SMLE MkIII: The Iconic Smelly of World War One

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    In 1907, the British adopted the final major pattern in the evolution of the Short, Magazine, Lee Enfield. Designated the ShtLE MkIII (Short Lee Enfield) at the time, it would be retroactively renamed Rifle No1 MkIII in the 1920s. This new design was simpler and more durable than its predecessors while actually improving the practical accuracy of the rifle. The rear sight protector wings were substantially strengthened, the front sight became a square post, the front sight protectors were opened up to allow more light in, and the rear sight windage adjustment was simplified - while retailing 1 MOA adjustment clicks and 25m elevation adjustments. A new bayonet was also adopted in 1907 for the MkIII. The previous 1903 pattern bayonet was deemed too short, and the British essentially copied the Japanese Type 30 Arisaka bayonet as its new Pattern 1907 - hooked quillion and all.
    The example we are looking at in today's video is a fantastic specimen, as it was sold out of service to an Australian reservist in 1912 having not received any post-production modifications or updates. It is still sighted for the early MkVI round-nose ammunition, for example, and its bayonet retains the hooked quillion. The rifle's owner died prior to World War One, and the gun remained stored away and forgotten through both World Wars, where virtually all existing service rifles were taken back into service and updated. Only in the 1960s was this one found, making it a pristine collector's example to show how the MkIII was originally produced.
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Komentáře • 937

  • @TheBuccaneer1975
    @TheBuccaneer1975 Před 3 lety +1700

    From this we can establish that Aussies only vacuum under their bed every 45 years.

    • @ArifRWinandar
      @ArifRWinandar Před 3 lety +172

      Considering under the bed is the domain of spiders and snakes and scorpions, you would think they would want to clean it more often.

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 Před 3 lety +71

      @@ArifRWinandar Or like NEVER!!!!! If they are TOO afraid.

    • @aftp4i94
      @aftp4i94 Před 3 lety +178

      @@ArifRWinandar As an Aussie I can say that sticking your hand in dimly lit places under things is just asking for a screaming painful death.

    • @enemysub9057
      @enemysub9057 Před 3 lety +134

      Not only are there spiders under the bed but they tend to be quite well armed

    • @jackmatthews939
      @jackmatthews939 Před 3 lety +21

      Waiting on the Vacuum Cleaner to be invented...

  • @burtuppercut
    @burtuppercut Před 3 lety +828

    "before they all got slaughtered by artillery" gallows humour at it's best.

    • @jp7078
      @jp7078 Před 3 lety +64

      That's the short introduction to modern warfare for rifle enthusiasts.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 Před 3 lety +51

      Unfortunately it's true... most of the very best soldiers on all sides died in the first months of the war.

    • @blakexu4943
      @blakexu4943 Před 3 lety +10

      I mean its really more of a cavalcade of shells that did them in. Using slaughter is just so unrefined.

    • @comradeurod9805
      @comradeurod9805 Před 3 lety +25

      @@blakexu4943 but thats what happened. I associate getting shredded by shrapnell as slaughtered

    • @blakexu4943
      @blakexu4943 Před 3 lety +3

      @@comradeurod9805 its a lot less personal when it comes to artillery i guess. Of course that's the gallows humor talking.

  • @Scott079
    @Scott079 Před 3 lety +775

    The old forgotten under the bed excuse, precursor to I lost them in a boating accident

    • @AndrewDeme
      @AndrewDeme Před 3 lety +58

      Nah us Aussies weren't that paranoid and it probably just sat on top of the wardrobe gathering dust. When I was a primary school kid, my guns were just leaning up against back of the wardrobe, beside where my pants were hung up. Nowadays life is different because idiots with guns kill people but back then it was no big deal.

    • @ryanmalin
      @ryanmalin Před 3 lety +6

      lol trying to come up with excuses when the police are looking for your weapon that was involved in a crime! ha! good times! /s

    • @bantabury
      @bantabury Před 3 lety +21

      The dog ate it.

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Před 3 lety +44

      @@AndrewDeme You weren't paranoid enough, look what happened.

    • @AndrewDeme
      @AndrewDeme Před 3 lety +19

      @@bannedmann4469 as long as we have singlets, shorts, thongs and a cold beer we will be fine. Given every animal in Australia can kill you, it’s hard to be fazed by too much else.

  • @jebdunkins6796
    @jebdunkins6796 Před 3 lety +646

    This is literally a forgotten weapon

    • @HistoricalWeapons
      @HistoricalWeapons Před 2 lety +1

      Not anymore

    • @juulcat8975
      @juulcat8975 Před 2 lety +10

      I never forgot it, well it’s also my fav ww1 weapon

    • @achillebelanger9866
      @achillebelanger9866 Před 2 lety +3

      Not by me.I own two of them

    • @juulcat8975
      @juulcat8975 Před 2 lety

      @@achillebelanger9866 plllzzzzzzz give me one😩😩😩😩😩😩

    • @justinbarbee5917
      @justinbarbee5917 Před 2 lety

      I have a modified Pak version in 7.62/51.... I kinda bubbed it up but it's still one of the most accurate rifles I've ever had the pleasure of squeezing a round off of.... The.303 just doesn't have the power the 7.62 has...

  • @dbracer
    @dbracer Před 3 lety +347

    The whole idea of a draft-dodging SMLE rifle amuses me.

    • @jamesinman7670
      @jamesinman7670 Před 3 lety +3

      Same as saying Smelly to say S.M.L.E. Really fast is easier to say than Each letter or the full name

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki Před 3 lety

      It was in Australia so it was safe from being drafted in WW1 and until mid-1942 in WW2 and then only for service within Australia and it's territories which unfortunately for some conscripts included the just invaded PNG whilst most of the regular Army forces were stuck in North Africa.

