gg Thanks for the cast! This was way more of a test for Flash than that game vs. Stork. Best is almost like a specialist at breaking through Terran turtle shells. Great by both sides!
Amazing match. Flash eventually decided that he was going to try and win on 1-base economy while using his massive army. When Best eventually realized that Flash didn’t rebuild his SCV’s, he knew it was time to take a base in the top right. Flash was hoping he could kill it as easily as he could the 6 o clock base… but the top right corner main base is too defensible. Unfortunate miscalculation. He would’ve been better off rebuilding the SCV’s and playing more defensively.
Lock down has to absolutely wreck the speed shuttle style. Know it's a pain in the ass to get but like 6 ghosts spread around catching these when they can has to be crazy efficient in terms of trading.
He is quite good! He is getting old though and the rest are getting better with Protoss and Zerg! i always felt his opponents are not trying anything different to beat him, but we can see in this game that he can be beaten quite often with different combinations!
@@beslemeto I don't know if I agree with you on the other protoss and zergs getting better, if I anything I would say the opposite is true, especially with the zergs. Both Queen and Soulkey have being playing far below their peaks, and even Soma is not quite delivering. I hope Flash's return would breathe some life into the competition.
Not being a SC pro, but from the mini series vs Snow and this game, it seems that Flash has issues with 2 things: 1) not making 4th/5th bases quick enough, because protoss at some point makes 4-5-6 bases immediately, creating a big economic boost, while Flash runs out of resources and can't make new bases/army reinforcements 2) storm drops
As a Protoss main I actually like to have a stargate with +1 air weapons to make a few Scouts to SAFELY clear spider mines, shoot science vessels and floating buildings, and force Terran to spend Vespene Gas on Goliaths when he would rather make tanks. Stork use to do this back in the day and people are so unaccustomed to seeing Scouts they can be slow to counter them. Then if I choose to go into carrier later in the game I ALREADY have my Stargate and +1 done.
Mmmmm very interesing game happen. Bravo, bravo boys you do well. You make me happy by making the game interesting. In the end, the goal of the interesting game is to gain experience from complex tangled very difficult situations in which it is difficult to determine the superiority or advantage of one or the other playing side. Many thanks to Flash and the other players who do their best to be able to work out the calculations accurately in the difficult and complex, high-risk game situations. Flash can really become a real big CZcamsr. Often times things are determined by the skill applied in the game and less by the game itself. As they say, a woman has never given me as much pleasure as playing Starcraft, Starcraft favoritos-VICTORIOS SPARTANOS ROMANOS 😉🙂 I wish you all the best guys. Good luck in your life and gaming. Some day we may meet in the arena in great Rome. You can be an audience and watch real reality. May the spirit of the blue dog protect you. This is what the Mongolians used to say when they crossed long distances😉🙃It was a pleasure to watch you Sometimes I have commitments and I don't have time to look at you, but I try not to forget you and find time to look at you, because after all, there are things that are remembered for a lifetime, especially when they are not nonsense but constructive, meaningful, valuable movements, work or play.
keeping 3 probes on gas and banking it up a bit is not a mistake. It just means that Best was not optimizing for an early timing push. It's totally fine to float gas for when all the tech kicks in. It's actually more optimized for midgame than sending a probe off and back on the gas. Shuttle speed and a few dragoons and the gas is spent by 5 30 in game clock (3:44).
@@SaiyanKCM here is Best's thought process for the opening: - at first he intends to open with dragoon, then range, then Nexus, just like normal - but after his probe meets the scouting SCV at top right, and then sees Flash is not top right, he knows Flash has to be cross-spawn --> he cancels range to have the Nexus a bit earlier (the cancel is to save mineral, not gas) - then when he sees Flash is not just cross-spawn, but also goes for gasless expand, he knows early Terran aggression (like FD) is out of the question, but he's also too late for dragoon pressure on the bunker, so that's why he skips range all the way to after the Reaver tech. At top level they optimize the build to every second like that.
Leonardo da Vinci - 'Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds them. We live by the death of others. We are burial places.' *NPCs be like:* 'This world is unjust, unfair based on pointless/unnecessary exploitation, slavery, suffering, war, famine, theft, trauma, loss, death, disease, hopelessness and despair, depression, anxiety, panic, mental illness, birth defects, endless bills/fees/taxes, unaffordable less toxic food(i.e. organic), unaffordable housing, the basic needs can HARDLY be met by working 2 full time jobs 7 days a week, the air and water poisoned by pollution, conventional food is full of poisons, nepotism/racism/discrimination is rampant through the roof, bullying, gaslighting, guilt tripping, crime, manipulation, coercion, genocide, total dictatorship, zero privacy, being one paycheck away from becoming homeless, completely demonic evil diabolical corporations/not so secret societies running the world, fraud, murder, rape, violence, cruelty, brutality is the norm of life, the ‘you will own nothing and be happy about it’ thing, it is a terrible/horrible existence.'' *Few seconds later same NPCs be like:* ''I think every human should force at least 15+ other humans into this delightful world via breeding like unconscious beast/NPCs.' NPC 'logic', 'morality', 'ethics', 'rationality', 'love'.
