How to Be a Diplomatic Powerhouse - Victoria 3 Gigachad Guide - Prussia
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Here's the guide to turning Prussia into first a liberal democracy, and then a Vanguardist State using diplomacy. We're going to be using Prussia's diplomatic power, and seizing the means of production to accomplish our goals.
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Intro: 0:00
Details on Diplomacy: 1:02
Prussian to North German Federation: 3:06
Making Protectorates: 5:26
German Leadership: 7:12
Becoming Germany: 8:39
A Little Imperialism: 10:00
Springtime of Nations: 12:00
Destroying Austria: 13:30
Becoming a Republic: 15:10
Triumph of Socialism: 16:15
Explaining Worker Cooperatives: 18:22
Explaining Command Economies: 21:10
Explaining Subsidies: 24:20
Nation Overview: 25:41
The Power of Protectionism: 27:00
Conclusion: 27:56
Music in the video (in order of appearance)
A Kora Tale - Endless Legend OST
Tropic of Capricorn - Risk of Rain OST
Decisive Battle - Hollow Knight OST
The Empire Strikes - Red Alert 3 OST
Turn, Turn, Turn Again - Ori and the Will of the Wisps OST
Praise the Lamb - Cult of the Lamb OST
Prisoner's Awakening - Dead Cells OST
Fractured Shrines - Dead Cells OST - Hry
I found with a command economy is all about maximizing that extra tax income. That’s your only income so you should maximize it. I could afford to keep taxes at max. Your standard of living is always going up and nobody is being fired so it generates very little radicals. The extra authority can be used to increase your consumption taxes. I find becoming a Proletariat Dictatorship is best as you got the most authority for even more taxes.
IRS simulator.
The pronunciation of „Stefan Hofer von Lobenstein“ was actually pretty good at 16:24 :D
@Tarkusarkusar the only thing, von is actually /fon/
You can form super Germany in this game. All you have to do is take the unification candidate and quickly try to increase relations with Austria. I haven’t tried it myself but you could immediately dissolve the rivalry and start increasing relations immediately. I had to wait a few years before Austria would support me as a unification candidate but it is possible. With super Germany you immediately become the 1 super power and nobody can stop you
I saw the AI do this
There is a trick to manage when to form north german confederation. leave one small nation per state and confed the others first by improving. you need at least 50 relations with them to confed (if you hover over the decision it tells you how many full states you need)
Qing Empire into Vanguardist Oligarchic Isolationist Ethnostate? Massive popbase so I'm sure you could figure it out lol.
I don't think Lenin would approve of that
@@professorhemp713 Stalin would, not exactly ethnostate but certainly only one nation rule
@@zarikvarik1177Stalin hated a lot of minorities, hell even his own people(Georgians). And he really disliked religious groups, like Jews, Muslims, and even to an extent Christian’s(orthodox included).
@@zarikvarik1177so yeah, screw Stalin and screw Lenin.
in my prussia play, i launch leadership play against austria so i become sole unification candidate, while maintaining good realtion with all german minor so i can get them into my custom union and getting their support for unification, with this i can form German immediatly after beating Austria because all german minor supporting me
You could also wait a few years and try to get Austria to support you as a unification candidate. It’s how you form super Germany.
You should switch to Autocracy to max out the Authority bonus of Command Economy.
One of the reasons Sweden did not back was you had not mobilized any of your forces. You can save attrition by not attaching them to the front but the threat of them at the ready factors into their decision making.
Splitting up China and protectorating the break-aways was a strategy I was attempting as Japan, but I think they all end up with the "Protect the Borders" thing so it didn't really work.
I think command economy is really good if you're able to time its implementation correctly. I was playing as France, and when I enacted command economy, I had at that point been able to set up a pretty good supply line, so the subsidies were negligible. All the subsidies did were prop up my war industries, making conquest easier. I was making so much money I could even afford a low level social security system, which also had fewer costs than I usually do, and keep taxes at the lowest and gov/military wages at the highest. Admittedly, I had been able to secure a vast overseas empire, with the largest African colonies, colonies in the middle east, Argentina, Australia, and control over the Dutch East Indies. But it worked very well until I hit an oil shortage. Even then, My economy was still trucking along, just not as well as before I could secure more oil. All in all, I think command economy is great if you go through a transitionary stage of securing supply lines, and expanding your market.
In my France 1000 infamy run, with Command Economy, I had max government and military wages, and taxes to low or really low and still I was making money.