    • @deathbyastonishment7930
      @deathbyastonishment7930 Před 3 lety

      @@IceWolfLoki conscripts? That doesn’t sound right, the PNG soldiers were the reserves, I don’t believe Australia has ever had conscription unless I’m mistaken

    • @IceWolfLoki
      @IceWolfLoki Před 3 lety +3

      ​@@deathbyastonishment7930 the soldiers sent to PNG were AIF (Regular Army) and CMF (Reserves) from 1942 you could be conscripted into the CMF but the CMF could initially only serve within Australian Territory (like the UK's Home Guard) but as stated Australian Territory included PNG at the time and they had no other soldiers available in the emergency.

    • @waveman1500
      @waveman1500 Před 3 lety +5

      @@deathbyastonishment7930 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Australia
      Ask anyone who remembers the Vietnam War.
      Australia had conscription for WW1, WW2, the Korean War and the Vietnam War.

  • @billbolton
    @billbolton Před 3 lety +595

    '....before they all got slaughtered by artillery.' Unfortunately true.

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse Před 3 lety +17

      What was the percentage of death by artillery in WW1? 70?

    • @billbolton
      @billbolton Před 3 lety +15

      @@MausOfTheHousearound that figure, yes.

    • @MausOfTheHouse
      @MausOfTheHouse Před 3 lety +17

      @@billbolton Absolutely horrifying

    • @richieb7692
      @richieb7692 Před 3 lety +16

      One of the Biggest mistakes of WW1 was The Pals Regiments.
      The idea was that because the whole town was in the same regiment, they will for closer bonds and fight harder looking out for each other.
      In reality, all the men from a town were blown apart by a well aimed artillery barrage.
      This is why the armed forces now deliberately spread people around, and are posted in different units, and different fronts.

    • @kieran2221
      @kieran2221 Před 3 lety +2

      I was waiting for that line - I expected it to be 'until they all got killed by machine guns' or similar.

  • @tomyorke3412
    @tomyorke3412 Před 3 lety +427

    Who's the bestist cutest bolt action rifle ever made, yes you are yes you are. Who gets all the kibble and gun oil that's right you. Such a good boy.

  • @thomasborgsmidt9801
    @thomasborgsmidt9801 Před 3 lety +315

    "Forgotten Weapons" - well, look in the attic!

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs Před 3 lety +9

      And plastered into walls.

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 Před 3 lety +19

      Often happens in Britain, someone is renovating a house and finds their great grandfathers old service revolver or similar.

    • @thomasborgsmidt9801
      @thomasborgsmidt9801 Před 3 lety +6

      @@thomas316 My uncle - he was in the resistance - had two of the large black plastic sacks removed after his death. The police was glad to get them out of the way - they knew he had something; but my uncle most certainly would not again be taken without a fight.

    • @guaporeturns9472
      @guaporeturns9472 Před 3 lety +4

      @@thomasborgsmidt9801 what resistance? There has been a lot of "resistance" in the last century.

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 Před 3 lety +3

      That's where my dad kept his rifle for years.

  • @SaucyAlfredo
    @SaucyAlfredo Před 3 lety +115

    Thank you Australian reservist for “forgetting” where your gun was

    • @russcole5685
      @russcole5685 Před 3 lety +8

      He didn't forget, he died before the out break of WW1, as Ian said in his first line of speach

    • @stevenlee798
      @stevenlee798 Před 3 lety +2

      We'd like it back......thanks.🤓

  • @martiniv8924
    @martiniv8924 Před 3 lety +201

    Under the bed ?, a neighbour passed away in our street in the early 70’s, they found a small cardboard suitcase under his bed with a Webley 38, plus ammo, and 4 mills hand grenades , glad we never hassled him on Halloween 🎃 😂

    • @krisskringle920
      @krisskringle920 Před 3 lety +20

      dude could've taken on the local police and become the defacto leader of your town with that kinda firepower!

    • @dzonbrodi514
      @dzonbrodi514 Před 3 lety

      @@thecommissaruk What was her name?

    • @karvast5726
      @karvast5726 Před 3 lety

      I don't know if that is true because i did not see it but my stepmother family had picked up a german pistol in ww2 and kept it for a long time,at some point someone trewh it in the trash because they didn't want any gun in the house.

    • @martiniv8924
      @martiniv8924 Před 3 lety +1

      @@krisskringle920 he could, he was a kind of gentleman type of character , and 5 minutes drive away was 21 SAS special forces 😆

    • @Vodkasnez
      @Vodkasnez Před 3 lety +3

      You throw eggs at his house, he throws a grenade back

  • @mrbismarck
    @mrbismarck Před 3 lety +87

    "I had a boating accident under my bed."

  • @jeramyw
    @jeramyw Před 3 lety +281

    What a beautiful piece of engineering. Full length stock and handguard, a chunk of steel at one end, and a chunk of brass at the other. One of the best looking bolt guns ever.

    • @balham456
      @balham456 Před 3 lety +34

      THE best looking bolt action - ever.

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw Před 3 lety +20

      @@balham456 I agree but didn't want to start controversy.

    • @baobo67
      @baobo67 Před 3 lety +11

      @@balham456 The best bolt action battle rifle ever. (and the No4)

    • @tays8306
      @tays8306 Před 3 lety +9

      @@baobo67
      As a commonwealther, I agree.
      Add the FN hi power to that list too.

    • @baobo67
      @baobo67 Před 3 lety +6

      @@tays8306 Right and the Owen Gun. See Ian's take on it. Makes me proud to be an Aussie.