@@SaiyanKCM “What are y’all talking about life not being a gift! Life is so precious, beautiful, and fulfilling. The good things in life require hard work and if life was always easy, it would be boring. It’s about the hustle, the grind, the hours, and that work. Y’all need to toughen up and stop complaining about being tired of always working and being broke. Pull yourselves up by the boot straps and work hard, hell, work a second full time job if you have to. Yes we pay to live, but somebody has to pay for the work. Bad things are constantly happening, but you should stay positive! Be grateful you’re alive and have jobs. Oh yeah, get married, have some kids so they can make you happy and also you can teach them about good work ethics. Life isn’t all fun and games, so stop complaining and make that dough. By the way, enjoy your company pizza parties !” - NPC-breediotards It's the gift that keeps on taking… Life where you have to pay for everything can never be a gift. Can anything imposed without option be a gift? "Your parents gave you life, be grateful" But we didn't desire or need life in the first place Forced into existence by two low IQ, coward, loser, purposeless, lonely, megalomaniacal, selfish/narcissist imbeciles. Forced to ‘school’, i.e. public indoctrination camps. Forced to ‘work’, i.e. forced into a LIFELONG slavery. Pay or DIE. Life is a gift and be grateful for it or else !
theres this cool thing about flash games where the opponent plays REALLY well and you know he would've won but it was flash and his macro is just bonkers. there's too much stuff all the time.
Hey, I like the casts, but please don't cut off so much of the start of the game. Like a lot of decisions have been made already by the time there are 12 SCVs. I would prefer to simply watch it from the very beginning, but at the very latest I'd say one could skip to 8 SCVs because then it is possible to look at the timings of things like barracks, depot, scout, etc.
Ich bin sicher nicht ansatzweise so gut wie Flash in dem Spiel, aber ich hätte zumindest einige Türme gebaut, um meine Basen vor Storm Drops zu schützen?
Best was always the one player who could actually beat flash, mainly because for some reason he of all protosses knows how to abuse mass zealot A-moving. Once Flash gets his mechanics back to counter the brainless A-Move, he'll be in good shape to return to terminator status
Best does not simply A-move bro. Lmfao. He breaks terran static D in set ups that seem impossible. Watch some of tastosis ASL casts of Best making busts. Also did you not see the hundreds of storms in this game? Shuttle storm play during busts is micro intensive, not to mention RIGHT CLICK moving zealots along the best path mine-wise towards tanks, and moving goons past floating buildings to actually attack units.
@@utarian7 yeah some people will never understand and always associate mass zealot with brainless A move. Just think about it, if simply A moving zealots can kill Flash, then maybe Flash is not that good eh? In fact, among the Protosses Best has the fastest micro-management DURING a big PvT engagement. He can parachute-drop from 3 4 Shuttles flawlessly, manually move command the zealots through the mine field, and grab the HT to storm, all in just a few seconds. Then when the battle finishes, you notice that he already makes another round of macro and puts down a Nexus somewhere. It sounds so obvious but no other Protosses do that as well as him.
@@spinvn that fangedcow dude has some bizarre obsession with best. You'll find him commenting on every best game trying to minimalise best's skill. It's funny/sad
Love your recent Flash comeback games casting❤
gg Thanks for the cast!
This was way more of a test for Flash than that game vs. Stork. Best is almost like a specialist at breaking through Terran turtle shells. Great by both sides!
Holy crap some insane storms, didn't expect that from Best LOL
Amazing match. Flash eventually decided that he was going to try and win on 1-base economy while using his massive army. When Best eventually realized that Flash didn’t rebuild his SCV’s, he knew it was time to take a base in the top right.
Flash was hoping he could kill it as easily as he could the 6 o clock base… but the top right corner main base is too defensible. Unfortunate miscalculation. He would’ve been better off rebuilding the SCV’s and playing more defensively.
Good cast. Those storm drops by protoss won the day.
Glad to see some Flash ganes again , thanks
What a great epic match.
pumping out the casts like crazy. Thanks man!
Lock down has to absolutely wreck the speed shuttle style. Know it's a pain in the ass to get but like 6 ghosts spread around catching these when they can has to be crazy efficient in terms of trading.
you can tell flash is not mechanically in form currently, though give him a few months and he start making short work of these other pro players
He is quite good! He is getting old though and the rest are getting better with Protoss and Zerg! i always felt his opponents are not trying anything different to beat him, but we can see in this game that he can be beaten quite often with different combinations!
