Why is It So Hard To Get To Jupiter's Moon Europa?
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2024
- Europa is one of the four largest satellites of Jupiter, known as the Galilean Satellites, in honor of its discoverer Galileo Galilei, who discovered them by looking through his telescope in the year 1610.
When Galileo discovered these satellites, he did not imagine that 400 years later, enormous water reserves would be discovered in this place. Today, it is known that Europa is one of the bodies with the most significant amount of water in the solar system and that it could even have all the conditions to host living beings.
But... If it's such an essential place for the search for extraterrestrial life, why haven't we been able to send a human-crewed spacecraft to explore this frozen world better?
Why is it so hard to get to Europe?
Stay with us to find out!
First approach
On March 2, 1972, the Pioneer 10 space exploration probe was launched from Cape Canaveral. This spacecraft was part of a NASA program that aimed to take advantage of an alignment gap of the outer planets to explore the solar system's gas giant planets.
The Great Find
However, the Pioneer 10 and 11 probes were much more fruitful than initially estimated. The Voyager probes would give us the probes that could best reveal the secrets of the Jovian system.
In the 1979s, after the apparent success of the Pioneer probes, NASA proceeded to
A new goal
The two groups of probes, Pioneer and Voyager, initially aimed to take advantage of the approaching gap between the gaseous planets to explore them all and, in the process, take advantage of the momentum they would obtain to leave the solar system.
But during those trips, images and data from scientific instruments showed that Europa had a much cleaner surface than expected, meaning that it didn't have many impact craters.
2016.
The best-case scenario
As you can see, a trip to the Moon Europa would not be accessible with modern technology. To undertake such a long journey, it would be best if astronauts could make brief stops at other places, such as the Moon, Mars, and Ceres, the dwarf planet in the asteroid belt.
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00:00 Intro
1:00 First approach
3:00 The Great Find
5:09 A new Goal
6:43 a very long Journey
9:28 The best-case scenario
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Because we were told not go there. “All these planets are yours, except Europa. Attempt no landing”. Really clear message some 14 years ago.
From who
Well said.
Default reply for any mention of Europa.
Is this from Destiny?
@@blairmarshall544 From the movie 2010
Why is it so hard for me to get outta bed in the morning??
Gravity
gravy
Yeah! And why, when I hit the snooze button which is supposed to give me 10 minutes more sleep seem like only a few seconds have passed from hitting the snooze and the alarm going off again? Hmm???
Now this is the question I want an answer for myself 🤣🤣
@@ketikatz pardon me but you’re absolutely stunning
Getting to Europa with "a spacecraft": Not a problem
Getting to Europa with a spacecraft carrying a "living payload that doesn't need to come back"D A lot harder, very expensive but doable if we really want it.
There and back again: Improbable, very very expensive, crew would probably need to spend months readjusting to gravity upon return including mutiple other health issues resulting from prolonged stay in space. Not feasable until we find faster ways to get there... and back again.
And let's not forget about the intense radiation on Europa due to Jupiter's magnetic field.
@garryvanamburg5684 yes this is often unmentioned in these threads and one of the biggest obstacles besides just getting there
That's why we need to find where the Millennium Falcon is.
My biggest concern,after how to get there,would be how to mitigate the immense radiation given off by Jupiter. I believe that Europa is tidally locked but it would still experience high levels of radiation even on its far side from Jupiter.
Shielding from Jupiter’s intense radiation is indeed one of the biggest challenges. Scientists are exploring innovative materials and technologies to protect spacecraft and potentially humans on Europa’s surface.
Two main ways
1. Thick radiation shielding around the electronics
2. Highly elongated orbit that keeps it out of the radiation belts most of the time and gets it through them quickly when it does swing by close for a Europa flyby
Edit: this is just for the Europa Clipper spacecraft, manned craft will be much more challenging
The answer is to skip Europa and go to Calisto instead, outside the radiation from Jupiter's magnetic field. Everyone talks about Europa, but Calisto may also contain a sub-surface ocean and definitely has surface water. If NASA could fund a crewed mission to Jupiter, Calisto would be the target.
