How to Attach a Geodesic Dome Covering for a Greenhouse

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  • www.ziptiedomes.com - Using Zip Ties and our patented Zip Tie Domes hub design, a geodesic dome greenhouse cover can easily be attached to both the inside and the outside of a Geodesic Dome, which provides "dead air space" for excellent insulation.
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  • @mfgc2610
    @mfgc2610 Před 4 lety

    A flush cut wire cutter will cut zip strap flush to zip lock leaving a non-scratching, gougling or cutting nice clean edge. They are smaller to get inside. Sort of a set of diagonal cutter that doesn't leave sharp edges above the lock. Love the zip tie dome idea... Wonderful!

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety

      That is a great idea! Thanks for your comments.

  • @fares_of_arabia
    @fares_of_arabia Před 6 lety

    excellent stuff thank you

  • @lapinfurax615
    @lapinfurax615 Před 3 lety

    Excellent !!!!

  • @Sekir80
    @Sekir80 Před rokem

    Well, at 6:05 I started to feel I'm raving! :D

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před rokem +1

      Scots Were Here!

    • @Sekir80
      @Sekir80 Před rokem

      @@ZipTieDomes The tune just reminded me of Scooter's song I'm raving. It was a nice throwback.

  • @RetriggerXXX
    @RetriggerXXX Před 8 lety

    Good idea! TNX!

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 8 lety

      +Султанов Равиль Thanks! John Hurt

  • @nisw1918
    @nisw1918 Před 9 lety +5

    What a great idea what if you filled the hubs with expanding foam for even more strength and added rigidity of the joints . thanks again

    • @nisw1918
      @nisw1918 Před 9 lety +2

      It would also protect the zip ties from UV damage if any .

    • @nisw1918
      @nisw1918 Před 9 lety

      nisw1918 This great idea would also work with Bamboo .

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 9 lety +6

      nisw1918, That is a good idea. We see a lot of people who take this dome design to the next level.

  • @iam4iamWe
    @iam4iamWe Před 2 lety

    Brilliant

  • @sjr7822
    @sjr7822 Před 6 lety

    I was wondering- but, now I see, unique~I'm looking for simple reusable structure to use as a form for papercrete

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 6 lety +2

      You can cover the dome with a billboard tarp, the shoot the dome with shotcrete or papercrete. Then go inside the dome and cut the zip ties, remove the center rings, and slide the struts out of the hubs to take the dome apart, then build it again to make the next dome. Sorry I did not get back to you sooner. Thanks for your comment. John Hurt

  • @sampowell8472
    @sampowell8472 Před 11 měsíci

    I appreciate your videos and the dome system you have come up with. I would like to add for your consideration the use of hat channel furring for attaching the covering inside and out. I have a lot of experience building containment walls with 6mil poly, hat channels, and tek screws. I suggest attaching the hat channels to the pvc pipe inside and out. Apply double sided tape to the hat channels. Stretch the poly across one triangle. Fasten hat channels over the poly to the ones under. The poly will then be stretched very tight and add strength. Then do the same to the other triangles. You will end up with about three layers of hat channels on each side on each strut. Now you realize you could have used smaller pvc pipe., just enough to stand up the shape in the beginning. I would extend each section of poly across the hubs working from the bottom up. Regards, Sam. (This would comply with Bucky's concept of additive structure assembly/manufacturing.)

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 11 měsíci +1

      That is great, Sam. Thank you for the information. John Hurt

    • @sampowell8472
      @sampowell8472 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ZipTieDomes A water tight skin is the hardest part of dome building. 6 mil poly tightly captured on all edges and tight is extremely strong in the wind.

    • @JohnGuest45
      @JohnGuest45 Před 4 měsíci +1

      There are much easier way to accomplish this. You`ll need to buy 6x more hat channel to attach the cover than the pvc tube needed to build the dome.

    • @sampowell8472
      @sampowell8472 Před 4 měsíci

      Not exactly 6x. But after doing this, you might realize you don't need the PVC tubing.
      But why not just split some next size tubing and use it to hold down the poly and tighten it.

