records don't agree. yeah, I"m embarrased to have realized in the last couple weeks of a basic mistake I made. I was told I was born in town X at St Luke's Hospital. Well, it turns out that the hospital's name is ST Luke's Hospital X, but it's actually in town Y. So when I was married 25 years ago and answered where I was born, I wasn't required to show proof and I said town X. In the last couple of weeks, I had to show my birth certificate for something and noticed it said town Y, so I was confused and looked into it learning that the hospital is in town Y. I recently ordered birth certificates for direct ancestors and learned that my grandfather was also born in town Y, but census, marriage certificate, death certificate, and obituary all say town X; I wonder if he was born in that hospital too. Mistakes happen, but I'm a little embarrased to realize that I made this mistake and put this error in my marriage license; we think of people knowing info about themselves and being a trusted source for it, but of course when it comes to our birth, we only know what we're told.
For source citation I hilite and copy it from the web page then right-click on the document image after saving it to my computer. Choose Property tab then paste into Comment section. This is called “metadata” available for jpg images. It stays with the image.
I have surname folders and then subfolders for counties. For example "Williams" and then a subfolder "TX, Collin county". This is where you put all the deed and county court docs and sometimes tax rolls. My surname folder also has a subfolder called "newspapers" and this is where obituaries and notices go. The actual deed or tax records I change the name to like "1805 KY, Clark - Tax Roll Book A (55) - Walter Burris". The 55 refers to the frame number used on the LDS website. For deeds I add both the frame number and actuall page number on the document. You want to keep the year in the name so that it all sorts chronologically.
Connie, respectfully, I don’t think you answered his question: How do you attach source information to a document? As a fairly experienced researcher, I go through all the research steps and keep research notes. But I would love to figure out a way to digitally add a citation to each document downloaded, so that when I open it, I can immediately see exactly where it came from. I usually add some of that in the file name: Bath Co., KY Deed Book C-pg 100. However, I would like to add a full citation, so I don’t have to rewrite it every time when referenced in research notes for multiple ancestors or when writing proof arguments or when corresponding with fellow researchers. I include the citation in my research notes, but it would be nice not to have to dig through the notes to find one citation. I hope I’m making sense. There has to be a way…
I typically add the source citation to the document/image metadata. In my Research Notes, if I reference that document as the source, then in the Source Citation, I'll add a link to its location (in most cases, on my hard drive but it could also be linked to external sources).
This is also a problem with photos when you have, say, a large family group and want to identify all of them but the caption space does not have sufficient room for all of the names. This is also a problem (for me, anyway) with an Excel spreadsheet when I want to put comments that pertain to an entry or multiple entries and there is nowhere to put the comments.
@@debbeb4499 for photos, you can insert a copy on a Word document, then add your information, save it and name the document similarly to the actual photo so they will stay together in a folder
I did one on one with Connie for about a year. I can tell the tips she gives really work. Do I do them exactly the way she teaches no. What learned from has help develope my own still that works. This was a good reminder video of what I was skipping. Now I'm rethinking some things. Thank you.
Connie, I noticed at minutes 12:42 in this video, you have three separate documents for Christopher Madsen. They are the Research Notes, Research Log and Source Citations. Why all three documents? Aren't the citations in the research notes and isn't the research notes like a research log? What am I missing?
Typically I only do the Research Notes with source citations and details about where to research next (kind of a 3-fer one doc). I was doing some very deep dive research on that ancestor and was putting all the citations in one place for easy capture. Just ignore that, it was just a reference note for myself. Personally I don't like research logs. I don't use them unless I'm going to SLC or some archive to do research on location. For the at home genealogist, I think they are a waste of time.
Thank you for the explanation. I have been using your research note template and thought I had misunderstood something. I struggled with research logs and discovered the notes filled that gap nicely for me.
I take screenshots of newspaper articles, and make sure I keep the name of the paper and date. If I didn't get it through Ancestry, I get the link, too. In a binder of things I printed, I have a section for multiple families- two people, one on my mom's side, and one on dad's- seem to have been involved in the same groups, their names keep popping up in the same news article.
I feel like you did not exactly answer this person's question. As I heard the question, I believe that part of the problem is that once he renames and saves the document, the source is no longer attached. If you click print on Ancestry, it asks you if you want to include the source information. You click yes, and you generate a page attached to the image that has the source information. Also, attaching the document to your tree will give you the source information and be forever attached to that document. I download and print and attach. Can't be too careful, right?
Great idea! I don't usually print things out, though--I used to, but ended up with stacks of papers that never got filed away. BUT I print to PDF and save the PDF file to my surname folders. Image AND source information all in one file! LOVE IT!
At 10:10 you say to transcribe documents into Research Notes but later at 11:10 you say that when you transcribe something it is a Stand-Alone document. I'm not sure whether the transcribed document goes in the Research Notes or not.
