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Tricking your stick with Nate and Trav 6 of 6 Weapon Optics
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2016
- Travis shows some of the options you have in optics and how some of the options can help you decide on your setup. This video is the six of six videos in the series sharing how to set up your carbine. For more info on training or to check out some gear visit www.haleystrat...
wtf. I thought multicam gave me a +10 accuracy +5 resistance in a gunfight. Another great video. Would love more series like this.
DankMemes no dude its like +4 dexterity at best
I have -66 charisma, which means anyone I come across develops violent tendencies towards me, even a pacifist who is hemophobic would instinctively try to run me over with their hybrid cars. War never changes in California...
Best comment thread on CZcams. +1000XP
it does, but if you forget the multicam socks then your screwed!!
Travis Haley's personal armory must be what heaven looks like.
Underrated Critic I look at this and think “ I don’t need to eat„
New favorite channel no bs, no bro science, no arm chair soldier lies, and no back in my day garbage. Sharing this channel with all my gun brothers.
I started out with irons and eventually picked up a friend's 3x Nikon for about $20.
It served me well for a few years and got me out to 750yds. And then I got a 5X Primary Arms Prism. It was great. A bit heavy but the ACSS reticle was awesome.
Then I tried a red dot. And I'm damn near about to ditch scopes for an EOTech which serves almost just as well. And then run a QD magnifier should I really need it. Great info. I'm good with irons, but a red dot is just so much damn faster and has a smaller aiming point compared to irons. Great info. FWIW, my favorite zero is 36yds.
Sitting at work for 12hours watching all your videos, good stuff mate
Top tier video. I will be looking for your next class in a relative close proximity and be signing up. I’ve heard nothing but great things about you and this video just verified everything.
Love these videos. Glad you took the time to put these together. Hoorah, God speed brother.
Learn more in these 6 parts videos then from any SOI instructor, CMC or whatever firing table. Would love a videos on setting up issued rifles.
Great video! Loved the in depth explanations of the strengths and weaknesses of the various sight options, well done sir!
really liked the video series, Travis, Rah!
idea for another series: how about ways to set up your gear? battle belts, plate carriers, active shooter gear, chest rigs, etc
the occluded site idea with fixed power optics was new to me. very cool!
GREAT STUFF TRAVIS!!!!! Awesome Video Series and PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING, Sir!?
Hayley has a great old panteo video showing where bullets hit out to distance with different zeroes if zeroed correctly. check it out.
I haven't seen that video in a couple years
Only video I have ever seen something like that done.... there a AK video that does the same
Helped me decide my zero. Loved that video.
You can do the same with a B27 target and a ballistics app (or your own testing). Its helpful to know if you choose the 25m, 50m, or 100m zero, what your hold overs/unders look like. For the 25/50 zeros, where the round crosses LoS twice, you need to do alot of practicing so you dont have to think hold over vs hold under depending on the range. 100m zero only crosses once, but by the time youre approaching the outer envelope of 556 effectiveness, youve dropped off the bottom of the torso with a high center chest POA. For me, a 50m zero combines the best of both, with all ranges from the muzzle to 500m hitting in the torso/pelvis with a high center chest POA. The 25m zero does even better, keeping the farthest rounds in the abdomen, instead of the pelvis, but has a larger gap of hold unders 25m - ~300m
I am the guy who mounted a desk lamp on AR, now I am going to mount an astronomical telescope on AR. Stay sharp, be safe. I am Galileo Galilei, I love universe, universe loves me.
D Joyce no it doesn't
I have a the Dynamic Folding Shovel on mine...just in case I need to dig a fox hole or plant a tree
Really enjoyed this series. Great Job HS! Some things I did naturally but some others could use a new perspective to see if it works for me. We are not all the same. I'm a sponge, only what needs to stay will but I dump the mess.
Ciliary muscles actually relax for distance focus, and contract for close focus. Great video as always tho, much appreciated!