  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola Před 3 lety +75

    I'm picturing the Bloke and the Chap just drooling over that rifle.

    • @MrSaerrock
      @MrSaerrock Před 3 lety +7

      They & any collector or shooter in Australia with any interest in the 303..😮

    • @COMPOSITE.02
      @COMPOSITE.02 Před 3 lety +4

      "Roight, propah Firearm."

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 Před 3 lety

      They are not the only ones drooling over that lovely specimen.
      Ian has sold me on something I dare not handle.

  • @rautavaara9194
    @rautavaara9194 Před 3 lety +223

    The British: "We have the most elite, most sophisticated sense of humour."
    Also the British: "This abbreviation almost spells smelly, HAHA!"

    • @Reactordrone
      @Reactordrone Před 3 lety +14

      Must be why they changed from ShtLE.

    • @JohnHughesChampigny
      @JohnHughesChampigny Před 3 lety +9

      'Ah, this must be the famous Ankh-Morpork sense of humour, yes?’
      ‘No, that was just irony,’ Vimes shouted, still looking for an arboreal escape route. ‘You’ll know when we’ve got on to the famous Ankh-Morpork sense of humour when I start talking about breasts and farting, you smug bastard!' -- Pterry

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan Před 3 lety +6

      @@thecommissaruk - Same here, I come from a British army family and have only recently heard it referred to as such. It’s always been the ‘letters’ as you describe.

    • @etherealhawk
      @etherealhawk Před 3 lety

      @@JohnHughesChampigny nice reference

    • @TheArgieH
      @TheArgieH Před 2 lety +1

      @@thecommissaruk Even worse I heard somebody trying to explain it was because of the smell of the gun oil. Oh deary me!

  • @andrewreynolds9371
    @andrewreynolds9371 Před 3 lety +119

    British soldier draws his bayonet and yells to Japanese soldier "Mine's bigger than yours!"

    • @HuckOrris
      @HuckOrris Před 3 lety +37

      The Australian: "That's not a bayonet. THAT'S a bayonet."

    • @generalwoundwort8191
      @generalwoundwort8191 Před 3 lety +24

      " They don't like it up'um "

    • @callumwilliams1449
      @callumwilliams1449 Před 3 lety +13

      Any bigger and it's a bayonet with a rifle attachment.

    • @recoilrob324
      @recoilrob324 Před 3 lety +11

      @@callumwilliams1449 A little understood factoid about the bayonet choice was that at that time cavalry was still a big part of the military and those buggers had a tendency to ride through infantrymen whilst hacking them to pieces with their sabers. The rifle and bayonet needed to be long enough to reach, stick and unseat these fellows from their mounts and when they went to the shorter rifle they needed the longer bayonet to equal the old rifle which was just long enough to do the job. When cavalry units became a thing of the past the need for such a long bayonet was eliminated and many went to something shorter being more maneuverable and easier to use.

    • @stephenjones6500
      @stephenjones6500 Před 3 lety +9

      The Japanese would've stuck a bayonet on the yamato's 18" guns if they could .

  • @rycroft2557
    @rycroft2557 Před 3 lety +78

    Just saw one of these in my local gun store for only 675! its dated 1916 and in really solid condition. Such an impulse buy and I do not regret my purchase one bit even if finding ammo for it will be tough.

    • @carebear6179
      @carebear6179 Před 2 lety +2

      I reload mine, it's the same year as yours. I use H 4350 awesome groups, use heavier bullets, like 180s.

    • @thomaslikescars
      @thomaslikescars Před 2 lety +1

      My local gun shop has one for $300 and condition is fine. Not perfect and kind of clunky but I think more than a good deal. Probably buy it today assuming it's still there

    • @russwoodward8251
      @russwoodward8251 Před rokem

      Impulse buy here too. Just bought a No. 1 MK 3 from Royal Tiger Imports.

    • @LegacyLoot
      @LegacyLoot Před rokem

      ​@@russwoodward8251 How does that rifle seem? I've been looking at buying one from that site

  • @segrientboar5954
    @segrientboar5954 Před 3 lety +106

    This rifle remained in Australian service through the Korean War and early in the Malayan Emergency also, until replaced by the L1A1 SLR (FN FAL) in the late 1950's.

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm surprised gun jesus missed that!

    • @commiecrusher
      @commiecrusher Před 3 lety

      I've read stories about Canadians in Korea kicking some serious commie ass with SHTLE's.

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 Před 3 lety +1

      SMLE’s were manufactured at Lithgow until 1955.

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 Před rokem +1

      And in India until they changed to the 2A and in South Africa ( made in both places ) .

  • @myang245
    @myang245 Před 3 lety +50

    Doug Demuro has "THISSS"
    Ian McCullom has "and today we are looking at...."

    • @rtankard
      @rtankard Před 3 lety +16

      Ian is the kind of guy to have two identical SMLE rifles but still know many quirks and features between them. Maybe he should do an Ian score at the end if each video...

  • @HGZinc
    @HGZinc Před 3 lety +42

    If ever my grandmother took you to the fair, the best part of the trip was getting her to have a go on the shooting gallery, because she was an amazing shot. Why? Because her father had been in the BEF during the first world war and had taught her how to shoot. He'd actually been an artilleryman, but that didn't get you out of rifle practice in the BEF.
    She also learned to drive during the second world war when she served as an engine driver in the fire service during the Manchester Blitz. Amazing person and I miss her very much, even if her driving skills were slightly terrifying.

    • @bruceinoz8002
      @bruceinoz8002 Před 3 lety +9

      "Drive like you are being bombed!"

