Why Elves & Dwarves Don't Like Each Other? Middle Earth | The Lord of the Rings
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- Why elves and dwarves don't like and trust each other. Reasons for elf and dwarf enmity, starting from creation.
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way more to consider - With a certain clan of dwarves: A giant set of events throughout the ages caused a huge rift between dwarves & elves since before any elf ever saw a dwarf. Elves are the firstborn. Men are the secondborn. Dwarvish forefathers were created by the hands of one of the Valar named Aulë, then essentially Eru Îlluvatar(AllFather) breathed life into them to later wake up at a later date since Aulë was still excited to create things of his very own. It’s also why dwarves overall can resist the rings power and so forth.
There were these beings became known as Petty Dwarves in the books where these beings were super hostile and the elves thought it was just another spawn of Melkor (now Morgoth) so when they finally did see actual dwarves they killed them on site. That and dwarves were keen on chopping down trees by huge amounts so you can kind of see why… but this was only the beginning. But it’s not a very good start. Buuut not all dwarvish clans share this rift as the creator of the 16 rings was an elf named Celebrimbor and is one of the best characters ever. His main smithery guild in Eregion was full of dwarves and elves called the “Gwaith Ír Mirdain”. Even Gimli’s father was really close to a certain elf I won’t name yet! ❤
Not all dwarves were enemies to elves. Galadriel and her brother were best friends with dwarves. Famously the fortress of Nargothrond was built by Finrod Felagund with the dwarves! It was only a certain clan that killed Elu Thingol! (Elwë)
Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain. His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
If you search for
'victorian hair art' then you can see what amazing things people created with hair in the past. Craftsmen as dwarfs were, I imagine that Gimli must have created something beyond exquisite!
Gimli attacking the ring shows it has no hold over him just like the Dwarvish rings out of the 16 meant to go to the elves had no hold over them. So technically they could easily be used offensively and defensively but many disappeared over the ages mainly due to Sauron collecting them back again over the last few thousand years. One or two eaten by dragons (not simple minded beasts here. They were twisted and enhanced beings by Melkor/Morgoth(Saurons Upperclassman as far as the Ainur face goes.).
There were only a few of them and their offspring are lesser drakes throughout middle earth. Most recent one you’ll see in The Hobbit movie and one other most recent dragon left of the originally created dragons was Scatha, of which I don’t think Scatha even has wings or could fly in any permanent sort of way.
“Evil cannot create. Only twist and warp what is already natural to the world”
Gimli set the 3 braided tresses of Galadriel’s hair into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
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"Celeborn gazed at the Dwarf in wonder, but the Lady smiled.
'It is said that the skill of the Dwarves is in their hands rather than in their tongues ' she said; 'yet that is not true of Gimli. For none have ever made to me a request so bold and yet so courteous. And how shall I refuse, since I commanded him to speak? But tell me, what would you do with such a gift?”
“Treasure it, Lady,' he answered, 'in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if ever I return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystal to be an heirloom of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.”
Then the Lady unbraided one of her long tresses, and cut off three golden hairs, and laid them in Gimli's hand.
"These words shall go with the gift,' she said. 'I do not foretell, for all foretelling is now vain: on the one hand lies darkness, and on the other only hope. -
But if hope should not fail, then I say to you, Gimli son of Gloin, that your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion."
Prophecy and gift are one; Galadriel is recognizing Gimli's nobility of characte for all elves to understand, explicitly, and finally. In doing so she formally ends any grievance the elves of Lothlorien have with the people of 'the Mountain'. This is why Gimli wears the titles of 'Elf-Friend' and 'Lock-Bearer' in lore.
The silmaril in question was after Beren and Lúthien popped one out of Morgoth’s dark crown. So… leaving this detail out makes it all look PETTY.
Funny how even after the sacking of Doriath and killing Thingol those same dwarves tried to kill Beren, Greatest ancestor of Aragorn II Ellesar, Gil Estel! And he triumphed over these great dwarves even without a hand that he’d already lost to Carcaroth long ago. Greatest werewolf in middle earth who was “created” by Sauron or Morgoth himself
Galadriel & her elder brother Finrod Felagund were best friends with the dwarves. Finrod was named Felagund by the dwarves meaning “Earth Hewer” from the fact he helped them build the great fortress called Nargothrond of which he was the elven lord that ruled there justly. Was the same for Celebrimbor and the dwarves of Eregion especially the guild called Gwaith Í Mirdain. His bestie was Narvi the dwarf. Narvi and Celebrimbor created the doors of Moria. Moria is also the elvish name for Khazad Dûm. This gift for Gimli set it into imperishable Crystal and would be the only thing left in middle earth that holds the light of the two trees of Valinor (Valanor by the Eldar). It’s basically the uncursed version of the Nauglamir. He named it The Galadramir. ❤
The dwarves of a particular clan already murdered Thingol. Greatest elven king of the ancestral homeland of Middle Earth named Beleriand. That other half of middle earth later sunk to the bottom of the sea after the war of wrath between Morgoth and the Valar and all peoples of middle earth joining with them! Not every clan of dwarves had a big issue with elves.
Why are you showing art of Finrod Felegund like that? Doubt he’d wear the Nauglamir haha. But it is a nice way to show what it may have looked like. Many top Tolkien artists have illustrated it perfectly though! So much art to use. The box Tolkien channels use the official arts without issue
The AI Narrator is a little rough, good information tho
wdym? You can hear the narrator drawing breath....
@NinjaAdorable it's AI. You can tell by the way he pronounces some words
Legolas and Gimli have changed all that
Nah. It was way more to do with Galadriel and her brother Finrod with the dwarves of Nargothrond. And Celebrimbor with Narvi and the dwarves and elves who were in the smithery guild of Gwaith Ír Mirdain
"Celeborn gazed at the Dwarf in wonder, but the Lady smiled.
'It is said that the skill of the Dwarves is in their hands rather than in their tongues ' she said; 'yet that is not true of Gimli. For none have ever made to me a request so bold and yet so courteous. And how shall I refuse, since I commanded him to speak? But tell me, what would you do with such a gift?”
“Treasure it, Lady,' he answered, 'in memory of your words to me at our first meeting. And if ever I return to the smithies of my home, it shall be set in imperishable crystal to be an heirloom of my house, and a pledge of good will between the Mountain and the Wood until the end of days.”
Then the Lady unbraided one of her long tresses, and cut off three golden hairs, and laid them in Gimli's hand.
"These words shall go with the gift,' she said. 'I do not foretell, for all foretelling is now vain: on the one hand lies darkness, and on the other only hope. -
But if hope should not fail, then I say to you, Gimli son of Gloin, that your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion."
Prophecy and gift are one; Galadriel is recognizing Gimli's nobility of characte for all elves to understand, explicitly, and finally. In doing so she formally ends any grievance the elves of Lothlorien have with the people of 'the Mountain'. This is why Gimli wears the titles of 'Elf-Friend' and 'Lock-Bearer' in lore.
Illuvatar would be female if he birthed the Ianor. 🧝🏻♂️
Birthed the what?
@@Makkaru112 sorry not in the mood for hypothetical fantasy theory of creationism right now.