I’m trying to move to Arizona right now I’ve wanted to for years now. Hopefully I can get this job down there then I can take one of Travis’s courses 😬
Semper fi Haley.. glad to see Marines making vids, I'm tired of all the navy seal and army ranger stuff. Not that I don't appreciate what they do. I needed some more variety.
Travis, I have been doing shooting stuff for a decent amount of time and I just got wind of your system in the past year or so. Needless to say my thought process, system choices and capabilities have grown exponentially in every aspect of my fundamentals. You have a really scientific theory for the shooting skills and since I have adapted your way of thought my skills and scores have been noticed by my peers. Please keep up the wonderful work and I am wondering if you would be willing to travel to teach a mixed carbine/pistol class. I have turned my superiors on to your methodology and they have taken quite the interest in what you have to offer seeing my vast improvement and asking me about what changes I made to garnish such improvements. PM me if you have interest.
Anyone else noticed Travis making a face when talking about people not running a backup sight on their rifles "but that is their personal choice"
Ruben his face was almost salty, but he looked more like he thought they were idiots
Great series of videos, Keep putting them out there!
Great video as always Travis. Keep up the good work. Best regards from Norway.
Excellent and thorough summary. Thanks!
I would love to see you do a glock 26/keltec sub2000 run and gun video, a lot of people have these two guns for concealed carry and home defense..........
Great series and very coherent line of thought.
I'm generally not a fan of the concept of BUIS *without* a quick-detach mount on the optic itself. Most red dots/illuminated scopes are perfectly reliable nowadays, so the likelihood of the dot or batteries failing is low. However, obstructions to the sight like mud, blood, fog, etc are nearly always a possiblity and will make the BUIS useless. If the sight fails during a fight and is obscured, you need to be able to quickly remove it, stuff it in a pouch/pocket, and then use the BUIS, which ideally have some kind of tritium insert or other illumination function
This is truly excellent info, thank you!
Hey Travis would you do a video on your m110 setup? No one has a good video on the short 308 platforms, and their potential at both close and long range. Thanks!
I think a elcan with a 1-4× switch would be a good compromise or even a acog with a rmr on top
Travis you should put up the link to your old combat effective zero video
czcams.com/video/RbRlX_du7kM/video.html
I think he's talking about the video you made with different zeros where you had all the targets in a row talking about combat effective zeros. It was a very good video
love all the info you put out there. thank you.
Any videos coming on home defense weapon setups?
Maur Ice America is fascinated about having a tactical setup as if we are all destined to work as contractors in Iraq. Home defense is the most realistic scenario most of us will have to face
9 mil chambered carbines and suppressors, no sling, and TRAIN
Maur Ice think of what’s likely to happen and what you’re likely to need. Bam. Done.
Here’s a short list: red dot optic (you ain’t shooting anyone past 50 yards).
BUIS: that red dot can break
White light (its gonna go down at night. I’ll guarantee it).
Sling.
There. You’re done. Anything else is personal preference.
@@ryansnow2116 Eh not really... Go to channels like YankeeMarshall and you will find a bunch of guys that love lever guns and revolvers. If you are staying inside the bubble of the ultra prepared civilian then yes you will find people who kit themselves out to the max. I personally subscribe to the opinion that if law enforcement thinks it's useful for the defense of their own lives it's probably halfway decent.
Wow what info overload! Just wonderin what you think of the EOtechs since i saw you didn't have any on display?? All the rifles i have built i have put EOtechs on them for familiarity reasons. Thanks for the wealth of knowledge you share with guys just like me. I know their are a lot of smart well experienced guys on your channel and i am just glad to be learning from all of you! Thanks again
Thank you gentlemen for the great videos
Good tips
Tear away lens caps..Duck tape does it again!