    • @JohnGuest45
      @JohnGuest45 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sampowell8472
      Install some wiggle wire channels running from the top of the dome to the base ring and cut gores out of poly. Add a cupola to create a top vent and cover the top end of the wiggle wire channels

  • @anasqai
    @anasqai Před 3 lety

    Nice if like Telescope from inside to Look out. Maybe even does Igloo still exist? The alternative and new way definitely this will be liked alot.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      Yes, we have some people that use the domes as a cover for their telescopes. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @tonis2u
    @tonis2u Před 3 lety

    Is it possible to have air blown in between the two layers as is the case with some high tunnel/hoop houses?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      Yes, with the Dual Covering hubs, you could blow air between the layers, but the strut are between the layers of greenhouse film, and that keeps a good amount of insulated "dead air" space. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @josephdupont
    @josephdupont Před 6 lety +2

    you can us a clothing iron and aluminum foil to seal the inner and outer films together if you want. or to repair.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 6 lety

      Thank you for your comment, I appreciate the information. Yes, and you can also use a special tape made for greenhouse film to repair or to connect two greenhouse films together. They sell this tape at Grower's Supply, which is a division of FarmTek at this link:
      www.growerssupply.com/farm/supplies/prod1;gs_greenhouse_films;pg105434.html
      Thanks,
      John Hurt

    • @josephdupont
      @josephdupont Před 6 lety

      the beauty of the heat sealing is that you can build up as much thickness as you need as fastening points.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 6 lety

      Thanks!

  • @AlvaroMerle
    @AlvaroMerle Před rokem

    BUT THE MATERIAL IS NOT FLAT RIGTH? U HAVE TO MEASURE IT TO THE SHAPED FORM ?

  • @justinrussell7605
    @justinrussell7605 Před 5 lety

    So what keeps them planted to the ground during highwinds?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety +2

      We put rebar stakes through the holes in the hubs that face the ground. The stakes are about 2' long and driven into the ground at a 45 degree angle. This holds the dome to the ground. Thank you for your comment. John Hurt

  • @herro530
    @herro530 Před 4 lety

    do the standard hubs have a lip for 1 layer of greenhouse?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety

      No, just the Dual Covering Hubs.
      www.ziptiedomes.com/geodesic-dome-hub-kits/about-geodesic-dome-hubs.htm

  • @charleneboyd6071
    @charleneboyd6071 Před 5 lety

    If you attach the inside cover first, when you do the outside how are you reaching the hubs on the very top? Are you skipping these?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety

      The outside covering is pulled tightly over the top of the dome and does not start to have pleats in the covering until we get down the side of the dome. We take up the excess material in the pleats by wrapping the pleats over the hubs and zip tying the pleats/covering to the hubs. So we don't have to worry about attaching the outside covering at the top of the dome, as it is pulled tightly there. I have seen some customers attach both inside and outside coverings to every hub, it takes a little more time, but if you are in a high wind area, it would be worth it. That is a very good question, thanks! John Hurt

  • @kennyyang2566
    @kennyyang2566 Před 5 lety

    I was wondering better geo disc covering has been discover?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety +1

      Greenhouse film is a really good covering for a greenhouse. We are also experimenting with heavy duty coverings to build concrete domes. So it depends on what you are building as to what is the best covering for the dome. Thank you for your comment. John Hurt

  • @sjr7822
    @sjr7822 Před 4 lety +2

    Can this be done with a canvas covering the dome on the outside of the Dome??
    I want a canvas (poor man's fiberglass method) cover for the dome. Canvas is covered with glue and latex paint to rainproof

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, canvas can be added for a covering. You can also cover the dome with fiberglass window netting, then cover it with latex cement for a covering. Search for "Latex Concrete Habitat" on Amazon or CZcams. I have covered my first dome this week using latex cement, and it works! Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

    • @sjr7822
      @sjr7822 Před 4 lety

      @@ZipTieDomes I will search, Thanks for the quick response, how interesting. Did you do a video of the "Latex Concrete" technique

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety +3

      @@sjr7822 I am working on it, I have all of the footage but I have to edit it and make a good script.

