2024 Elections | uMkhonto weSizwe Party media briefing
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- The uMkhonto weSizwe Party has called an impromptu media briefing at the IEC main Results Operations currently holding a late night.
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As an EFF Party Agent I was counting votes ,MK votes in my Ward the where 70% more than any Party we had 1440
Registered voters and MK won by 1145 , ward 47 KwaMashu where the biggest Township City being built currently
It's understandable uyibhale ekseni kakhulu leConcern yakho leadership. Please re-read it.
Ngowakwamashu nami and mk destroyed anc, so we can see there is serious rigging in this election
ANC invited Zanu pf, a party that has never ever held transpatent elections & these are the outcomes 😮😢
The interviewer biased fulstop.
Seconded, she is being biased
Go young LIONS❤❤ SAn future looks bright. UJehova anigcine n don't loose focus.
Big up To these Comrades . These guys are true Leaders . They don't play with kids .. Viva Mkhonto wesizwe!! Am very impressed the way they present themselves...
Nhlamulo and Muzi....RESPECT
Great minds
@@Sihawukelwe 100% Big minds💥
Haibo ngiyamvuma u Nxamalala. South Africa has talent. The future looks bright. Our future leaders showing maturity and respect. Niyibambhe njalo young lions.
Democracy has price. The rich or wealthy pay for it and the poor accept without thinking hard on who owns this country. This great hijack was designed from the start
Its amazing
Intelligence 🫵🫵
Respect and young leaders taking south forward
Taking south Africa forward
Bahle abafana ba Msholozi and humble, respecting like uBaba wabo.
Hebanna
Very different from insulting boys of eff
Izinsizwa impela
I'm impressed by Msholozi ideas and him grooming this young men and women to become future leaders of South Africa
As a man I can't say bahle 😂. But YIZINSIZWA ngempela lezi. A young version of Luthuli himself
dangerous game the IEC is playing
Democracy has price. The rich or wealthy pay for it and the poor accept without thinking hard on who owns this country. This great hijack was designed from the start
I salute the cadres who exposed the rigging machinations.
Uyabona ukuthula kwe sa kusho kukhulu so I IEC ayigawule ibheke namu ngizizwa ngikhushukelwa umoya abantu besdakela ezweni lethu
We are so disappointed in the IEC, they were too busy helping ANC to fight President Zuma and MK instead of preparing for elections.
A manual recount shouldn't be an issue but since IEC seems to be a political party they might not want this.
I'm an EFF voter & I must say I'm quite satisfied & confident with the leadership of the MK Party. They're capable to challenge this rotten system of the oppression on behalf of the poor of the poorest.
Big up guys! ✊🏾
Too soon, take a seat back and learn
Haha you think anyone who talks forcefully is a “leader”
Mk party cannot provide for the poor......that was voting talk.
@@MeleneyPillay..oh shame on you..nurse your chest pains and relax
Zuma , really, Zuma
You comrades are actually bright!!!
and the media made sure to deny South Africans the true picture of MK.
Very responsible and mature approach by MK.
Peaceful and humble MK leaders of the Nations 🙏
don't take everything you hear at face value.
@@fridgemagnet9831always negative
New broom always sweeps clean
Umoya ay shame but like it or not
This is a type of leadership that we want in our country
I'm watching.. let's see how they keep their hands in their pockets instead of the cookie jar
Based on what evidence?
Mazulu
4 members of my family did not vote the officials sent us from post to pillar, after checking on our IDs they said we must go to vote where we firstly registerd We suspect that they used our ID and vote for their anc in our absentia
They will incite violence these 2- no wonder KZN is always the start of riots and looting
And if the IEC think this is joke they will regret
Ibambeni kanjalo sikhona sizoniseka sithi phambili nge MK✊️✊️
When a person complain while they're winning that means they are not lying
True 🙏
Democracy has price. The rich or wealthy pay for it and the poor accept without thinking hard on who owns this country. This great hijack was designed from the start
@@wma5440 if you were supposed to win everything, what should you do if people are trying to sabotage you.
It's the perfect definition of greed. I am not necessarily saying they are but greedy people always do that.