The forced subsidies were only occasionally a problem. For instance, at times my subsidies from Wheat farms making Wine would go through the roof.
I fixed it by exporting as much grain as I could, which brought the productivity of those farms up.
And the extra authority allows me to put consuption taxes on basically every luxury good, and services as usual.
Also, you aren't forced to change industries to Government Run, which means you can keep them as Worker Coops.
Perhaps when I try out going completely autocratic and isolationist, that extra 25% authority will be worth it, but man, it feels so specialized and weak in comparison to an interventionist economy with a powerful investment pool. We'll see how my opinion shifts overtime.
@@Tarkusarkusar Doesn't the investment pool from interventionism come from Aristocrats and capitalists?
I would rather make those pops go extinct in most of my playthroughs.
@@dyne313 based
@@dyne313 capitalists are very important for the midgame. later u can drop them but if u do too early u stunt your growth.
I love your vids! Pls keep uploading vicky 3 :D
these videos are great, look forward to more from you. i cant believe you're below 5k mate
Wanted to take a break from studying for my Econ finals and vic3 was not the right choice.
11:00 you can become really strong really fast by putting a collony in the niger delta and canceling and replacing it until you get it to border benin and then you invade benin for coal iron and farms
and then sokoto for coal and lead
and then ghana for for sulfer
and mali for opium there is 2 states that give opium there and its about 100 farms in total so that will sustain you for a while untill you can conquer fars for the opium and oil later on
This guide is truly Gigachad
16:22 yes, very well, greatings from Germany!
Danke
this channel is underrated
Such a good video
I like how I type in "how to play diplomatic Russia" and this is the first video.
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Try making one of the Indian princley a powerhouse.
I want to see a how vicy 3 simulates a hyper-athoritarian state. I wanna know if it is viable and if it has any positives beyond roleplay. I saw many reddit post crying about how biased is the game to liberalising or how powerful is chosing the path to socialism. I wanna know if there is some grain of thrut. So you want to do authoritariam japan with max authority laws I will be glad
every country in the world uses planning. The US launders theirs through the military budget but there's an obscene amount of porkbarrel stuff in there. Other countries use corp-dynastic systems most notably South Korea's Chaebol system (most asian economies actually base their structure off of fascist reform bureaucracy there's a v good book called Planning for Empire about this). A state without a hand in its economy don't have a free economy, they have an economy that someone else can seize freely.
@@jackedmondson6185 I mean, no one actually denies that most of the world now is a mixed economies (imo dirigisme is the most effective system of all), the question is, where the balance should lean more to? Bc absolutes are either impossible to reach and not that good ideas if you give a thought
Hi, please play as PLC.
Great video man!
Wishes from Michael
Cancer on YOUR nation? Wait! Would do mind to check colours on the map?
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Great playthrough BTW =]
That endless legend music out of nowhere, lmao
Whenever I start as Prussia, I puppet Netherlands right away. They usually give up. Then I go for Belgium after infamy is low.
Bro I'm learning here more about economy, politics and society than I ever did in school💀
good video, also can you do an anarcho-communist playthrough
Please do an all achievement guide for this game
How are you able to force Austria to release Hungary? That country isn't available to add a liberation war goal for.
Endless legends soundtrack banger
In V2 you could drop Austria's prestige a lot and make then not a great power. After that you could sphere them (customs union) and get all of their land when forming Germany. Is it possible here?
yes, all you need to do is win a leadership play and make sure that austria is not a GP. Since forming germany diplomatically only annexes supporting nations, you'll need to do a unification play instead since austria is likely to not support you
@@Nqdpdqbthis is untrue. Austria’s great power status does not matter. Only their relation. Once you take the unification candidate you can increase relations by bankrolling them (or just increasing relations regularly) so eventually they will support you as a unification candidate. Once this happens you can click the form Germany button and you will annex Austria. This will likely take a few years but you could spend up this process by dissolving your rivalry and increasing relations immediately. I haven’t tried this out however
@@wojtek9675 Wojtek!!
I suspect the idea is that if you are running worker coops you're also running max welfare benefits, which should mean that even if a business is doing poorly the pops working it will be doing alright. At least that seemed to work out in the last game I did.
Also I wish more events had permanent modifiers like the springtime revolution ending for the liberals is cool since it permanently changes the land owners not so they are a good IG but more tolerable to have.
the colour of Germany makes me crave coffee.