Sorry for the confusion... the transcription is a stand alone document. You want to abstract the information from the transcription into your research notes. See this video about how to transcribe and abstract documents "How to Transcribe and Abstract a Document" czcams.com/video/_tJJuVhOy1k/video.html
When making file folders (#14) for Ancestors do I include the spouse and children's info in the folder with the wife/mother or do separate file folders for them? If so how do I list them?
is there any easier way for?... So I want to make a master excel sheet with all the people on my tree and just see if I have at least a record or a mention in a record for all of the people on my tree? Is there any easier way to do this than going to all the listed of all people on my tree and Comand all all of them? is there a program that I can use that can do this for me that I can use that'll tell me if I have at least one record for them?
I'm not clear on what you're trying to achieve. Many have asked for a print of all ancestors in list format. You could use Family Tree Maker to filter, print, export and such, but I would not sync it with Ancestry, but instead download a Gedcom file then open it in FTM. Then you could print to a PDF a "persons report" (starting with yourself). Once you capture that report, you could search it for any of the details you're looking for. Actually, you can search within FTM for the details without the need to export a persons report.
Are you a channel member on CZcams? If you are, this is not the account you are subscribed to. You might have two different accounts. This happened to me. I had two accounts and didn't know it. You can contact me through my website and we can figure it out. genealogytv.org/contact/
So, here is a question? What do you do when someone has taken all your info from a searchable but private tree and made it theirs and you have proven that you are NOT related? What do you do when this person is going as far as posting everyones Social Security in their tree?. Then they block you so you are not able to contact this person. I have had to make my tree completely unsearchable from this moron but he has taken info from others I have shared info with. Ancestry needs to make some serious security changes to their web site.
Thanks!
Wow... thanks for the Super Thanks! I do appreciate it.
records don't agree. yeah, I"m embarrased to have realized in the last couple weeks of a basic mistake I made. I was told I was born in town X at St Luke's Hospital. Well, it turns out that the hospital's name is ST Luke's Hospital X, but it's actually in town Y. So when I was married 25 years ago and answered where I was born, I wasn't required to show proof and I said town X. In the last couple of weeks, I had to show my birth certificate for something and noticed it said town Y, so I was confused and looked into it learning that the hospital is in town Y. I recently ordered birth certificates for direct ancestors and learned that my grandfather was also born in town Y, but census, marriage certificate, death certificate, and obituary all say town X; I wonder if he was born in that hospital too. Mistakes happen, but I'm a little embarrased to realize that I made this mistake and put this error in my marriage license; we think of people knowing info about themselves and being a trusted source for it, but of course when it comes to our birth, we only know what we're told.
Look into border changes. Cound the towns have had different borders at one time? Just a thought.
For source citation I hilite and copy it from the web page then right-click on the document image after saving it to my computer. Choose Property tab then paste into Comment section. This is called “metadata” available for jpg images. It stays with the image.
This is great! Thank you!
That is brilliant; thank you for sharing such a great tip/idea!
That is a good idea.
Great idea.
I have surname folders and then subfolders for counties. For example "Williams" and then a subfolder "TX, Collin county". This is where you put all the deed and county court docs and sometimes tax rolls. My surname folder also has a subfolder called "newspapers" and this is where obituaries and notices go. The actual deed or tax records I change the name to like "1805 KY, Clark - Tax Roll Book A (55) - Walter Burris". The 55 refers to the frame number used on the LDS website. For deeds I add both the frame number and actuall page number on the document. You want to keep the year in the name so that it all sorts chronologically.
Connie, respectfully, I don’t think you answered his question: How do you attach source information to a document?
As a fairly experienced researcher, I go through all the research steps and keep research notes. But I would love to figure out a way to digitally add a citation to each document downloaded, so that when I open it, I can immediately see exactly where it came from. I usually add some of that in the file name: Bath Co., KY Deed Book C-pg 100. However, I would like to add a full citation, so I don’t have to rewrite it every time when referenced in research notes for multiple ancestors or when writing proof arguments or when corresponding with fellow researchers. I include the citation in my research notes, but it would be nice not to have to dig through the notes to find one citation. I hope I’m making sense.
There has to be a way…
Fair. Through several emails with this person, I was under the impression that I did answer it, but perhaps not. Good observation on your part.
Thanks for your continued support Liz. I do appreciate it and the feedback.
I typically add the source citation to the document/image metadata. In my Research Notes, if I reference that document as the source, then in the Source Citation, I'll add a link to its location (in most cases, on my hard drive but it could also be linked to external sources).
This is also a problem with photos when you have, say, a large family group and want to identify all of them but the caption space does not have sufficient room for all of the names. This is also a problem (for me, anyway) with an Excel spreadsheet when I want to put comments that pertain to an entry or multiple entries and there is nowhere to put the comments.