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish Před 3 lety +2

      Didn't the queen have much the same driving history? And a penchant for terrifying guests with it?

  • @badnewsBH
    @badnewsBH Před 3 lety +74

    Thanks very much to the owner that let Ian get his greedy little mitts on this beauty. You are a champion of history, sir.

  • @24879067marshall
    @24879067marshall Před 3 lety +65

    used those in the school boy army cadets. at 13 years of age it kicked like a mule. Great rifle and fairly accurate with little trigger time.

    • @dp-sr1fd
      @dp-sr1fd Před 3 lety +11

      I remember using it in the air cadets and, as a bony 14 year old, it kicked painfully hard. I was enjoying myself so much i didn't feel a thing.

    • @h.walker1332
      @h.walker1332 Před 3 lety +8

      @@dp-sr1fd Then they converted them to .22 for some reason.

    • @dp-sr1fd
      @dp-sr1fd Před 3 lety +11

      @@h.walker1332 I also used the no 8 .22 trainer. I would love to have one of those now. There are thousands still in storage and I think the plan is to scrap them. I wish they could be saved somehow.

    • @h.walker1332
      @h.walker1332 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dp-sr1fd I mean they are definitely the heaviest most oversized .22 rifles in the world.

    • @enemysub9057
      @enemysub9057 Před 3 lety +4

      A guy I worked with said he used to take his rifle home with him on the train when he was a cadet. It was definitely a different time. I don't even think they let cadets handle real firearms these days.

  • @dukkha62
    @dukkha62 Před 3 lety +12

    In Australia, the hook quillon bayonet is usually worth far more than the SMLE rifle itself as they are so rare.

  • @joeinfax4190
    @joeinfax4190 Před 3 lety +11

    Great video, I learned to spell it SMeLEe as a training aid to remember Short Magazine Lee Enfield for testing.
    For me the smellee is sentimental and I remember when I was a kid in Army Cadets and the first time I was on the rifle party for the Remembrance Day ceremony. We usually trained with air rifles, the Lee-Enfield C#7 (.22 cal) and the FN so the only time the SMLEs came out was for rifle party drill training. It was a real treat marching through town in our battledress with that rifle on our shoulder, until we halted at the cenotaph to see the serious faces of the veterans. They were in that other world as the Last Post was played and we fired the Salute. The many Names of the Fallen from our small town were spoken again, wreaths laid, speeches read, the poem recited, they were led in prayer and sang the Anthem and then they were dismissed until the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month.
    Afterwards we returned the rifles to a vault in a storage room in the Legion Hall, that was accessed via the bar room. When we were done we entered the bar to see the veterans gathered. Our adult officers went to speak with them and we were told to sit at a table and behave ourselves. The older cadets that had been on the rifle party before relaxed but the rest of us fidgeted like the kids in a bar that we were, when to our surprise the bartender approached carrying a tray with beer glasses and two pitchers of beer. "Compliments of the Members for a job well done" he said as he emptied the tray. The older Cadets thanked him and the Members and filled the glasses as us kids scanned the room for our adult officers, to see that they had humanely departed. This is great I thought as I raised my glass, only to meet the stern gaze of Mr. Harrison, my Science teacher, sitting at the bar. Very British, he ran a strict but fair classroom in a no nonsense manner that would never tolerate mixing beer and students. He must have seen my panic because instead of pulling me by the ear from my chair as I half expected he simply raised his glass. Surprised, I raised mine to him, he smiled, we drank and then he turned to his friends at the bar. Most of the veterans were in small groups quietly talking or just thinking and after our drinks were finished we quietly left to walk into a chill November day.
    Call me sentimental but the SMLE will always remind me of the first time I drank amongst men.

  • @kubrick1969
    @kubrick1969 Před 3 lety +16

    When I was a child thought than the bayonet plug was the barrel... what a beautiful weapon!!!

  • @AwesomeFantasyXI
    @AwesomeFantasyXI Před 3 lety +35

    My Great Grandfather served over in Egypt during WW1. Was issued a SMLE and in his war time diary he even mentions the rifle number, Though I dont think it is the serial number, probably a rack or ID number (WL70 (there is then the number 105 but I dont know if that is crossed out or underlined so it could be WL70 or WL70105). He also listed his bayonet number which was 184, again probably just some ID or rack number for the regiment he was in (Essex Regiment). Though I still think it would be amazing to actually find his service rifle but I know that this is unlikely.

  • @samjames1253
    @samjames1253 Před 3 lety +30

    The smoothest rifle I've ever shot. Beautiful

    • @supertom8552
      @supertom8552 Před 3 lety +1

      I have a 1943 mark 3 series 4 star , sporterized beautiful gun was my dads 😪 shoots great 👍

    • @assasin377
      @assasin377 Před 3 lety +3

      @@supertom8552 >sporterised
      visible disgust.jpg

  • @bobsmoot2392
    @bobsmoot2392 Před 3 lety +4

    When I was a kid (1960s) our family vacationed in Ontario. In sporting goods stores, these were stuffed in garbage cans with sign: "Your choice $7". "Bayonets: $1.50".

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 Před 3 lety +29

    And gun-jesus preached to the masses of the holy SMLE and the masses cheered and gave a mass salute with their assorted blessed weapons! :D - Seriously, always great to watch someone who knows something I am interested in talk - especially the little anecdotes and side-stories! Good investment of a little money on Patreon :)

  • @jmullner76
    @jmullner76 Před 3 lety +14

    Somewhere a Bloke smiles and an Othais goes "meh."