The main reason I believe government-run gives dividends to the bureaucrats is likely a case of the code for ownership was first made in mind aristocrats and capitalists in the very early stages of development. It does help to remember that back in Victoria 2, Capitalists were the ONLY pop type that could receive the profits of factories of which ALL of it went to that state's capitalists. Rural Resources worked the exact same way, but with aristocrats. Since this was the base functionality in 2, they had to make sure first that this worked in 3. So they first made sure the game could give them ownership shares. This was probably done in a way that REQUIRED a pop be the one who had ownership shares. You are not a Pop. This wouldnt be an issue when first done because they hadnt yet added in government-run...but once they did? If the game expects that a pop MUST be the own with ownership shares, you do need to choose SOME pop to be that owner. Since Bureaucrats have ALWAYS been the pop type that represents government office workers and well...bureaucrats? They end up being the only pop that one can reasonable use to represent Government-Owned. To give the money to the player directly likely requires pulling out some code rooted deeply into the game and heavily reworking it to allow the player to be the valid owner.
So if they do ever decide to allow the player to directly get the money, its likely when a working share/stock market is added in, as it be pretty easy to allow the state to directly buy the shares as well.
how in gods name did you get such a high gdp like by the 40s like you werent even building a lot of industrial buildings you were mostly making ports or baracks or other things like that pls im new and i rly want to improve can someone ecplain
I really want to see Russia in your performance. You have very interesting play styles.
Sadly Denmark won’t back down anymore because that’s re so small they will meet any naval invasion well
Hey I got a question when I turned communist as Germany my SOL jumped from 18.1 to 19.9 but the aristocrats have literally ZERO jobs I checked all buildings and ownership methods and nothing so now the upper strata is impoverished is there a way to deal with it or not?
Nvm they just kinda died or something
Releasing countries from Austria sucks if you make a play for unification because you get to annex all north and south German nations. All the released countries aren’t.
Red Alert 3 soundtracks 💖
if you just bankroll and improve relations with all German minors, and launch a leadership play against austria as soon as you can, you are able to form Germany around 1844
When confederation events pop just pick the "don’t annex" option
I usually only annex the ones that aren‘t supporting me (and the big ones saxony and Hanover, maybe hesse-Kassel for land connection). Let’s you form Germany really quickly, as early as 1840, but until you form Germany any and all infamy really hurts your relations and sets you back…
didnt even full annex austria with the form germany button SMH
There need to be a lot of changes to command economy and demands of high standard of living pops.
It might not be a political economy, but it IS accurate.
takus victoria 3
Do industrialist republican Japan next.
Not enough PAIN and SUFFERING
Needs way more WAR and POINTLESS DEATH FOR THE EMPEROR
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Bro idk if I was just lucky or good at the game but like I got to a billion dp faster than that as France more or less just super aggro with permanent 100+ Infamy, either that or Command economy really hurt your gdp that badly and enforces how bad it really is
then again you got to 2.5 bill gdp and I was never getting close to that since I ran into over population issues and could never grow my construction sector to match my population growth since I owned all of Africa and indonesia
Government ran business is basically how I see historical Chinese and Asian empires. It’s better than feudalism/conservative systems but doesn’t actually build much standard of living.
can do right wing auth/fascist prussia with military focus? mirror of this one? good thing, the opposite to have complete set
My take on the reason government run buildings don't trickle their profits into your treasury is that it would be too overpowered as it'd be the equivalent to 100% dividends taxes. Take into account that as a vanguard party you'd usually go for autocracy and thus benefit from the 25% authority bonus command economy gives, thus earning a ton of money (in my run ~20% of total income) from consumption taxes. Couple this with the income tax bonus and youre not off too bad.
TL;DR: Communism is supposed to give you money from (consumption) tax income, as to earn all industry profits would be too unbalanced.
Still, i really hope they overwork this because the whole "government run" thing is just unnecessarily the worst. They could still just split the dividends between the state and bureaucrats or overhaul command economy as a whole.
i bankroll the smallest u get 3% progress instead of 1 cost 100 not 150
they changed state run in 1.2 so now government takes it.
Ok but hear me out. Command economy helps you raise the SoL because not all industries are profitable. The profitable industries take some money, but not a lot. It is beneficial in a way. You make a lot of money anyway and the 1 million in subsudies is not that big of a deal, you just raise the SoL for the people working in nonprofitable industries.
