An Example of GOOD POWER CREEP

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  • čas přidán 8. 11. 2022
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    Follow the link here for a longer description of why this is a good example of power creep as well as to see a decklist of when Nantuko Shade came second in a pro tour back when I was playing on plastic tables in my backyard: bit.ly/3WAtFRZ
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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +41

    Follow the link here for a longer description of why this is a good example of power creep as well as to see a decklist of when Nantuko Shade came second in a pro tour back when I was playing on plastic tables in my backyard: bit.ly/3WAtFRZ

  • @winniebowser4447
    @winniebowser4447 Před rokem +581

    the real Brother’s War

  • @Princessmeadows
    @Princessmeadows Před rokem +400

    Dude, that ending line is so wholesome

  • @HaveAVindicare
    @HaveAVindicare Před rokem +120

    The fact that your brother was going to wait until damage to pump the Shade already shows how far ahead you two were.

  • @rosshutchinson503
    @rosshutchinson503 Před rokem +97

    Twin brother? You're telling me there's TWO Carls?!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +69

      Well, his name is not Carl 😅 imagine parents naming both of their twin sons the same thing

    • @RobMedellin
      @RobMedellin Před rokem +41

      Carl 1 and Carl 1 too add to the confusion

    • @KnicKnac
      @KnicKnac Před rokem +9

      Shadow Realm Carl except it is Karl

    • @marcoottina654
      @marcoottina654 Před rokem +10

      @@KnicKnac Karl, the Silver Brother

    • @bunnyben5607
      @bunnyben5607 Před rokem +2

      Carl is the R/U/B one and his twin is colorless aligned.

  • @JohnShire387
    @JohnShire387 Před rokem +27

    Due to powercreep, Nantuko Shade must now live in its new brother’s shadow.

  • @Thorg42
    @Thorg42 Před rokem +58

    Thanks Karl. This was great. From your attitude, to the nostalgia, I'm right there with you.

  • @Camexagon
    @Camexagon Před rokem +30

    my favorite case of power creep is the pirate's pillage to big score went through a couple of iterations in between (seize the spoils and unexpected windfall) and then finally settled on big score, an instant version of pirate's pillage

    • @brandyourfan9244
      @brandyourfan9244 Před rokem +7

      I believe Unexpected Windfall is also an Instant.

    • @Camexagon
      @Camexagon Před rokem +2

      @@brandyourfan9244 yes, but it has 2 red instead of one.

    • @brandyourfan9244
      @brandyourfan9244 Před rokem +1

      @@Camexagon That's fair. I didn't notice that distinction

  • @danielfrazier5586
    @danielfrazier5586 Před rokem +15

    When I saw Misery's Shadow I was so excited to see an updated shade! brought back a glimmer of childhood when I was pumping frozen shade with skeletons held back for defends

  • @princequincy5421
    @princequincy5421 Před rokem +4

    Oh wow that last line broke my head open

  • @MrZer093
    @MrZer093 Před rokem +2

    Almost brought a tear to my eye. My first foray into Magic was Time Spiral followed up by Lorwyn. Suspend and certain tribal payoffs always tend to evoke a similar feeling in me

  • @AdamReveland
    @AdamReveland Před rokem +3

    Totally miss the invasion, odyssey, onslaught blocks with 7th edition. Some of my best magic memories were had back then.

  • @erysecret
    @erysecret Před rokem +7

    Great video.. so much in just a minute! Well done cardmakret

  • @andreaparisi2246
    @andreaparisi2246 Před rokem +3

    The last line is sooooooo sweeet, awwwwwwww

  • @georgepappas7874
    @georgepappas7874 Před rokem +1

    This was the most poetic piece of Magic content I've seen

    • @kraxosOBK
      @kraxosOBK Před rokem

      Not that I don't respect this short, but have you seen Rhystic Studies?

  • @jaketidley2576
    @jaketidley2576 Před rokem +1

    I feel this, one of my fav cards when I played standard was Dread Shade, arguably a worse version! But damn that pump scary

  • @brandyourfan9244
    @brandyourfan9244 Před rokem +1

    I like power creep to an extent. While it may invalidate some older cards, it also makes all archetypes stronger, and more interesting to play.