@@beslemeto I don't know if I agree with you on the other protoss and zergs getting better, if I anything I would say the opposite is true, especially with the zergs. Both Queen and Soulkey have being playing far below their peaks, and even Soma is not quite delivering. I hope Flash's return would breathe some life into the competition.
Only a few out of millions can beat flash, he's the best starcraft broodwar player of all time.
Nice seeing Flash get owned for a change.
Perhaps cringe, but your vids beat the loneliness away man. Your casts have a "hanging with the bros" vibe with brood war overlay.
Thanks I think lol
@@SaiyanKCM Oh definitely a compliment. I mean perhaps me feeling/thinking that as cringe, not your vids :)
Protoss need to include a proxy shield battery at some point to recharge shuttle/reaver
Not being a SC pro, but from the mini series vs Snow and this game, it seems that Flash has issues with 2 things: 1) not making 4th/5th bases quick enough, because protoss at some point makes 4-5-6 bases immediately, creating a big economic boost, while Flash runs out of resources and can't make new bases/army reinforcements 2) storm drops
As a Protoss main I actually like to have a stargate with +1 air weapons to make a few Scouts to SAFELY clear spider mines, shoot science vessels and floating buildings, and force Terran to spend Vespene Gas on Goliaths when he would rather make tanks. Stork use to do this back in the day and people are so unaccustomed to seeing Scouts they can be slow to counter them.
Then if I choose to go into carrier later in the game I ALREADY have my Stargate and +1 done.
wild
That's very interesting. I assume you watched the ASL finals mini vs rush.....
Famtastic cast by you man
Mmmmm very interesing game happen. Bravo, bravo boys you do well. You make me happy by making the game interesting. In the end, the goal of the interesting game is to gain experience from complex tangled very difficult situations in which it is difficult to determine the superiority or advantage of one or the other playing side. Many thanks to Flash and the other players who do their best to be able to work out the calculations accurately in the difficult and complex, high-risk game situations. Flash can really become a real big CZcamsr. Often times things are determined by the skill applied in the game and less by the game itself. As they say, a woman has never given me as much pleasure as playing Starcraft, Starcraft favoritos-VICTORIOS SPARTANOS ROMANOS 😉🙂 I wish you all the best guys. Good luck in your life and gaming. Some day we may meet in the arena in great Rome. You can be an audience and watch real reality. May the spirit of the blue dog protect you. This is what the Mongolians used to say when they crossed long distances😉🙃It was a pleasure to watch you Sometimes I have commitments and I don't have time to look at you, but I try not to forget you and find time to look at you, because after all, there are things that are remembered for a lifetime, especially when they are not nonsense but constructive, meaningful, valuable movements, work or play.
Thank you for the post!
Damn Flash forgot to macro
Nice, so good to see Flash losing.
Seems like a small group of wraiths might have been worth getting to hunt down some shuttles, but I am a noob so maybe not
That's becoming the meta these days
keeping 3 probes on gas and banking it up a bit is not a mistake. It just means that Best was not optimizing for an early timing push. It's totally fine to float gas for when all the tech kicks in. It's actually more optimized for midgame than sending a probe off and back on the gas. Shuttle speed and a few dragoons and the gas is spent by 5 30 in game clock (3:44).
You're right. My understanding of protoss is pretty basic
@@SaiyanKCM here is Best's thought process for the opening:
- at first he intends to open with dragoon, then range, then Nexus, just like normal
- but after his probe meets the scouting SCV at top right, and then sees Flash is not top right, he knows Flash has to be cross-spawn --> he cancels range to have the Nexus a bit earlier (the cancel is to save mineral, not gas)
- then when he sees Flash is not just cross-spawn, but also goes for gasless expand, he knows early Terran aggression (like FD) is out of the question, but he's also too late for dragoon pressure on the bunker, so that's why he skips range all the way to after the Reaver tech.
At top level they optimize the build to every second like that.
太精彩了
Leonardo da Vinci - 'Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds them. We live by the death of others. We are burial places.'
*NPCs be like:* 'This world is unjust, unfair based on pointless/unnecessary exploitation, slavery, suffering, war, famine, theft, trauma, loss, death, disease, hopelessness and despair, depression, anxiety, panic, mental illness, birth defects, endless bills/fees/taxes, unaffordable less toxic food(i.e. organic), unaffordable housing, the basic needs can HARDLY be met by working 2 full time jobs 7 days a week, the air and water poisoned by pollution, conventional food is full of poisons, nepotism/racism/discrimination is rampant through the roof, bullying, gaslighting, guilt tripping, crime, manipulation, coercion, genocide, total dictatorship, zero privacy, being one paycheck away from becoming homeless, completely demonic evil diabolical corporations/not so secret societies running the world, fraud, murder, rape, violence, cruelty, brutality is the norm of life, the ‘you will own nothing and be happy about it’ thing, it is a terrible/horrible existence.''