  • @klaassiersma4892
    @klaassiersma4892 Před 3 lety +13

    I love those lee enfield's, my dad used one of those enfield jungle carabines in Indonesia ( the Brits aperantly sold a bunch of them to the Netherlands after the second world war)

    • @ozzymandius666
      @ozzymandius666 Před 3 lety +2

      Ahh, yes, the jungle carbine, lightweight, with that special recoil-concentrator pad.

  • @johno9507
    @johno9507 Před 3 lety +18

    I own a 1908 built Australian Mk3 SMLE .303 Lee Enfield that was used by my great uncle in Gallipoli and later in France during WW1.
    I still fire this gun regularly (with surplus 1942 ammo) and is still the most accurate long distance rifle I've fired.
    My best shot was a wild pig at 950 yards using only the adjustable ramp sights (at its elevation limit)...and I have witnesses! ☺️
    There's something very special about using something with so much history attached. 🇦🇺

  • @plymouth5714
    @plymouth5714 Před 3 lety +1

    That is one beautiful conditioned Smelly! I have a 1914 LSA No1 MkIII, sadly deactivated. She was in her 'through two world wars and more' state when I purchased her having gone through 'EY' (only to be fired in an emergency, ie, some Nazi is kicking down your front door) to the full 'DP' (stamped over the EY for Drill Purpose only) I spent years sourcing the bits she'd lost over the decades to re-build her back to 1914 - windage sights, correct front nose cap and piling swivel and front and rear volley sights. A full de-rust and re-bluing so now she looks almost as good as your example. She may never fire again to defend the home, but the old bayonet still works! Great video and thanks for it!

  • @johnlevingston3122
    @johnlevingston3122 Před rokem +5

    The stock has "CMF" also stamped which means "Citizens Military Forces".

  • @culshie
    @culshie Před 3 lety +39

    Christmas is over and yet Ian is still giving Old Soldiers of the Queen gifts. Huzza!!!

  • @Joncom98
    @Joncom98 Před 3 lety +8

    You’ve made so many videos on the different types of enfields and the variances between them that I’m mentally checking off the differences between them as the video continues now.

  • @martingardener90
    @martingardener90 Před 3 lety +8

    Interesting to see the Wilkinson marking on the bayonet and that the company who excelled in swords and bayonets still is a thriving today - they've just added more blades!

  • @3ducs
    @3ducs Před 3 lety +17

    I can't be the only one confused by SMLE nomenclature. Marks and numbers and stars oh my, makes my head spin.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 Před 3 lety +2

      Welcome to the British armament system. Be sure to carry a reference book and take lots of notes.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 Před 3 lety +2

      It's really simple: mk xx it's a major change on the previous version, star it's a small change that does not deserve a new number.

    • @TheCoyote808
      @TheCoyote808 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Hybris51129 I'm curious to see his reaction to the US Army's different armament designation systems for LITERALLY everything. And then introduce him to the largely overlapping NAVAL Designation system. And then the National Stock Numbering System (NSN)... I'll wait.

    • @beyer6029
      @beyer6029 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheCoyote808 What M1.... that cover most thing right?

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 3 lety +23

    That particular piece may hay been forgotten, but the generic SMLE III must be the LEAST "forgotte" weapon Ian's ever shown, with the possible exception of 1911s and Thompsons

    • @HerbiieIsBest
      @HerbiieIsBest Před 3 lety +3

      I mean this particular rifle was forgotten under the bed sooo

  • @christianstahl4099
    @christianstahl4099 Před 3 lety +1

    It really is a remarkable ability to make a video about the umptienth iteration/variant of a well-known rifle interesting for people who are not hardcore collectors or enthusiasts. Mr. McCollum could certainly explain snow to eskimos, and still find a happy audience.

  • @sr633
    @sr633 Před 3 lety +9

    In a West Virginia hardware store in 1960 you could buy one of these rifles for $10 ! They had Russian bolt action rifle too for the same money.

  • @MRFlackAttack1
    @MRFlackAttack1 Před 3 lety +17

    Swear to god, I was looking up stuff about the SMLE mkIII earlier today, specifically because it’s what Australia was using through WW1 & 2, and now only a few hours later Ian publishes this. How did he know? Is Ian some kind of wizard?

    • @amorphoussolid8512
      @amorphoussolid8512 Před 3 lety +4

      Considering how many times I've seen the same thing happen to other people my response would be yes, yes he is mate! A damn good one too!

    • @lesjames5191
      @lesjames5191 Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely a wizard! Dress Ian in medieval clothes with his hair style and beard he would look like Merlin.

    • @richardelliott9511
      @richardelliott9511 Před 2 lety

      He did it to me but on the darker side. He did a video on an antique S&W revolver just like one I was bidding for on Gun Broker. The bids suddenly spiked after the video posted. Fotunately the market calmed down for the next one and I was able to get that one...

    • @simonblair-beal3952
      @simonblair-beal3952 Před rokem

      Australia also used it in the Korean war.

  • @astropictures4396
    @astropictures4396 Před 3 lety +8

    This has got to be my favourite weapon of all time.

  • @TheNextGreatApe
    @TheNextGreatApe Před 3 lety +2

    The first time I saw a WW1 mk3 Enfield was as a teenager about 1980 or so when I was into old cars and hotrodding. The owner of a local auto scrap yard I frequented kept one loaded behind his counter - he lived in the back and would use it to shoot at thieves trying to steal parts at night.

  • @briantayler1230
    @briantayler1230 Před 3 lety +1

    I was an army cadet while at high school in Brisbane Australia 1069-71. Our armoury had 300 MKIII rifles and several Bren guns. I remember the MKIII well and all were made 1914-18. This brings back memories.

