Why you should NOT get a KTM 690 SMC R | Top 5 reasons explained.
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- What's up BKLF gang! Today another video and this time about my top 5 reasons why you should NOT get the KTM 690 SMC R. So this is is the second episode continuing from my last video on my top 5 reason you SHOULD get the 690. As always leave any questions in the comments section and enjoy the ride ;).
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Reason 1 - Height
2:42 - Reason 2 - The dollars
8:00 - Reason 3 - No comfort
11:24 - Reason 4 - Compromise
15:05 - Reason 5 - One of a kind
17:32 - Outro
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BIKE
KTM 690 SMC R 2020
MODS:
Arrow exhaust (with db killer and catalyser)
Bridgestone Battlax S21R TYRES
Open air filter box
Shinyo Mirrors
Zieger skid plate
Powerparts seat
R&G Tail Tidy
Gear:
Camera: GoPro Hero 5 Black
Position: Chin Mount - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Hi! excellent video 🙂! My 2010 SMC has now 54.000kms, dealer serviced, and still goes like a rocket ;-) . Greets from Belgium 🙂
Amazing!
I'm 169cm and do just fine on my 690. Ride height should not be a problem if you know how to ride. The 2017 has a gear indicator and a tachometer. Oil changes are something you should easily be able to do yourself. They are super simple, even with dual oil filters. I broke my back 10 years ago and had 3 separate multi-level spinal fusion. My whole back is titanium and supermotos are some of the only bikes I can comfortably ride. I do agree for long haul, multi day highway riding it's not great. But it's not really made for that. Reason 4 I agree with. It's not as nimble as a pure SM but the service intervals are far better.Top speed is around 200kph so your will be fine in 95% of group rides.
Great video though man. I love the content.
Good points man! Of course everything I mentioned can be remedied or might not be a big deal for everyone. In fact, for me most of it is not such a big deal either. Even with the seat, like I said I do long tours and don't care if it hurts a little because I too know that this is how supermotos are made, So yeah I get you but for some people (especially more casual riders who don't know much about supermotos or don't do much work on their bikes) this might be different. With the top speed, it's true you can be that fast but I would never enjoy riding with a bunch of sports bikes on the highway with this bike and neither with touring bikes. I go 130kph on the highway for longer distances if I have to because everything else isn't really doable for more than maybe 30min. But of course man aalll of this is pretty subjective so really appreciate your comment. it helps everyone get a better picture. Also glad that you like the content! Feel free to write in the comments what else you would like to see at any point. :)
@@bklf202 yeah totally agree with you dude. I would not like to spend hours on the highway on my 690. I do ride with sports bike riders, but usually in the twisties. I would love to see a video on all the different places you have taken your 690. They are a pretty versatile bike IMO. Cheers for the message back mate and keep up the vids 👍🏻
Alright, have heard this more often now so will def make a video on the tours I have made with the bike! Thanks man :)
Did they change the display and remove features?
I have the 690 enduro r and it’s been great fun. The aftermarket is very good for these bikes. I’ve done a yoshimura r77 slip on, Rottweiler fueling dongle, twin air foam filter, sas removal, Scott’s damper with brp rubber mounted risers, t-Rex crash bars, wider pegs and the gas cap. I wanted a bike that I could get back into the trails with but could ride there instead of trailering. I chose the 690 enduro r and couldn’t be happier with my decision. Enduro or Supermoto they truly are amazing machines 👍
Great video, selling my Yz 250 because all I do is road ride. So you answered alot of my questions. 690 it is. Thx.
Glad to hear it! You will love it then.
That's why I bought the 690 Duke! Well done!
1. This is one of the easiest bikes to work on yourself, a lot of videos out there. 2. bike can be lowered. 3. fairing kits available. 4. good resale value 5. great components
I found one for 8k where I am and that’s the same price as a DRZ in good shape so I think I am going to get this 😊
Thanks for the review. I read somewhere that the 690 has an issue with the crank or some manufacturer defect with the engjne? Is that true? Love this bike thanks for the vid man ❤
Great video and really good observations. I'm super interested how you pack/prepare for longer trips. Do you have bags attached to your smc r or just have a single backpack on your back? How does it look like? There is really so few info on how people prepare SMCR for a trip.
Thanks! and yes very true that there is little information out there. I could def do a video on that soon. But well.. I actually did about everything wrong that I could packing wise :D learned a lot on my last trip and would be happy to share those lessons.