*Few seconds later same NPCs be like:* ''I think every human should force at least 15+ other humans into this delightful world via breeding like unconscious beast/NPCs.'
NPC 'logic', 'morality', 'ethics', 'rationality', 'love'.
I like the DaVinci quote but what's all that other stuff about..
@@SaiyanKCM “What are y’all talking about life not being a gift! Life is so precious, beautiful, and fulfilling. The good things in life require hard work and if life was always easy, it would be boring. It’s about the hustle, the grind, the hours, and that work. Y’all need to toughen up and stop complaining about being tired of always working and being broke. Pull yourselves up by the boot straps and work hard, hell, work a second full time job if you have to. Yes we pay to live, but somebody has to pay for the work. Bad things are constantly happening, but you should stay positive! Be grateful you’re alive and have jobs. Oh yeah, get married, have some kids so they can make you happy and also you can teach them about good work ethics. Life isn’t all fun and games, so stop complaining and make that dough. By the way, enjoy your company pizza parties !” - NPC-breediotards
It's the gift that keeps on taking… Life where you have to pay for everything can never be a gift. Can anything imposed without option be a gift?
"Your parents gave you life, be grateful" But we didn't desire or need life in the first place
Forced into existence by two low IQ, coward, loser, purposeless, lonely, megalomaniacal, selfish/narcissist imbeciles. Forced to ‘school’, i.e. public indoctrination camps. Forced to ‘work’, i.e. forced into a LIFELONG slavery. Pay or DIE. Life is a gift and be grateful for it or else !
theres this cool thing about flash games where the opponent plays REALLY well and you know he would've won but it was flash and his macro is just bonkers. there's too much stuff all the time.
Hey, I like the casts, but please don't cut off so much of the start of the game. Like a lot of decisions have been made already by the time there are 12 SCVs. I would prefer to simply watch it from the very beginning, but at the very latest I'd say one could skip to 8 SCVs because then it is possible to look at the timings of things like barracks, depot, scout, etc.
Ok I will consider that, thank you
Any idea why Flash not streaming? Is it cause of crypto ,doesnt wanna till he is good,or sometihng else or we dont know?
No idea
gg
I love seeing Flash lose XD
Ich bin sicher nicht ansatzweise so gut wie Flash in dem Spiel, aber ich hätte zumindest einige Türme gebaut, um meine Basen vor Storm Drops zu schützen?
valkiry flash valkiry not goliat
Is this Terran really played by Flash? Looks like Artosis playing
its confirmed flash
Best is the best protoss right now
SPOILER
BEST STORM GOD
Mata terran best
How much MMR is flash at?
2589
@@SaiyanKCM holy F. I remember Scan saying on RT cast that Flash is 3000+ MMR when in shape
@@KoruAeruthe ladder is so broken mmr on ladder is pretty much meaningless
@@SaiyanKCM he was at 2750 when he played against snow
@@eNoqfOu Snow fixed that pretty quick
Best was always the one player who could actually beat flash, mainly because for some reason he of all protosses knows how to abuse mass zealot A-moving. Once Flash gets his mechanics back to counter the brainless A-Move, he'll be in good shape to return to terminator status
because he has the best macro in the world man
Best does not simply A-move bro. Lmfao. He breaks terran static D in set ups that seem impossible. Watch some of tastosis ASL casts of Best making busts. Also did you not see the hundreds of storms in this game? Shuttle storm play during busts is micro intensive, not to mention RIGHT CLICK moving zealots along the best path mine-wise towards tanks, and moving goons past floating buildings to actually attack units.
@@utarian7 yeah some people will never understand and always associate mass zealot with brainless A move. Just think about it, if simply A moving zealots can kill Flash, then maybe Flash is not that good eh?
In fact, among the Protosses Best has the fastest micro-management DURING a big PvT engagement. He can parachute-drop from 3 4 Shuttles flawlessly, manually move command the zealots through the mine field, and grab the HT to storm, all in just a few seconds. Then when the battle finishes, you notice that he already makes another round of macro and puts down a Nexus somewhere. It sounds so obvious but no other Protosses do that as well as him.
@@spinvn that fangedcow dude has some bizarre obsession with best. You'll find him commenting on every best game trying to minimalise best's skill. It's funny/sad
templar drop is so OP, it is so fast as you don't have to seige or burrow
Mata terran best