  • @BerndFelsche
    @BerndFelsche Před 3 lety +3

    I was lucky enough to have several SMLE in my hands while I was an (Australian) Army Cadet in the first half of the 1970's. Oldest was stamped 1918 and the youngest 1943 (IIRC). We got to fire them sometimes and depending on weather and ammunition, one could watch the slow rounds spin through the damp morning air on its way to the target.
    Stories are told of how the SMLE were cut up and dumped offshore (5 Military District in Western Australia) when the government closed down Army Cadets in 1975/76..

  • @johnabts7926
    @johnabts7926 Před 3 lety +141

    I give thanks for being so early to today's gospel

  • @k.r.baylor8825
    @k.r.baylor8825 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you, Ian, for finally doing a segment on my favorite rifle of all time. My three are treasured possessions.

  • @ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524

    Crikey a Lee Enfield!! We had these as Cadets at school (Scoltand) in the 80s. Bored for 7.62 NATO for full bore shooting and the Nr8 for 22LR shooting on the school range. Gave me a lifelong love of shooting! Beautiful rifle.

  • @astondriver
    @astondriver Před 3 lety +5

    Dont forget the kiwis. And the maori battalion used the long bayonet to great effect on Crete.

  • @GarrettsGear
    @GarrettsGear Před 3 lety +6

    This gun played a massive part in the shaping of the modern world. Even back in the early Call of Duty days, i always loved the look of the Lee Enfield Rifle.

  • @jagreb
    @jagreb Před 3 lety

    My goodness--What a wealth of interesting information! Well done and very much appreciated.

  • @nikke8410
    @nikke8410 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video! I really enjoyed this one as always!

  • @impliedtomato8760
    @impliedtomato8760 Před 3 lety +6

    I really love this rifle, it was the first rifle I ever bought. 1916 mkiii*

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc4084 Před 3 lety +94

    Marketing team. " we need a cool abbreviation for our product"
    The british- "snigger"

    • @jeffslote9671
      @jeffslote9671 Před 3 lety +6

      I had to read your post twice. I thought you said something else

    • @scrubsrc4084
      @scrubsrc4084 Před 3 lety +8

      @@jeffslote9671 yep, i had to triple check my auto correct made numerous questionable suggestions to me lol

    • @hunterprokurat9909
      @hunterprokurat9909 Před 3 lety

      Had to do a retake on that lmao

    • @NicOlas-yc5vw
      @NicOlas-yc5vw Před 3 lety +1

      My friend had a dog named "Snickers" every time they called for him it sounded racist

    • @stephenjones6500
      @stephenjones6500 Před 3 lety +3

      Look if we can call a ship" boaty mcboatface" we can call a rifle a smelly . bleedin politicians spoiling our fun.

  • @WardDorrity
    @WardDorrity Před 10 měsíci

    I've got a No 1 mkIII 2a3 made in 1968 in Rifle Factory Ishapore. Chambered in 308 with a 12 round magazine. The action is butter smooth. The bore is nice and shiny,
    leading me to conclude that marching about was its principal use. Paid $110 for it.

  • @setesh1294
    @setesh1294 Před 3 lety +3

    I have one of these from 1918. It's a gorgeous rifle. Not nearly as well kept as this one, but good enough for me.

  • @tekumeku2244
    @tekumeku2244 Před 3 lety +44

    And the Design would be so successful that it would continue to see service even to this day.
    And Best Hiding spot ever for a gun, just casually stuck under the bed XD

    • @Stevarooni
      @Stevarooni Před 3 lety +1

      I think the Indians were the last to drop it from regular service, until 2018.

    • @ajvotto6901
      @ajvotto6901 Před 3 lety +1

      Nono- Under an Aussie's bed. Dangerous place that.

    • @AshleyPomeroy
      @AshleyPomeroy Před 3 lety +1

      @@Stevarooni I think there was a unit in Canada that used them until last year - for bears. Some kind of arctic patrol unit. They were using .303 MkIVs though.

    • @clothar23
      @clothar23 Před 3 lety

      @@AshleyPomeroy The unit you're talking about is the Canadian Rangers. They're a Reserve Force tasked with sovereignty patrols and inspections of NWS sites ( North Warning Systems ) .
      And you are correct . They were issued the No 4 Lee Enfield from 1947 to 2015 were it was replaced with the C19. All currently serving Canadian Rangers were than officially gifted their No 4s.

    • @Hjerte_Verke
      @Hjerte_Verke Před 3 lety

      @@AshleyPomeroy Using the early nomenclature that Ian was using, those Enfields would be called Mk1s. But now they're known as No. 4 Mk. 1. Confusing for sure but easy to learn...

  • @quentinhoover7418
    @quentinhoover7418 Před 3 lety +3

    One of the cleanest time capsules I have ever seen, amazing

  • @lawrencemartinjr6888
    @lawrencemartinjr6888 Před 3 lety +2

    Love the history lessons bro! Thank you,

  • @walterblock8272
    @walterblock8272 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the work you put into these videos, this goes to show a rifle doesn't have to be obscure to be interesting or woth taking a look at. This example is a real time capsule rifle and that is worth a lot. The No4 trials and the rifles that were part of them and then issue out in WW2 would be a very interesting set of videos for all the Lee Enfield fans out there.

  • @kylesonter1400
    @kylesonter1400 Před 3 lety +5

    Got into an argument when I was trying to look for a second hand Lee with a dude who said the crown was for sold out of service. Wasn't certain till this one as I've never seen an Australian Lee so thank you greatly mate!

    • @nevillewebb6259
      @nevillewebb6259 Před 3 lety +1

      The 1st Australian made SMLE wasnt until June 1913 at the Lithgow NSW factory, the arrows mean sold to public but not guaranteed to be serviceable.