  • @Macattack1023
    @Macattack1023 Před rokem +4

    Did he say he was tapping his brother in the backyard… I mean your twins so I guess it’s okay? Idk lol hahaha

  • @screamyhawk4004
    @screamyhawk4004 Před rokem +2

    Good ol' days. Nantuko shade ❤️

  • @angrywizard3199
    @angrywizard3199 Před rokem

    That first ability is also a really good buff that fits so well with the original card: you swing in, and if they make the mistake of blocking too hard, they not only lose their creatures but get them exiled, or if they don't block you can drop the open mana on a removal spell and exile something anyway. Really works with the flavour of the original + the updated strength for modern magic.

  • @richnam3188
    @richnam3188 Před rokem

    Misery’s shadow was the mvp of my prerelease deck. It did so much work and would kinda go under the radar for how much it was doing.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      Many cards go under the radar at spoiler season and then, as soon as people play limited with them, become format staples. It happened to ledger shredder, and now misery's shadow is even being played in pioneer! :)

  • @DonkeyDoormatDrive
    @DonkeyDoormatDrive Před rokem

    Thank u! you talked about two things I love, wholesome power creep and reframing nostalgia. Nostalgia does not have to be photo copied to be relived and often photos copying nostalgia diminishes it without reframing. As a game designer power creep is one of the most tiring conversations I still encounter to this day. Game enthusiast laymen don't understand that most implemented power creep is functional but neutral and more of it is wholesome than toxic.

  • @nalgun7551
    @nalgun7551 Před rokem

    this just brought me back in time

  • @leonardosalvador2904
    @leonardosalvador2904 Před rokem +1

    Great text, great editing, great take on it. This is a little gem of a video, please keep putting great content out there guys 💪❤

  • @SpinAroundU
    @SpinAroundU Před rokem +3

    Aaaaah yes, nantuko shade and phantom nishoba, that was the stuff of dreams for 10yo me.

  • @bladerunner2006
    @bladerunner2006 Před 8 měsíci

    aah, tapping stuff together with our brothers, gotta love it

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac Před rokem

    Odyssey block was and will always be my favorite.

  • @Hollowed_Void
    @Hollowed_Void Před rokem

    Nirkana revenent is a 6 mana 4/4 that makes swamps tap for another black and can get +1/1 until end of turn for black. Best ramp card for offense/defense

  • @metalblizzard6024
    @metalblizzard6024 Před rokem

    I remember wicked Akuba in standard thinking back to torment and then realizing the akuba was ok but not nantuku shade

  • @philskrzeczynski390
    @philskrzeczynski390 Před rokem +1

    My favourite bad tribe with no support

  • @DrWiley-fm3ik
    @DrWiley-fm3ik Před rokem

    this was an amazing little video

  • @rovidelarosa
    @rovidelarosa Před rokem

    Funny, my first ever mtg deck runs Nantuko Shade. It was back in the Onslaught block and 3 of us in our playgroup plays zombie decks.

  • @imanimason5858
    @imanimason5858 Před rokem +1

    Great Short!

  • @kamahl75
    @kamahl75 Před rokem

    I wanted to open all the Nantuko Shades back in the day.

  • @ncuco
    @ncuco Před rokem

    Great story telling dude

  • @Kataang101
    @Kataang101 Před rokem

    Cute ending line there

  • @ricklawrence2515
    @ricklawrence2515 Před rokem

    Ha, you kids and your new shades. I still rock OG Frozen Shade. It's bump is permanent. Says do right on the card

  • @NelsonMusic
    @NelsonMusic Před 9 měsíci

    Goat not gonna cap 🐐

  • @pushedtree8600
    @pushedtree8600 Před rokem

    The true Brothers War

  • @donttouchmeggriffin
    @donttouchmeggriffin Před rokem

    You do be tapping big bro like that.

  • @wetwillyis_1881
    @wetwillyis_1881 Před rokem +1

    I still miss sizzler Phoenix.

  • @androkguz
    @androkguz Před rokem

    Powercreep is kind of like gravity in that it's really not negotiable.
    But I do hope they rein it back enough

  • @geezydeezy
    @geezydeezy Před rokem

    That's crazy, I was just thinking about how nantuko shade isn't at all playable last night. I like thjs new upgrades ability to exile creatures though.