That's why we need to find where the Naboo Royal Starship is. Some people say that it's buried in Antarctica.
If i live 30 miles away from my work, and i drive 30 miles an hour, i can get to work in 1 hour. With the knowledge my house and my work never move. Earth and europa are in constant motion. So if i leave earths atmosphere at 30 mph and the earth and europa are moving at 29.5 mph. You will get there at a snails pace. Our technology is far behind our dreams of the future.
because Earth is moving faster than Jupiter, Europa is literally running away from us, or Earth from Europa.
Your description would be more accurate if Earth was moving at a 30km/s and Europa were moving in different (!) direction at 17km/s (in our perspective (orbital speed of Jupiter is 13km/s)) while also orbiting Jupiter in 580-970 MILLIONS of kms away from us
The trip would be totally impossible because of just one reason that is totally neglected in this video: Jupiter's radiation. 540 Rem to be exact per DAY slams on Europa, while here on earth the average is about 0.620 rem per YEAR. Good luck with that.
Radiation could actually be beneficial for the begging of life
Excellent point.
Orbital Mechanics and the greatest fuel assist ever created moving at .01c with the radiation shielding tech we have now would get you there.
Why are you using rem instead of millisieverts?
Anyways, 540 rem is 5400mSv per day. Just staying there 12 hours has a kill rate of 50% with a month. 100% in 2 years.
My favorite part about Europa is those guitar solos. Great song!
Ah, no, you're thinking of the place on Earth that is also a band: Boston.
Santana. You have a wonderful tan man.
@@sarkedevBoston did have the third stage though. That was good for space travel
Alot of people mistakenly think it would be easy to get to another planet in the solar system and while we could probably do it if we spent a huge amount of resources there are a few big problems. 1) Distance even with our fastest rockets it would still take multiple years each way. There is no friction in space so you can attain a high velocity but you still have to burn alot of fuel to accelerate to that velocity. A fusion or antimatter rocket would get us there alot quicker than a traditional chemical rocket. 2) Radiation - the space station is sheltered by Earths magnetic field outside of this field you'd get a lethal dose of radiation within a week or two, within minutes/hours if a bad solar flare hit. You could protect the astronaughts if you covered the ship in lead plates but that would make the ship heavier probably too heavy to get out of Earth orbit. 3) to survive that long in space you'd need to grow you're own food and recycle the air/water with 100% efficiency. Our air/water recyclers are good but not 100% and I don't think we have successfully grown crops in space. 4) Lack of gravity - Human muscles and bones weaken quickly in zero G when the astronauts come back from weeks in space they are so weak they can barely stand. Spending years in zero G then coming back to Earth gravity would probably kill you and the ship would need to have some artificial gravity. 5) I'm not sure you could grow anything in Martian/Europa soil because even if you moderated the temperature, added air and shielded the plants from radiation the soil still wouldn't contain the nutrients and chemicals Earth Plants need.
A Large pulse fusion rocket that could apply a smooth and constant 1.2 G acceleration could solve a lot of problens on a trip like this.
You missed something that everyone does. You also need a lot of fuel to slow down to an appropriate orbit. Then you need a lot of fuel to return.
It would be easy if we're willing to learn from Han Solo.
We will never get to Europa.
Robotic missions like Mars rover yes. Manned missions, nope. Deep space travel and especially interstellar travel is a fantasy. Not going to happen.
@@nateg08 I was obviously making a tongue-in-cheek joke because the theme of this channel is: "Everything is impossible."
You can't apply absolute certainties when it comes to the future. There was a time when flying was considered something that only stupid people would actually attempt. Still, people continued fantasizing about it. I remember watching Star Trek in the nineties and fantasized about tablets and handheld scanners. That was a time when monitors were actually based on cathode ray tubes still. And in electronics I remember using green and red LEDs, or a combination of them because blue LEDs didn't exist. Now decades later, we are using handheld miniaturized OLED based screens making use of quantum-level effects that were unthinkable of just about three decades ago.
