failing at random most often I can reset them but lets just say I keep spares on hand so now running cat 8 for a 35 and 50 foot run as well as cat7 to my wifi router which is a 6 foot run and then I have 2 1 foot runs one from the modem to my dedicated firewall applince and another 1 foot from their to my switch for 2 desktops and wifi router this is likely to solve the problem but funny as nothing published about how cat8 will help with EMI its clearly gonna help I would say its better to just use cat 8 if you have this type of issue unless flexibilty is an issue on a short run then cat 6a or cat 7 I think cat 7 is oh so slightly better but its not supper critical on a 6 foot run and my 2 one foot runs are just cat 6 gonna see how this works I do not see how the the one foot runs are gonna pick anything up unless lighting strikes the sidewalk just outside the window
But what is freezing my wifi connection on my phone? Any guesses. I'll have to toggle the wifi button or turn airplane mode on just to refresh the wifi use or use my cellular signal for the internet to work again. I'll have to do this 25 times a day! Its crazy.
You're really good at explaining stuff thanks for the work put in the vid dude!
Thank you for kind comments and thank you for watching I really appreciate it.
And he doesnt dive into esoteric jargon like other channels just to show off knowledge to people who have no idea what the terms even mean
Impede on what medium you have runnin in the house from the outside??
Use fibre upgrade through the house snd never have to worry about touching it again.
Simply run fibre cable with ethernet terminators.
20+ extra speed, for 5 more bucks? I guess its worth it, maybe its not if you are using pc network with 20 machines on long distance. But for gamer with single PC it definitely worth it
When u connect any Ethernet cable to ur Xbox and ur wired in do u need to worry about dns settings or change it or just does Ethernet have there own like do u need to worry about that dns stuff on Xbox settings plz respond
DNS settings don't need to be changed.
Hmm.. I haven't got any speed differences home between even Cat 5, Cat 5E, Cat 6 and Cat 8. My internet speed is about the same as yours also. I'd buy Cat 8 again to be future proof though. Another thing to mention is how stiff the Cat 8 cables are.
Do you have a motherboard and router with an 2.5Gb Ethernet connection ? I think this also plays a huge part. I do notice a big difference myself ever since I have a Cat8 cable ( coming from 5 ) and an 2.5Gb Ethernet mobo + router. My ISP recently also gave me a free boost from 500mpbs to 750mbps. On speedtest I get actually slightly higher at 764.61mbps download and 62mpbs upload. I notice the diffence in regular browsing,using youtube everything is snappy and loads instant,zero buffering ever. And I def notice it in online games aswell.
Want to add also make sure to set the correct speed in your Nic setting,and disable the power saving features/green ethernet etc.
Another trick,a bit more complex,it might be your autotune is not working correct aswell,throttling your speed. open up CMD with admin rights and type "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled " After that reboot ,open up CMD again and enter "netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal".
While were busy make sure RSS is enabled aswell. In CMD type "netsh int tcp set global rss=enabled".
This is what RSS does "When Receive Side Scaling (RSS) is enabled, all of the receive data processing for a particular TCP connection is shared across multiple processors or processor cores. Without RSS, all of the processing is performed by a single processor, resulting in inefficient system cache utilization."
It will definitely be need in the future unless, all connection goes fiber🤷♂️
That would great to see homes with fiber runs but the equipment upgrades would drain your bank account!
There is no future or point to it. There is for fiber.
I'm not lucky enough to have a PS5 (:0) but is that the top download speed that you're able to get out of it? Seems slow compared to your 1Gb plan.
For a PS5 you don't need more than 300Mbps for an excellent gaming experience ! You will never get 1 gig speeds on your PS5. Thank you for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub I see that this is a common complaint amongst PS5 owners. I'm curious have you tested the connection speed bypassing your Pi-Hole DNS Server and if so what were those results?
@kevinoconnor6570 I get 300 almost wireless I haven't tried wiring it with the cat 8 tbh I've got my Xbox in a cat 8 and I get 860 max 910.... Wireless on the Xbox I get 250
Also I really wish you would've shown the ms response time, latency and packet loss from the 6 vs 8.
