MICROTONAL TETRIS
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2022
- this isnt a real game or anything this is a serial tetromino chorale in 5-limit (on a 5/4 by 3/2 lattice)
it has rules though. there are 12 unique tetrominos used (out of the.. what 15?, rotations and flips count as unique because they are unique chords!) we cycle through them five times. i think. maybe six? you can count. the first rule, which i break once, is that every piece must connect by at least one square to ever other. so right there thats... not realy tetris is it? but this gives us a basis for interesting modulations. the second rule is that while the pieces must go in the serialized order, we can "slide" the same piece left right up or down to create a different chord of the same type. i only do this twice in the fifteen minute thing, both times with the... 9th chord i think? this is akin to, in 12 tone serialism, how repeated notes are allowed. repeated chord shapes are allowed - but they must slide. those are the rules.
it has about three sections. its all just chords. anyway i dont think ill do something like this again. im tired of making things that people mistake for being made by ai. thats just embarrassing. the next thing im going to do is going to have a lot of personality. too much personality. if there is a next thing lol.
if you'd like to know more: / discord - Hudba
sounds like a movie scene where the main character floats in space alone, accepting that they'll be alone for a long, long while while looking at the stars. love it!
Honestly I’m going to have that life for the rest of August😂
Don't give up! I still don't understand any of this stuff but it is so intriguing I want to hear more
I love it because it's a very creative way to find new chords and can be made with different figures, like minor 3rd instead of major 3rds etc
This is honestly my favorite piece of yours yet. Not only does it sound amazing (the way it just SITS on those subtle dissonances!) but it's also visually interesting. the way the pieces slowly lower into place, or sometimes come out of nowhere, gives it a really unique anticipation.
I know, right! That B1/4b E1/4b G C chord (4:08) is so beautiful, whilst somehow maintaining a sort of dissonance.
Honestly a pretty genius yet subtle idea: a Tetris game; but the background is a tuning 5-limit (or 7-limit, whatever) lattice, and when a block lands, the corresponding harmony in the lattice is played.
once again i find that it's you who expands my mind to this stuff.
dokuro senpai
yoo dm dokuro im a big fan of that song the confusion of being human
people saying microtones should be used for horror movies make me sad this harmony can be so genuine and heart wrenching i've come back to this channel so many times in the last week
On each chord, it seems that overtime that beginning dissonance melts away into an eerie sort of tranquility, somewhere between dissonance and resolution. Thats what I love about microtonality - it can be used in such an interesting way that it can somehow be dissonant and yet so amazingly beautiful, all at once.
I read the description and i just wanted to say: please don't give up! What you're doing is absolutely incredible...
oh something i forgot to mention, there is an extra fifth note in one of the chords. a secret hidden note. let me know in the comments if you know what it is!!
Is that the interloper at 3:42? I stumbled on the note (F?) accidentally while trying to play along with the music.
@@tapewormsaga thats right!!
That proves the musicianship even further.
What’s is astounding about this is that every chord manages to both feel like a resolution while still needing to resolve, making every single chord change feel so satisfying.
Woah, a lot of interesting colors and chord combinations, I can start imagining how 7-limit or 11-limit will sound on these
new tetris 4 wide rotation amogus strategy speedrun 😳😳😳😳(no septimal comma)(world record)(gone wrong)(the police came)(to listen to this wonderful harmony)
This comment right here, officer.
even in my music i can't escape the 4 w*des 🤮
Exceptional music. Horrendous game of tetris. Thank you for making it!
This kind of stuff is impossibly beautiful.
It's all meticulously crafted, and it directly is transmits to the subconscious part of me.
Your work, is the stuff of magic. May it be long and arduous, but know that it is all magical.
Interesting way of making chord progressions that feel in a direction.
This sounds like it belongs in some super contemplative indie game. Between this and the "puzzle chords", I'd love to see your take on something the Fez OST, where its all about interesting chord changes, often implied by arpeggiated chord tones. Please keep going, you happened to start posting videos around the same time I started learning about this sort of stuff, and its been neat to try and match my understanding against what you've put out. Just gotta keep trying until the algorithm bites.
i love the fez ost, i've been trying to apply its techniques for my own microtonal/xenharmonic work! the deal with fez is that it basically has underlying scales and progresses between those so the chords just function as manifestations of the scales. scales repeating at 3/2 turn out to be really good for this since you can access a good fifth in any mode and have multiple different-feeling "voicings" of the same note
dont give up mannfish!! i genuinely adore all of your content and have watched every video on your tiktok and youtube channel! i am absolutely fascinated by this stuff and want to learn more about it and your content has been a major player in me learning about microtonal music. i really do hope you continue, your content is just fascinating and i love every second of it
I love the chord modulation starting at 9:51 , it sounds very nice. I appreciate the visualization and technical work you put into these; as much mathematical principles and stuff that an AI or computer could do, some of the tunings and microtonal works you've done (like this) have helped calm my mind and deal with different emotions.