From our current perspective, many things are impossible because simply we don't have the knowledge and technology for it. Just like back then. However, we don't know what discoveries we will make in the future. Sometimes technology makes big strides, sometimes it takes a while, and you never know what impossibility becomes normalcy next. It's true that there are many hurdles to overcome, but unless they are founded in barriers placed by the universe itself, it could as well just be a matter of time. In the Medieval age it was common doctrine that man knows everything there is to know and that everything to be invented has been invented. From the perspective of a Late Medieval era man, the idea of a flying passenger airplane or the internet, are things that will never happen. Especially the latter with being an esoteric concept from his perspective. Imagine what esoteric concepts we will have in 200-300 years.
I have been there. Not cool. Very gay time.
@@nateg08I agree. I believe that is the answer to the Fermi paradox.
We haven't seen any aliens because interstellar travel is sooo impractical it's impossible. Unfortunately we will go extinct in this solar system.
Because it’s far away.
Yes. That too 😂
Water makes it likely there is life? LOL
I wouldn't say likely, possibly maybe.
Space is so big we really dont understand it it takes so long to get anywhere traveling at a very high speed and still n9t get out of our solar system
It's more likely that we will send
AI robots for space exploration, this will also reduce the need for supplies.
Hard enough to get to our own moon
Great video and information !
Thank you!
The issue with travel time is based on how we propel our spacecraft. If we could provide constant thrust to accelerate much more, ideally halfway there and then decelerate the other half, it would take far less time. The scifi book/series The Expanse shows how changing the ratio of fuel use vs. thrust would open up the solar system.
I actually thought there would also be mention about a faster spacecraft having to slow down to meet up with the satellites of Jupiter. The New Horizons probe shows how using conventional propulsion and slingshot techniques to get us to far out places has the price of the encounter being brief, Pluto's flyby being a matter of minutes for the closest approach.
There is a ferry from Dover!
What part of "ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE" was unclear???
I expected at some point that "we cannot land on Europa because we can contaminate it and don't want to." But instead got a thorough analysis of the challenges of bringing humans this far out in the solar system, which was super interesting. However I think the contamination issue would be valid, Nasa didn't want to approach one of Mars' riverbeds for this specific reason. I'd have to look up the details of it.
Its a weird premise for a video. Its not like its the late 21st century, and we have thriving outposts on Mars, or even the moon for that matter!
It will be much easier to get to Europa when the bridge from Earth to Europa is finally finished.
Thank you for an informative video. Could Europa be a place where part of humanity could stay when sun expands into red giant, or gravitation and radiation from Jupiter won't let it happen without huge leap in technology?
The way I tend to explain it: Getting into gravity wells is as much work as getting out of them. Understanding orbits requires letting go of the idea of "falling." That's not a real thing. Delta-v doesn't fit our instinctive experiences very well.
Because the bus service is rubbish, only 3 busses a week.
First time to your channel. So disapointed with the robotic voice.
Bros can’t even make it to the moon
Betcha I could make it in Uranus brugh.
Missed a chance here, the arrow in the thumbnail should start in Europe, so it could connect Europe and Europa
water=life? . Water is indeed nesessary for live - but that is only 1 condition of millions - Indeed to have life you have to find exactly combined places like our earth, moon, sun . jupiter etc. - And the only place for life possible to be found would be that twin earth.
Do more research
Jupiter emits a very high level of radiation, primarily from its intense magnetic field, which traps and accelerates particles. Europa, one of Jupiter’s moons, is subjected to this harsh radiation environment. The radiation levels on Europa are extreme, estimated to be about 5,400 millisieverts (mSv) per day. This amount of radiation is more than a thousand times higher than the average dose someone would receive on Earth in a year, making Europa an extremely challenging environment for potential robotic missions or any form of life as we know it.
Hard to get visa?
The question of "why haven't we sent humans there" is sort of ridiculous. The only extraterrestrial body people have ever been to is the moon, the closest place to us. Even doing that was a struggle, only a dozen people have ever been there, and we haven't been back for 50 years. We haven't even gotten people to MARS! Why would we jump from the moon, past mars and the giant gap that is the asteroid belt, and go to a moon of Jupiter?