@@bklf202 would be happy to watch this, can't wait. All best!
but the mosko moto rackless sistem, goes amazing on my 701
These bikes are best purchased as an ENDURO (plated) and ridden with a SuMo Kit for around town hooliganism and bike nights. 2 bikes in 1. Make sure you have other bikes for your other needs. Nothing better then a 50+ year old wheelieing a dirt bike down a busy city street then pounding some Pints at the local watering hole
haha thank for the awesome comment!
This is the first review that I found to actually talk real shit. Thanks man.
Thank you for the nice Video.I like my KTM .For me the best bike for travelling. Greets from Hungary.
Totally agree!
I have one 690 too and have 174cms and isnt too bad the height, i had a mt-07 before and legs got tired because got crouched, she is for sure tall but light.
It is expensive for sure to buy one but sadly no equivalent bike for someone that enjoy supermotos and ride a lot. I had a CRF and did 25 oils changes in 2 years and 3 months, so the KTM is not that expensive. Tires are 160 so normally cheaper than a 180 of a naked. A mitas rear tires plus install is like 130/150€.
The reservoir oem covers are for sure crappy for a expensive bike like this.
I bought a used oem seat and replaced the cover and foam and works much better now. A cyclist paded shorts will help. Another grips help too.
Lithium battey and exhaust would help a little in the weight loss.
For sure this bikes need a gear indicator for wheelies mainly.
If you ride with friend that have nakeds is doable. Mine is shorten transmission and can be at 160 in the motorway nicely. In twisties this bike is a nightmare for supersports and nakeds. Motorway is just for supersports, even for nakeds is boring.
I agree with pretty much all of that. Covered some of the points in my previous video on why you SHOULD get the 690. So yes you are totally right. Thanks for sharing your experience with the seat height as well! Wish there would be more choice for supermotos on the market like the ones by KTM. For now gotta hand it to KTM for still making these bikes (and engines) in the first place. For that alone it is worth paying the price. But you gotta love supermotos otherwise it’s not worth it I would say.
If you could get a 500 exc f motard to compare that would be cool. Nice video! I ride a drz400sm
Thanks! I have experience on the 450 and 125 since I have an enduro background and used to ride theirs supermoto versiones as well. Maybe an idea for a future motovlog :) and the drz400 is a true legend, nice ride!
At first I though this was a **hating on KTM** video and didn't click on it because. Afterward, you've made excellent points! Im still gonna buy it, rode on a 640 LC4 Enduro before but got hit by a car and the bike was total :( Can't wait till i'm fully recovered and ready to buy a new one. I got extra money for insurance now and I believe this bike is worth being broke for 😂
It kind of is! Love your comment thanks for sharing the feedback
Nice video, thanks so much, great observations.
Not to nit pic, but i feel i have to pick you up on something.
out of the three bikes you reference, if your weights and hp figures are correct. The 690 has the best power to weight ratio... 0.2355 for the 125, for the 450, its 0.326 for the 690 its 0.3495 kw/kg.
Love this kind of nit picking! I did mix up dry and wet weights though so some numbers are off a little. Would be nice to see the calculations with the correct numbers though cause it might be very similar.
Great video, with Good information thanks
Glad you liked it!
Gracias!! Ya sali de dudas, ahora tengo mas ganas de la 690😂 (Pero la version enduro)
Me encanta la version enduro tambien 😍 Quiero los dos.
Wow 1st service 300+ euro 👀 mine was 230$ U.S. and I thought that was crazy expensive but I feel with paying 14k$ U.S. that they should include a little with that price but I am still beyond happy with the bike
Would b nice to hear about your mods! I went with slip on 1st and in process of getting seat now but wish I would've done that 1st for sure
Also u got a new SUB here bro
Video on my mods is coming next Wednesday!
Just had the first service done on my 2022 and it was £156. Do like my local dealerships though. They're great!