Check this video I did. czcams.com/video/HQJ1DQle3zA/video.html
My ISP provides me 70mbps internet connection. My motherboard support 2.5gbps lan port. Should i use Cat 8 or Cat 6? My main priority is Gaming.
Cat6
I have a two story home where the modem is on the second floor. Then I have an apartment on top of my garage outside the house. So when the house was built the cat6 start on the second floor down to the first out the house to the garage up the wall to the apartment. Average 80 to 100 feet after all the travel. The cable is under the house. Any idea on how to convert the cat6 to cat 8? The question is because the Internet is not so good at the end point via the cat 6.
If the cat6 is NOT secured to the inside walls with clips then you can attach a Cat8 to one end of the Cat6 and pull it through the wall slowly. It should work unless the cat6 is secured to inside the walls. Otherwise you will have to run the Cat8 through new wire drops. Keep me posted.
what's the point of Cat 8 cable, if the network equipment is slower than the medium?
Cat 6a would be enough for 25gb network for the future?
I'm going to do a total renovation and i want it ready for the next 20 years. Should i fi with fiber optics instead?
Cat6a is plenty of speed for almost any situation. Its also budget friendly and easier to install than fiber optics. I would run Cat6a, that's what I have in my home with a few cat6 riser cable runs as well. Cat6 will also run between 1gig at a max run of 121ft so cat6 riser is all need for short runs. Good luck and keep me posted. Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub i think cat 6a is enough for 10gbps for 100 meters, but I don'tt know if for shorter distances it can achieve higher speeds. My plan is to have in a few years a 25gbps network
@barygol Well Cat8 is your next choice or fiber. Cat8 is still cheaper.
Thank you
You're welcome and thank you for watching! 😀
How do you like your ASUS multi antenna gaming router? I'm in the market to buy a new wifi router.
The ASUS Router has been working great for the last 4 months of testing. No connection issues or slow speeds. I have a review video for it. Let me know if you want the video link.
Is cat8 good for gaming. I mean in terms of packet loss ?
Yes, its exceptional!
TLDR: Cat6a all the way for Future Proofing. Also anything above is not "Officially Rated".
CAT 6E enough for home networking? OR Go to CAT 6A ?
Please answer me?
Cat6a is plenty.
Can i plug my cat 8 from my modem to my router then another cat 8 to my xbox or ps5? Ive got one from my router to my consoles but will it make a different replacing the standard one inbetween my modem and router with a cat ?.... Because since i went wired my latency has been worse honestly
Yes you can. It should help with the latency. Keep me posted.
I'm still using CAT5e cable and it gives me 1 Gbps speed. More than enough for me.
In most cases, Cat5e and Cat6 are all you need. Thanks for watching I really appreciate it.
Sir I have a question please try to reply... If I buy Cat 8 cable. So do I need a gaming router 5ghz? Or the internet will be faster than a normal router 2.5ghz.
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A gaming router is only necessary for faster Wi-Fi and more customizations and gaming features. If you are going wired then your current router will work just fine.
@@UltimateTechHub suggest me which one better
@@SRv_DEy Wired will always be better and faster.
Cool video. Now test it with two home offices on separate Teams meetings, 2 TVs streaming HD, a gaming laptop running counter strike, then move a 500mb 3d file from a desktop workstation to a NAS. Time how long it takes the file to move with all this going on. I bet you'll see a HUGE difference. :) Welcome to my everyday.
Absolutely HUGE difference in your situation! Your situation is very rare but that's what Cat8 is for! You are moving tons of data all at once so Cat8 is the choice for sure or even cat7. If I could rewire my house easily, I would rewire with all cat8 just be future-proofed and so I could brag to all my nerdy friends! Thanks for watching and for the great comments!