  • @kaseywahl
    @kaseywahl Před rokem

    Nantuko shade was also from a time before the design team switched to a board-centric game of magic. Creatures used to be less powerful and spells were more powerful until they realized over time that games are more engaging and interactive when the strong cards play to the board.
    The major shift towards board-centric magic is arguable around M10 when Baneslayer Angel was the talk of the town and the "best" creature in magic.
    Now it's pretty meh because of power creep, lol

  • @longdangley
    @longdangley Před rokem +1

    tapping it with your brother 👁👄👁

  • @lloydlineske2642
    @lloydlineske2642 Před rokem

    Yeah man. I'm loving this new card. Not sure if it's going to be a player or not though.

  • @hffh9262
    @hffh9262 Před rokem

    Ayo I just got two of these in the pre release today. Sick!

  • @saw31489
    @saw31489 Před rokem

    Powe creep is the death of a franchise. It has a 100% effectiveness so far

  • @DoomCat420
    @DoomCat420 Před rokem +1

    Nicely spoken. Enjoyed your video. Took me back as well.

  • @prestonbyrd8443
    @prestonbyrd8443 Před rokem

    I like shades.

  • @johncargille7722
    @johncargille7722 Před rokem

    Awww the feels

  • @travisrose7164
    @travisrose7164 Před rokem

    A new piece for black Tron

  • @benwood4416
    @benwood4416 Před rokem

    K'rrik Son of Yawgmoth entered the chat

  • @adambysko1787
    @adambysko1787 Před rokem

    ah a magic table were i still know the cards lol

  • @wodkakiller69
    @wodkakiller69 Před rokem

    Man you gotta phrase that differently, sounds like you're tapping your brother lmao

  • @daniilzadorozhnyy8950

    This is sweet :)

  • @jay14n
    @jay14n Před rokem

    Reaper from the abyss still a beast

  • @piquanta7
    @piquanta7 Před rokem

    Play Premodern, where you get to enjoy all these old cards again

  • @mundanewizard
    @mundanewizard Před rokem

    Wholesome

  • @johnfingkennedy1091
    @johnfingkennedy1091 Před rokem

    New hatebear for my Kabal deck let's gooooo

  • @movezig5
    @movezig5 Před rokem

    It's too bad it doesn't add as much devotion, but this thing is _infinitely_ more splashable.

  • @derHexenhammer
    @derHexenhammer Před rokem

    I run the shade in my K'rrik deck. And the shadow just can't replace it. With k'rrik I can play and pump shade for life making effectively free. But the shadow not so much.

  • @jarekwildheart
    @jarekwildheart Před rokem

    Nantuko shade to this is perfect, power creep done well. Ragavan and whoever designed it though...well let's just say I don't think people who design cards that broken should be working at WotC designing cards

  • @techpriest8965
    @techpriest8965 Před rokem +1

    You have a twin Karl?
    How do we know which "Karl" is in the video!? Oh no.... Have we been deceived?

  • @richmoser1621
    @richmoser1621 Před rokem

    Killer bees!!! 4th edition.

  • @johnwelsch8943
    @johnwelsch8943 Před rokem

    Yes it’s easier to cast, it’s ability is easier to use, it’s a 2/2 now….buuuuut the effect exiling opponents creatures when they die is way more important in my opinion. That ability in black used to be on a 4 drop. Now it’s on a 2 which was usually only seen in white that cheap

  • @j-lohome-slice7425
    @j-lohome-slice7425 Před rokem

    Solid love

  • @macurvello
    @macurvello Před rokem

    You have a twin?? You gotta invite him for a feature match. I wonder what he looks like...

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 Před rokem

    My idea of good power creep is revisiting cards and mechanics from the past that weren't good enough for play when they came out and making newer, more powerful versions that are finally worthy of play, even in an environment where other cards and mechanics have gotten power creep.

  • @crimson90
    @crimson90 Před rokem

    Surprised they didn't make it fly.

  • @52flyingbicycles
    @52flyingbicycles Před rokem

    Power creep is so hard to control. You can only fine tune new mechanics for so long until a clear power hierarchy starts to form. Artificial scarcity also plays a factor, albeit a good one. If you make good cards rarer and stop printing them after a while, they get diluted. The power 9 are the best in magic but also rare and expensive, allowing WotC to print much weaker cards and still attract customers.