@@Logsi27 wow that is a really fair price. I would also like that dealership :P
What do they do for the first service
@@pnw6139 they do 1st oil change (supposedly they do a inspection of oil 🤷) tighten my chain, and check any moving parts (tires, swingarm etc) and I think that's all but I could of missed a thing or 2
So , if you walk on the wild side , your a rebel , your 5' 6' or above you should buy the bike .. Their is a link that will allow you to lower the bike with a compromise of shock travel .. The Seat concepts XL seat is one of the best seats for an enduro I have ever sat on .. The XL is good for long rides so adventure touring is now on the table .. The the small petrol tanks are now 3.6 US Gal .. Should have been 5-5.5 at least to give the bike some range .. No issues here as I use two rear quick release side mounted 6 liter takes on both sides in the rear which allows me to almost double the range while keep in the CG lower than with a top mounted front saddle bag like tank .. I have also opted for the Rade Garage under the seat tank & airbox to further extend the range .. Upgrading the pipe to the Tekmo & the Yoshimura exhaust gives me 5 mpg better gas mileage with less back pressure from the Yoshi Pipe .. Remapped the fuel with the addition of a fuel air sensor dongle to richen up the mix a the lower end so the engine doesn't run as hot .. Changed the thermostat because the one KTM put in makes the bike run to hot .. After getting the ECU reflashed / mapped & dyno'ed , their are no unpredictable surges in the throttle as caused by the decrease in sensitivity of the O2 Sensor .. Love the Mitas e-07 dakar tire in the rear , this tire is near indestructible .. I have Motoz dual venture front & love that tire .. I'm running tubeless on front & back .. KTM clutch slave was crap replaced it with the Oberon ..
The exhaust note isn't critical to most folks .. I have only found two rear cans actually that have authority .. The Yoshi pipe is a head turner .. It is loud but without a RPM gauge the sound for me works better .. Who doesn't like the quick shifter on the bike ? .. This puts the bike in another class ..
sounds like you got yourself a beast
@@bklf202 The reason why I believe 690 is so good is that the bike is nimble but well mannered .. You can put around but you can also hammer the throttle & it feels predictable .. I got the O2 Dongle which made an amazing difference in the throttle response .. I got the Tekmo header pipe & the Yoshimura exhaust can .. The Yoshi exhaust note is a head turner ! ..
I find my 690 fits into the riding groups the BEST, as it works in all situations.
If im riding with touring bikes, sure they can go 240 KMH for 1 minute, but then they come to a twisty section and they cant go as quick as the 690.
If im riding with small Enduros and Motocross bikes, they can usually keep up, and I dont feel the need to be as agile as them, as Im not a stunt rider, just a casual trickster.
If im riding with adventure and offroad riders, I can take the 690 on dirt and gravel with ease, as it has the same riding style, just without the grip unless I fit different tyres.
So I run a motorcycle group with 670 members, and there's only like 3 riders who I seriously feel outpaced by, but an experience and confident rider on a 690 can do everything that the other bikes do!
so no one is going the mention the horse being casually walked @ 10:22 lol love it.
Tanks for your opinion!
Any time!
Im 47 and I love my 690 hard seat and all. You gust deal with it. Super fun bike to ride but here in Canada it can be hard to get parts sometimes.
I'm 5' 5" tall and love my 690 DUKE which is short, agile, very light and better looking than the SMT.
Love the 690, my next bike, but stunting on my DRZ is like no other.......
Haha yea the fez is for sure better for it :)
Drz*
1. In Switzwerland is one 12`000 CHF
2. The prices here for the services and tire changes are even or even more expensive
Crazy
im 5'1" definitely on the shorter end of the spectrum XD and my stock 701sm is fine with me yeah i tip toe always but its like that on any dirtbike style bike and you just get used to it. its an amazing bike and its definitely not too tall if i feel good on it but it not a street bike so gotta keep in mind its gonna be taller because the style of bike.
Then what should I go for?
I'm 24 years old, planning to get at least A2 category if not full A cat, and was thinking of getting one of these. What should I consider buying?
Also sorry for being a newbie but if I buy 690 enduro, and want to go ride supermoto, can I just change the weels or do I have to change some adapters for braking? Maybe different suspension setup IDK?
Thanks in andvance
As far as I know it is possible to change enduro r into supermoto just by changing wheels but only saw that on older models. One option is always just to change tires depending on how heavy to tend to go on the off-road. Gravel roads will do just fine. I would still recommend this bike for your A license but would make sure to get it with full warranty and insurance. Another option would be converting an EXC. then you can go off road as well and they are more reliable on my experience
I'm looking to get one but I'm just going to use it to go to work 12 miles on back roads and to putts around on trails so I would probly change the tires to 50/50 tires as I wouldn't want slicks or I'm looking at the 890 adv r also, I just can't make up my mind I need to go see them in person if you can find them together at the dealer at the same time.
Would consider the 690 enduro in that case
Im 165 cm with short legs, and I have no problems with my 690 height! Sure, its a handful to move around while sitting on the bike trying to park or whatever.
But normally you just move off the seat when you stop.