@@UltimateTechHub 2500 sqr ft house, did it myself with a cheap borescope from amazon tethered to fishtape. Helped a ton running wires through walls! Stayed away from exterior walls as much as possible to avoid insulation. Used CAT8 riser cable and ran 5 drops to our basement trunk. 1 gig fiber service in to a server, firewalled and filtered there before branching off to 3 different networks: Home+wifi/kids, office 1, office 2. Offices are hardwired sub-networks, Home is a wireless mesh with hardwired nodes. When the kids and their friends are over gobbling up data, the server will reserve enough bandwidth for us to do business without the kids complaining about quality, lag, or speed. When it detects a large file being moved, that takes priority until the transfer is complete. Really wasn't all that expensive to do! Whole upgrade for less than $1500. Key is mapping out demand and hardware throttling for priority before using software throttling. Home+wifi is capped at 10 gigabit, as is wife's office. My business is wide open at 100 gigabit. Spend where you need it, cut back where you don't.
This scenario is fairly common in our area since most people like to live somewhat remote and work remotely or run a small business out of their house.
So cat 8 is better for areas with high electro magnetic interference ?
Cat8 will perform better for sure. Thank you for watching!
Shielded (STP) or Screened (ScTP) Twisted Pair Cable
reduces/eliminates “External Snooping” of connections using the Cable.
Did you know that Las Vegas Hotels switched to Screen and Shielded Twisted Pairs
for their cabling infrastructures 2 decades ago? “What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas”.
@@UltimateTechHubI am gonna give it a real world test get back to me in a year I or so lets see if I lose any more switches and or network cards lots of close lighting strikes at least one within 200 feet twice a year and every storm brings a few within 1000 feet talking the type of stuff that might blow up your toaster if not on a surge suppressor
It makes little sense to test it over internet. It would make much sense to test it over LAN with a 10Gbit switch. E.g between PC and NAS! Thats a very common home use case!
I wired my network on cat8 for PoE use cases. If I recall well, cat8 cables implements PoE++ and it definitely made a difference at the time. Also, as a rule of thumb, the more length I need, the higher ranking I get. Past 10 meters I'd go cat7/8 . Here also you may see a difference. Now if you just plug a PlayStation 6 inches away, don't waist your money.
Cat6a implements PoE++ and about half of my home has Cat6a runs. Less power is dissipated in a 23-gauge Category 6A cable, which means that more of the power being transferred through the cable is actually being used, improving energy efficiency and lowering operating costs. Cat7 and Cat8 will probably dissipate less power but cat6a does work well for PoE++ at long distances. Thanks for watching!
Cat 8 is a game changer for me, for streaming video games. I had an old ethernet cable hooked up from wifie 6e router to ps5, then I used Samsung Tab s9ultra to stream PS remote, play ps5 games on my tablet. It lagged 1-2 seconds intermittently, after I got the Cat 8 from router to PS5, it plays flawlessly. Yes, the improved latency is important as a gamer
Cat8 is pretty awesome and glad it works for your situation! Most people don't need it but for us few geeks its a must! Thank you for watching!
LOL. That's not a thing.
My PS5 speed test with regular wifi is 436 mbs and with CAT6 Im currently averaging 730mbs I just bought a CAT8 cable and do a retest to see the difference also with the ps5 u have to hold the power button and get into safe mode and do a system update thru that playstation does not automatic update that one.
so what's the cat8 result
What was the results for the cat8 upgrade??
I have Cat6 with 1.5Gbps. advantage of using better cable actually it comes to stability and less noise with helps for better Jitter. also using ps5 speed test is not a good Idea as their server is very slow.
Cat 8 is for router switch hub, industry with electrical noise , after the router say at home ? There is not anything else that require it , unless you xbox cloud on you uhd
I agree. Cat8 is just overkill unless you have maybe 10 gig fiber but even then cat6a will work just fine. Thanks for watching! Also, I did a recent video where I speed tested all ethernet cables types with iperf3, so make sure to check it out to see which cable performed the best.