    • @kylesonter1400
      @kylesonter1400 Před 3 lety

      @@nevillewebb6259 True God, thank you for the tid bit of info!

  • @OutsideTheTargetDemographic

    I recently found the "C&rsenal" channel, so this is a great refresher on the knowledge I'm starting to gain. 👍

  • @shanebroomhall
    @shanebroomhall Před 3 lety

    Great Video Ian, as an Aussie, this was great to watch. Thanks..

  • @matthew1973
    @matthew1973 Před 3 lety +1

    That is a great looking rifle. I would love to have one. Another great video Sir!

  • @justarandommalayboi8231
    @justarandommalayboi8231 Před 3 lety +6

    I think I love this rifle too much...

  • @sushikazuki5945
    @sushikazuki5945 Před 3 lety +27

    Last time I was this early, the Germans were marching into Belgium

  • @deviljelly3
    @deviljelly3 Před 3 lety

    I adore your work Ian.

  • @ekim000
    @ekim000 Před 3 lety +1

    What an absolute gem! Big ups to the collector for allowing Ian to show it off.

  • @cenzgullo3097
    @cenzgullo3097 Před 3 lety +5

    Love the SMLE documentary.

  • @sergeykoshelev4566
    @sergeykoshelev4566 Před 3 lety +3

    It's a great luck, that this rifle has been found by one, who actually knew what it is. And it has not been destroyed or sporterised instead. Thank you, goodman.

  • @davidwallace5738
    @davidwallace5738 Před 3 lety +1

    Very informative. Thank you, sir!

  • @PeterNissen878112
    @PeterNissen878112 Před 3 lety +1

    All I can say is thank goodness this rifle escape Australia and the gun purges of 1996. How many rifles of this condition and historical relevance were melted down post the Port Arthur gun hysteria will NEVER be known and are now forever lost!

  • @hooligan1179
    @hooligan1179 Před 3 lety +6

    He was saving it under the bed for WW3

  • @HecticJojo
    @HecticJojo Před 3 lety +22

    I wish I could own one of these

    • @ryanmalin
      @ryanmalin Před 3 lety +3

      get a reproduction., I had a rock island armory that was as good to shoot as a colt for a newbie shooter.

    • @samcoupland
      @samcoupland Před 3 lety +4

      I much of the world you can (including the UK)..

    • @dreamingflurry2729
      @dreamingflurry2729 Před 3 lety +5

      Same...in "good old" Germany you have to jump through too many legal hoops (hell, in the current pandemic it is impossible, you can't even go to a range ATM if you have one near you that allows you do shoot anything larger than .22 - in Germany the .303 round is considered large caliber (Großkaliber!) and the weapon (as a former military rifle) is an Ordonnanz-Waffe and most ranges don't allow these, hell you even have to be a member of a gun club first, you need a background check, a Waffenbesitzkarte (Weapon-Ownership-Card!), you need safe gun storage for both ammo and weapons, as they are not allowed to be stored together!)

    • @hanfpeter2822
      @hanfpeter2822 Před 3 lety +3

      @@dreamingflurry2729 in my expierence most Clubs allow any Kind of gun to be shot on their Range as long as the Range has been checked and proven to withstand projectiles carrying a certain amount of energy.

    • @zombieranger3410
      @zombieranger3410 Před 3 lety

      Completely depends on where you live, if it isn’t America, Canada, or Australia (as far as english-speaking countries go), then you might have trouble.
      As far as availability, a reproduction is just as good as the real thing but doesn’t leave you broke, but its always best to get the real thing.

  • @nickwarne
    @nickwarne Před 3 lety

    Back in the mid-1970s, we shot SMLE No.4 fitted with Parker-Hale vernier sights, in my high school shooting team. Did you know the rifles came in three different butt lengths? At the end of the summer term we shot against other schools in the Ashburton Cup at Bisley. The vee-bull was five inches across, and one could hit it reliably at 400 yards. As a sport, it sure beat cricket!

  • @keithallardice6139
    @keithallardice6139 Před 3 lety +1

    Great story, beautiful rifle!!! Always happy to see an SMLE ...

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog Před 3 lety +3

    It's in beautiful condition.

  • @dustinshadle732
    @dustinshadle732 Před 3 lety +4

    the Mounties in Canada used SMLE rifles for bear protection until recently

    • @wafflehousez
      @wafflehousez Před 3 lety

      Canadian Rangers also used them.

    • @yowie0889
      @yowie0889 Před 3 lety

      Surely a grizzly bear can protect itself just fine.

  • @ghanashyamkaale7389
    @ghanashyamkaale7389 Před rokem

    Great information and I really like this superb weapon !!

  • @PRACERZ
    @PRACERZ Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the great history on my SMLE !!

  • @samplunkett852
    @samplunkett852 Před 3 lety +4

    Pretty sure this is why my grandpa had his Enfield from National Serviced in the fifties... he lost it under his bed

  • @jimph1966
    @jimph1966 Před 3 lety +6

    I will never forget the look my wife gave me when I announced we were going to a gun show to look for "smelly strippers"...

  • @thedevilinthecircuit1414

    The knurling on the front sight guards helps reduce reflected light/glare and makes the target easier to see.

  • @kalicom2937
    @kalicom2937 Před 3 lety

    Awesome stuff. A time capsule. Beautifully explained.

  • @jeramyw
    @jeramyw Před 3 lety +14

    Pro tip: 4 hole chargers work much better than 5 hole chargers.

    • @jacknelson8601
      @jacknelson8601 Před 3 lety +1

      Outstanding video........as usual.