This question would work much better if you were asking about sending probes there. Even that would be the farthest we've sent a landing probe by far.
It's quite hard to get even to the moon and it's very hard to get to mars so imagine what it would take to send a manned craft to Jupiter's moon which is much further than mars.. It all comes down to technical difficulties in sustaining a human being for such long journey.. This is so obvious that the further we go, the greater the technical challenges..
Absolutely, the challenges of deep space travel are immense, especially for missions to Jupiter's moons. Advancements in technology will be crucial for overcoming these hurdles.
Not only are there technical difficulties to keep people alive like you said, but also a huge financial challenge even if you solve the first one
We didn't ever go on moon lol 😂
Because it is toxic outside of the Earth's atmosphere.
Inside me ma's bee whole is also Toxic is what me pa says to me.
My takeaway is that before we think about going anywhere and doing anything else in space, step 1 is to create a space infrastructure. I guess that would really be step 2. The REAL step 1 is to think of a way to make the create of a space infrastructure financially profitable.
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I've learned that there is no end to the lengths humans will go to for money, sex and power.
You are correct but there's a big problem. Creating a space infrastructure will never be financially profitable.
We don't seem to be able to get back to the moon, let alone create any type of base on the moon. So I think we are talking about another century or two before we could even think about landing a man on Europa.
Ima save you 12 minutes: why is it so hard to get to Europa? It’s FAR
Plate techtonics in artificial satellites -- had never heard of that before. I think it's not a thing.
It may sound surprising, but plate tectonics can indeed occur in artificial satellites
@@InsaneCuriosity Are you an AI generated voice piloted by chatGPT? Tell me the truth.
It is a thing. Educate yourself.
@@user-ln1ec9qr5y I did look it up, and from Sputnik, to Telstar, to weather satellites, to Starlink, none of them are geologically active or have ever had plate tectonic activity. Maybe Europa and Ganymede, but those are natural satellites, not artificial. If you are able to pay attention, you will have noticed that the narration talked about ARTIFICIAL satellites having plate techtonics. Mine was a commentary on that error, one that you repeated after not noticing it to begin with
Long distance
Europa is known in ancient mythology as "modern Atlantyda" 👀ツ
not hard to get to Europa if you send a satellite there instead of a manned spacecraft.... as far as im concerned, we sent a flyby to take a photo of jupiter years ago and we had huygen land on titan in 2005. So, it shouldnt be that much harder to land one or orbit Europa
Wdym? I live there🤨
At 5:39 he says “…and this was something completely new since, until then, no known *artificial* satellite showed geological activity.” ISS is an artificial satellite; Europa is a natural satellite 🤦🏻♂️
Because it’s so far away…
Why you always have to do pluto like that !😂
Maybe because the tech to get there is being suppressed.
Uhhh, because it orbits Jupiter?
Its impossible because of jupiters magnetosphere and its extreme radiation
So hard to get there and yet in yr 1600 that guy can see Europa 628 million km away ..
Well, yes....and we can see other objects billions of light years away. It takes 3 days to get to the moon and you can see that with the naked eye. You can see a mountain from a hundred miles away, how long does it take to get there in a car??What is your point?
What about nuclear fuel
Cus the darkness pyramids are there
let me guess then i'll see what the video says
Could be that it goes in and out of one of jupiter's radiation belts. belts that are vastly more deadly than the radiation belts around earth.
could also be taht it extremely tricking timing a vehicle to go there , with bother Jupiter and Europa at their cloestest distances to earth. that being when jupiter is closest to earth europa is ont eh toehr side of jupiter and vice versa. when europa is on the closer side of jupiter , jupiter is at one of it's furtherst positions from us.