@@UltimateTechHubI have a nich problem common near by lighting strikes and geomagnetic activity just a mile from lake michigan it destroys the abilty to use wifi from time to time sometimes just at night unless your 6 feet from the router with line of sight in the basement and induces enough current into the eithernet cables to destroy a cisco switch every 6 months to maybe a year if I am lucky and high end rj45 surge protectors for site to site runs 1-2 years before they blow its really something maybe cat6A would work but I just had it and went cat 8 for the 2 longer runs and cat 7 for a 6 foot run to my wifi router and got 2 one foot runs that are likely remain cat 6 connecting the modem applience firewall and switch I might wrap these 1 foot runs in alumuim tape with a stripped 24 awg inside the wrap to make it faux cat6A but even so the bigger part of any induction currents would be coming from the 50 and 35 foot runs not the 2 little 1 one foot runs A the modem is fiber incoming and B the firewall is a retired proliant server so its built to a higher standard the switch is a typical dlink switch with a metal casing
How about also making the routers ethernet cable CAT8… would it make a difference? Wouldn’t you be limited to the yellow ethernets cable speed first since that’s where it’s coming from??
Yes your equipment and ISP determines your max speeds.
No, it wouldn't make a different. There is no point.
I use this and I have no problem with it a tmobile home internet 50 dollars plugged into my pc a I average 500 mbps so say what you want most cat 8 is reverse compatible to 5 6 and 7
Nice video.
Thanks for watching I really appreciate it!
Just upgrade my network to cat 6 a yup its good enough for me.
I'm clueless about all this can you please help with my question. Cat8 wire would go in back of your router to your xbox . ? I'm dealing with high latency 70ms to 100ms. I called my provider they tell me everything fine . I run speed test on app called speed test by ookla and on results it's say 14ms but this never shows on my xbox
Gaming consoles are a pain when it comes to latency. This could be from the game servers or your DNS servers. I would set your DNS to the best one for your location.
@@UltimateTechHub I will try out dns maybe try Google dns . But thanks for replying back.
Hi! this is from the Philippines can I use Cat 8 for 800mbps net? Thank you
Yes
its great for input lag
I have a 1.5Gb download and I still have a cat5 cable. Should I upgrade?
Yes. Cat6 or Cat6a is your best bet. Cat5e is great for short runs but cat6 is better at longer runs.
I just upgraded my office to 10GB devices.... (added 10GB cards to my computers and the 10GB card to my Synology)
If you want to see anywhere near 10GB speed you will NEED Cat 8 cable
Cat6 or Cat6e will give you at best 2.5 to 4GB speeds.....
I invested a lot of money in my 10GB gear and it was frustrating that I was only getting about double.
and btw 10GB is not wildly expensive as it used to be.
10GB switch cost me 350.... the cards cost me 95 a piece for a total of about $700
may I ask you some questions about the 10GB devices you installed? What is your monthly cost to sustain the 10GB speeds of internet? I know nothing about electronics but have been frustrated by how little internet companies want to dish out for speeds while they jack up prices so high...
@@jaimemunoz8513 I do not have 10 Gig speed to the internet. I have 1gig speed to the internet and it is running me about $80 a month US.
I have a Nighthawk capable of 2Gigs to the internet... if I choose to upgrade to that from my ISP.
My 10GB network is between my two most used computers and my NAS. with one leg connected to the 2.5 Gig port on the Nighthawk.
Googles fiber would be cool if I could get it.
Cat8 already?
I thought Cat7 was a few years away from being widely available.
There is no point to either. There is nothing utilizing either, period.
@@0bsmith0 if you have several devices with high interference, the higher categories will surely protect better against it..
Yaaaaa I should have watched this before I spent $30 on this CAT 8 lol
Does anyone know a trusted brand? Im trying to buy cat8 from amazon and lots of comments say its not a true cat 8
Here is one I use for my home. amzn.to/49Ryf41
It also has fantastic reviews!
But in Data Center nobody use cables like this. Only fiber, cause it has the best scalability. Today you have 10 gbps on that fiber and tomorrow, if you change a gear like switches, sfp modules you can have 40 gbps on the same fiber. There will be never place for that cable, there is no sense in that. We will be probably using fiber in houses rather than Cat 8 or even Cat 7.
Thanks for the great comment and thanks for watching!
There is no point to Cat 7 or 8. It serves no purpose.