Normal servicing is NOT expensive. A service for brakes, oil, and valve clearance only cost me $600 AUD.
The rear tyre is only $300 to $400 AUD, and you can save $50 by taking the wheels off yourself.
You don't go to the dealer for tyres, you go to a tyre shop.
It IS comfortable, more comfortable than a Ninja or GSXR. I ride mine for up to 14 hours in a day, 1000 KM.
One weekend I rode 3500 KM in 4 days and was still not as sore as my friends on a Triumph Street, and Ducati ST4S.
I love how much FUN the 690 is, and I mainly ride twisties, but also long distance, and I still arrive with more smiles on my face than my friends, because I had crazy more fun getting there.
The weight is so light and the bike is VERY responsive in acceleration, braking, and leaning.,
I don't really use it for SM stuff, but its very capable!
600aud for service? that's really cheap.
i guess it depends where you live.
here in norway my 10 000Km service cost me 6000nok/862aud and i had a offer from another dealer at 10043nok ( 8385nok if valves didn't need adjusting ).
it's stupid expensive and if the service isn't done at the dealer the guarantee will disappear.
I am 169cm 28/29inc inseam and I'm tippy-toeing on Husqvarna 701 sm without any problem. In fact bike is so stable you can ride it with one foot without any problem when you get used to it. My model is 2021 and it has speed indicator. For previous models you can buy them off-market, I don't think they are very expensive. I don't think warranty cares about tire change. Rest of the stuff is pretty much on point.
I have question for powerpart seat. Is it worth the money, is it more comfortable then stock on? (I am from Europe so no Seat concept for me)
Yes I have heard that more often now that the seat height is not such a big deal for most people. That’s actually good to hear 👍 With the PP seat I would say it was worth it but you also should not expect too much. It’s not softer just more ergonomically shaped. In my case it helped it a lot but I can imagined that it also depends on the rider. So short answer is yes I would recommend it but if you have the chance def test ride it.
@@bklf202 thx for the info. Also you can go up and down with seat height for a few cm without changing motorcycle ergonomics. Mine is obviously at lowest point, maybe you can up it a bit that will suit you more regarding your height.
Kompliment für den Akzent, hört sich nicht so schrecklich deutsch an :D Sehr aufschlussreiches video!
I'm thinking about getting a KTM 690 as my first bike, but A2 restricted (prob gone remove it tho :) ) seems like a really fun bike. The main reason for getting the A2 license is for me to use it to get to school and back home. Takes around an hour in total and I would say almost 80% of the road are highways. Also to have some fun riding after school and with friends. Currently riding a KTM 125 duke and I'm soon 18. Do you think its a buy or pass?
also im not buying a new 690 im prob gonna buy a 2014 model
If it’s 80% highway I would think about an adventure bike from ktm or think about installing a wind shield on the smc r but that looks a bit shitty and you obvs wanna look dope when you arrive at school ;) for having fun with friends after school it’s ideal and in general I would recommend the smc r as the most fun bike you can probably get with an A2 but you need to know that it sucks with the wind on the highway.. if you can live with it get it! Also I would think about keeping it restricted because the power ist still great and then you can look forward to opening it later..
Going from a 125 Duke to an open 690 is a bit munch I think. Trust me the limited 690 will feel incredible compared to the 125 :) just my 2 cents, you can do what you want ofc
@@bklf202 Aight thanks for the feedback! The only thing that concerns me is about the wind and I've been thinking about it. At first I looked at getting a MT07 which prob suits the highway better and to school, but it's just something about the 690 thats special :). We'll see!
Also they do cost a lot of money but also hold there money real well compared to most other bikes, try and find a good cheap used 690 🧐, I do like your points but there are 2 sides to the coin that your followers should be aware of
Hahaha. I tried finding a good cheap 690 b4 buying my 2022 and yea that doesn't happen any good ones from last few years were like 1,000-2500 less than new and u still don't really know how that bike was broken in 🤷. So I went new and haven't once regretted it!
good point, I should have mentioned how well they hold their money! Maybe the community can upvote your comment here so everyone ends up reading it. I did also make a video on the top 5 reasons why you should get the 690 btw in case you think I am just bashing on the negatives here ;) good point though! Thanks for the reminder.
I have bike shop in Cheltenham England, Yes they hold there money well. Plenty other bikes with better build quality but KTM have the name, they sell within weeks and more or less for what you paid for it. If your going to ride for more than an hour a day I would have the 701 as even with comfort seat it’s not the best.