  • @williamhamilton9442
    @williamhamilton9442 Před rokem

    Wait so you can get the effect multiple times if you pay it's mana cost multiple times???

  • @TherosonDragonstoungue
    @TherosonDragonstoungue Před rokem +1

    Uhm, *ACKTUALLY* with the available mana, N-shade could turn into a 8/7 since it's a 2/1 and he had 6 mana open at the time.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      It's written 8/7 and 2/1 in the subtitles because I noticed when editing the video ;)

    • @TherosonDragonstoungue
      @TherosonDragonstoungue Před rokem

      @@CardmarketMagic
      Ahh, I don't have subtitles open for shorts so I didn't see it.
      But yeh, minor mistake, get bullied. Professor onxy truly is cackling at the magic error.

  • @evilgibson
    @evilgibson Před rokem

    good power creep is like saying there is good diabetes

  • @dameach23
    @dameach23 Před rokem

    honest question, is power creep a problem in MTG? I personally haven't really noticed it but ive also only been playing for 5-6 years

  • @weebly_
    @weebly_ Před rokem

    As someone who started playing tcgs with yugioh, I am not worried about power creep in mtg at all

  • @CWeed2
    @CWeed2 Před rokem

    I don't understand the ravagan example, could anyone help?

  • @stevekeenan9673
    @stevekeenan9673 Před rokem

    Mishra's partially constructed workshop
    Legendary land
    Tap for 2 colorless only for artifacts and their activated abilities
    I wanted that printed at mythic
    I wanna be excited for new cards, not reprints n variants

  • @DocShotsPhotography
    @DocShotsPhotography Před rokem

    ending a lil sus lol

  • @luib3695
    @luib3695 Před rokem

    Playing The Brother's War with your brother

  • @loryhell6982
    @loryhell6982 Před rokem

    Do you still feel like a Dinosaur when you eat Jerky ? Asking from Verdun

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      I feel like a dinosaur when I do anything really 🦖 👋

  • @rasputinslover
    @rasputinslover Před rokem

    Cuuuuuuuute 😅

  • @TheLionking0569
    @TheLionking0569 Před rokem

    I was wondering the point...... great Segway

  • @theyak1851
    @theyak1851 Před rokem

    Bro you might want to rephrase that last line

  • @johncrews3412
    @johncrews3412 Před rokem

    That last sentence was sus

  • @BSengen
    @BSengen Před rokem

    Schrodinger’s 8/8 lol

  • @eth1z
    @eth1z Před rokem

    Your points would be fine if staples were cheap. But I cant afford to keep "updating" my modern decks or be stuck playing with noncompetitive decks due to powercreep.

  • @randomslomo1875
    @randomslomo1875 Před rokem

    Why can't you just block with one creature...? Then even if it's a 12/12, it doesn't have trample

  • @Fingerknee
    @Fingerknee Před rokem

    You're tappin your brother? Phrasing dude lol

  • @snakeoo7ca
    @snakeoo7ca Před rokem

    Sounds like jimmy fallon lol

  • @Katiethekitten
    @Katiethekitten Před rokem

    oh boy

  • @Stayner
    @Stayner Před rokem

    AWWWWWW ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @guyyoung4388
    @guyyoung4388 Před rokem

    Exactly

  • @pedrojustice
    @pedrojustice Před rokem

    Power creep can be good because of..
    Nostalgia?
    Is that it?

  • @rednose9378
    @rednose9378 Před dnem

    But no one’s playing misery’s shadow

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před dnem

      Ot was very commonly played in pioneer and standard at the time this video came out 👍

  • @crimson90
    @crimson90 Před rokem

    Make the pump cost a black, then it could be fine.

  • @midnightgamer1050
    @midnightgamer1050 Před rokem

    Restrictions are fun though it's why magic was successful because it had the color pie and it mattered now the best draw card in Brothers War is a boros card..... if ever color can do everything what's the point

  • @alexcebollero
    @alexcebollero Před rokem

    Wait , he tapped his brother in the backyard in 2002? Should we call somebody?

  • @williamsimkulet7832

    This power creep is obscene. +0/+1, easier to cast, easier to pump, AND an unrelated graveyard hate ability. WTF?

  • @The_Nerd_King
    @The_Nerd_King Před rokem

    Oh Brother