The chord progression from 1:18 to 1:50 is so good
This is really outstanding, it's like discovering the music for the first time like a baby ! The idea to link the chords in between with the Tetris pieces is actually very smart and pedagogic. Thank you for this ! I guess something is also possible with chess movements of the pieces.
Don't give up!! I love you, your channel, and most of your videos INCLUDING this one!!
9:57 -- мой любимый момент. Как будто доминанта до диез минора разрешается в шестую ступень, но из-за соль диеза второй аккорд звучит больше как минор, чем как мажор, хотя по идее должен звучать ля мажор.
exactly right!
What are the cent equivalents for each of these notes? I wanna experiment with these on my own DAW.
generally speaking, the up arrows are +21¢ and the down arrows are -21¢, bur the pythagorean tuning of the fifths makes it more complicated. here is a chart (very unfinished but it should be a start anyway ) i.imgur.com/GYwVBjl.png
@@mannfishh Thank you for this chart. This is a lot better than the stuff I've managed to find for sure.
i got real shivers listening to this. you've revealed the raw bones of what makes me love the soundtracks of hyper light drifter, caves of qud, and disco Elysium. if i were to make music my only hope would be that it could sound like this
This is such a wonderfully informative look into lattice based composition with microtonal tuning at its heart. Wonderful chord etude. I truly enjoyed every twist and turn it took.
That chord at 05:13 gives me the chills every time.
I wasn't expecting this to work more like an experiment or an étude, not as something truly engaging musically, but I had to swallow my words. This is very beautiful and emotionally powerful. I *love* this idea of using just intonation not to seek for "perfect" consonances, but to actually exploit dissonances and colours that don't exist in tempered systems. Even without the "game" logic and the visual element (which are both great), just the music itself is lovely. Thank you for sharing such beauty with us.
And by all means, do carry on with your "too much personality" thing! We always need more personality in art. Either way, just do whatever you wish to do, and don't bother with silly comments.
favorite chords
0:51
1:02
1:43
1:54
3:13
3:42
4:44
6:21
8:13
10:44
why not include my bro 9:50?
@@arcioko2142 i tried to but you've kept preventing me from editing the comment so i gave up
@@virtueisdead ?
this video kinda gives an explanation of the tuning lattice czcams.com/video/ZJfAVSVgaSI/video.html
BloodEyePact mentioned in a comment to "keep trying until the algorithm bites" - Well, that's how I got here. Never seen any of your videos before and this just pops up in my recommended, am now subscribed. I'm someone with a bit of a casual interest in more abnormal music theory stuff so I'm glad I've run into this.
Can I just say, the quality of this video is epic? Not only is the musical concept really interesting (and the actual musical sound doubly so), the visuals are awesome! And it looks to me like you put a lot of work into them, so serious respect for that. The idea of making chords on a lattice like this with tetromino shapes (and the other rules you mentioned) is cool! It just takes a glance at the description and reading something like "I only do this twice..." to know this isn't made by AI, so though I haven't watched many of your videos yet, I'm not sure why anyone would make that mistake.
If you want to make something that has "too much personality" next, go ahead, I'm sure you'd make something good from that too - but don't be discouraged from making more stuff like this.
I at least, enjoyed it!
The transition to the square is FIRE
The second one!
this might be the best microtonal piece I ever heard! Incredible work!
No AI could ever be so incredibly precise. This is so beautiful it is absurd. Every chord is just perfect, and it all sounds so strange but no chord change ever sounds weird or out of place. Every chord change takes me by surprise but makes sense. I am in awe of this. This feels like how music was supposed to be tuned to begin with. Please please please tell me you have published this audio somewhere!
You could actually make a video game like this.
It's absolutly amazing the work you do in microtonality in this chanel, It's really ear opening. I wanted to hear perfectly "tuned" chords and in your chanel I found much more than just perfect intonation. Thanks for your originality, It's beautiful. 🙏
ok almost every single time id try to figure out how a chord would resolve or what would follow it, it went where i expected, yet it still managed to shock me. this stuff is magical
This is some Max Richter-level prettiness. I feel like it'd work well in some kind of gritty, realistic tragic film.
If you're in NYC in october on friday the 13th 20203, come see the premiere of my most ambitious set of pieces to date!!!! At Marc A Scorca Hall 330 7th Avenue on the 7th floor at 7:30!!!!
If I only were on NYC ;(. I want to know if there will be videos of 13th?
This is beautiful in a way i haven't heard much microtonal music express.. Good job.
The cube chord is the best
as a hobby coder that also does produce some music and plays guitar
i'm blown away, the audiovisual thing is pretty damn nice man
KEEP GOING KEEP GOING GIVE US ALL THE PERSONALITY U GOT
This reminds me of a piece called source code that i got to hear played by the symphony. Beautiful microtonal piece with this incredibly shifting and sliding
I like it! Years and years ago I programmed the same grid, inspired by a book about Leonard Euler that explained that the 5th and the third are really the intervals that make music rather than how keys are constructed from only fifths (or even worse: equal temperament). But when I finished the app, it was a kind of midi player, I didn’t know what to do next with it. Playing Tetris on it and making chord music with that is a very great application!
nevermind those stray ai mistakes- there will always be clueless onlookers, but of you theres only one of
and we like you (a lot)
i wish you get betters bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3:09 to 3:24 and then again to 3:41 those shifts are so incredible
A few moments of music to contemplate a more just world.