@@debbeb4499 for photos, you can insert a copy on a Word document, then add your information, save it and name the document similarly to the actual photo so they will stay together in a folder
I did one on one with Connie for about a year. I can tell the tips she gives really work. Do I do them exactly the way she teaches no. What learned from has help develope my own still that works. This was a good reminder video of what I was skipping. Now I'm rethinking some things. Thank you.
Ah thanks Matt. You're very kind.
Backup, backup, backup! Add this as a step. I keep paper copies often, just in case.
Connie, I noticed at minutes 12:42 in this video, you have three separate documents for Christopher Madsen. They are the Research Notes, Research Log and Source Citations. Why all three documents? Aren't the citations in the research notes and isn't the research notes like a research log? What am I missing?
Typically I only do the Research Notes with source citations and details about where to research next (kind of a 3-fer one doc). I was doing some very deep dive research on that ancestor and was putting all the citations in one place for easy capture. Just ignore that, it was just a reference note for myself. Personally I don't like research logs. I don't use them unless I'm going to SLC or some archive to do research on location. For the at home genealogist, I think they are a waste of time.
Thank you for the explanation. I have been using your research note template and thought I had misunderstood something. I struggled with research logs and discovered the notes filled that gap nicely for me.
I use Ancestry UK and for extra research I use Find My Past and Scotlands People.
I take screenshots of newspaper articles, and make sure I keep the name of the paper and date. If I didn't get it through Ancestry, I get the link, too.
In a binder of things I printed, I have a section for multiple families- two people, one on my mom's side, and one on dad's- seem to have been involved in the same groups, their names keep popping up in the same news article.
I never duplicate documents. Link to it, so you don't have to make amendments to more than one document.
I feel like you did not exactly answer this person's question. As I heard the question, I believe that part of the problem is that once he renames and saves the document, the source is no longer attached. If you click print on Ancestry, it asks you if you want to include the source information. You click yes, and you generate a page attached to the image that has the source information. Also, attaching the document to your tree will give you the source information and be forever attached to that document. I download and print and attach. Can't be too careful, right?
Good point. I had replied to the email and he seemed satisfied, but perhaps I misunderstood the question. Good tips. Thanks for sharing.
Great idea! I don't usually print things out, though--I used to, but ended up with stacks of papers that never got filed away. BUT I print to PDF and save the PDF file to my surname folders. Image AND source information all in one file! LOVE IT!
At 10:10 you say to transcribe documents into Research Notes but later at 11:10 you say that when you transcribe something it is a Stand-Alone document. I'm not sure whether the transcribed document goes in the Research Notes or not.
Sorry for the confusion... the transcription is a stand alone document. You want to abstract the information from the transcription into your research notes. See this video about how to transcribe and abstract documents "How to Transcribe and Abstract a Document" czcams.com/video/_tJJuVhOy1k/video.html
When making file folders (#14) for Ancestors do I include the spouse and children's info in the folder with the wife/mother or do separate file folders for them? If so how do I list them?
I use a separate file DER for each person in most cases.
Wow, I'm screwed
What if you don't have alot of information bec you grew up in foster care and your separate from your family.
I would definitely take a DNA test at Ancestry.
is there any easier way for?... So I want to make a master excel sheet with all the people on my tree and just see if I have at least a record or a mention in a record for all of the people on my tree? Is there any easier way to do this than going to all the listed of all people on my tree and Comand all all of them? is there a program that I can use that can do this for me that I can use that'll tell me if I have at least one record for them?
I'm not clear on what you're trying to achieve. Many have asked for a print of all ancestors in list format. You could use Family Tree Maker to filter, print, export and such, but I would not sync it with Ancestry, but instead download a Gedcom file then open it in FTM. Then you could print to a PDF a "persons report" (starting with yourself). Once you capture that report, you could search it for any of the details you're looking for. Actually, you can search within FTM for the details without the need to export a persons report.
@@GenealogyTV Hello, Thanks I don't have FTM ill have to look into it!! thanks for the tip. I wish I could send you a video of what I mean bummer.
Where can I find asset on ancestry
We pay every month but can not get handouts.
Are you a channel member on CZcams? If you are, this is not the account you are subscribed to. You might have two different accounts. This happened to me. I had two accounts and didn't know it. You can contact me through my website and we can figure it out. genealogytv.org/contact/
So, here is a question? What do you do when someone has taken all your info from a searchable but private tree and made it theirs and you have proven that you are NOT related? What do you do when this person is going as far as posting everyones Social Security in their tree?. Then they block you so you are not able to contact this person. I have had to make my tree completely unsearchable from this moron but he has taken info from others I have shared info with. Ancestry needs to make some serious security changes to their web site.
I have the same issue. I talked with Ancestry years ago. Nothing has changed. BUMMER !!!!