Great info, just purchased the inforce WMLx. Next on the list is the d3crx :D
I personally think the best micro red dot on the market today is the trijicon mro. It has the biggest objective lens (25mm) of any micro RD that I know of, capless turrets for the windage and elevation, the brightness dial on the top of the optic with an off setting in between each brightness setting. 2 night vision settings, water proof up to 100 feet, infinite eye relief and the same 5 year battery life as the T-2...The best part is its $250- $300 less than the T-2
MikeLadies Definitely not "perfect". I can't really say I found cons with it, but the few few cons I have heard others talk about is the slight magnification the MRO has, and that it's not a true 1x optic. But honestly the magnification to me is minut and hasn't bothered me. The other thing I've heard alot is the slight blue tint, but honestly I haven't noticed that at all either... maybe my eyes just don't pick up on it? This is just my opinion, I bet if you polled 100 people that have both optics probably 60 of them would say they'd rather have the aimpoint
For casual use, every optic is great, get a Bushnell and you will be happy.
Kenzaki1010 Yes, if an optic is only for occasional range trips and or home defense I would also say a Holosun RD is perfect. I think they are great for the money
Great video!
How do you feel about piggybacking a small dot like an RMR on top of a fixed power scope?
It's a good solution, but think about the loss of a nice cheek weld when looking through the red dot sight and determine if it's worth it.
The availability of 45 degree mounts for red dots renders it obsolete in my opinion. When looking through that piggybacked red dot, you have no cheek weld. In my experience that causes lack of consistency and speed. I feel like it works best if you're primarily using that setup for the magnified optic at longer ranges.
I honestly am not sure how much I can commit to it. I have astigmatism which is why I went with a prism scope to begin with. I would be willing to spend the money to try an RMR as long as the concept isnt unsound
Try it with a 45 degree mount. If it doesn't work you can always sell it or trade for almost as much as you paid.
But personally I didn't like the RMR after I tried it. Go to a gun store and look through one compared to an Aimpoint T1 or some other micro dot and see what you like.
Great series guys
Great series. Godspeed brother.
Wow, I didn't know what I didn't know.
I barely know what i used to know ...
Lots of words without a lot of practical data on the zero. Vigilance Elite has the best combat zero video. It's great to suggest you can theoretically hit a target with a red dot "if you know the holdovers," but that is a hell of a lot easier said than done. The Army does train a 300m battle zero and does not explain it. You take the 25m zero target, zero, then go out to the qualification range, typically in the same afternoon. Combat zeroes work and they are practical. However, I would never expect to be able to reliably or consistently extend a combat zero on a red dot zeroed even to 300m center hold out to 400 or 450 meters. That type of hold, by merit of not having a BDC or mil dot reticle pattern can only be developed through experience and muscle/visual memory, which most people, including most military personnel, do not have the luxury of. For one thing, not all bases (National Guard, Reserves, smaller bases, deployed personnel) have ranges out to even 300 meters or beyond, and most people in a suburban or urban environment also do not have the ability to utilize a practical outdoor range.
for in case of red dot off you can allways draw a point with marker on the optic on place of red dot
1 a week like you said. Good stuff. Thank you sir.
Great six part series HSP. Do you know when that new BCM SOPMOD stock will be released from BCM?? Thanks
Awesome series!
thank you , great videos lots of knowledge
Never thought of that. I’d bet you could be pretty accurate.
I know competition is different than cqb. However, I had a dot shut off on me after my second shot on a stage. And I still finished the stage with good hits and finished second on the stage overall. So close range back up sights and kind of...ehh
Very good series!
Very thorough. Thanks.
Heck of a video
The last comments about tacti cool made the video 10 times better thanks 😂
great video!
Great tips and all those rifles look awesome. Off topic though. What kind of backpacks are those? Top left bag looks OD green.
I have my MRO in the middle as well for the reason of peripheral view and balance, but there are other MRO users that claim having it closer to your eye ghosts the body of the optic, helps get the dot into view faster, mitigates dot sway and the distortion around the MRO's lens due to it's 1.05x magnification. I personally didn't find it any faster, more stable, or any less lens distortion than mounting it in the center, but what is your take on this argument?