@@LivingLife-Fast Nice to hear this from someone who sells bikes for a living! Did not know the 701 had a bit better of a seat.
They are also very cheap to insure compared to other bikes, which I was pleased to discover as I bought mine without checking first😅
T. 4 the info 🙂
Always!
How much difference does the gel seat make?
Liked the video, new sub. Heard you say, you're videos get demonetized bcuz of swearing. I know there are apps who can translate audio to text and then automatically bleep curses, through AI. like an automatic video censor program, maybe it can help you out. Greetz
Awesome. Thanks for pointing it out! And welcome aboard ;)
22 smc r. Maybe best moto ever, shifter could be better. Really love the bike. 4k km behind
I do love it too. That’s why I also made a video on why you should buy it :)
It’s 147kg weight and top speed of around 120mph, they are a very naked bike that don’t have much comfort but wow mines so much fun on the twistys, I prefer the 6000 miles service compared to the competition ktm 450 etc like you mentioned as they need servicing far to regular for most peoples liking including myself, do yourself a favour and fit the tekmo front pipe,Sas delete and fit dynojet power commander with Rottweiler induction kit SHE WILL SOON WAKE UP 😂👍
hahahaha thanks! You are making me seriously consider it but here in Germany the police can be quite strict unfortunately and might take your bike off the road for a while if they see you make those changes.. but it would turn the beast into a whole other beast I am sure!
@@bklf202nazis
Nice bike!
Thanks!
Dude, 9.5k is cheeeaapp!!! its 35-36k here in Singapore. Bummer!!
Also the quickshifter is kinda shitty at least on mine alot of false neutrals REEEEEEE Good video btw
Thanks! And ver very true. Although I kind of got used to it. I find that if I pay attention to really pushing it through I don’t get false neutrals but you for sure gotta get used to it and it’s quite clunky.
@@bklf202 yeah i heard switching to an other gear lever could help with it too because its really sensative but i found that on a forums by looking on google from a guy that knew a guy that knew a guy with a ktm 690 smc r not even my model 🤣
The quickshifter can be reseted in the dealer, i will do on mine to see if it improves.
I had the healtech on the mt09 and mt07 and was much smoother.
On my 2022 it seems they got the false neutral sorta figured out. I have had a total of 3 in 2000 miles and each time I feel like I wasn't hard enough with my foot on the shift
@@22smcrrider96 im glad they figured it out for the 22 i always *if i use the quickshifter* use pretty good force with the foot to get it in but it happens alot from 4th to 5th might be an RPM thing idk :D
KIM'S are great! If you like working on your bike INSTEAD OF RIDING IT.
5:18 because of low weight and power - your tyre last lot longer than others
and oil amount is smaller to
plus one cylinder is 2x-4x cheaper to maintain than others
just think about it.. there is so much proffit!
but because it's a ktm and not jap rubbish - maintenance is really easy, so you can do it by yourself
I have ktm 690 smc 2017 enduro
The dash does not work anymore
I know that it has modes on it .
But right now it doesnt drive fast and i thought it would do powerwheelies
Do you know if thats normal or something is wrong with my bike ?
Are you at high altitude? I have found it more difficult to wheelie in high altitudes (~1200m and above). If you are not at high altitudes maybe you are expecting it to power wheelie as easily as an EXC?
Either way in 1st hear it should always power wheelie but I wouldn’t recommend that ofc. Second should work too.
They cost a lot of money , as you say for a reason. It’s an epic bike. As for the speedo. I hardly ever look at mine. Just ride it to its max and you’ll be rewarded handsomely.
yep def for a reason and I agree that it's worth it otherwise I would not have bought the bike ofc. So yea totally get you. But still worth mentioning that it is quite expensive. I think you do really need to like supermotos to be willing to pay the price. And yea gear indidcator would only be useful for wheelies but also don't care at the end of the day just kinda suited the content of the video to complain a little ;)
I ride alone most of the time my only concern is reliability. How reliable is it? I am done with pure sports and prefer hops.
Very reliable, 3 of my buddies have a 690, never had issues with it. We mainly stunt with them and sometimes go for some twisties. Good reliable bike imho.
Biggest reason not to buy is you can get a low km used Duke 690R which is a better on the road, only 10kg heavier a lower seat height and cost about a 1/3 of the price and still has that aggressive super motard feel just a little more refined and better at high speed.
And if you want something that's newer then there's always the Husqvarna Spartpian 701.