Can't wait to hear the sound of a T-Spin. Here we go!
They had the opportunity to, if you rotate you can get past the 1-wide gap, sad 😭
For the A major scale, it would sound like a cycle of this:
A/9 C#5/E5 E/4 A5/D#5
That is to say, an A major plus 9, a E perfect fifth over a C# perfect fifth, an E major plus 4, and an C# perfect fifth over an A perfect fifth.
In other words, it sounds like cycling between A major, C# major, and E major.
please don't stop. this is probably my favorite of your pieces so far
it's very simple but the harmonies are of course beautiful and they're sequenced so well
1:38 that resolve is insane
I have listened to it many times. It gives me feelings that are inexpressible and complicated. Even my long forgotten synesthesia came back. I don't know what it is, I just listen and listen.
This actually sounds beautiful, what the HECK!?
Great birthday present! Looking forward to it. love these sound sensations on your channel ! Just keep doing what you do. This channel will surely blow up in no time
If this works for something, it would've never crossed my mind this was made by an AI. This absolutely beautiful stuff and I enjoy hearing it a lot!
You've created such a beautiful oasis with this channel! Thank you.
Please don't give up, I love hearing and watching these videos!
I revisit this video all the time btw. Just stunning
So glad I've stumbled upon your work, been listening to this with so much joy and interest, this does satisfy me musically in ways I haven't felt up until now with microtonal music. Keep up the good work! This is some amazing work!
Absolutely amazing piece, it takes me back to so many places and evokes so many memories. It's indescribably beautiful.
Awesome! I love these kinds of harmonies
I'm so happy that I finally found your CZcams channel! Your videos are what got me into microtonality in the first place :]
I really love these lattices by the way, such a good way to visualize chords!
I've been interested in just intonation for a long time but haven't had the opportunity to just test around and tinker with it since I didn't have any tools to easily create or perform microtonal music. but with these diagrams and music, I can feel how the chords sound like, which makes it so satisfying. always looking forward to future videos!
also, I think it would be more easy to know what's going on if there were notations for every chord :)
Beautiful!!!!!
Fantastic, goes way over my head! The graphics are also amazing, almost hypnotic!
I really like coming back to this video from time to time! :)
I like how to the camera gets more zoomed out the more you progress
Very original content. Things like these make me have faith in humankind's thrive for the exploration of the unknown. Also gives me a reason to think CZcams is still worth shit. Thanks.
はじめまして。
私は英語が苦手なので、日本語で書きます。
mannfishhさんの動画をいつも楽しく拝見しています。
5limitの和音を可視化して多くの人に理解しやすくしておられるのは素晴らしいと思います。
また、理解できなくても見ているだけでも楽しめます。
心と体の健康をどうか大切にしてください。
thank you! I appreciate the kind words
your vids are too good please don't stop :(
This is FIRE! Keep 'em coming!
i put off watching this for a while because of the length, but wow. 15 minutes well spent. inspiring stuff!!
The chord progression hans zimmer doesn't want you to knnow
yeah you need to keep making videos like these. i may not be able to fully understand it, but it is cool as heck
this is beautiful!
mannfishh I love your work! (even tho I don't understand it lol, but it has gotten me into this awesome mysterious world and I love it)
I find this very inspiring. Thank you for making this
Wonderful sounds! This reminds me a bit of Ellen Arkbro’s work with organ and brass in meantone temperament: simultaneously earthy and otherworldly.
combining two of my favourite things
oh hello! ive heard about you!
I really dig this! I'm gonna have to listen to it tomorrow on the big stereo :D
this is actually fire, but the chill kind 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️
I could watch this all day
this sounds amazing
I just read the description, and let it be noted that this didn't feel AI generated at all to me. That was amazing!
This sounds amazing
Beautiful!
kinda Dune 2021 sound. ultra mega super cool
that's surreal
very cool, thanks so much
9:46 imo the best chord change in the entire video
Wow I loved this! This is one of the rare instances where I actually really liked micro tonal music, good job and keep going! One question though, on the technical side, what program did you use to make this micro tonal experiment, was it just a vst in a daw? Or a stand alone software of some sort? Thank you in advance, I really liked these string harmonics you used, the only sounds I ever used for micro tonal music were cheap sounding synth, I never found a way of using cooler sounds like this... Anyway thank you again for these nice 15 minutes of experiment!
you made my eyes tear...
Wow this is amazing
I really like the resolution right at the very end
awesome video
It's beautiful
how did i get here. i dont even remember anything music thoery past what a major triad is im peering into some fuckin wizard portal here. very cool sounds i am terrified
this sure is amazingg
I love you dude
but for real this sounds beautiful
This is so cool
Please, don't give up!
OMG THIS IS SO COOL
This will blow out