Excellent video
I'm setting up my Car Bean right now.
Gr8WhtMomba Carbine*
I’m bummed it took me this long to come across this video. Damn you CZcams algorithm 🤣🤣
Great information as always
Great info as usual.
Anyone have any idea on the 300m OIS he's talking about in AZ what department was that?
AnyWeaponDefense we will find it and post it up
loved this series...keep them comin. im learning a lot
1:52 What is that flashlight/mount combo? I don't recognize that HSP mount. The light has to be a Surefire of some kind with that SR07 switch.
I got to say it. I would love to see an x-ray image of this mans cheek bones. I would bet they are the are formed in the exact shape for the perfect cheek weld after all these years of fast ass precise shooting. Any plastic surgeons in the house? Could be a big money maker!
if you only had the funds or the resources to have one rifle how would you set it up for it to be as useful in as many different types of scenarios as possible for example home defense and sort of you know civil unrest or rioting situation etcetera
Ray Creevy fixed front, flip up rear, EXPS3
Same at how you will set it up normally. Just switch red dot out for a variable power optic.
Best way to be setup for the greatest amount of scenarios/situations would be to have an AR with a couple different upper receivers that are setup best for specific scenarios & swap them out as needed, or on a single receiver, you run a variable power scope with a red dot mounted on a 45, just like he explained in this video.
Fixed front sight post, put a red dot and 3x magnifier.
Very good information
Can’t decide if I should go with a red dot and back up iron sights or that lpvo red dot combo
Great info
Can’t decide if u should go with a red dot or that lpvo red dot combo
What stock is that on the acog gun? Looks like a bcm but with a sopmod cheekpiece. I heard they were working on something like that. is it a pre production test piece?
David Weekley New stock it will be released soon from BCM
Great video! How about an acog with the trijicon night sights on it? Does that work pretty well?
What iron sights do you recommend when running something like an MRO with front sight up as stated in the video? I currently use Troy HK style flip ups and they work fine I just didn't know if there was something new and better out I was unaware of. This is on a BCM 14.5 with KMR 13 rail. Thank you and keep up the great work!
Your Troys should be totally fine. The ones that Travis Haley uses in his videos are KAC (knights armament) if you care. I agree with Travis that lower 1/3 cowitness is good with a tube red dot like MRO/Aimpoint/etc. --- so if you do run an MRO get the mount that will 1/3 cowitness or grab some offset irons. Just my $0.02
Does anyone see a point of running a 4x ACOG and canted irons? That's what Ive been running but he only suggested that concept for his higher magnification option (6x-8x). Im curious why he never mentioned alternative optics for the straight 4x and under(I realize he brought up bindon aiming but for relative cqb 4x is still too much imo). But great video! keep them up!
yes we do advise canted irons or a offset reddot to an ACOG
What's with the ctr on that rifle Travis?! thought that was a no-no in your shop. haha.
Any simple tips for eye dominance issues for red dots and or magnified optics? Im left eye and have been shooting right handed my entire life.
22BStan learn to shoot with both eyes open
when shooting with red dots you should have both eyes open. it's easy, get used to it
Do what Larry Vicker do. He is right handed and left eye dominant, thus he shoot pistol right handed and shoot rifle left handed.
I do all this, I guess I was looking for something else. Thx tho
I shot a Glock and an AR with no sights and I was surprised what I was able to hit. I was shooting slow though.
Does anyone recognize that IR ( I believe it's IR) at 3:10. Love the videos keep them up!
Chris B that is a DBAL 2
I still think those Magpul vids were cool
I thought he was going to say the 1-n LPVO is the most adaptive sighting system, which is where I'm at.
Anyone know what he's got mounted as the variable optic example? Would appreciate more info on that thanks!