Another benefit is that fiber transceivers (SFP+/QSFP's) consume less power, and so dissipate less heat than copper UTP/STP ones, and these differences really add up when you have 50 or so packed into a 1U-height switch, or up to a few thousand in a rack. This is because running such speeds over twisted-pair requires complex modulation, equaliation, echo-cancellation, forward error-correction, etc. in the transceivers, while the much higher inherent bandwidth of fiber makes most of that unnecessary - the modules have far less "work" to do, at least until you get to 100Gbps+ bitrates over 10km+ distances. Simpler modulation also means lower latency, though usually not enough to matter. Fiber pairs also take up less space in crowded raceways, risers, etc. compared to the thicker copper cables. So, every data center I've been in uses copper (Cat6 or Cat6e) only for 1Gbps and below, fiber for anything above that, with no use of Cat7/Cat8. I did install some Cat8 at home a few years ago for a non-Ethernet application, where analog audio & video had to be carried about 80' in close proximity to power lines, figuring the additional shielding could help avoid hum/noise pickup. Remember, Ethernet is just a framing protocol, and can run over a variety of media, so (say) 40Gbase-LR over fiber is still Ethernet, whereas Cat5+ cables are sometimes used for a variety of non-Ethernet purposes, like RS232 serial consoles, dedicated timing signals, HDMI with active adapters, etc.
I could care less about the speed comparison. Show us how clean it was transmitting that data.
My problem is like this, I have 500MB of internet here, it is shared with the house, my brother is always downloading games and watching streaming and whenever he does this, my game starts to freeze and so do the lives I'm watching... I currently use a Cat5e, would using a cable like this fix the increase in ping and packet loss that happens when my brother downloads? The internet is shared, 180MB for each person in the house and even so I suffer from increased pings and packet loss. Also my z490 can get till 2.5Ghz and i got Asus router.. if someone could answer me, i would be grateful!
Maybe try a cat6 or cat6a to see if the extra bandwidth will help.
i just heard that some guy made it 4.5 million times faster for internet speeds. i dunno how that will effect these cables in the future.
Is Cat7 also wrapped in foil
Yes it is.
ping in game?
What’s your service speed sposta be
It depends on your ISP max speed. However, on a PS5 or any other gaming console any speeds above 300Mbps are plenty!
Cat8 is 20€ in finland and cat6 is 10€ so ill just buy the 8 qus i got 1Gb Ethernet
Entirely too many video cuts. Very distracting.
If I plug cat 8 to ps5 to wan switch would I need a cat 8 cable for wan switch to router?
Did you mean PS5 to LAN switch? I would use cat8 from modem to router WAN because it's almost the same price as cat6 or cat7. Make sure to buy a legit cat8 and check the reviews before you click buy. Thanks for watching karenk683!
I have speeds of up to 5gb speeds would this benefit me?
Probably not. Cat6a would be enough and even cat6 riser at shorter distances. Thanks for watching.
@@UltimateTechHub thanks appreciate the feedback!
Spoiler alert, Cat8 vs cat 5e-6 won't make a difference in a residential setup.
It won't make a difference anywhere.
I do agree with the conclusion but I sure do not agree with the test method. For obvious reasons...
Can i use cat 8 my internet speed is 320 mbps
Yes you can.
Is it worth paying a bit more for Cat 8's improved shielding?...
It is if you have a lot of interference in your home. Otherwise probably not. Cat6a or Cat6 will do just fine! Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHubit really depends what you have going on you might be able to apply some metal film window tint on an alumuim sided house and place some alumized bubble wrap in the attic and problem solved or the problem might still be coming in through the power lines then installing some clip on ferrite cores on your mains coming into the fuse box might help with that bit then it might only help reduce the issue and you still need cat 8 I would just go with cat 8 if your problem is really bad if its not so bad just try to shield the entire house if its aluminum sided to start with if its really bad shield the house anyways for health reasons then go with cat 8 their is likely to be that one little hot spot and your cable will be running right through it even after the best house shielding you can do so I keep my networking in the basement to reduce the emi but still get hits from near by lighting strikes another factor so gonna have to ground my shielding
This should of been done with a 100ft Cable because mines is literally 100ft
Sorry I only had a short Cat8 cable. Thanks for watching!