Also if you want something for off road and on road, just get the KTM 690 or Husqvarna 701 Enduro with 50/50 tyres.
I have a 2007 690. I have no plans to part with it but I think the same thing that I'd get a duke next before I payed the premium for another supermoto
There's no way you can flick a Duke around like you can this bike. I had four Dukes, a 200 , 390, 890, and 1290. Nothing is more nimble than a dirt bike with street tires.
@RayzGarage
Yeah I guess it depends on what speed you're doing. 60mph and under, yes, you are right but the Duke has a better high speed stability.
Also, the Duke 690R compared to regular Duke 690 has a taller seat and ride height as well as a more aggressive seating and peg position that makes it a bit more flickable then the regular Duke
Also I have Michelin Power GP tyres on the front on mine, so that helps it feel a bit more nimble, but yeah, it's no 450 SMR. It would be so cool if those could be road registered.
I got the new gas gas sm £7499 brand new huge saving on the ktm and 701
im so torn between the 690 and building a 500 exc f
i 5;11 ride a xr650l i touch tippy toes and i love it
You probably need to buy a couple of levers and an oil filter
I could make a switch my kawasaki versys 650 with a ktm 690 sm, afther seen this vid I think I'm not gonna do it. Because I need comfort seats and am only 1.76 m , so not verry high ... thanks for sharing this vid
I would still try it out at a shop if you have the chance. You can also lower the suspension! Hope this gives you all you need to decide :)
Each KTM has its place. The 690 SMC-R is designed for canyon racing close to home, it is not designed for long-distance tours. I use my 2023 KTM with supermoto wheels/tires for close to home CO canyon rides, and put the dirt wheels/tires back on when off-road riding is my choice. I am considering buying a 690 like yours for dedicated canyon rides, great video, thanks for sharing!
Would love to have that kind of terrain. Sounds awesome.
how can warranty be voide by doing you own tyre change? its easy as hell to swap tyres, unless you have your thumb in the middle of the hand. also oil changes can be done, BUT i wouldnt skip the service intervals at the dealership though, thats what voids yoiur warranty. on these bikes you can do pretty much yourself without being ruined(unless you have your thumb in the middle of the hand, if u have u will be punished automatically, and thats because if you are a man you are supposed to be able to do those things :D)
reviewing a bike like this in terms of confort is like like reviewing a mclaren p1 in off road terrain, nonsense.... Expensive, well that is relative, it is just like any other performance bike or even cheaper. Handling is just superb. Manitenance, well, if you know how to read you can do it easily. With ktm warranty is just a waste of time so you better do it yourself and save yourself the headache anyway. The japanese should build monsters like that one. Congrats on your bike
KTM should make the next gen. SM, a twin 900cc. A bit like the Nuda. As it is now, for me, it needs a lot more power.
For me it has plenty but to each their own 😅
I’m 5 foot 6 and can tip toe the bike just fine… not even that tall
lmao. aa vid on why not to get it and i want it more by the end of the video.
Haha in that case nothing should stop you! It is a awesome bike..
You shouldn't lose your warranty for servicing it, maintaining it elsewhere...once you start altering the bike maybe...I never go to a dealer, I've worked at a few dealers, there's always a 40% uplift on any business you do with them, always go private 👊🏼
This goes with any dealership for cars or bikes.. I've worked in a £40,000,000 BMW dealership, and seen better service in a backstreet garage. I've got mates who worked in a £100,000,000 mercedes building near me with a massive spinning Merc badge on the roof. Never be fooled by that, all that glamour is to sell bikes / cars, the service is often worse because those companies pay their staff peanuts.
Great video what about gas gas 700...
Would like to test ride one but imagine it’s very similar. Only has some minor differences the biggest being the rims. Hopefully can get my hands on one to make a video soon.
Number 5 I have to completely disagree on. I have a dorsoduro 750 my friend got the duke 690 and my other friend got an old yamaha 600 touring bike (no clue which one). Why should we not be able to ride together? I have the fastest bike, so what? Why can't you ride your 690 with a harley? I honestly don't understand the problem? You mention top speed but the 690 goes like 210 km/h or something. How fast are your group rides?
Yea I think I did not explain very well on that one. Ofc you can ride with anyone. What I meant is that it can be difficult to find the perfect fit. For example with the top speed I meant that touring bikes might do 160kph consistently on the highway because they have a windshield, whereas on the 690 you would probably not do that. If your friends mainly ride Sports bikes, the same kind of logic applies. It all comes down to how open minded your riding group is and whether people want to make compromises. In most cases I agree that the compromises are not too big and that most people don’t really care. I also think that this is how it should be. The point of the video was to nitpick and make people aware of possible limitations. Imo the bike tries to be a jack of all traits and that’s why I wanted to mention it.