    • @lukehavard7081
      @lukehavard7081 Před 3 lety +2

      Also, try to avoid chargers of Italian manufacture. They generally have much more resistance and are harder to use.

    • @curious-relics
      @curious-relics Před 3 lety +2

      If you're in the US, the only commonly available Enfield clips are Italian-produced copies (marked "GM" + some roman numeral) that simply do not work at all. Try to source some actual UK-produced clips if you want them to work properly.

    • @jeramyw
      @jeramyw Před 3 lety

      @@lukehavard7081 Yes, those have 5 holes.

    • @PapaSchultz74
      @PapaSchultz74 Před 3 lety +1

      4 hole chargers with 3 round and 1 elongated hole aka mk IV* contrary to the first mk4 with all 4 round holes that are very stiff.

  • @willbxtn
    @willbxtn Před 3 lety +3

    I think the old mobile charger bridge is such a cool, elegant design. Shame it was also so flawed.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 Před 3 lety +1

      It was waaaaay ahead of its time. Mobile phones wouldn't be around for another 70+ years.

  • @pauljnolan1000
    @pauljnolan1000 Před 2 lety

    Ian, you're the best. Thank you.

  • @67daffy
    @67daffy Před 3 lety +1

    In 1987 when i served in the RAN i was in Darwin at the time and there was a whole bunch of SMLE still wrapped in wax paper and cosmolene in the armory. They initially put them up for bids/sale to those who had the correct gun license of which i was one. I put in for 2 @ $50 each, won it then the stupid Hoddle St massacre happened the navy got all scared and scraped the sale.

  • @fetidcreeper
    @fetidcreeper Před 3 lety +6

    Literally no one:
    Me, 17 hours late: lAsT tImE i WaS tHiS eArLy....

  • @kingkonut
    @kingkonut Před 3 lety +13

    I've seen these still in the hands of Indian police, along with revolvers that look like webleys. Perhaps they are all Ishapores.

    • @anthonyhayes1267
      @anthonyhayes1267 Před 3 lety +2

      I can't wait for them to surplus the rest of those

    • @TasDave
      @TasDave Před 3 lety

      Ishapore 2A1 or SMLE that have been converted to .410

  • @ZombieWarningStation
    @ZombieWarningStation Před 3 lety

    I Had a 1916 smle lithglow marking didn't know much about it was learning and loving it but had to pawn it to keep the power on a few years back looked very similar condition wise but had the front top handguard replaced the rest looked pretty original. Great video! I'm hunting for another one as we speak!

  • @hasdrubal121
    @hasdrubal121 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful piece, great history.

  • @anthonybluhm4724
    @anthonybluhm4724 Před 3 lety +25

    "Turn in your guns, the government needs them."
    Yeah, alright. Get right on that.

    • @OutsideTheTargetDemographic
      @OutsideTheTargetDemographic Před 3 lety +3

      "Your arguement was both compelling and convincing. Here you go, Uncle." 🙄

    • @fabiovarra3698
      @fabiovarra3698 Před 3 lety +1

      well when there is world war going on around I'd say that it's quite a fair request

    • @G-Mastah-Fash
      @G-Mastah-Fash Před 3 lety +3

      @@fabiovarra3698 If it's as useless as WW1 I'd rather keep the rifle and stay at home.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 Před 3 lety +3

      And after the war gov. Dumps them in the ocean

  • @solwindp78-1
    @solwindp78-1 Před 3 lety +11

    6:00 Holy shit I feel bad for laughing

  • @gaza102289
    @gaza102289 Před 2 lety

    I was walking around town today and found myself at the war museum we have. After just muttering to myself "oh it's a bullpup" about one of the rifles one of the custodians asked if I'd like to hold them.
    Next thing I know I'm holding one of these rifles. Over 100 years old and apparently used in wartime. I'm amazed at how heavy they are. Soldiers held them all day back then and my shoulder starts hurting after half a minute.
    Then they handed me a bren gun. I could barely shoulder it more than a few seconds.
    Really opened my eyes.

  • @Tom-lm2tc
    @Tom-lm2tc Před 3 lety +1

    If anyone is curious, the CMF on the stock stands for Citizens Military Force, which was the former name of the army reserve/militia of Australia

    • @peterlazzari3950
      @peterlazzari3950 Před 3 lety

      Although in one book of skennerton it is said to be commonwealth military forces.

  • @stevejones1488
    @stevejones1488 Před 3 lety +4

    One arrow means department of defense in Auatralia mate.

  • @stevejones1488
    @stevejones1488 Před 3 lety +3

    Those hook bayonets are worth a mint

    • @dp-sr1fd
      @dp-sr1fd Před 3 lety +1

      Both rifle and bayonet with that provenance I would think would be worth about £2000 in the UK. Maybe more, who knows.

    • @stevejones1488
      @stevejones1488 Před 3 lety

      @@dp-sr1fd that bayonet alone is worth 4 grand

    • @dp-sr1fd
      @dp-sr1fd Před 3 lety +1

      @@stevejones1488 Wow. Mind you thinking about it, where would you get another stand of arms with that provenance.

    • @stevejones1488
      @stevejones1488 Před 3 lety

      @@dp-sr1fd they are rare, especially Australian ones.

  • @BitchenMarsRockstar
    @BitchenMarsRockstar Před 3 lety +1

    Picked one up this summer as my first surplus/historic firearm, 1918 LSA MKIII* converted back to a no *, she shoots real good and that bolt just feels oh so right.

  • @gregbennett5890
    @gregbennett5890 Před 3 lety +1

    awesome video of my favourite rifle