    • @sjr7822
      @sjr7822 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ZipTieDomes Thank you, we look forward to the video!

  • @larrybrashear4988
    @larrybrashear4988 Před 2 lety

    I think a combination of plastic sheeting along with a netting base may be just the thing for my peafowl aviary. Will contact for ring purchase. And thanks.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 2 lety

      That is great! Here is our contact page:
      www.ziptiedomes.com/contactus.htm
      You are welcome to call us and we will work with you directly on your project. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @kennyyang2566
    @kennyyang2566 Před 5 lety

    How long will the plastic sheets last under UV rate? Building a house

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety

      Professional greenhouse plastic film will last 4 years or more. Here is a source:
      www.growerssupply.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;gs_greenhouse_films.html
      Thanks,
      John Hurt

  • @annmorgana2848
    @annmorgana2848 Před 4 lety

    has anyone ever tried using shrink wrap (that they use for storing boats) on one of these domes? and if so how did it work out?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, here is a customer review where they used shrink wrap on our domes:
      www.ziptiedomes.com/customers/aaronbates.htm
      Thanks for watching the video.
      John Hurt

    • @annmorgana2848
      @annmorgana2848 Před 4 lety

      Zip Tie Domes thanks so much!

  • @jakechambers5087
    @jakechambers5087 Před 10 lety +5

    how do you get in and out?

    • @polarisworks
      @polarisworks Před 6 lety

      dig a deep trench into the soil ;-)

    • @coachhannah2403
      @coachhannah2403 Před 4 lety

      polarisworks - The beaver lodge method could also work: underwater entrance!

    • @_Gundy_
      @_Gundy_ Před 4 lety +1

      The real question is, are you still wondering how to get in and out?

  • @1Skeptik1
    @1Skeptik1 Před 10 lety +1

    Interesting and creative. ZIP Ties? I attached a licence plate to a utility trailer, after a few months became brittle from sun exposure, almost lost a plate. Good luck.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 10 lety +2

      1Skeptik1, The sun's UV rays can cause problems. We use specially made UV resistant "black" 120 lb Heavy Duty Zip ties, not the cheap zip tie you can buy in a store. All of our parts are guaranteed for 2 years, including the ties. Thanks, John

  • @jimmahbee
    @jimmahbee Před 3 lety

    you could cover it with a thick lining and spray aircrete and have a super strong structure

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety +1

      That is where I am headed. Thank you for your comments. John Hurt

  • @georgemasson6125
    @georgemasson6125 Před 5 lety

    You should buy a pair of electrical side cutters - makes cutting the zip ties far far easier than scissors.

  • @gary24752
    @gary24752 Před 4 lety

    You need to come up with a removable twist on cover plate for each side of the hub to hold the plastic cover.

  • @marcellascotson4272
    @marcellascotson4272 Před 9 lety

    How do I buy one of these?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 8 lety +1

      +Marcella Scotson You can go to our website at www dot ZipTieDomes dot com.
      Sorry for the late reply. John Hurt

  • @Greebstreebling
    @Greebstreebling Před 5 lety

    what grade poly sheet do you use? What is the life expectancy?
    thanks
    Paul

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety +1

      Paul - You can purchase your greenhouse film from FarmTex at this link:
      www.growerssupply.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;gs_greenhouse_films.html
      They have various grades and years the film will last.
      Thanks, John Hurt

  • @user-fn4tf4wp7n
    @user-fn4tf4wp7n Před 3 lety

    Wszystko fajnie ale proponuje obsypać krawędzie ziemią bo jak poderwie wiatr to razem z betonami wyląduje gdzieś wiem bo u mnie z 4 bloczkami fundamentowymi pawilon na stalowych niecienkich nogach odleciał, po tym jak stał ponad 2 lata na miejscu.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      To jest świetny pomysł. Używamy krótkich kawałków prętów zbrojeniowych jako kołków do wbijania w ziemię przez otwory w piastach, które znajdują się na dole kopuły. Dziękuję za obejrzenie filmu. John Hurt