3:40 plz don't tell anyone that it pricey, because it's not! if you lucky enough to get it for mspr - you probably get it almost for free _( not to mention your higher level of living etc. )_ someone has to pay for it $16-22k with $40-60k of year revenu
Quite thorough.
Double Thanks!
If changing the tire is too expensive for you maybe you shouldn't have a motorcycle. My shop only charges half an hour for a tire and pays us 0.8 of an hour just to give people a better deal. If you want to save money you can buy a tire from somewhere else if the shop is overcharging and you can remove the wheel and bring them the wheel and have them do the tire change and that is usually half the price
It’s more than worth it to pay up. That’s why I still own the bike and have not sold it. I am just sharing my experience for those who are on the fence and might not see this coming. Why so much hate, I have also made a video on the top 5 reasons to buy a 690. This is my personal opinion and I am just sharing it.
I was thinking about getting this bike but the lack luster gauge cluster makes it a no go
Hm I would test ride and I think you would forget about the gauge cluster. It’s an amazing bike despite its flaws.
new models have a better dash, with gear and rev indicator, btw.
Thanks for pointing this out! I did not know until recently
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Where did you get these mirrors?
In the description ;)
@@bklf202 oh sorry. i didn't notice the mods part. thanks a lot!
Height:
Am 173 centimeters, short guy, will it be an problem for me to ride?
I think you could be just fine with the lowering kit but might be fine just by changing the suspension settings. Best is to try it out at your dealer
The seat height is 890mm, not 850mm. It is tall, but light. Anyone with at least 31 inch inseam, should be ok.
This is a specific purpose bike not intended to use as a multi-purpose tool. It's made for short fun rides, nothing more nothing less. If you have other bikes, no intentions of touring, off roading, or hanging out with your Harley friends, this is a play bike like no other. If people don't understand this then they shouldn't even be looking at a super moto, period.
Some of these reasons are a bit precious. Pity the poor souls that can't handle a bike without pillow seats and a built in coffee holder for their soy lattes.
I'm 6'2" and have taken a 390 DUKE across the country with the stock seat.
SMC R is taller with a wider rear wheel so it can ONLY be more comfortable than the Duke over long distances. And you can always convert to Enduro.
Anyone buying a 701 or a 690 already know all of this. You don't buy a supermoto and expect to pay like a Honda 80.
Anyone want a cheap bike get a drz 400sm.
And nobody gets a supermoto for confort 🤣🤣🤣
The video is intended for people who don’t know this yet. I am sure there are people out there who are new to the world of sm. Especially those considering the 690 as their first bike.
dont shake your head so much
rest really good
How is that bike 9.5k brand new?! Here in belgium new is like 13k stock
That’s the list price but the dealerships always drop the price quite a bit and on top of that I bought this one (2020 model) when the 2021 was already out.. so it was a really good deal as well :)
Yeah, and the stupid thing is. I just bought MT 07 and i already wanna sell it cus i got in love with the 690 and 701. But i already did so many upgrades and i will be in such a big lose if i sell it now :(...
@@bklf202 my dealer wouldn't budge even a dollar. I paid 14K u.s. and I even paid cash no finance. But the SMC R is actually kind of rare here in the states. My dealer had no left overs and wasn't getting any more this year I got there only one
Mine was £9500 in 2019 I did get a grand off as part of a deal
@@22smcrrider96 man that's a steep price but yea if demand is high and supply is low.. well you can't really blame the dealer. Most important is that you got the damn bike! haha
changing the tires won't void your warranty.
Fair
Ok im sold im gonna get one
Let’s go!
What mirrors are they
Shinyo
What year is your bike?
2020
A bud of mine bought the 690 2016 in mint condition for $5k while I bought my SM610 2000 for $3k
those are both awesome deals! not bad..
@@bklf202 Actually sold mine off today. 3.5k. Looking for something diffrent. Maybe an adv bike
I honestly think that KTM are going in the wrong direction with the SMC, their best models were the earlier generations, the 2008 just looks like something you can throw about and not care too much, with these new bikes I’d be scared I was going to scratch it. It needs to be ridden like a supermoto and be dropped and slid, not paying £10k for something I can’t use properly. Doesn’t look offroady enough, should bring out a cheaper, stripped down version.
yea, personally I like the looks of the new ones a lot more but it is true that I do not feel like I can toss it around like some of their older bikes.. and all the electronics make it difficult to spot issues..