😅😅 your test cable cat 6 is twice as long as the cat 8 so your experiment is not conclusive my friend!
It seems to me that the few Mbps difference is due to the cable length!
Installing a 1 or 10Gbit cable in 2024 is unwise since cables will last for decades. Use Cat8 instead. It handles all future needs without interference and is one of the cheapest ways to future-proof your home's wiring. For 200 meters of cable, the added cost is only $80. Upgrade your router and switches as needed based on your internet speed. I'm getting 5Gbits/sec this Friday, and 10-100Gbits/sec in ten years isn't far-fetched since fiber optics can handle these speeds. Wifi8 an d9 will also exceed 10Gbits soon. Don't risk to ruin your floors and walls in the future because you thought 1Gbit would be enough. At least you are safe for the next 20 years. This is 2024 speaking, thank me later internet!
i just bought a cat 8 and i get 1 gbps
Anyone experiencing a CAT 6 problem in ps5 the connection keep disconnecting and connecting on its own
Probably a bad Cat6 cable. Try a different cable.
So tell me if I made a horrible purchase for cat8 cable. So I have been running to my PC an old cat5 cable, Which is giving me about 1/3 to 1/2 of my network speed to a point where if I want the full network speed, I would have to connect my phone to my PC and tether it to my phone to get better network speeds for my pc. Some may be asking why not try to find an old cat6e cable in my home because I don't have any. So I went on Amazon and got a good deal on a 20ft cat8 cable for 20$ and two 6ft cables for 12$ I don't think that was a horrible upgrade and a bad price for them.
SO, Where is Your Congestion Point, Now?
Router, Switch, Ethernet Port in PC, WiFi actual speed, ISP maximum bandwidth?
I just want my latency lowered from 50
Always buy what you can afford and if you can afford cat 8 then that is what you should buy. Better in everything including workable length. Furthermore this demo ignored the significant upload difference. I bet the guy here uses cat 8 in his home. Its like tech tubers telling subscribers don't buy a Nvidia 4090 it is a waste of money whilst running one in their rig. (Coms 35 years experience CCIE Data Centre and CCIE Security Certification)
I use Cat6a and some Cat6 riser cable but NO Cat8. Sorry you didn't like the video. Have a great day.
wont go anything below cat8
Running cables between WiFi AP's in your house with fibre is way to costly. So CAT cables will be there for many years to come. Working with these foil cables is so difficult.
I agree 100 percent. Fibre is way to expensive. The Cat8 foil wrap is a bit of a pain but once you get used to it then its no problem. Thank you for watching!
No, it is not.
if you live in a suburban home with 5 people 1person=5 devices, gamers, iPad computers streaming etc, you NEED cat8, less latency etc
That's made up nonsense.
My average for my obram cat 8 is 510.10
i have 1gb internet and my ps5 doesnt get over 400mbps i was getting 20up now my ps5 comes out to 3
400mbps is plenty for PS5 or Xbox. Try unplugging you router and modem for about 60 seconds and then restart your PS5. This should help but 400mbps is really good for PS5. Thanks for watching!
@@UltimateTechHub I know but I was getting 20 up but it’s gone down a lot
@@mightygamerjames Did you reboot your Modem? How much up are you supposed to be getting? Your max?
I need 25feet so im going cat8
Good choice! Thank you for watching!
Actually smaller the number thicker the cable, and an 8 gauge is a lot bigger than a 12 gauge. I am correcting you as you are wrong in this instance.
“22 AWG (7/30)” denotes a 22 AWG stranded wire with 7 strands, each 30 AWG. It's important to note that the smaller the AWG number, the thicker the wire - a 23 AWG copper wire is thicker than a 24 AWG copper wire.M
I said the smaller the number the thicker the cable and then I said that makes sense! Lol! Thanks for watching and for commenting.
Better to future proof instead of having to re run your cables
I agree. It just comes down to what you consider future proof? Cat6a? Cat7? Cat8?
There is nothing to future proof for.