Very true. That Judith Love must be fired from the IEC, she is a known ANC cadre and RamaSofa sympathiser
Mk we have got quality young leaders big up to baba Msholozi Viva mkhonto Wesizwe
Impressed by the calibre of these MK leaders.Poised to lead
These ANC old leaders are scared of these young and capable leaders
They are intelligent these guys
Dankie MK dont let it go, something is really wrong.
Democracy has price. The rich or wealthy pay for it and the poor accept without thinking hard on who owns this country. This great hijack was designed from the start
LOL kanti what are the expectations of the MK? To WIN NATIONAL? Ay some people are unrealistic. Even this outcome is shocking for me. SiyiEFF siRyt, yes there were some glitches kwiSystem as expected, but that does not mean they had a significance effect in the outcomes.
Voting must be integrated to the Home Affairs live system where your fingerprint is validated by an official
Agree. But thugs mustn't chop voters thumbs
I fully agree with you, these thugs have thier dirty hands all over our ballot papers, who knows what happened during the systems shutdown earlier on? The IEC must account. The only solution to this dilema and thuggery by IEC and her Cohorts is the recounting of votes.
Not possible, it is a private vote
There's a brilliant 💡 idea
@@tsekomofokeng182Serious concern but funny at sametime😂😂
Who are these young men I am so sold YES these are the type of young dynamic leaders that we need
These are Madiba guys who were fighting for freedom and go to Zimbabwe,Angola,overseas and many more countries fleeing the apartheid stigma which more of ppl doesn't know they fought for or this country ❤
We want recounts Provincial and National Viva MK🖤💚🖤💚
Recount pls IEC usjwayela amasimba
😂😂😂😂😂😂really uya sijwayela
Waze wadakwa IEC
IEC IS ANC
😂😂😂😂😂true
I am proud of Mkhonto.... True leaders
Young guys for MKP are well organized. Hope in you
The two young men are brilliant 👏 i like the way they handle the jenourlist
Everyone is a spokesperson
Handling journos don't fill no potholes.
@@PeeOrbitalthat’s true…. I’ve learned that people can say dumb things with confidence… this guy is a BS sadly people fell for it😂😂😂 same people who didn’t care to about people when they were ANC… they gonna suffer
They are matured, cool,
This is the type of leadership our country needs. Big up MK for making sure you have the right minds
If EFF AND THE MK CAN WORK TOGETHER OUR COUNTY WILL WIN
Aphi amavoti ethu kuNational ma MK amahle aphi 💚🖤💚
Young lions...Msholozi sent the undefeated to Midrand 🙏😂
Wow these guys are clear and very sharp. MK is the real deal ❤
Very impressive with these leaders leaders accurate engish e need youth in our country thhnks zuma and the team
So if you speak nice English what's makes you special
Lol say that again 😂@@mlungisimasinda7117
Communication and ideas flow without stuttering, that is special and vital. What's your problem.
@@user-zb9xi2hb5pEveryone is a spokesperson
Speaking nice English doesn't mean you are a genius. It is 2024 when are you going to grow up from that.
Nothing wrong with a recount the iec has 7days to declare the results.
Oppenheimer fighting Zuma right in the IEC halls.
If it was DA they were going to be taken serious
DA has never behaved like this. These boys are fuming. They'll definitely contribute to volatility in coming months
Well did we expect the ANC to relinquish power so easily?
MK has leaders of high quality, disciplined, respectful, responsible, hardworking just like Msholozi.
This is what SA need
I will be impressed when our young brothers partner with the EFF & Reclaim the Land & END European Man-Made Poverty inflicted on Indigenous Black Africans on their own Land. 🙏🏿🤴🏾👸🏾❤️❤️❤️
And then do what with the land? Land ownership doesn't equal immediate financial wealth, it requires hard work to make the land profitable, be it agriculture or establishing businesses. Very few of the new landowners who did reclaim ancestral land successfully made it profitable, often it followed the Zimbabwean example, formerly successful farms were run down and only a fraction is planted to essentially feed a single family. Don't just believe those political slogans of gaining riches by taking land or businesses away from the current owners, personal success is based on hard work, not free handouts, grants, freebies, they will run dry eventually. There are many successful blacks who made a success out of their life by hard work and determination without waiting for a parcel of land where one of their ancestors might have lived 300 years ago.