Great video! Europa and... Barothrauma😉 But asking WHY we have not yet made significant exploration of our home system? Oh I dont know.. because clearly wasting billions of cash on pointless wars, conflict and nonsense back on this rock is seemingly more important! We should at least colonize and make other celestial bodies as backup plans. Then we cans go full ape throwing explosive fung at each other. We have for now 1 home, and we can barely take care of it and eachother🤪💥 Do we deserve new ones? At least only ones that does give a darn🫶
Far : the end
We could not even get to Jupiter let alone aspire to reach to a distant star. Humans are intelligent but that does not mean they can achieve everything. Certain things are off limits. No matter how much we grow as a species, I believe Interstellar and intergalactic travel are permanently out of reach. We cannot do it even in a million years.
I agree. That is the solution to the Fermi paradox.
Brcause Rússia wants Europa
Barotrauma
Am i the only one that caught that he called europa an "artificial satellite?"
This channel is all chatGPT brugh. AI generated voice, chatGPT script.
If a space mission to our neighbour planet jupiter will take 8.5 years, how can we talk about missions to proxima centauri 4 light years away?
We can't escape solar system what are you on
@@milashah8902 we sure can mate
We will never be able to reach proxima. Not even in a million years of growth as a species. By then we would be long extinct by our own fault. Our beginning and ending is already written by our beloved Sun. Optimistic attitude will not solve human limitations.
It's easy to talk about. Doing it, well that's another issue.
But return journey should take less time.. As we are going towards sun in that case.
Its as hard as Uranus..
why is it so hard to get to the moon
The worst part isn't getting there, if you send humans there they will quickly die to radiation.
Jupiters radiation belt is kinda insane.
If you are an AI voice with thoughts generated by chatGPT (like this channel's content "creator") radiation is no big deal brugh.
Then you won't have to be concerned about fuel for the return trip.
Wouldn't it be more likely advanced robots are sent in the near future rather than humans?
That's my thought. Robotic missions like Mars rover are far more likely. Man will never set foot on Europa. Deep space travel, especially interstellar, is a fantasy.
Yes
I have the solution….
Solar panels and a Tesla fully stocked with Coors Light.
That won't work. You need Heineken.
@@user-ln1ec9qr5y Heineken is too heavy. Too much mass. You need something lighter.
Why is it so hard to get to europa? Because it's far. We can't get to mars with manned flight and likely can't even go back to the moon today
What? We sent probes to the moon like a year ago. Getting to the moon is easy.
We could send people to Mars also, it’s just that the risk is high.
most of people arent able to clean their bottom after taking number 2 and you speak about bases on other moons and planets.... why im watching this non sense and subscribed to this mental issues i dont know
why do you think we wanna leave 😭😭😭
@@AmonTheWitch haha Amon lets say a group of smart, rich and what else, of 1000 people, will embark on a journey to other planets, who will clean, who will be screamed at, who gonna bang who, who gonna take criticism? they will fail without any one under them mentally, it will be conflict after conflict, in real life isnt like in a movie, people like to make other feel inferior, and put them to work but once you have same type is a recipe for disaster, thats why its one manager to a department and not all managers
Absolute nonsense regarding the "heavier objects fly slower because sun pulls them harder" bullsh*t. Before making such claims emphasizing it 3 times in the video, the author should probably play some Kerbal Space Program to understand how orbital mechanics work or something.
It took 5 years for Juno to get to Jupiter not because it was way heavier than the Voyagers. Since it's so heavy and it would take even more heavy fuel to propel it towards Jupiter just with its own engine, the Atlas V 551 rocket would not be able to launch such a massive payload. So instead of taking lots of heavy fuel onboard, Juno made one full elliptical orbit around the Sun, came back to Earth for a flyby and then did a gravity assist maneuver using Earth' gravity to gain more velocity and launch itself towards Jupiter.
The additional time it took to get to make a full orbit around the Sun first is why it took 5 years in total, not because "Juno is heavier" (and therefore "slower"). If it was in fact slower, the flight trajectory would be very different and it wouldn't make it to Jupiter at all. The Voyagers, on the other hand, didn't make any full orbits and went straight for the Jupiter because their mass allowed them to.