@@bklf202 they are nice bikes no doubt, maybe because I’m more of a fan boy of the older bikes, they’re just not supermoto enough for me. 2 different types would be good.
Hi, This modelo have a anti wheelie?
Yes but you can turn it off by turning off traction control
@@bklf202 today i have buy 2022 model. Um live um Portugal, the price 11.900 euros. Sorry my bad English
me with my yamaha wr 125x with a seat height of 920mm :DD
haha yea my old 125 exc also had 950mm. Much better imo :p
Seat Height 890mm
Changing the tire by yourself won’t kill your warranty?!
I don’t think it would no! But oil change yes.
Lol.. in Denmark it’s twice the price..
3 things that made me stay away from 690
1:price
2: reliability
3: KTM customer service
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This is one of the most reliable engines and transmissions on the market. It it’s placed across several platforms.
You should be able to wrench your own stuff.
Have fun on your KLR 650….
I bet you own a Honda as well… when you buy high end it’s cost a little more to operate.
You can’t buy a Ferrari and maintain it like a Toyota
1:50 you can lower the bike at suspensions ANY time - just let you know. Reason no.1. is NO reason.
Thanks for clarifying this. There is also a lowering kit to make it even lower. The video was just about its stock condition. Lowering suspension will only get you so far ofc.
1. I am 170cm and it’s fine.
2. It is expensive to buy but you can service the bike yourself in about 15 mins with basic tools. Don’t use the dealer for anything as they will rip you off.
3. Agreed, not comfortable but ok to ride for an hour or so at a time. Hopeless for long distance.
4. Weighs 145kg (dry) 450EXC 110kg (dry)
5. Yes, can be a problem if you want to ride in a group - personally I think group riding is a recipe for disaster. You are safer on your own.
Thanks! Nice thoughts. Helps more people like you.
There's a guy just walking a pony down the road, but... yeah we'll just not talk about that.
Should have bough tools instead of those flashy bits to work on the bike yourself. Paying $300 bucks for a oil change that would have cost you 40 bucks and 30 min.
I got the tools but would lose warranty if I would not do the oil change at KTM. The warranty has really paid off more so far unfortunately.
regrets buying a bike and crystals on youtube.....yea we can see that lil homie
I am not regretting anything. In fact, I love the bike and also made a video on the top 5 reasons to buy it. I’m just a dude sharing some experiences.
My butt don’t like KTM690! It’s top one! Pain as hell
haha totally agree
A dealership or manufacturer cannot void your warranty if you do your own work. That is a common misconception.
They have already done it with with me in Germany. Might depend on the country
@BKLF did you break something or cause damage during your own servicing? I'm in the US and I know that if you do the service correctly and have receipts of parts purchased, they cannot void your warranty.
1) 701 2) gasgas 700 3) 890smt...yeah 690 is in the middle and brings nothing special then "original KTM" .... Oh and now you can get also a Ducati....
Dont buy this because its expensive?
You want the best, you just pay for it or stick with lower quality..
I mean, you really can't complain about the dealer rates when these are basic services that you should be able to perform yourself. If people came to me wanting these same services, I'd charge the same rates, -20%. only because i don't have the large overhead. Dealer rates are dealer rates. I mean, c'mon. You complain about dealer rates, but then you buy a bunch of trinkets that provide zero performance gains. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude. It's the Chimay talking.
Dude, c´mon. This is Germany, not the USA. You won´t loose you warranty, if you swtich tyres by yourself. If you want to do YT content, please check the facts and don´t spread misinfomration around younger viewers. And yes, it is your dealer with your service and the ripoff.
You don´t have to buy seat concepts/KTM seats, you can just go to a german "Sattler" and let them adjust the seat to your liking. Plus, comfort is a personal preference. I think your perspective is just to negative and totally subjective.
I am just sharing what I was told. Of course I would still do my own tire change regardless but why can I not share the experience?? So people don’t get offended that certified dealers from their favorite brand are making these claims? It’s not misinformation it’s a real life experience and anyone watching should be old enough to make their own judgement on it.
Do not buy new ones if you love old smc models.
I have just bought ktm smc 2023 is absolutely worst bike i have ever had.
Probably cause by catalizer and euro 5 regulation... but bike really is not a supermoto. Vote for me is 0