The KAC SR-25 had a Leupold Mk VI 1-6x with KAC offset iron sights and the AR15 with the multicam stock and rail had a Vortex Razor HD Get II 1-6x with an AImpoint T1 offset. Hope this helps
Any video on cans coming?
gsx1138 yes eventually
When I use a red dot, I don't see "a" dot, but more like a raspberry. Might be a slight astigmatism in my right eye. Have you guys seen this before?
Cybrok yep. I have the same issue
Yes
Awesome vid
I will always run back-up irons regardless..Every rifle i own is equipped with the MRO or the T2...Why not have the extra insurance....I rather have it and not need it then need it at not have it....Over seas ive seen alot of guys that were contractor's run just aimpoints or Eotech's...In my humble opinion that is absurd and just silly...The Acog i humped was a rugged piece of gear but theres no way im free balling it with just an optic
Instead of duct tape on the ACOG, maybe run just a front scope cap upside down, that way you can pop the cap back on instead of loosing your tape?
Justin Lee that's what we said at first but if you don't have a Cap you use duct taping
Lower 1/3 co-witness!!!!!!!
Travis, what kind of offset buis are you running on the M110?
Travis what do you think of the Scalar works mount vs the throw lever type?
ShotOver awesome that's all we run now. Holds true, solid, lightest on the market and comes off easier than throw lever without all the bulk
HaleyStrategic thanks for the reply. I'm setting up my Seekins 300blk SBR with one I already have when my upper gets here and I'm also going to put one on my SIG MPX SBR 9mm I just picked up yesterday. Thanks again! SF.
Any thoughts on the acss reticle system?
great system
Thanks for the reply, I loved this series of videos please keep em coming, I love learning from the Jedi!
is that the new bravo company stock *heavy breathing*
Cool shirt! Where do I get it?
Great video Travis, I have a question or maybe a monkey wrench for you. I have a minor astigmatism and I've been looking at the MRO with absolute co-witness. What do you feel about that and if you have any idea whats the best systems for people like myself. #noobshooters
Check out his video where he does an initial impression video on the MRO, he address the astigmatism issue briefly.
Manny Macfly for quick reference, the Mro is very high quality. Wide field of view in a very small compact package. Very durable, very reliable. The astigmatism isn't going to affect the Mro any different than it's going to affect any other illuminated dot sight. It just makes the dot itself slightly less crisp. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pull the trigger on an Mro with astigmatism or otherwise.
1sbratton I checked that out, wish he would go into it deeper, I would if I had the access to the Red Dots :(
Run a fixed front sight
anyone recognize the backup irons? they look nice and compact.
Z7MATT possibly Knights Armament
yep you're right, KAC
Z7MATT
A little "*cough *cough Magpul *cough"?
Lol
at how many yards should i sight in my red dot
Can you explain what the cord on the bipod is for?
Quick release for the bipod.
What is your opinion on EoTech? I am hearing all kinds of negativity towards their product.
Only issue is with older models (512, etc.) when exposed to extreme temperature shifts the zero would move. If you purchase any of the versions they sell in recent years (EXPS, XPS, etc.) you should be gtg in any situation. But depending on budget and your uses-- you may not need a battle-proven red dot like Aimpoint/Eotech/Trijicon/etc. and could get by with Holosun/PrimaryArms/Burris/etc. if you don't have those needs
I am asking because I have one already and haven't had any issues that I have noticed but it all sounds like doom and gloom.
POI shift at "extrem" Temp.
I'm sure yours is fine if it's one of the newer models. Don't buy into the doom and gloom -- it's like just a narrative that people push. Not unlike the liberal media... but I digress
Do you guys like the D-Evo concept?
Henry Reed I personally am conflicted about it. I think it's a great, innovative design. Simple and straight toward. But it's the first of its kind. It's not always a good thing to buy the newest thing, especially when it's never been done. That leave you acting as a test dummy. I don't want to be a lab rat. I want to know that my equipment is going to work and be able to withstand what I throw at it before I buy it. There's no testimony to its durability, ruggedness, or reliability. It's hard to shell out that much cash for s sighting system without any sort of track record. Just my thoughts