I wouldn't call it a political statement, moreso a fact
Intolerable due to performance issues? It's weird, because Prussia is the only nation I seem to have absolutely no issues with when it comes to performance. :P
Also, there is an easy way to gobble up Austria as well when forming Germany; essentially making a gigachad Germany. When the game first starts, immediately go for Nationalism and increase relations with Russia and France. Get one on your side if possible, but if you can't, that's no problem because you can easily defeat Austria regardless. Secondly, fire up the Leadership Play and throw in a Humiliation wargoal for Austria. After you've won the war, immediately increase relations and discard the rivalry between you and Austria. After a while you'll be able to bankroll them to speed up the process. Don't forget to increase relations with all the minor German nations around you in the meantime.
And tada! Eventually you'll be able to form Germany with Austria included. ;) I've done it multiple times now.
Ahhh yeah
How to forget the German-Hungary commune, tf is Austria-Hungary? That's just a government invention
Wow, communism is overpowered?
Who could have seen that coming.
Diplomacy is really unreliable for me. Countries that love you will just refuse to fucking confederate and there’s no way to automatically get that by fighting France as happened irl.
I’m trying to get a run based on Jabzy’s video on German imperial desires pre-WW1. I want an enlightened monarchy that aligns with the trade unions
23:03 lmao very much becoming Stalin by desiring to purge the bureaucrats.
Tbh the game represents "Vanguardism" (Leninism) extremely poorly since it premises itself on this massive inflation of government bureaucracy which, as demonstrated, is absolutely terrible. There's a reason why the Soviet economy under Lenin involved the NEP and why there were concerted efforts to actually work on decentralizing the economy before Khrushchev took over and actually ruined all of that, resulting in the diminishing returns to eventual stagnation in the USSR as the entrenched bureaucrats could not effectively run the country given how completely distanced they were from the people and how prone to corruption they were. This is a big reason why the Sino-Soviet split happened; China, not only under Mao, but also under Deng and every leader after, is authentically Marxist-Leninist (or """Stalinist""") because they sought to undermine the entrenchment of bureaucracy through popular and more decentralizing tendencies.
If anything, the "Vanguardist" and "Government Run" options far more emulate the post-Stalin revisionist period of the USSR rather than the fundamental principles that Communists actually have. Plus, for the game to call the so-called "Command Economy" option a "Command Economy" when it takes away control of planning by removing the capacity of the government (the player) to react to market conditions is very funny; the way the game runs, a Council Republic with either Free Trade or Protectionism and Interventionism far more accurately represents Marxism-Leninism than this hilariously bad caricature. It wouldn't be so bad if the bureaucrats in the "Government Run" option gave the vast majority of their dividends to the investment pool, or if instead it simply removed all ownership pops entirely such as to indicate that the government (the player) has total control of the proceeds of the government-run buildings, rather than pops whose dividends and income you, ironically in this so-called "Command Economy", have no influence over when they're supposedly part of the government.
why do it the hard way? just bankroll Russia, France and UK and start a war against austria and then reunification war. I managed to unify Germany in 1839 this way, I recorded it and uploaded it on my channel.
Yeah, the peeps behind 3 hate Communism and so they nerf it after it was objectively the best in Vicky 2
if only you said this before the new updates because now command economy does give profits to budget
I love playing Prussia but this games internal issues hold me back. I’ve been sitting for like a decade and the south Germans won’t confederate on max relations and me having like 60 million more GDP than Britain. AI develops so bad that every Great Power is stealing my resources lol. France will randomly back Siam despite them being Genial with me when all I wanted was a bit of Laos... God this game is both beautiful and flawless and horrifically bad at the same time
you can't confederate with south germans, the only way is to form Germany itself, if they support you you'll annex them
Why didn't you also liberate all those people in eastern europe from the Russians?
hey, can you maybe upload the whole recording without commenting? Just to see the whole game
I've been thinking about that. I may do that but it would likely be on a second channel. If I do that, I'll be sure to announce it in a video so you can know it's there.
there are mods that create a true command economy instead of this poor excuse for command economy.
Command economies are objectively terrible irl, that’s not political commentary.
Can confirm this video is trash. Tried the protectorate Denmark 23 times and 23 times GB joined on their side. Play isn’t necessary anyway just needed to point it out for others.
"german minors" lmao
Actually it makes sense why communism is so op for Vic 3 - because the ideology and system itself was created in that time period. It doesn't work in reality because it just got old with time, capitalists state became more internationalist than commies bc globalism, etc. etc.
communism didnt get "old with time" its simply a system punished too much effort and equalize people and artificially decide ones needs. Its simply a theory disconnected from reality.
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