  • @tarakent8876
    @tarakent8876 Před 4 lety

    How does one get inside?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety

      Here is a video on how to make a door for a greenhouse:
      czcams.com/video/MlqK8aSDRKM/video.html
      Thanks for watching. John Hurt

  • @TomsBackyardWorkshop
    @TomsBackyardWorkshop Před 10 lety +7

    Why 3 zip ties? One long one would be cheaper.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 10 lety +2

      POVAdventure,
      That is a great idea. The 3 separate zip ties do cinch down tighter, as you can pull on the 3 separate tabs independently. But one tie would be cheaper. Thanks, John

  • @danilocarno
    @danilocarno Před 5 lety

    ... min 3:06 Señor, en el mercado existen cinchos de 500 - 600 mm de largo.
    Un cordial saludo.
    **************
    ... min 3:06 Sir, in the market there are belts of 500 - 600 mm long.
    A cordial greeting.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 5 lety

      Yes, you can use a single zip tie that is longer instead of 3 short zip ties. Thank you for watching this video.
      Sí, puedes usar una sola brida que sea más larga en lugar de 3 bridas cortas. Gracias por ver este video.

  • @stun9771
    @stun9771 Před 4 lety

    Surely, erecting the covering onto the outside of the dome would be more efficient....tie at the top and bottom, and the structure if the dome supports the covering at all points of contact, placing on the inside means it is more susceptible to wind as it is not fully supported by the dome, and will move more... placing it on the outside also allows the use of double sided tape to secure the cover better along the lengths of plastic tubing...and effectively, you only need one cover, not one inside and one outside...although I guess in particularly cold areas, two layers would be better than one...

    • @JohnGuest45
      @JohnGuest45 Před 4 lety

      Two covers are only beneficial if they both have airtight seals.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 4 lety

      The two layers make a "dead air space" for insulation purposes. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

    • @JohnGuest45
      @JohnGuest45 Před 4 lety

      @@ZipTieDomes
      wind hitting the poly will cause the air within the cavity to move, if it can move its not a dead air space. Dounle skin hoophouses maintain postiive air pressure in the cavity by using a blower and good cover seals (wiggle wire polylock etc). Fwiw, any gap wider than 3/4" will allow for convection currents to be set up inside the cavity, essentially a conveyor that will transport heat from the warmer inner cover to the colder outer where it is lost. This process is driven by temperature differential so a still or dead air space will have no effect. Theres no sense spending twice as much on poly and gaining little to no benefit from it except perhaps from a placebo point of view ;)

  • @genocanabicea5779
    @genocanabicea5779 Před 3 lety

    Attaching the plastic at the center could be held using a pvc cap.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      Yes, that would work just as well. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @IronMan-yg4qw
    @IronMan-yg4qw Před 3 lety

    why not use 2 sheets on the outside?

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      There is better insulation with the dead air space between the two sheets, one on the inside and one on the outside. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

    • @IronMan-yg4qw
      @IronMan-yg4qw Před 3 lety

      @@ZipTieDomes oh right.

  • @internetparavecinos
    @internetparavecinos Před 5 lety

    funny, thanks

  • @rickmartik7205
    @rickmartik7205 Před 6 lety

    why not offer zip ties long enough to go around the hubs using only one zip tie? would sure be easier to attach green house coverings!

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 6 lety

      Rick, Thanks for the idea. The shorter 8" zip ties are interchangeable with the ones needed to build the dome. And with these shorter ties, you have 3 tabs to pull on to help you cinch the ties down behind the hubs. But you are right, one single tie might be easier to use. I will consider changing over to one longer tie for our customers. Thanks again. John Hurt

  • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
    @harleyb.birdwhisperer Před 3 lety

    You don’t have to horse around folding the cover. Just throw it over and have 4 people pull the corners out, all standing about the same distance out.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      It is great to have 4 friends to help.
      Thanks for watching the video.
      John Hurt