@@goflow101 Man, i agree 100%. Most of these people would still be poor even if the land was never taken away from them. I don't understand what makes them believe taking it away from people who know how to work it is going going to change their lives. I'm a black South African, I've seen black landowners fail dismally. This thing requires knowledge, skill, and a lot of hard work.
@@goflow101,,,ubr delusional if u think u can definately delay the land question in whatever form or manner,,,besides r u not aware or humbled by the fact that the very land u deem unimportant was stolen by force?,,,,,
@@mosesnkosi4252 so meaning blacks do not have those skills etc?then why keep on sending our black children to schools 30% cant deal with land.instead of finding a way to help a black child on how to deal with land wena umbukela phansi
@@mluembambo675yazi nje nami ngididekile ngalama comment ngenhla, coz komele abantu befundiswe kuthi how to handle the land and make it profitable. Angani vele iyona leSystem yabelungu eyasicindezela kuthi sihluleke kuziphathela umhlaba so kumele naye iliwe nje qha!
The deadline does not account for infringements occurring after the due time, and the court does not recognize complaints unless they are filed by the IEC, which has been accused of orchestrating delays and causing email instability to disrupt the timing process.
IEC is ANC and DA
I’m just surprised how these journalists are so quick to defend the IEC rather than taking the information given to them and reporting it back. And this has been a trend in this entire election where journalists take a political position in matters regarding the validity of the processes of the IEC.
It's the clever way to get more information. The party representatives looked agitated.
Me too, I couldn't even make proper sense of the questions they were asking
They afraid of what is coming. If they backing the powers that be now, what will happen with their stations when the powers are removed and others are stirring the ship? Stomachs are talking here, believe me you. Authority changes things. You can have a smart mouth today and tomorrow when the wheel turns,your job is gone coz the powers in charge want you gone coz of how you treated them and indirectly your boss will make it happen. That is how society works and these presenters are ignorant of that fact. Baningi abazophelelwa imisebenzi kulama presenters, one way or onother esp if the State has a say in these media houses as we see now.
Do you really understand what agitated mean? I doubt very much.
@@synodngwane7241 Don't worry about what I understand. They'll prove it to you over and over again.
I fully support the initiative of our leadership, I am having a same concern as I'm sitting here in kzn
Please Proceed with such dispute
IEC must be disbanded finish and klaar
Recount , viva Mk party ✊
What if it loses on recount?
Viva zulu party viva
@@tsekomofokeng182If they lose, all they are asking for is to lose through a transparent process and through standard practices.
@@victorndlovu663 Still they would not accept because they would not be part of re count
@@tsekomofokeng182 Not quite that. That's not the reason they are disputing remember?
MK will change everything in South Africa people must vote for MK next elections you see the MK party formed in a 6 months ago but doing well. Viva MK vivaaa....!♥️
😢...🙏 free... free 🇿🇦 za from poverty corruption crime joblessness jobless 😤 not forgetting the senior citizens financial plight they were the youth that fought the struggles for your freedom with great sacrifices ❤❤
Democracy has price. The rich or wealthy pay for it and the poor accept without thinking hard on who owns this country. This great hijack was designed from the start
On point we suffered a lot to be where we are today thanks 🎉
Why was the minister of police doing near the servers ...and why did the system go down for two hours ...
I dont understand why IEC still uses manual counting in ghis day and age. The process as it is really open to many gaps and high chances of mistakes.
Informants are the very same members of MK who can do mistakes deliberately so just to hold the country at ransom
Technological voting systems would be more vulnerable to being compromised. Also, there’s an issue of maintaining anonymity.
@ thandugonose9769 the day we go digital on votes is the day we will see loosing votes to the capitalist candidates all the time. Look at America when they say the system was rigged . South Africa will be doing the great mistake if they ever do that
1 reason only, cos they r corrupt
National results r not satisfying something went wrong
AmaZulu amahle🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️🇿🇦
Wow these leaders of MK ❤😊
What wow for...looks 😂
@@user-io7gf1lt3n😂😂
I think IEC is corrupt how can be that the screen went off for two hours, where was everyone????
Eish bru😢😢😢
Recount!