There is no such thing as "heavy" in 0G, only mass. The more massive a spacecraft is, the more energy it takes to propel it to a certain initial velocity, that's it. Massive or not, when using the same flight profile, the speed and total time to get somewhere in space is the same.
P.S. The ISS is a gazillion times heavier than the Space Shuttle but they managed to dock somehow, flying at the same speed through space. Earth or Sun didn't magically pull the ISS in 0G harder than the Space Shuttle, you know.
Why is it so hard? Spoiler alert. It's very, very, very, very far away.
Would such an endeavor be complicated? Yes. It would include a lot of baby steps.
Will it take a lot of time and a lot of funding, just to get humans off terra firma? Yes.
Will it be dangerous Definitely.
Would it be worth it? Immensely.
It would be the greatest scientific endeavor ever undertaken.
The knowledge acquired from such a round trip voyage, would not just be life-changing, it would be world-changing.
It would be every child sci-fi fan's life dream.
True, true and true. Unfortunately it will never happen.
@@user-ln1ec9qr5y
At the turn of the 20th century they said we'd never get to the moon. We had not even conquered flight yet.
69 years later however...
@@sussekind9717 obviously you didn't do the math. There's lots of things humans imagined that will never happen. You are creating a fallacy with your confirmation bias
@@user-ln1ec9qr5y
I wasn't claiming anything, I was merely suggesting a possibility.
Don't get all worked up.
Because they have seen what we have done to our Earth,why would you invite your neighbour over if you knew the damage he was capable of.
Oh, come on! It's not hard at all!! Just buy a ticket from British Airways or Lufthansa!
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If we took all of the money and resources that we've used for waging war on each other, we'd already have space bases on every planet....
Great point!
Not likely. Probably the moon for sure. Do the math.
Because it's dead far away
Fund NASA as much as the Army is funded and we’ll be able to get Europe in the next two generations
😂😂😂 NASA already taking billions for things they are not doing but doing on paper
We already made it to Europe. 😁
For solar Exploration we need a space drive like the Epstein Drive from The Expanse. 1g constant acceleration would be the solution for the waste distance and would also solve the negative issues of long term travel under zero g.
They named something after Jeff Epstein? That's awesome! Jeff was a real solid dude.
@@jennyanydots2389 nope Solomon Epstein was the inventor of the epstein drive in the books and the series. He was killed during the first successful test flight of the epstein drive because of too much g. There are more famous persons with the name Epstein in mankind's history. Jeffrey should be forgotten from history.
Unfortunately that's just a dream.
@@jennyanydots2389 the in-universe inventor was Solomon Epstein. he died on the first successful test flight of the drive.
what a dumb question, why we havent been in the europe yet?? brother we just landed on the moon with insane luck and you want to travel literally to the edges of our solar system
Relax man. It's hypocthetical. This is just a content farm. This your first day on youtube? Most channels are just content farms to run ads on. The content is irrelevant, your attention is the product.
@@jennyanydots2389 obv, but it doesnt mean the content inside must be full of shit
@@novy1198 It doesn't matter is the point. You are just grieving to grieve, wasting emo energy. Playing to the algothrim. If something is trash, don't comment on it at all or you will keep seeing it. No one cares what's inside your comment, just that you comment.
We've been to Europe, it's easy. Now Europa, that's another question.
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These videos have gotten repetitive. Yes I get it. It’s hard to get out to the outer solar system.
It' s series we are covering all of them : )
Ohh Geeze that’s a whole lot to cover. Maybe a name change?
The MASS of a space probe has NOTHING to do with the speed it’s capable of. It has to do with Delta-V. Delta-V is a measurement of force applied to a vehicle over time. The more mass it has, the more force that needs to be applied. It’s as simple as that. What’s wrong with this channel? So many damned mistakes. So many errors. So many incorrect stats in this video.
So mass has SOMETHING to do with the amount of delta V a space probe will have
This video was unnecassary long.
LOL, Nasa cannot land anything on the moon, don't ask silly question. Nasa has no technology.
I wonder how does the water on Europa taste like
Alpha particles maybe?