  • @JohnGuest45
    @JohnGuest45 Před 8 lety +3

    The only issue with these domes when used as a greenhouse is the covering method. You`ve got way too much spare material in the inevitable folds and pleats. Nothing destroys poly faster than it flapping in the wind. Having the PVC tubing in contact with greenhouse poly isnt a good idea either, the pvc outgasses chlorine which degrades it rapidy. It will also negate any guarantee you have regarding the lifespan of the poly.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 8 lety +5

      +JohnGuest45 On the outside of the dome, the greenhouse film is stretched tight over the top of the dome, with the spare material taken up where the greenhouse film is attached to the Dual Covering Hubs at the top of the first tier, about 4' off the ground. Any remaining pleats are taken up on the bottom struts of the dome with fabric clips for snug fit. There really is no other solution, as greenhouse film comes in flat sheets, and is not a "fitted cover" or anything like that. So you are going to have pleats with a flat covering applied to a round dome, regardless So the Dual Covering Hubs are the only solution, that I know of, that does take up the additional spare material. The only other solution is Marine Shrink Wrap, but this material is not for greenhouses, as it is designed to last only one year.
      For the greenhouse film on the inside of the dome, there is no wind load, so the pleats are not a problem. The greenhouse film can hang somewhat loosely from each dual covering hub with no problem, as the film will not flap inside the dome.
      PVC does produced chlorine gas, which affects the greenhouse film on any PVC structure. We recommend that you paint the dome with white latex acrylic outdoor paint anywhere the greenhouse film touches the PVC. Also, you can use non-PVC clear packing tape to cover the hubs and struts. But a coat of white paint is much easier, and blends right in with the color of the PVC pipe. We have this and other answers on how to use our domes on our FAQ page. Thank you for your comment. John Hurt

    • @michaelpaulzine6486
      @michaelpaulzine6486 Před 3 lety

      Blowing air into the void will stiffen both sheets.

    • @unicornadrian1358
      @unicornadrian1358 Před rokem

      A heat gun will pull out a lot of the slack.

    • @JohnGuest45
      @JohnGuest45 Před rokem

      @@unicornadrian1358
      A heat gun will melt the plastic or cause it to stretch. Greenhouse poly is not like heatshrink :)

    • @unicornadrian1358
      @unicornadrian1358 Před rokem

      @@JohnGuest45 with careful use of heat most sheet plastics will shrink. If you nuke it then yes it will melt.

  • @ing.juancarlosmelendezmari5986

    comentary, is thath zone acumulate rain, no good

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před rokem

      You would put another layer on the outside of the dome for insulation, and to keep the rain out. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @MrSchpankme
    @MrSchpankme Před 9 lety +1

    Use predetermined length of Bailing Wire; put Twist loop in both ends; secure wire around plastic and hub, and twist to tighten.
    www.glamoswire.com/sites/default/files/Single%20tie%20loop%20no%20background.jpg
    OR
    czcams.com/video/X1BJQorsaCQ/video.html

  • @rockyjjones8989
    @rockyjjones8989 Před 6 lety

    Why not just use sod, dirt or gravel. Would be much better because it would seal it to the ground.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 6 lety

      You could do it that way too. Some people build a kneewall for a foundation for their dome, like this example:
      www.ziptiedomes.com/customers/nathanbyrd.htm
      Thanks for your comment. John

  • @MrGlorybe
    @MrGlorybe Před 5 lety

    Never use rocks or concrete as anchors as a high wind will get them flapping all over the place and take lives. Use sand bags instead.

  • @harleyb.birdwhisperer
    @harleyb.birdwhisperer Před 3 lety

    Buy some longer zip ties.

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox Před 3 lety

    There must be longer zip ties available to avoid all this daisy chaining.

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před 3 lety

      Yes, we could provide longer ties, but you can cinch the zip ties down from 3 different angles using this method. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @laverneepperson-harp1464

    I think this could be the answer for homelessness

    • @ZipTieDomes
      @ZipTieDomes  Před rokem

      It is a good start. Thanks for watching the video. John Hurt

  • @TheRebelmanone
    @TheRebelmanone Před 2 lety

    for as many zip ties you use you need t buy a zip tie gun, it will pull them tight for you and also cut them flush all at the same time. It is a relief on your hands big time, it works effortlessly.