I respect these guys.
Umnandi somlomo....u know your story
lol unjani?😂
These journalist be asking dull questions
True. Am surprised by the question of violence when clearly the approach of these comrades is mature and calm.
Dankie Mks
Not too late to fix the errors hopefully ego and arrogance will not be the order of the day and these issues will be ventilated and addressed. Western Cape parties save for DA are united in expressing like sentiments so too ACT in Free State expressing the same sentiments. Fair play must be the order of the day.
The one question that stands: Where did the DA get all those numbers? The general white population constitutes to about 7% of the 61 million South Africans. Out of that, there are kids who aren't eligible to vote. Another fraction of the whites is split between FF-PLUS & other parties including the ANC, MK, EFF.
Although there are some blacks & coloureds who vote for the DA, there's no way that number could surpuss that of EFF & MK COMBINED, not even including other smaller parties!
Our own people voted for DA that's a fact that we need to accept. People highly dislike the EFF due to "open borders" and MK maybe could have done better, but they did well enough. This is a strategy that MK are using to bring the ANC to it's knees. ANC, as we know it is now gone. MK has checkmated them. Now ANC/DA can't go into a coalition anymore for fear of co-conspirator accusations. They only have 1 choice, and that's MK.
the DA is not a white party it's a party for all types of people just like any other party
@@PrincessVelaryon Ramaphosa loves his white people
Blacks ppl voted for the DA aswell as Indians and coloreds..Surprise
How dumb can you be ,its not just whites that voted for DA,
Thanks MK YOUTH for the update, let's hope everything is eventually fixed as we definitely need those votes ❤❤
These journalists are so nefarious. They are the ones who brought the idea of court in discussion after the MKP just said they will follow administrative issues. And now they question the MKP about the idea of court trying to create a situation as though MKP is confused. Even that stupid question about violence. Come on man. Do better
Are these the kind of people we want to run this country..... impossible 90..... majority vote DA and anc
I've a number of MK cadres being interviewed. These young guys are impressive. They are very clear minded
Basically, If this dashboard represented an online financial transaction scenario, it would indicate potential losses in the millions over those two hours. Rigging could be at play!
Exactly, got a whole party percentage point to move with 90% of the vote counted then we talking hundreds of thousands if not a million votes. Something fishy is going on
We need to recount
What if they loses on recount?
@tsekomofokeng182 can't be
Cos it is no bloody way in South Africa they will be people that can vote for ANC unleash the out of their minds
Very cool and collected. Big up MK
We're all been needing this in SA fresh young blood to lead the country
Jeez these people asking crazy question..disgusting
No, they are not. They have every right to ask for a recount and demand answers that they need clarity for. we also need to know!!!!! We have seen that there have been glitches.
I wish the Zulu people will come to understand that this isn't about Zulu people only, people from everywhere in the country voted ❗
I'm a Zulu and I agree, All members of South Africa make MK what it is.
Democracy is very unfair to the minority, coz majority rules, and Zulus happen to be the majority.
The way you feel it's exactly how the whites feel
If MK thinks there is vote rigging. Did Zuma learn vote rigging from the ANC?? KNOWING all ANC dirty secrets... I wonder....
We leave no stone unturned 🔥✊. IEC you must account
Excellent argument mk well done
YES!
I wonder what their reaction would be if the outcome of a recount resulted in less votes for MK. 🤣🤣🤣
Less votes,, a party that grew to millions in a matter of few day and is the biggest party in the land less than 6 months later, but ends up with lesser votes,, just because they are asking serious questions,, so we must just accept what has been pre-planned for ANC/DA coalition as predetermined by a few white rich families? Are you well upstairs? But you won't ask where DA gets alm the numbers,, and you think you're smart,, no you're only gullible a d submissive to manipulation by colonial masters! Wake Up!!!!
These are men of men mk is 🔥 fire
People can't be robbed .like this..IEC please help us.we know.few hate President Zuma but don't hate people of South Africa.their.rights . please ..be faithful .listen to the leaked videos
We really dispute this results 💚🖤
if they reject the process, we reject the process in kzn
Who's we dude its YOU🤣
Yes, in KZN MK suppose to win with 65%, not 44%.
@@mthethelelipremierleague8704I m eff but lapho is support you it's not about a party it's about free and fair elections Iec hah failed us opened bilotbox discovered what is that now we are becoming like Zimbabwean and Kenya soon it's going to be Civil War I suspect
@@mthethelelipremierleague8704 based on what metric, and how did you arrive at 65%?
How come KZN we struggling to reach 50% while we know we know we are dominating as MK ,cooking is too much ,I don't trust all these outcomes as well recounting is an option for me or....
Ksasa kuyothiwa amazulu, amazulu 😢 yeyi am warning you IEC yeyi, do not provoke our young lions 🦁uzosha 😡
Yes manual counting yea
Even banking systems do go offline for hours on end, so me is not sure what’s what here. I sense they’re bitter that they didn’t get a majority in KZN so they can do a little somethin’ somethin’
OUR YOUNG LIONS Viva MK Viva 💚🖤💚💞. Mbodlozani isgodlo saMADIMONI👹anc&da👹. We have lots of adivences
I was a party agent... IEC ke masepa feela
What is happening in IEC? Tell me please. The conversation is between the two of us no one will hear.
@@tsekomofokeng182IEC is directly proportional to the ANC and inversely proportional to the Opposition parties...The IEC serve the interests of the ANC. Ultimately, the IEC and ANC are syndicate... This has been the case for so many years
@@ntokozodladla8644 All parties. IEC officials are not from heaven. This one is married to this one,this one is daughter in law of this one,cousin to this one, the father of Dudusane. The circle goes on.Other nations are far away with improvements,us circus.
These guys mean business
Young blood of Mk hayi izalukwazi namakhehla abantu abasha abane vision ngallelizwe hayi lama old croock asiwafuni la ku Mk ayeba yooo
Anc leaders full of grannies n grangpas , parliament is like its n old age home
You can’t have it both ways! You are happy with KZN results, but unhappy with national results.
I'm shocked to see ANC top of the leader board in EC.. the ppl there are starving thanks to the anc, so how do th ey get more votes than any other party?
Bafethu sethembe nina, we are 100% behind You and what ever happens must happen .Sikathele amasela sikhathele
This lack of section 24 was truly an injustice to the voter community. Masses of people were not able to exercise their democratic right to vote for the National especially the workforce who have moved districts for various reasons. This is not democracy period.
Thank you my kids i was working wiht the kids whos briliant like you
There are discrepancies, however, if th MK knows better. MK should take the win and navigate it accordingly. Do not disturb the stability of SA. Please! Even if it means appeasing the DA that ONLY maintains status quo. It will or fail in these 5 years. Gwaza Mkhonto and hopefully trade wisely.❤️
If we accept the result that means the illegal process is given legitimacy
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My man don't tolerate this we don't want to be like Zimbabwean s we want free and fair elections it's not the first time this happens they ignored before malema joked about it and said OK next time we be more careful now it's getting worse they start to cry so never allow this next time other parties will do the same as a revenge
See what were the loopholes, cover them in the next elections. Destabilising elections will have massive repercussions. However your concerned are fully valid Duma, kakhulu futhi!
I think it's more of a bully tactic against ANC. They are master strategists. They are trying to agitate SA and prevent a ANC/DA coalition and force ANC into a coalition with them.
Let manual counting be done. Mk is right. Let justice be done now. How cannteljom shut down for 2 hours ?
What transpired in that 2 hour of teljom shut down.
Lets do a manual recount.
Moshe Moate
What if it loses on recount?
I'm impressed with these young lions,long live
I am also wondering what is going on with results
No the future is bright for us Mk😊
Aha now we know well done I always said that these elections are never fair. Ai votani guys.
Let the people vote again. Another holiday
The results are done. Start coalition talks. That will take another 2 months to finalise.
Chest pains are taking over !!!
Even if it takes 12 months to recount, we have no problem we want fairness. We are tired of corruption.
I llke how they responded to the " violence" question....don't play games ....
I see you Zuma you raised the young to rule very brave and wise thats what we wanted
Allegedly I think Mk is rìght they should recount manual to see if it match the IEC ,the cut the lights no stand by alternative form while counting votes ,this was deliberate,the was no loadshedy